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Aguakate 07-26-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3588644)
WTF Aquakate?! My roommate saw that and now she was all like 'wtf are you looking at?'. :mad:

LOL it SAID NSFW, dude...

Vastardikai 07-26-2011 07:09 PM

Addendum to the above post: I Pre-Ordered the "Best in the World" shirt.

Ermaximus 07-26-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 3588659)
Addendum to the above post: I Pre-Ordered the "Best in the World" shirt.

As did I.

Shadrick 07-26-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3588652)
LOL it SAID NSFW, dude...

Its courtesy to further label NSFW things, because it could have been Kelly Kellys titties bouncing around.

It's just decency. "Not safe for work, and not safe if you don't wanna see male genitalia."

loopydate 07-26-2011 07:33 PM

To be fair, he was quoting somebody saying "What a dick," which he highlighted in red.

Rammsteinmad 07-26-2011 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3588652)
LOL it SAID NSFW, dude...

I'm not at work. Assumed it'd be ok.

Rammsteinmad 07-26-2011 07:45 PM

Also, what's up with Cena's nipples?

Aguakate 07-26-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3588673)
I'm not at work. Assumed it'd be ok.

LOL

Lock Jaw 07-26-2011 08:21 PM

We need a "Not Safe For Work Or Home" tag.

Shadrick 07-26-2011 08:25 PM

Thats not fair loopy.

Shadrick 07-26-2011 08:26 PM

We need a "NSFW MG" tag for Notsafeforwork male genitals

Vastardikai 07-26-2011 09:20 PM

http://iwantwrestling.com/2011/07/26.../#comment-1928

Dunno if this was posted or not, but:

Where was Shawn with so many people who had potential but got flushed down the toilet for no obvious reason?

#BROKEN Hasney 07-27-2011 03:17 AM

If you were to run around and defend every single guy with a shred of potential, you'd be burnt out and not be taken seriously when you speak up. As Shawn was the consultant for the ECW shows, he had a reason to say so something in that meeting.

XL 07-27-2011 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 3588648)
I'm thinking that they could realistically turn Cena heel at this point. Reason being that they really didn't have anyone Big enough that could push Merch like Cena did, which was the main reason to keep from turning Cena. They do now.

That's quite an assumption to make given that we have no idea how much stock of each item shopzone carries. I'd wager that they carry minimum 4 times more than most guys. Ryder's shirt was constantly sold out but then I'd guess they didn't make a lot of them.

Rock Bottom 07-27-2011 03:46 AM

My cat.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/884...edudepepsi.jpg

Big CM mark.

Shadrick 07-27-2011 05:26 AM

Wheres his t-shirt? What a phony.

loopydate 07-27-2011 10:59 AM

I-I'm the cat of personality the cat of personality the cat of per-son-al-i-ty...

Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 3588648)
I'm thinking that they could realistically turn Cena heel at this point. Reason being that they really didn't have anyone Big enough that could push Merch like Cena did, which was the main reason to keep from turning Cena. They do now.

I'd agree with this, if they could do Cena vs. Punk at WrestleMania. But they can't, so while I think we're more likely to see a Cena heel turn if Punk stays hot, I don't think it will be until after WrestleMania XXVIII.

Rock Bottom 07-27-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3589033)
I'd agree with this, if they could do Cena vs. Punk at WrestleMania. But they can't, so while I think we're more likely to see a Cena heel turn if Punk stays hot, I don't think it will be until after WrestleMania XXVIII.

I don't think it makes much difference Wrestlemania wise. Cena's going to be the heel in that match no matter what they do. I actually think he's losing that match as well, especially now that there's probably going to be a new top guy.

Aguakate 07-27-2011 12:31 PM

Are they counting CM Punk's reign as legitimate, in terms of counting the days he's been Champion and all that?

Stickman 07-27-2011 01:34 PM

I dont' recall Vince or anybody saying the WWE Championship has been vacated, or that Punk was stripped of the title.

Aguakate 07-27-2011 02:31 PM

...Interesting, so both Punk and Cena are reigning Champions, and their days as Champions are being counted, respectively...

...huh.

