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Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:43 PM

If Beaver Fucker Axel gets a push tonight and Ryder gets future endeavored I'm going to be very disappointed :(

Emperor Smeat 05-20-2013 09:43 PM

Why would Cena care about Ryder getting beaten up?

Ryder is like the Outlaws were to Triple H when it came to them being beaten up and Triple H not caring in the end.

Evil Vito 05-20-2013 09:45 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Cody Rhodes just made a statement. And that statement was "like anyone else with a pulse I can beat Zack Ryder."</font>

ClockShot 05-20-2013 09:45 PM

Sierra......Hotel......India........Echo.........Lima........Delta..........SHIELD!

KIRA 05-20-2013 09:45 PM

The good news is that when Ryder goes to TNA he'll be introduced like the savior of mankind

and crush his opposition.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:45 PM

Cena doesn't care about anyone, haven't you been listening to Ryback at all? Cena is a terrible friend to have.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-20-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207812)
If Beaver Fucker Axel gets a push tonight and Ryder gets future endeavored I'm going to be very disappointed :(

Joe Hennig looks like a main eventer. Zack Ryder was nothing but a internet gimmick that ran out of steam.

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 09:45 PM

I want Triple H to squash Axel and put him in a trunk with a "Destination: NXT" sticker on it.

ClockShot 05-20-2013 09:46 PM

Shield should have came out last, DAMNIT!

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:46 PM

Rewind a year ago and tell someone that you'd see this happening in WWE one day.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4207820)
Joe Hennig looks like a main eventer. Zack Ryder was nothing but a internet gimmick that ran out of steam.

Hennig is just another generic "big man". If they want to push a big guy push someone with personality like Big E or Ryback. Hennig is a dime a dozen.

Next Big Thing 05-20-2013 09:48 PM

Love Ambrose on the mic.

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4207822)
Shield should have came out last, DAMNIT!

Would have made Kane, Bryan and Kofi standing there watching this promo kinda awkward.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:48 PM

The Shield actually look fucking great like this.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:49 PM

Still can't stand Rollins' neck and Reigns' teeth though...

KyleEmmott 05-20-2013 09:50 PM

I wish they'd at least take there vests when they compete, it's unfair advantage.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:50 PM

I'm so afraid that Hell No is gonna break up soon :(

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207824)
Hennig is just another generic "big man". If they want to push a big guy push someone with personality like Big E or Ryback. Hennig is a dime a dozen.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it in Hennig yet. He can't cut a promo, which would make putting Heyman as his mouthpiece appropriate if he had something else going for him. He's not terribly intimidating or anything. I don't know. Odd choice.

KIRA 05-20-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207829)
Still can't stand Rollins' neck and Reigns' teeth though...


Whats wrong with them?

Next Big Thing 05-20-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207824)
Hennig is just another generic "big man". If they want to push a big guy push someone with personality like Big E or Ryback. Hennig is a dime a dozen.

Both of those guys are getting a pushed though. Big E. Langston is doing fine with Ziggler and AJ plus he's relatively green and still young. Ryback is at the pinnacle feuding with Cena.

For Hennig, it's kind of now or never. He's 33 and hasn't done anything significant.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4207832)
Yeah, I'm not seeing it in Hennig yet. He can't cut a promo, which would make putting Heyman as his mouthpiece appropriate if he had something else going for him. He's not terribly intimidating or anything. I don't know. Odd choice.

When he grabbed the mic tonight and got in HHH's face it just seemed... bad. He doesn't even have "the look" I mean I've seen people's CAWs in WWE 13 that looked like he does.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4207833)
Whats wrong with them?

Rollins' neck is weird... it's like way too thick for his head, and Reigns' teeth are spaced way too far apart.

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 09:54 PM

Ryback could use Heyman to revamp what WWE has done to his character. The mn hs still never won a meaningful match. Let Heyman put in work and pass off the fact that he gave the monster the motivation he needed and let him go on a streak of terror ala Lesnar when he debuted.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4207834)
Both of those guys are getting a pushed though. Big E. Langston is doing fine with Ziggler and AJ plus he's relatively green and still young. Ryback is at the pinnacle feuding with Cena.

For Hennig, it's kind of now or never. He's 33 and hasn't done anything significant.

Should be never then. If he hasn't developed a personality and character by now he's not going to.

KIRA 05-20-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4207834)
Both of those guys are getting a pushed though. Big E. Langston is doing fine with Ziggler and AJ plus he's relatively green and still young. Ryback is at the pinnacle feuding with Cena.

For Hennig, it's kind of now or never. He's 33 and hasn't done anything significant.

