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The Rogerer 12-18-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Corporate CockSnogger (Post 4745491)
JJ Abrams buddy Fat Greg Grunberg is of course given a part too. One of my friends who didn't know who he was actually asked me afterwards if he was a fan who won a competition to get a part in the film.

Knew him from Heroes. Distracted me for a good 5 minutes

Disturbed316 12-18-2015 10:33 PM

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I've never watched the Star Wars films, but that trailer is pretty sweet. Makes me want to go watch them.

1-6 were shown back to back last week and so far I've watched the first two from the original trilogy, think they were pretty decent.

Going to binge watch the remaining films so I can go see this new one.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2015 10:50 PM

Asian guy from Lost was in it. He looked terrible though.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2015 10:57 PM

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Well, seeing as they borrowed a tonne from A New Hope (still enjoyed the movie), we will probably get the 'no, there is another' plot point in Episode VIII. Rey has too much force whoop-ass to not be a Skywalker.

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Idea 1: They split up twins like the the prequels. Still don't know if that makes sense since they wouldn't leave a daughter young alone like that. Was goatee guy from the opener who died her caretaker? Seemed like she was along for a long time so probably not.


Idea 2: Is Mara Jade around? Maybe Rey is Luke's daughter. Too obvious but operas are usually a little bit obvious with the story.

-How'd the orange woman find the lightsaber it fell down the shaft in Bespin in Empire.

Fucking Han dying sucks. Some fucking dickhead was talking about it last night at a Burger King. Didn't want to say anything to make him confirm it as a spoiler but fuck that prick. Should just eat at Panera anyways.


SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Disturbed316 (Post 4745919)
1-6 were shown back to back last week and so far I've watched the first two from the original trilogy, think they were pretty decent.

Going to binge watch the remaining films so I can go see this new one.

You need to watch them back to back as in 3-4-5 and then 1-2-3.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 4745825)
Knew him from Heroes. Distracted me for a good 5 minutes

He looked pretty bad too. I guess he must have been related to Porkins.

Lock Jaw 12-19-2015 12:22 AM

One thing that I was just "too excited by other things" to even think about until now:

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Where the F did that "map to Luke Skywalker" come from? Who made it? Why? Was it Luke? Why is he doing this? I WANT ANSWERS NOW!

KIRA 12-19-2015 01:58 AM

Just got back the movie was awesome I have thoughts about a certain antagonist and a certain alignment which didn't hit me till halfway home. but they can wait.

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Corporate CockSnogger 12-19-2015 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4745925)
Asian guy from Lost was in it. He looked terrible though.

He looked like someone in their 40's. Which he is.

Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 10:12 AM

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One thing that I was just "too excited by other things" to even think about until now:

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Where the F did that "map to Luke Skywalker" come from? Who made it? Why? Was it Luke? Why is he doing this? I WANT ANSWERS NOW!

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made me think of City Slickers II, with the map piece in the hat. My only problem with this was: did they not say the map was in "multiple pieces"? How the fuck did Artoo have the whole damn map except that piece? That's not multiple. That's two!

Also had a problem with BB-8. Not in the "easily marketable mascot" way, but in the plot... he was described as "one of a kind", and everyone kept identifying it by the orange. Why not PAINT THE FUCKING DROID?!? Nobody would be searching for a a green or purple BB unit. Nobody thought to disguse the damn thing.

Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 10:17 AM

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I liked Kylo Ren turning out to not be an invincible machine of a villain like Vader was. It separates his character a bit. He's a young, evil little shit who idolises Vader, but while he can be vicious, he's not quite there yet in terms of his ability, fear factor or even his mentality. There's room for his character to grow into a sinister bastard whose confusion at being pulled from both sides of the force makes him quite unstable. I can see him getting some stick for the tantrums he had but I actually really liked that side to his character.

I liked that during one of said tantrums
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two stormtroopers saw him and were like "fuck that noise", and turned back to wherever they came from.

Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 10:35 AM

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Luke Skywalker

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Really really curious to find out what his "deal" is. I got serious "Kingdom Come Superman" vibes from him. Things didn't go the way he wanted, something bad happened, and he went into exile and abandoned everybody.

You would think, though, that "feeling" six planets being blown up (or however many it was), or Han Solo dying, would have been "enough" to "shake him out of it" and bring him back. Superman only needed Kansas to blow up.

