So.......... if the Lakers/CP3 deal isn't made by Monday, the players union and/or CP3 himself will pursue legal action against the NBA.

Feel so bad for Odom and Gasol. My 2 favorite players on the team aside from KB

Not so much Odom, but Pau im definitely gonna miss.

Honestly wish theyd throw them Bynum instead.

i agree on Bynum, but I have a soft spot for Odom after all he's been thru personally. Seems like such a sweet heart

You're so gay

Little bit

I have absolutely no respect for Chris Paul anymore. If you want to play for the Lakers on purpose, you are automatically a fucking asshole.

lol, ok Narc. Anyway, I'm hoping for some reason that with this restructured trade we can somehow keep Gasol.. DOUBTFUL, but hoping.

Narc, can you at least pretend to appreciate the game? Youre seriously on another level here, and its hard to take someone serious as a 'fan' of the sport if they give no constructive criticism.

I fucking hate the Celtics, but i dont write off everyone on the team, or who goes to them...and i appreciate what they, and their players, bring to the GAME of BASKETBALL.

Cant stand Rondo, but i also feel he is one of the best pure PGs of the game in a long time.

This trade will be done by tomorrow.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...ording-sources

You were right. :lol:

Dwight Howard is the guy the Lakers should've gone after in the first place.

trade LO to...another title contender in our same conference? Makes sense. Not really.

Khloe & Lamar Take Dallas?

My only assumption here is that theyre (obviously) gonna make a run at D12, and potentially sign Chauncy Billups. At least this is what im hoping.

<font color=goldenrod>I'm slightly irked that the Knicks used their amnesty right away on a guy who only had one year on his deal...but I guess trading him would have been rather difficult at $14.2 million.

I see Billups going to either the Heat or the Lakers, hopefully the latter because I'd hate to see him draining 3's against the Knicks.</font>

Apparently LO asked to be traded after the Paul trade fell apart.

Cant say i blame him. As someone said earlier though, they shouldnt take things so hard...its a business, its their job, and they get paid damn well. I think any one of us here would have no problem relocating for 8 million a year...hell, even 1 million a year.

So anyway, im hoping our starting my wet dreams now of:
PG Billups
SG Bryant
SF Artest (refuse to call him World Peace)
PF Gasol
C Howard


though something tells me if we land Howard, we'll probably have to part with both Bynum and Gasol.

I don't think Orlando would take Gasol. Probably would take Bynum, LA's 1st round pick, Dallas' 1st round pick, and the trade exception they acquired to get Howard.

They were also rumored to want some lottery range picks along with the regular draft picks although that would require a multi-team deal which could explain what they would do with Gasol if the Lakers make the deal.

Fuck this shit. Just start the season. I'm not even that excited anymore.

hope Chauncey goes to the Heat

This whole sequence of events was incredible.

Lamar to Dallas for a trade exception and a draft pick. Fuck that. Unless we're setting up a massive trade, I don't know what the fuck is going on.

Clippers very close to getting Chris Paul with the biggest holdup being the NBA wants either Bledsoe or a few more draft picks from the Clippers tossed in the deal.

The NBA also don't really want to trade Paul until a new owner is found but if they can get the team a lot younger and stocked with draft picks, it helps their future value a lot. Biggest problem with the Lakers deal was how it would have given them at least 2 good players for now but nothing set for the future and Paul was seen more valuable than an Odom and Gasol pairing.

Orlando is asking any deal from the Lakers has to include Bynum, and Gasol or a lot of draft picks from the Lakers to go along what the other teams would give in a multi-team deal.

Yeah, sucks they had to get rid of Chauncey but I don't really mind them using the amnesty. You could only use it on players signed before this new CBA happened so their only other options would have been using it on Carmelo or Amare down the line. I could have seen why it would have made sense to hold on to it in case Amare's knees don't hold up but thats really the only situation.

lol CP3/Clippers deal is apparently dead now

And if he clears waivers I think he's definitely going to the Heat. He's gonna play like an animal against the Knicks.

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Impossible NOT to think of this video when thinking about David Stern's performance these past 4 days: http://youtu.be/QFKRUGfJm78

The league wanted

Eric Gordon
Eric Bledsoe
Al-Farouq Aminu
Chris Kaman

and

Minnesota's unprotected 1st round pick

for CP3. Christ.

lololol?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...nt_buzz_121211

JJ Barea signs a 4 year $14 Million contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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lol poor guy

Poor guy? Fuck him.