RP 07-27-2011 02:52 PM

Monday night raw in indianapolis next week is being advertised on the radio as champion vs champion.

RP 07-27-2011 02:55 PM

Bill Simmons podcast interview with CM Punk on espn.com
 
Its really good. I don't have a link cause I'm on my phone, but its espn.com. Look up bill simmons. Someone link it.

Reveals things about the raw shoot.

SammyG 07-27-2011 02:59 PM

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=6808291

CSL 07-27-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 3589063)
I dont' recall Vince or anybody saying the WWE Championship has been vacated, or that Punk was stripped of the title.

on RAW they mentioned on commentary aka directly from Vince that the belt had been vacated

SammyG 07-27-2011 03:46 PM

Just heard the whole thing. Great listen.

blake639raw 07-27-2011 04:47 PM

CM Punk MITB entrance
 
Rep to anybody who can send me a link to it online. The only video I can find is reversed like a mirror, and is freaking annoying.

Cool King 07-27-2011 04:53 PM

It starts at 6:22.

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xk2lbq"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk2lbq_money-in-the-bank-2011-15_sport" target="_blank">Money in the Bank (2011) #15</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/JohnCena203" target="_blank">JohnCena203</a></i>

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xk2loo"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk2loo_money-in-the-bank-2011-16_sport" target="_blank">Money in the Bank (2011) #16</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/JohnCena203" target="_blank">JohnCena203</a></i>

Innovator 07-27-2011 07:08 PM

Everyone go listen to the BS Report with Punk. Now. I'll wait.

Rock Bottom 07-27-2011 08:05 PM

Belt has Punk's name on it, in case anyone missed that

Mooияakeя™ 07-27-2011 09:07 PM

I don't usually listen to these radio things. I'm listening to the BS one with Punk now. Nice to hear it so far. Seems like a solid guy irl. Honest guy.

Juan 07-27-2011 09:33 PM

The BS Report with The Miz was pretty good too

Juan 07-27-2011 09:49 PM

Credit: F4WOnline.com

According to Dave Meltzer in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there were six different scripts written for this past Monday's RAW.

The main goal for the entire CM Punk storyline was not so much for him to get over, but rather to get over Triple H taking over Vince McMahon's position.

The original plan for CM Punk's return was as follows: Get attacked by HHH, laid out with the pedigree, and then Alberto Del Rio would cash in his Money in the Bank leading to Del Rio vs. John Cena at Summerslam. The idea was that HHH would become a major heel as a result and feud with a babyface Punk. Plans ending up changing, and as Meltzer noted, Punk's elevation wasn't "shut down."

Mooияakeя™ 07-27-2011 09:57 PM

My god that sounds awful. Cena vs Rio due to Punk getting done by HHH. No need. They need to keep Punk going like this. Granted, the title is what started a lot of this with his "leaving with the title", but I think he could easily without the title if HHH screwed him out of it to create that feud. But not yet. Seriously, not yet. Maybe @ Summerslam in a "real champ decider", HHH screws the fuck out of him and Cena could go heel with HHH with a new era ushering in.

Xero 07-27-2011 11:18 PM

Holy shit did WWE dodge a bullet with that one.

I fully expect them to do the Punk/Hunter storyline ala Vince/Austin, and culminate it at Mania, but holy shit not like that.

Aguakate 07-27-2011 11:55 PM

MAN! I keep getting the feeling that WWE is going to fuck this CM Punk thing up! And reading that scenario that was about to happen doesn't help!

Tom Guycott 07-28-2011 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooияakeя™ (Post 3589280)
My god that sounds awful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3589321)
Holy shit did WWE dodge a bullet with that one.
.

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3589337)
MAN! I keep getting the feeling that WWE is going to fuck this CM Punk thing up! And reading that scenario that was about to happen doesn't help!

"Is this your deal, Russo?"

#BROKEN Hasney 07-28-2011 04:34 AM

The second part of Punk in ECW on iwantwrestling is up. It's a damn good read again, for the evolution of Johnny Nitro as well as Punk.

http://iwantwrestling.com/2011/07/27...-edge-or-bust/

Actually loved their feud, even though it dragged on, but the article does show why it did drag on so much.

