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slik 06-04-2020 05:34 PM

That's way better than I expected either to do given the news

Here's the demo breakdown


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Bad News Gertner 06-04-2020 05:39 PM

Lol they literally made a massive deal about Mike Tyson and did jack shit with it.

Emperor Smeat 06-04-2020 06:11 PM

Seems older viewers were the biggest reason for AEW's decline and not just the over 50 group.

Key demo only dropped by 0.3 points but they suffered a major drop of 0.9 points from those in their mid 20s to mid 50s. Was enough to tank the gains they got from younger viewers.

NXT going down is weird thought since their numbers actually were up or steady for the most case.

slik 06-04-2020 06:54 PM

This is cool -- 4 of the top 6 spots for social media interaction are WWE and AEW


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Evil Vito 06-04-2020 07:15 PM

That’s a real good showing for both considering everything happening in the world.

Emperor Smeat 06-04-2020 07:23 PM

If WWE ever wanted to do a major cross-over, that World of Dance show from NBC would be a perfect fit since Fandango can teach the world what real quality dancing looks like.

Emperor Smeat 06-05-2020 03:50 AM

Tyson or no Tyson, seems AEW stood no chance against the domination of news coverage from the protests. Only reason they managed to squeak out a win was due to NXT bleeding away a ton more viewers throughout the show.

The end of 8PM quarter-hour was particularly brutal for both shows in terms of viewer hits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer Newsletter
In the first quarter, AEW with Kenny Omega & Adam Page vs. Kip Sabian & Jimmy Havoc did 740,000 viewers and 387,000 in 18-49. The were hurt by a weak lead-in while NXT usually benefits from a very strong one. NXT did 790,000 viewers and 259,000 in18-49 for Mia Yim vs. Candice LeRae, the post match brawl, and Yim & Keith Lee vs. LeRae & Johnny Gargano. It was NXT’s high point for overall viewers ...

In the fourth quarter, AEW lost 62,000 viewers and 61,000 in 18-49 for a Jericho/Tyson vignette and the beginning of Jericho vs. Colt Cabana. NXT lost 66,000 viewers and 21,000 in 18-49 for the Tyler Breeze & Fandango vs. Roderick Strong & Bobby Fish vs. Oney Lorcan & Danny Burch No. 1 contenders to the tag title match.


slik 06-06-2020 12:17 PM

1.935 million for SD


Most Watched on YT:
Braun flips van - 554k
Womens Tag Titles - 322k
Otis vs Corbin -311k


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slik 06-06-2020 12:24 PM

Here's how the big 4 did for the week:

SD - 1.935 million
RAW - 1.728 million
AEW - 730k
NXT - 715k

Mr. Nerfect 06-06-2020 05:59 PM

Still beating NBC and CBS in that key demo. Pretty shocking for viewership though.

#1-norm-fan 06-06-2020 06:31 PM

What does the “R” before all those other shows mean?

Emperor Smeat 06-06-2020 06:47 PM

Rerun episode of a show and not a new or live episode.

Showbuzz stated in their report that the numbers might be skewed again this week due to some local networks might have pre-empted those shows with news shows.

Volare 06-06-2020 07:46 PM

If you haven't seen it, it's new to you!!

slik 06-09-2020 09:07 PM

RAW - avg 1.737 million


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slik 06-10-2020 05:54 PM

WWE Backstage made a return to the top 150 programs on Cable Tuesday, narrowly defeating a re-run of the 1964 series Gomer Pyle, USMC on Sundance.

The replay of Evolution, like WM31 the week before, did not make the top 150 programs so ratings are not available.

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Emperor Smeat 06-10-2020 06:04 PM

Considering the last time WWE and FOX had an all-women's episode of Backstage it didn't rank so this week's episode is probably a success in their books.

The replay of the all-women Evolution show doing a poor job as a lead-in and not ranking is a different story. Last time FS1 had an all-women's block of WWE shows, it was very hit-or-miss for ratings.

slik 06-10-2020 06:07 PM

Titan Games pulled in 3.833 million viewers this week.

#1-norm-fan 06-11-2020 08:52 AM

I’m just glad Jim Nabors isn’t alive to see this EMBARRASSING ratings loss.

slik 06-11-2020 04:30 PM

Not a great week for either NXT or AEW. I'm surprised, I figured NXT would get a post Takeover bump and AEW should have been back in the 800s since they put on an A+ show this week.


AEW - 677k
NXT - 673k


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Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2020 04:50 PM

Basically a wash. NXT turned things around with that Pit Fight.

Emperor Smeat 06-11-2020 06:00 PM

Not really since just like AEW and the Tyson showdown, all it ended up being was just a cheap ratings pop since both shows have been going down since then. Plus that episode also

The real turn around was NXT finally getting a crowd for their shows to liven things up.

According to the Observer, seems NASCAR was the main reason for both shows drop this week since it ate big into their key demo and young viewership. The numbers would have been even worse had older viewers not gone up for both shows.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2020 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5350733)
Not a great week for either NXT or AEW. I'm surprised, I figured NXT would get a post Takeover bump and AEW should have been back in the 800s since they put on an A+ show this week.


AEW - 677k
NXT - 673k


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A+ for the smarks.