He has one good season, where he contributes, and then a very good postseason, and all of a sudden he thinks the Mavs have to give him a multi-year contract worth Millions and Millions of dollars. Apparently the Mavs offered him a 1 year deal worth like $4, and he was "offended". What he SHOULD'VE done is take that contract, prove that he's for real, not just a "one year wonder", and then after the season, when he's in better position to actually demand something, cash in. Now he goes from a World Champion team, to last place.

These Puerto Rican players are so fucking stupid. They think they deserve it all just because they made it to the NBA. Carlos Arroyo is the same way.

Pretty sure that any NBA player would have done the same thing, regardless of ethnicity.

Pacers are sending McRoberts and Rush for O.J Mayo.

I thought the Pacers were already contenders when they added David West. Now if Mayo reaches his potential in Indy and they got George Hill???


I think the Pacers can take the Eastern Conference.

LOL, come on with this. They will be much improved, but still a 4-5 seed.

Who the fuck are Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer and why should I care?

well they fill in nicely for the half of the team that is still in China/Europe I guess

I suppose we could also fill in for them if they just need bodies.

WOO JOSH MCROBERTS, CHAMPIONSHIP

Jazz signed according to RP, the best point guard in the league 3 years ago : Jamaal Tinsley

fuckin sweet

Josh McRoberts signs with the Lakers. RP's gonna be pissed

NBA trades Paul to Clippers
Yahoo! Sports Staff

By Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports Staff 31 minutes ago

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The NBA has reached an agreement to trade New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Hornets will receive guard Eric Gordon, center Chris Kaman, forward Al-Farouq Aminu and the Minnesota Timberwolves’ unprotected first-round pick.

LOL YESSSS. This is incredible.

hahaha fuck you Lakers!

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:(

Clippers will finish with a better record than the Lakers

I'm no SammyG, but I can almost guarantee that doesn't happen.

Billy Crystal is off somewhere flipping his shit.

lol Clippers. Oh well. Lakers run was fun while it lasted.

Kobe's gonna have to rape a bitch hard tonight!

So that's it? You're off the bandwagon?

Had no idea Vince Carter was a Maverick :wtf:

This Dallas team, IDK...they may be better than last season's version.

is anyone under 39 in that pic?

They all are. The oldest one is Vince Carter (34)

Jason Kidd is 38

lol you fat Mexican. Of course not. It's not a bandwagon I'm on either, I've been a Lakers fan my whole life and will continue to do so. Just disappointed we couldn't get CP3. With this current roster, and its age, I don't know if LA can seriously make a run at a championship. Let's hope so.

Caron butler went to LAC too? Not bad, I thought they were spreading themselves thin with the trade, but that works.

They now have CP3, Mo Williams, and Chauncey Billups. Trade for a Swingman me thinks?

Send williams or billups to detroit and save Ben Gordon. That would be a sick ass move.

I think they will have a good record, and could win a round or two in the playoffs, maybe even make the title series and win. But it wont be a given like it has been. I still think they are the class of the west.

Rip Hamilton is a Bull...

Not sure I love this. I think the Bulls are on the fringe of being the 2nd best team in the East.

Let's get something straight. Every Lakers fan that doesn't live in Los Angeles is a bandwagon fan. Now let's shut up about them now that they are about to fade into obscurity. Also, any Clippers fans that start to surface on this board should be banned. Nobody was a Clippers fan ever.

I have always loved the Clippers.

Every Laker fan not living in LA is a former Jordan era Bulls fan. So yes, they are.

Sweet Logic. You can only like teams that you live near. Totally legit.

Agree on the Clippers part. Its only a matter of time until those muties show up.

That is seriously retarded logic. My dad lived in LA before I was born, taught me to be a Lakers fan when I was growing up in Greece. How the hell am I a bandwagoner.

No, no. I never said that Hanso. You're allowed to like teams that you don't live near. Just not the Lakers.

Ladies and Gentleman, the 2001-2003 Dream Team

Blazers sign Jamal Crawford!!! Who needs B Roy???

Huge scare concerning Jeff Green on the Celtics with medical tests showing a "red flag" and a new round of tests required. It also appears to be something major and not a simple fracture or otter medical issue that gets revealed quickly (nor any drug violations either).

Already some people are starting to fear he might have something wrong with his heart being similar to what ended up killing Reggie Lewis after he had a heart attack during a practice in the late 1980s (and 1 year after Len Bias suddenly died).

Won't know how serious it is until Friday at the earliest.

Two of the most ignorant posts in this whole thread

Going to be honest here...

I think the Sixers this year can be a top 5 seed team in the Eastern Conference. Not because I think they are good, but because I think they are better equiped to handle this lockout season then most other teams. They are young, and have all been together for a season plus.

I think it will work out this year for them.