Shadrick 07-28-2011 05:33 AM

Great listen.

el bobbo 07-28-2011 06:40 AM

I think this CM Punk storyline is playing out absolutely perfectly.

I also think that the peeps on this website are getting really fucking carried away with it.

Just think. We have 3 main event guys now. That is one more than we had a couple of months ago.

Rock Bottom 07-28-2011 09:47 AM

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Rock Bottom 07-28-2011 09:48 AM

From that podcast it sounds like Punk at least has some kind of say in what's going on. That's reassuring.

JimmyMess 07-28-2011 12:07 PM

so.... is Punk a tweener now?

#BROKEN Hasney 07-28-2011 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 3589619)
so.... is Punk a tweener now?

Watch and make your own decision. I don't think there's going to be a hard and fast rule on what he does/doesn't do.

Xero 07-28-2011 12:34 PM

Which means he's a tweener.

Dave Youell 07-28-2011 06:25 PM

Tweener, pfft.

He's over with a demographic who had disposable income that don't rely on their parent to buy Hustle, Loyalty, Respect shirts.

A fucking goldmine is what he is!

Vastardikai 07-28-2011 06:56 PM

Local Hot Topic sells WWE shirts. It is fully stocked with Orton, Cena, Rock, and Miz shirts. They had a fifth shirt, but it's sold out. Care to guess whose shirt it is?

CSL 07-28-2011 07:04 PM

Trent Barretta obv.

Mr. Nerfect 07-29-2011 03:36 AM

Zack Ryder?

Kevin Nash has reportedly said he will go back on the road full-time to "back-up" CM Punk. Imagine an entourage of Punk, Nash, Cabana, Hero & Castagnoli...don't jizz.

New idea: They should just have CM Punk win the 2012 Royal Rumble next year and announce that he's crashing the Cena-Rock party. John Cena vs. The Rock vs. CM Punk for the WWE Title at WrestleMania XXVIII. That would be huge.

Mr. Pierre 07-29-2011 03:55 AM

I'm almost positive Rock vs. Cena will be for the Championship, but I think CM Punk defending against Triple H would be a much better way to go.

Triple H is constantly embarrassed that his WWE Champion is publicly bashing the company on several radio/tv interviews, and it gets to the point where he has to get his own hands dirty to make sure his company can't be represented in such a negative way. I wouldn't have Triple H be full-on heel, I'd actually have him stay exactly the way he is, and I think it would work well.

Stickman 07-29-2011 02:06 PM

A body guard for Punk who is not a jobber? Hmmmm.

BTW, I would LOOOOOVE to see Punk vs Y2J to see who is "The Best in the World."

McLegend 07-29-2011 03:32 PM

Kevin Nash being a body guard for Punk would be terrible.

Keep Nash far away from Punk.

Juan 07-29-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

WWE reportedly offered CM Punk a five-year deal at one point. No word yet if what he ended up signing was for that long.

Regarding Punk and Vince McMahon, it's said that Punk now has Vince's ear when it comes to ideas. It was described as similar to Shawn Michaels years ago when he began moving up in the company and Vince would bounce ideas off Shawn, or Shawn would suggest ideas to Vince.

XL 07-29-2011 03:55 PM

Yeah, I don't see the sense in a Punk/Nash partnership. Just comes off as Nash trying to attach himself to the hottest thing going.

CSL 07-29-2011 04:07 PM

if anything ever came of this dream internet faction that people seem to be talking about on here, a bodyguard/enforcer spot for Nash is pretty much the perfect on-screen role for him

Emperor Smeat 07-29-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3590462)
Quote:

Regarding Punk and Vince McMahon, it's said that Punk now has Vince's ear when it comes to ideas. It was described as similar to Shawn Michaels years ago when he began moving up in the company and Vince would bounce ideas off Shawn, or Shawn would suggest ideas to Vince.

So then its only a matter of time until WWE Ice Cream bars return.


Concerning Punk having a bodyguard, why not just stick with Mason Ryan once he returns from injury since he was hand picked by Punk and was willing to do anything. He might still be "green" but all he needs to do is beat up people and not worry about actual wrestling matches or promos.