Casual fans don't care and won't care about a product like AEW or NXT. They've already hit their ceiling.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2020 03:11 AM

Yeah, I don't know why people expect AEW to magically hit 1 million viewers again. It's done.

Bad News Gertner 06-12-2020 03:15 PM

It MAY hit 1 million, but it's not getting back to 1.4 million like their debut.

Bad News Gertner 06-12-2020 03:17 PM

In February 2015, TNA Impact drew 691,000 fans on DESTINATION AMERICA!

XL 06-12-2020 03:54 PM

How low would you say the perception of wrestling is at the minute? All time low?

Bad News Gertner 06-12-2020 03:58 PM

I would say so

slik 06-13-2020 12:41 PM

2.016 million for SD

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slik 06-13-2020 12:45 PM

Here's how the big 4 did this week:

SD - 2.016 million
RAW - 1.737 million
AEW - 677k
NXT - 673k

Mr. Nerfect 06-13-2020 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5350889)
It MAY hit 1 million, but it's not getting back to 1.4 million like their debut.

Maybe for a freak occurrence. It's an arbitrary number anyway. I'm just sick of people telling me that they're "building momentum" and it's going to get really popular soon. Wtf? No.

That would be ridiculous even if the product was good, but it is very clearly the most cannibalistic wrestling product of all-time. One of their most pushed acts mocks the genre he's in. It's post-ironic wrestling, and that's only going to appeal to a certain subsection of wrestling fans, of which there are fewer and fewer being serviced.

Emperor Smeat 06-13-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5351017)

Outside of 1 week when it went over 2.1 million, SD pretty much has settled into a 1.9 million to 2.0 million range these past 2 months.

They got the demo win this week but still can't get a win in viewership even with the other networks throwing softballs again with airing repeats of shows.

Mr. Nerfect 06-13-2020 05:04 PM

SmackDown holds up better than AEW in both terms of retaining their viewership and demo.

Emperor Smeat 06-13-2020 05:35 PM

SD being on a stronger network and a weaker day in general in terms of stiff competition helps a lot.

When the show used to be on Fridays during the Taped Era and on a weaker network, their numbers held up similar in terms of being able to retain it better and not suffer from the same spikes both RAW and AEW have been getting.

slik 06-16-2020 04:17 PM

The first episode of the Prichard era of Raw increased by 202,000 live viewers from the previous week.


Avg - 1.939 million
(credit - showbuzzdaily)


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Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2020 04:33 PM

Haha, wow. Look, beginner’s luck is a thing, they were coming off a PPV and there is even morbid curiosity, but Prichard might just be the right guy for that company. 200k viewers is over a quarter of the AEW audience though. Bruce is having a good week.

Emperor Smeat 06-16-2020 05:36 PM

Best number since RAW After Mania even if it still was a sub-2 million number in the end.

Seems that big increase was almost all from the 50+ group since it spiked a lot this week. Took a sizeable hit with younger viewers but that old people gain was huge enough to both absorb it and cause the viewership to rise by a lot.

slik 06-16-2020 07:09 PM

You are correct Smeat, I just saw a John Pollock tweet about the increase being entirely from 50+, the 18-49 demo stayed the same and Meltzer said the teen demo, especially male teens, plummeted to as low as ever.

Emperor Smeat 06-16-2020 07:26 PM

If the reason was due to younger fans preferring more ring action than storytelling, then last night's show was not a good one for them. 1st two hours featured just 12-13 minutes of that.

Even in terms of the big hype generators for last night's show, it pretty much leaned on the older side with the fallout from the "Greatest Wrestling Match Ever", Christian's appearance being leaked, and curiosity of a Prichard-run RAW show. Nothing really that enticing from the younger side of the company.

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2020 08:07 PM

Basic cable is not the best way to reach that audience in 2020. Meltzer, who takes ratings way too literally has not adapted to that. It's possible that cable network executives still take key demos seriously, because it's their business and they want their archaic medium to be as "cool" as possible, but everyone has to know. "Cable" over here has basically switched to an OTT service, at least provided as an on-demand alternative.

Meltzer is just looking for a way to slog off WWE again. Never mind that Raw's "key demo" rating is basically double what AEW gets. Nielsen themselves seem more interested in working out other sorts of demographics, including black viewers, Hispanic viewers and LGBT+ viewers. Cable has moved on from 18-49 as an umbrella demo -- all except for Meltzer and Showbuzz.

Long story short: Meltzer will spin the ratings whichever way he can to make WWE look bad. Viewership going up 200k and allowing advertisers to reach an audience a quarter the size of AEW's entire viewership -- young or old -- is undoubtedly a good thing. It doesn't mean all the WWE's issues disappear forever, but come the fuck on, lol. If you sell a fucking blender to 1% of that Raw audience, it's way more prestigious than selling a fucking Super-Soaker to some 45-year-old virgin watching AEW. You've still sold 19k blenders.

I'd like to hear about which show has the more culturally diverse audience too. You know, instead of the Meltzer spin making it sound like the 18-49 audience AEW gets (much less of than Raw, by the way) is some young and hip crowd, as opposed to being fat white people closer to 50 than 18, who still watch NXT on the WWE Network anyway.

Emperor Smeat 06-16-2020 08:40 PM

Now Showbuzz's numbers suddenly are not good enough for you despite having no problems with them before, especially when it came to gloating or boasting about WWE's numbers over AEW.


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