How old was Triple H when he finally made it big?

just sayin

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:56 PM

Mid 30's maybe? Seems most guys hit their stride there.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:56 PM

How old is HHH now?

Frank Drebin 05-20-2013 09:56 PM

Remember TPWW Universe, Frank Drebin will be at Shoeless Joe's next to the Allstate Arena prior to the Payback PPV signing TPWW merch.

Corndad 05-20-2013 09:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Not sure why @<a href="https://twitter.com/truekofi">truekofi</a> is dressed like a cow. Then again we're not sure why he used to pretend to be from Jamaica. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RAWTonight">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/336661280985329665">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Frank Drebin 05-20-2013 09:57 PM

Also, Heisenberg and Crazy Edgar will join me live via satellite for the post show.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:58 PM

That is still something that bothers me. Why the hell did Kofi have to be from Jamaica to begin with?

KIRA 05-20-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207842)
How old is HHH now?

Wiki says 43

Wishbone 05-20-2013 09:59 PM

Damn he seems a LOT older than that with those forehead wrinkles :(

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207842)
How old is HHH now?

He's 43. He was doing noteworthy things in his late 20s.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:00 PM

He made it big pretty young then.

KIRA 05-20-2013 10:01 PM

So Kingston looked at that ring gear and told the seamstress "I like that"
hmm okay

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:01 PM

I'm not a good judge of age I suppose. Bet I'd be wrong about the age of half the roster.

Next Big Thing 05-20-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4207840)
How old was Triple H when he finally made it big?

just sayin

I'd say DX was the start and he was 28 then. Had the WWF title by 30. Most guys at least show potential by the time their Hennig's age.

ClockShot 05-20-2013 10:02 PM

Bad timing, production crew.

KIRA 05-20-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207855)
I'm not a good judge of age I suppose. Bet I'd be wrong about the age of half the roster.

I bet R-truth's age makes jaws drop

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:03 PM

Bryan should braid his beard and get a viking gimmick if Hell No breaks up. Just a random thought I just had.

ClockShot 05-20-2013 10:03 PM

Damn, Rollins took that clothesline hard.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4207858)
I bet R-truth's age makes jaws drop

How old is he exactly?:wtf:

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:05 PM

Pretty Hot Crowd

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207861)
How old is he exactly?:wtf:

Google

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207861)
How old is he exactly?:wtf:

41. Seems about right. He's been around for a while.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:06 PM

I am so tired of them telling me to download that stupid fucking app. Whoever invented the smart phone needs to go die in a fucking hole.

Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4207858)
I bet R-truth's age makes jaws drop

41

KIRA 05-20-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207861)
How old is he exactly?:wtf:

Born 1972

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4207864)
41. Seems about right. He's been around for a while.

Damn he looks younger than that. Or maybe it's just me. Meh.

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:07 PM

Makes me wonder where Axel would be with a proper name from the start. I truly think it plays a part in fan perception.

Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>See The Shield on The App. Or, if you don't like rest holds and stalling, just wait until we're back from commercial. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RAWTonight">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/336663998986604544">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 4207869)
Makes me wonder where Axel would be with a proper name from the start. I truly think it plays a part in fan perception.

Dolph Ziggler seems to have turned out fine.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 4207869)
Makes me wonder where Axel would be with a proper name from the start. I truly think it plays a part in fan perception.

It really is. Look at how long it took people to warm up to Ziggler.

KIRA 05-20-2013 10:08 PM

For I while I'd swear he was in at least very early 30s

KIRA 05-20-2013 10:10 PM

for some reason DB seems like the work horse of Team Hell NO

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 4207869)
Makes me wonder where Axel would be with a proper name from the start. I truly think it plays a part in fan perception.

It does. There aren't many names that are great right off the bat though. More often than not, guys kinda grow into their silly/boring names. (See: The Undertaker, John Cena)

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal Moose (Post 4207872)
Dolph Ziggler seems to have turned out fine.

Yeah, and it took him 5 years.

It also helps that he is the best in ring performer since Shawn Michaels.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4207876)
It does. There aren't many names that are great right off the bat though. More often than not, guys kinda grow into their silly/boring names. (See: The Undertaker, John Cena)

The Rock comes to mind as well. I mean really it just seems stupid if you don't think about the name he made for himself with it.

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4207876)
It does. There aren't many names that are great right off the bat though. More often than not, guys kinda grow into their silly/boring names. (See: The Undertaker, John Cena)

Anything brand new takes a bit to get used to, but Michael McGillicutty just sounded fucking retarded. And he really had no gimmick since they treated him as a 3rd generation star without mentioning it or using t he name.

