I’m not talking Sean Waltman’s entire career or legacy as a junior heavyweight. I’m talking about his run as X-Pac. The move back to the WWF was cool and the promo was a “moment,” and yeah the dude had potential, but it’s hard to put him at the top of the most significant players list.

Disco seemed to be featured basically every time I ever watched WCW. He was all over their television. He’s not *as good* as Waltman. But he was in the nWo and all that. TV Champ, Cruiserweight Champ, his feud with Konnan.

It’s not a sleight against X-Pac.

The comparison to R-Truth is apt too.

The Dancing Idiot ls with Alex Wright and later, Tokyo Magnum.

On a slightly less happy note, Mrs. Buck the Merchandise Lady has left AEW. And ol Marty the Nonce is trademarks given all his nicknames, leading people to think he might be the Devil.

I am more along the lines that the "KTB Wrestling" trademark is for a new company, and the Dumb Fucks are about to leave another promotion high and dry.

Lots of people leaving the company. Someone who handles live events is also gone.

What’s this about the trademarks? Lol if The Bucks leave AEW. I can’t remember if I said it here or elsewhere, but I always had the feeling they would take the big money then cut and run.

LOL man... still blown away that Tony picked these lads over Punk. Twitter going to be hilarious if the Bucks leave.

Remember when Dave responded to Punk’s initial Collision promo like Punk scaring away The Bucks and Omega would be the worst thing that could happen to AEW’s business? And when he stated that the reason people don’t like The Bucks is because they haven’t had a WWE run?

They are the shits and very clearly only care about themselves.

No one should take anything Disco Inferno says seriously.

It appears Stephen P. New vs Jericho is gonna be the new fun war over Christmas.

:gasp: ... leave their promotion? Leave their revolution?? They would never do that, because it's theirs, though, right???

Besides, they wouldn't leave without Kenny Omega. That's the reason why they didn't go to WWE when that Bullet Club iron was hot. That's the reason why they didn't go to WWE when their AEW contracts were up. Where they go one, they go all... wait, that's... uh... nevermind.

Saw this! 😄 Jericho going to cost AEW some money I suspect.

They've been exposed. I don't remember the last time they've had a positive impact on ratings.

The only time I can think of that I was remotely interested in seeing them was just after FTR vs The Briscoes only because I wanted to see them get their asses beat by FTR.

Lol at Stephen P. New getting Jericho to take the bait and stooge off AEW. Cornette roasting Jericho was great too. What a fall from grace for Y2J. And AEW in general.

Heard a clip earlier of Dave being the propaganda device for The Bucks. They aren’t happy with AEW. Apparently Dana Buck is leaving AEW because the promotion didn’t stand up for The Bucks enough while they were being “vilified.” :lol:

Haha :lol:

It’s still a case of the backstage drama being waaaaay more interesting than the actual TV show.

So true... if only they could figure out a way to use this backstage drama to make their TV more interesting.

I would laugh my ass off if Stephen P New sues Jericho, that would be pure comedy!

Dave also said that Punk “went after” Dana Massie and the company did nothing to stand up for her. I didn’t remember that. Turns out it was because Punk mocked a ROH Death Before Dishonor t-shirt design. The issue? It got the day AND location wrong for the event.

Reports also state that Dana Massie was getting 7 figures for her job.

Poor Bucks.

I wouldn't care if an employer kicked me in the shins once a day everyday for a 7 figure salary. If she gave that up because she didn't like Tweets, she is out of her mind.

If she earned 7 figures for almost 5 years, combined with what Matt is making, she can sit back and watch her stories all day forever without running out of money. The job was out of her depth and now they get to use Dave to spread the word about how horrible AEW is to throw a Superpity Party for themselves.

They’re carnies. They used that word as their “C word” to try and hurt people a few years ago, but it was a confession as to who they actually are.

I wanted to give this promotion a chance, but it's been five years and Pac still hasn't been a world champion.

Is he even still there?

I think he has a deal where he’s based in the UK so he’s not always there.

Feels like he’s almost never there. Did he even work Wembley?

I tried to find the sexual misconduct thread to put this in there, but it was too much effort. Jericho’s been compared to Harvey Weinstein by Nick Hausman. It’s being alleged that the reason Kylie Rae left the company was because Jericho and/or other parties lured Rae to a room under the pretense there would be other people there. It was just Jericho and Rae. Jericho “made a pass” (whatever that means) and Rae freaked out.