Mr. Pierre 07-29-2011 05:11 PM

On paper, I'm definitely against him having a bodyguard. His current gig is that he's the "Best in the World", so why should he need backup or reassurance to win?

#BROKEN Hasney 07-29-2011 05:22 PM

I'd not be against a bodyguard for Punk if say HHH turned on him and had a few wrestlers aligned with him. The only thing the bodyguard would need to do is stop outside interference and not get involved in the actual match.

Mr. Nerfect 07-29-2011 09:26 PM

It'd be interesting to see Nash appear on-air and defend Punk if Triple H took issue with him. I just hope the Kliq stuff wouldn't be used to upstage the real issues.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-30-2011 01:57 PM

Third and final part of Lagana's stories on booking Punk in 2007

http://iwantwrestling.com/2011/07/29...ocalls-cmpunk/

Emperor Smeat 07-30-2011 07:44 PM

Punk still is facing some of the same problems with creative and agents but lucky for him this time Vince changed his mind on Punk and scrapped a bunch of plans that wouldn't have led to the amazing finish at Money in the Bank or the current plans of Punk vs Cena at Summer Slam.

I think a report said there was 6 plans for Summer Slam and none dealt with Punk even though his momentum is red hot and he helped bring a lot of interest in the WWE from the public.

Xero 07-30-2011 07:46 PM

Punk is basically in Vince's ear at this point. I'm fairly certain he's fighting for his angles now more than ever, and that's good, and it's what Vince likes and respects but is something that rarely happens because everyone's scared shitless of him.

Evil Vito 07-31-2011 01:47 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I'm intrigued by the rumors that CM Punk is trying to get Cliff Compton re-hired. Compton denied having any interest in wanting to return on Twitter...but on his Facebook page he's mentioned many a time over the past couple of years that he's been in talks. Also any time somebody says to him that he deserves another chance, he always agrees. Think he even wrestled some FCW shows last year.

Talented guy, been a fan of his ever since the Deuce 'n Domino days. His podcast with Colt was hysterical and only made me like him more. I like him in the ring but if he was primarily a talking character that could definitely work too.</font>

Rock Bottom 08-01-2011 07:28 PM

So, question, realistically.

Should Cena have some fresh wins over Punk, or do we wanna see Punk continuing to beat him clean (mostly)? Do we see CM Punk taking over this top spot?

What do you think the smart move is? Cena heel turn comes to mind, but will that happen?

Mr. Pierre 08-01-2011 07:40 PM

I think Punk is going to lose due to Triple H interference without Cena noticing during the match. It makes progress and continues a feud that has plenty of legs with Cena vs. Punk, and even plants seeds for the start of Punk vs. Triple H for Mania.

What Would Kevin Do? 08-01-2011 07:47 PM

HHH needs to strip CM Punk of the belt. It has to happen if WWE wants to go forward with Cena vs Del Rio, and keep all the momentum going. Having Punk lose the belt to Cena or Alberto slows his momentum. Plus, Punk will obviously get a rematch, so that won't help.

Instead, have HHH strip him of the belt, declaring Cena the one true champ. Also, state that since CM Punk didn't RENEW his contract, but instead let it expire, that CM Punk has lost all seniority, and the perks that go along with it. Essentially, CM Punk has to start over from the bottom again.

That would let CM Punk continue to be awesome, build himself up, get out of the world title picture for a bit, and build towards a feud with HHH. It's a win win.

Rock Bottom 08-01-2011 08:02 PM

Sounds good to me. Plenty of heels for him to eat.

loopydate 08-01-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3593037)
So, question, realistically.

Should Cena have some fresh wins over Punk, or do we wanna see Punk continuing to beat him clean (mostly)? Do we see CM Punk taking over this top spot?

What do you think the smart move is? Cena heel turn comes to mind, but will that happen?

Honestly, if they were ever going to turn him, now's the time. For the first time since the Cena era began, there's someone who's moving more merch, creating more buzz, and getting bigger reactions. They wouldn't make the move while Cena was untouchable as the top guy. But now that there is a legitimate contender for the crown, now's as good a time as they're likely to ever have.