No, what's ridiculous or ignorant is that everybody seems to push the fact that you "have to respect" the Lakers franchise. No, I don't. Not even a little bit. The Lakers getting unfair advantages is not only a large reason of why my favorite basketball team doesn't have a championship, but it's also a large reason why I may not even have a team to cheer for anymore after next year. Fuck the Lakers and their fans. After the year that we were blatantly raped by the referees to get the Kings/Lakers series to a 7 game series ( See 'Greatest Tragedy in Sports' doc on youtube), our fans pretty much gave up. Sacramento didn't have it in them anymore to put faith behind a team that the league didn't want to win a Championship. Not only was it a disgrace to the sport, but the Lakers and most notably Shaq tried to rub a victory in our faces that they didn't earn whatsoever. After the ref scandals comes the Pau trade and from that moment I just knew that's how it was going to be. I have a big problem with how large market teams get preferential treatment in the league, but above all other teams, I will always hate the Lakers with a brutal and burning passion.

Aside from the Lakers organization being abysmal, Lakers fans are only second to Raiders fans in how fucking ridiculous they are. If they win a big game, they riot. If they lose a big game, they riot. If they start to lose by a large margin, they leave. If they are up by a large margin, they leave. The Lakers and their fans are everything I hate about sports all wrapped up in a bow. Also, anytime you bring up how big of a piece of shit the Lakers organization is, their fans spout off about how they had nothing to do with the reffing scandals or the trade scandals and that it's all the leagues fault. But they have absolutely no qualms benefiting from all of the ridiculous shady behavior. If you are a Lakers fan, then you inherit ALL of the history from the team, not just the stuff you want to highlight.

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Yeah, what ever

Next you're gonna tell me 9/11 was an inside job

Tim Donaghy admitted it and it was documented in a report to the Board of Governers in explicit detail. It isn't a theory.

The entire report is here if you'd like to read it.

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/...witzReport.pdf

You can put your hands over your ears and yell "LALALALALA" as much as you'd like, it doesn't make it any less real. You could just watch the game and know something ridiculous was at work and then an actual NBA referee whistle blows on the whole situation and it still isn't enough. Alright.

Tim Donaghy fixed games so he could bet on them and control the point spread.

It sucks I know, but it's not like the Lakers slipped him a twenty to fix the game for them.

Also, LOL @ the league not wanting Sacramento to win a championship. Come on.

Talk about theories

Are you insinuating that if the Kings had been the ones on the winning end, that they would have given back their Western Conference Championship?

What other conclusion could I possibly come to if our biggest competition to get to a championship is the LA Lakers and a championship series was already rigged in their favor? Not really going out on a limb there.

Tim Donaghy wasn't even officiating in that game. This is far beyond just Tim Donaghy.

But he fact remains that they were fixing games to put money in their pockets, not to help out their buddies against the Kings

Didn't the scandal also involve other series and teams stretching for a few years although the Kings-Lakers 2002 series became the worst due to how badly it was officiated and people at the time being convinced it was fixed. I know the Bucks complained a bit about potentially lopsided officiating during either the year Philly or Indy went to the NBA Finals.



ESPN managed to completely break down the Chris Paul deal involving the Clippers and the failed one against the Lakers.
The Lakers deal would have made the Hornets playoff-ready for the next few years but the team's age would be around 30-31 and not enough salary cap flexibility.

The Clippers deal makes the Hornets a lot younger (24 years old) with a better stockpile of draft picks for future needs but potentially would need a couple of years to rebuild back to a quality playoff spot level.

Tim Donaghy claims that certain games were officiated a certain way by request of the NBA. Which makes complete sense in this particular game in question seeing as how a lengthy series brings in more revenue, as does a big market team winning a championship (as opposed to a small market team like the Sacramento Kings).

Yeah, that report singles out a few other games but I'd imagine there were many others that were never really reported on. The Kings/Lakers one took off just because it was so blatantly obvious there was foul play involved.

If the NBA was really "against" small market teams winning a championship, I don't think Spurs would have 4 championships.

Donaghy is far from reliable.

Im no Clippers fan..but Im totally seeking and would rather buy tickets for their games instead of going to a Lakers game this year

Which is exactly why the NBA can get away with denying something pretty clear to see. Donaghy or not, I think it's fairly common knowledge by now that the NBA has been corrupt in certain aspects of their business for years. The Lakers/Kings 2002 Game 6 incident is only a clear indication of an ongoing problem, not the entire problem.

I think Frankie Muniz is the only real Clippers fan.

Don't forget Billy Crystal!

Nah, if the Knicks moved to LA he would jump in a heartbeat.