Kylie Rae, for whatever it’s worth, has liked tweets by Hausman and others around the subject showing support. She also responded with a heart emoji to that person who asked for whether it was safe to talk about what Chris Jericho’s done to people (I’m sure some remember that tweet). That one was a while ago.

Brian Last made a tweet asking if Jericho has said he needs time off to deal with diverticulitis yet.

MJF losing clean to Samoa Joe wasn’t surprising if MJF is going to the WWE (which would be my guess). The dirt sheets are saying he’s re-signed, but I don’t believe they’d know. If he is staying in AEW, what a bad finish.

Yeah saw this being a big focus today. Tony Khan getting roasted on Twitter for responding to sexual misconduct press scrum wearing Toni Storm's hat and sunglasses.

This company. Saw a neat meme on Twitter which said "when you fire the wrong cancer" and then photo ot CM Punk yelling and vince with "APOLOGISE"!

Brian Last might just be my new favourite person. Posted the AEW handbook and calling out Jericho's 4am tweets being the reason he is now being accused of sexual harassment. Cannot wait for he and Jim to break this one down :lol:

Also. Tony Khan saying AEW is the safest wrestling company. 5 months ago he was fearing for his life. He needs to stop these press scrums. He is not Dana White.

I’m looking forward to Cornette & Last taking on the main event and what it means/how stupid the devil stuff was. AEW is a drama mine that just keeps on giving.

The media scrums are a joke. No one there is serious. It’s a circle-jerk.

I agree with the Black Scorpion comparisons that I've seen online. I'm now wondering if Adam Cole was the original person intended to be the Devil. Didn't follow the best friend thing Cole and MJF did so unsure if Cole being the Devil lined up or if it's full of plot holes.

The Black Scorpion comparisons are very apt. It’s also got the stench of the Vince McMahon Higher Power reveal. Vince tortured his own family to achieve…what? Adam Cole doing this to MJF when he already had MJF’s trust makes no sense.

And the Cult is going after Kylie, who made no statement confirming anything.

You know, like normal people.

She’s liked some tweets. But you know, maybe don’t attack someone who was made to feel uncomfortable by powerful people in the industry? Tony’s handling of the subject at the media scrum didn’t inspire confidence. But that could be Tony being a moron. Still, AEW fans going after Kylie — not because they think Jericho’s innocent, but because his conduct has hurt the company — is pretty gross.

MJF has been removed from the AEW roster page. I haven’t scoured the internet, but by and large the people I’ve seen seem to think it’s a work. I don’t have that much faith in AEW to have their former World Champion under contract. I can seriously see him showing up on WWE television very soon.

Forums down more than its up now :/

I didn't catch Worlds end, had to work but I was happy enough with the Adam Cole reveal for the most part except the attempt to bait and switch with him at ringside for the match. Unless I lost something in translation reading the results and not watching it that really seemed extra for no reason. Cole appearing and unmasking would have felt less convoluted.

Everything points to MJF taking a break to build up the will he wont he sign dealio setting up for the big return. Perhaps we will get Cole doing a "I ran him out of AEW" bit before a big MJF return once Cole is fully healed. If not this could go cold real quick.

I have always believed MJF signed on for longer when the whole no show stuff went down, I have seen nothing to change my mind.

I dont love Joe as champ... hoping thats a transitional thing.

To paraphrase Jim Cornette: "I'm saying fuckin' sodomize me with a goddamn rusty fishing knife on national television; just one year of that and you assholes would NEVER see my fat ass ever again!"

The big boot on his foot would have been a massive giveaway if they did it that way. Seemed like they were working around what they had to to make it make as much sense as possible.

All things considered, it could have been a lot worse. I personally don't love that it was Adam Cole, but it serves the purpose of solidifying him as a heel, a bigger asshole than the now babyface* MJF, and the furthering of a possible spark of this going somewhere with the "associates" reveals that AEW will prob'ly extinguish in short order.

At least it wasn't Jungle Boy or Orange Cassidy or some shit.

Anything short of Chris coming after her with his schlong out on leaked surveilance would have yielded the same result, unfortunately.

What makes it "funnier" is the same screeching shitheads seeing fit to pile on her are the same ones using that collection of CM Punk photos to prove how he's "unsafe" around women because *they* don't like him.

They picked the losing team and they’re going to stick with that team, dammit.