Generic Guy with Shit name and no gimmick...And no direction. No wonder he hasnt done anything since NXT.

Crazy to think he has been floating for like 4 years.

Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 4207877)
Yeah, and it took him 5 years.

It also helps that he is the best in ring performer since Shawn Michaels.

True.

KIRA 05-20-2013 10:14 PM

Love that Ambrose issuing a breaking speech to Bryan the entire time!

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:15 PM

Kane may very well be the best he's ever been right now. I don't think I've ever enjoyed his matches as much as I have in recent months.

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:15 PM

Great match, really getting the crowd FIRED up. I love when Raw lets this go down.

Corndad 05-20-2013 10:15 PM

Great Match so far

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:16 PM

Kane and Reigns fall mainly on the planes!

GD 05-20-2013 10:16 PM

Wow! What a match.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4207882)
Love that Ambrose issuing a breaking speech to Bryan the entire time!

Ambrose is really the perfect "super villain" type. Think he'd be a neat opponent for some of the top guys at some point.

ClockShot 05-20-2013 10:17 PM

Great match.

slik 05-20-2013 10:18 PM

Why doesn't Dean Ambrose just wear a white shirt under his uniform?

Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:18 PM

Awesome tag match

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:18 PM

Hot crowd. It's amazing what can happen when you give meaning to matches and don't just throw a bunch of shit together to fill time where it doesn't matter who wins.

Lock Jaw 05-20-2013 10:18 PM

Great lengthy match

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:19 PM

Even Paul Heyman can not make me enjoy seeing this segment again...

Emperor Smeat 05-20-2013 10:19 PM

These 6 man tag matches have been great in quality each week

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:19 PM

I feel like this just has to end with Axel getting the crazy upset. It has to. Right?

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4207900)
I feel like this just has to end with Axel getting the crazy upset. It has to. Right?

It does... but it shouldn't...

ClockShot 05-20-2013 10:20 PM

Dr. James Andrews on call?

KyleEmmott 05-20-2013 10:20 PM

I've became a big Trips fan recently.

Corndad 05-20-2013 10:21 PM

Some one's not healthy...

Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4207900)
I feel like this just has to end with Axel getting the crazy upset. It has to. Right?

Something has to go down.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:21 PM

HHH shouldn't compete? Well looks like Mcgillabeaver is gonna win and HHH can say it was because he wasn't 100%...

Hanso Amore 05-20-2013 10:22 PM

I get that Hennig serves as a surrogate for Lesnar to keep his dates unused and they need the fodder.

I just dont see any point to all the fan fare unless he takes a win. If he gets beat tonight it buys them a week. If he wins a few more week

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleEmmott (Post 4207903)
I've became a big Trips fan recently.

Lack of overexposure is a great thing. I'm pretty sure that one day Cena is gonna be a part-timer and he'll get huge face pops every time he comes out.

GD 05-20-2013 10:25 PM

Curtis Axel is going to pull off a Shelton Benjamin on Triple H tonight.

Mr. Nerfect 05-20-2013 10:25 PM

CURTIS AXEL! Ha ha, I fucking love it!

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4207910)
Curtis Axel is going to pull off a Shelton Benjamin on Triple H tonight.

And then go the way of Shelton Benjamin hopefully.

Cool King 05-20-2013 10:26 PM

Fuck yeah, Kaitlyn!

Mr. Nerfect 05-20-2013 10:26 PM

Triple H is reportedly a big fan of the guy and he knows that he doesn't need to win this match. Triple H might beat Axel or something like that, but then Axel will save Heyman from a beat-down and go after the leg and show a bad side.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:26 PM

Who takes a phone?

ClockShot 05-20-2013 10:26 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot about Kaitlyn's secret admirer.

#1-norm-fan 05-20-2013 10:27 PM

lol. "I'll get Khali to do it."

Immortal Moose 05-20-2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4207912)
And then go the way of Shelton Benjamin hopefully.

:(

ClockShot 05-20-2013 10:27 PM

Zeb supposed to be dressed as an I.R.S. guy or something?

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:27 PM

Every time they call Jack a real american I half ass expect to here real american hit and see hogan come out and kick his ass.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:28 PM

Orton.

Cool King 05-20-2013 10:28 PM

Orton!

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KyleEmmott 05-20-2013 10:28 PM

I DID NOT SEE THAT ONE COMING.....said no one.

Corndad 05-20-2013 10:28 PM

How did Khali beat Truth.

Wishbone 05-20-2013 10:28 PM

Yup thought so...


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