XL 08-02-2011 07:11 AM

Let's be honest, WWE may have two top guys now but Cena's merch sells to the kids and Punk's to the adults. Why would they wanna throw the kiddie dollar away with a heel turn when they can have both?

Sting Fan 08-04-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 3593139)
Honestly, if they were ever going to turn him, now's the time. For the first time since the Cena era began, there's someone who's moving more merch, creating more buzz, and getting bigger reactions. They wouldn't make the move while Cena was untouchable as the top guy. But now that there is a legitimate contender for the crown, now's as good a time as they're likely to ever have.


Watching Cena vs. Rey the other week for the title I had the overwhelming feeling it was Cenas turn moment.

But I havent seen any wrestling in a LONG time now. It just felt like the moment, hot crowd.Would have been awesome I feel if Cena cheat to Beat Rey.

Londoner 08-04-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3593037)
So, question, realistically.

Should Cena have some fresh wins over Punk, or do we wanna see Punk continuing to beat him clean (mostly)? Do we see CM Punk taking over this top spot?

What do you think the smart move is? Cena heel turn comes to mind, but will that happen?

Got a feeling Rock's gonna surprise us all(since no one seems to be thinking he'll be there) and cost Cena the title at Summerslam which sets up something at the survivor series. Would love to see this happen.

XCaliber 08-04-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TL (Post 3595006)
Got a feeling Rock's gonna surprise us all(since no one seems to be thinking he'll be there) and cost Cena the title at Summerslam which sets up something at the survivor series. Would love to see this happen.

Think it's more likely Cena wins only to be thwarted afterward by Alberto Del Rio cashing in his MITB and once again having to chase the WWE Championship again.

Londoner 08-04-2011 04:31 PM

Don't think ADR will cash in for a while actually, no point in adding him into all this yet.

Xero 08-04-2011 04:38 PM

Del Rio is going to be champion going into the Mexico tapings or will cash in there, I'm pretty sure of that.

Mr. Pierre 08-04-2011 04:40 PM

I'm assuming WWE is going to sell out every show regardless of who's champion since they're never there. It would seem a bit ridiculous to just slap the title on Del Rio just because the company is in Mexico for a week.

Xero 08-04-2011 04:42 PM

I agree, but having a hometown world champion is going to look good. At least I'm sure that's their mindset.

Londoner 08-05-2011 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3595245)
Del Rio is going to be champion going into the Mexico tapings or will cash in there, I'm pretty sure of that.

when is that?

Aguakate 08-05-2011 05:05 AM

October

Londoner 08-05-2011 05:12 AM

That's around the time i was thinking he might cash it in actually.

Rock Bottom 10-29-2011 06:58 PM

Bumpity bump.

SPOILER: show
Punk is gonna fight Mark Henry the day after tomorrow, and if he wins, he gets a shot at Del Rio for SummerSlam. Thinking the only thing that makes sense is a Big Show run-in to piss Henry off enough to fight him again. Or maybe Henry can beat the shit out of Punk and get DQ'd or something. Maybe Del Rio himself will run in. Since it's up to John Laurinaitis, Executive Vice President of Talent Relations and Interim Raw General Manager, whether or not Punk gets a title shit at Survivor Series, anything can happen!

teamXtremist 10-30-2011 07:15 PM

ill admit it i used to like punk his style and inring work is good.He got stale on me but the new punk i can dig, he is great on the mic and has given wwe a much needed kick in the ass

Eklipse 10-30-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3667151)
Bumpity bump.

SPOILER: show
Punk is gonna fight Mark Henry the day after tomorrow, and if he wins, he gets a shot at Del Rio for SummerSlam. Thinking the only thing that makes sense is a Big Show run-in to piss Henry off enough to fight him again. Or maybe Henry can beat the shit out of Punk and get DQ'd or something. Maybe Del Rio himself will run in. Since it's up to John Laurinaitis, Executive Vice President of Talent Relations and Interim Raw General Manager, whether or not Punk gets a title shit at Survivor Series, anything can happen!

SummerSlam was 2 months ago...

Rock Bottom 10-31-2011 12:08 AM

Thank you Eklipse. Just to clarify, I meant the Survivor Series!


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