So yeah, very curious as to his motivations and actions..... And very frustrated at having to wait two years for any sort of answers.

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I wouldn't worry about Han's impalement from Marilyn Manson and subsequent tumble. He'll be back in the next movie as Solo the White!

Seriously, though. Vibe I got from him in the movie was like the cyclops from Krull, who could see into the future to where and when he dies. Kind got it ever since he was talking about how he didn't believe in the Force, but knows it's real now. Why else would he choose right then to go see his son and draw attention to themselves when they had a clear shot of escaping? Kylo's ability to focus his power is already pretty inconsistent, as he could tell they were on the planet, but not when he was 50 feet away. They could have set the charges and been on their merry. It was like Han was there to die.

As far as Luke's deal, maybe it isn't super sinister or even swervy as everything seems to suggest. Maybe they're going to play the guilt/burdened angle straight, and he exiled himself from everything and everyone because he really feels like the galaxy is better off. I mean, EVERYBODY is looking for the guy. And Leia and Han "went back tomwhat they weregood at" at an emotional rough patch, imagine multiplying that by virtually everyone.

wwe2222 12-19-2015 11:01 AM

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I wouldn't worry about Han's impalement from Marilyn Manson and subsequent tumble. He'll be back in the next movie as Solo the White!

Seriously, though. Vibe I got from him in the movie was like the cyclops from Krull, who could see into the future to where and when he dies. Kind got it ever since he was talking about how he didn't believe in the Force, but knows it's real now. Why else would he choose right then to go see his son and draw attention to themselves when they had a clear shot of escaping? Kylo's ability to focus his power is already pretty inconsistent, as he could tell they were on the planet, but not when he was 50 feet away. They could have set the charges and been on their merry. It was like Han was there to die.

As far as Luke's deal, maybe it isn't super sinister or even swervy as everything seems to suggest. Maybe they're going to play the guilt/burdened angle straight, and he exiled himself from everything and everyone because he really feels like the galaxy is better off. I mean, EVERYBODY is looking for the guy. And Leia and Han "went back tomwhat they weregood at" at an emotional rough patch, imagine multiplying that by virtually everyone.

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Leia specifically tells Han to come back with their son. when he questions how he could reach through to him, she says because your his father.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-19-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4745951)
One thing that I was just "too excited by other things" to even think about until now:

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Where the F did that "map to Luke Skywalker" come from? Who made it? Why? Was it Luke? Why is he doing this? I WANT ANSWERS NOW!

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R2 had it because he scanned the Imperial Network in A New Hope. It's the last Jedi Temple. Don't know why they had a huge piece missing unless Yoda did that before they could scan everything after Order 66.


Corporate CockSnogger 12-19-2015 11:12 AM

Um, the correct answer to all of your questions is "the force did it"

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-19-2015 11:40 AM

Anybody elses showing marred by young-lings that wouldn't shut up?

El Vaquero de Infierno 12-19-2015 11:48 AM

Thankfully no. When I went to see the final Hobbit film there was a stupid child that wouldn't shut up; felt like slapping him and his father.

Sixx 12-19-2015 11:50 AM

i actually grabbed some dude's cellphone when i went to see age of ultron for the second time

i was drunk, he was on the phone, i took it from him said "fuck you", hung up and gave it back. it worked.

KIRA 12-19-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4746024)
Anybody elses showing marred by young-lings that wouldn't shut up?

Nope.

VSG 12-19-2015 04:22 PM

Just came back from the movie, and I loved it as well. I am sad that episode 8 is 1.5 years away now.

Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4746024)
Anybody elses showing marred by young-lings that wouldn't shut up?

Nope. Was at a special, magical place with a super comfortable balcony and popcorn/drink refills. And 3D glasses that didn't muddle with vision (though there wasn't much worthwhile 3d in the film)

Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 05:49 PM

You know, I would be interested even in an animated film of
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the ownership history of the Millennium Falcon; from off the lot, to Han Solo "stealing it back" from a quite a list of theives in this one. I mean, even when it is first broached, Han won it from Lando in a card game, but it's never stated that Lando is the original owner. A timeline of events from the "point of view" of the ship seems like a story in and of itself.
Has little to do with the main story, but seems like it would be fun, not to mention a neat way to begin to help re-expand the universe after the massive "none of this stuff ever happened" retcon.

road doggy dogg 12-19-2015 05:59 PM

Whenever talking about the Falcon, it makes me really really really want to play the TIE Fighter PC game. Has there been another game in the 'series' since X-Wing Alliance?

Savio 12-19-2015 08:14 PM

I thought the movie was ok, seemed too much like 'a new hope'. I didn't dislike it though, it was better than episodes 1-3 for sure.

I hope luke says he left because he was tempted by the darkside, Yoda said (in ep 5) if he left training then he would SURELY go to the darkside and we didn't see much hint of that in ep 6.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-19-2015 08:37 PM

We saw the hint of it in the battle where he went to town on Vader and cut off his hand. He was pissssssed.

Wishbone 12-19-2015 09:11 PM

Luke switching to wearing black in Return of the Jedi and being far more aggressive in his dealings also sorta points to some kind of dark side shift. After all Jedi rarely if ever wear black (the only real exception I can think of in the movies and shows proper is Anakin who turned to the dark side), and Jedi don't just go around making threats and boasting about their power the way Luke did at Jabba's palace.

Savio 12-20-2015 12:40 AM

hmm It's been awhile since I saw episode 6, was my least fav of the original trilogy. I only remember him acting aggressive with vader but I do remember him wearing black throughout the whole movie.

Savio 12-20-2015 12:47 AM

I also think that 'Metal' storm trooper was unnecessary, seems like just another thing to sell more toys.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 12:57 AM

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I also think that 'Metal' storm trooper was unnecessary, seems like just another thing to sell more toys.

Yeah she was pretty much a non-factor in the movie. I was disappointed Lady Brianne of Tarth didn't see battle.

Tom Guycott 12-20-2015 01:28 AM

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I also think that 'Metal' storm trooper was unnecessary, seems like just another thing to sell more toys.

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Yeah she was pretty much a non-factor in the movie. I was disappointed Lady Brianne of Tarth didn't see battle.

Yeah, she may go the way of Boba Fett, but I doubt it. They can't have everyone do something "awesome" all in the first movie. Pretty sure there's a reason why she's their general that we'll see in a later movie. They do have two more of those things to fill.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 01:40 AM

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Great flick...

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Loved Rey, and there is still so much to her and her character and backstory for future episodes.

I am kind of craving backstory for everything now. I want to know how exactly things got as they are. What did Finn go through all of his life? Who is Rey? Why exactly did there NEED to be a resistance? It was clear that there was a New Republic, but why didn't they oppose the First Order openly? What was the situation that there needed to be a "resistance"? I guess we won't really get into the boring politics stuff in this trilogy because OH SHIT THEY JUST BLEW UP CORUSCANT. But still, wouldn't mind knowing the backstory on the boring political stuff.

I almost WANT them to just say F it and recast Han/Luke/Leia and make some movies set between 6 and 7 to explain how we got to where we are. I will also just accept some books/comic books, I guess.

My one thing that "bugged me" about the movie was Chewbacca walking right past Leia after returning from Han dying.... DAMN CHEWIE, that's cold!

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That wasn't Coruscant though. It just was a planet that looked like it. Hosnian Prime.


Fignuts 12-20-2015 02:54 AM

Phasma has been confirmed for episode 8, so hopefully she gets more time to shine.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 03:24 AM

Anybody surprised at how pussy the New Republic looked? Seemed like they wasted 30 years doing jack shit if the First Order could whip their ass. From a Republic to a "Resistance?" Or is it just a group fighting the First Order as an off shoot of the New Republic to make it a fair fight?

Sixx 12-20-2015 09:58 AM

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=129146

Even if you're not familiar with the name, you'll know James Arnold Taylor's voice from his role as Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Clone Wars animated series. He and a number of other voice actors familiar with the Star Wars Universe (including Sam Witwer and Catherine Taber) provided vocals for Star Wars: The Force Awakens, but it turns out that Taylor's line as Obi-Wan was replaced when J.J. Abrams brought in the real deal; Ewan McGregor! That's right, the actor from the Star Wars prequels was the one who says "Rey" during the vision she has after touching Luke's lightsaber

Fignuts 12-20-2015 10:04 AM

The resistance is separate from the republic.Like I said, one of the minor flaws is that they never explain why it's seemingly just the resistance fighting the First Order.

Maybe The Republic just didn't take the First Ordet setiously, the saame way the empire underestimated the rebels in the first movies.

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Anyway, now that the First Order has destroyed the senate, I'm sure we'll see the Republic in subsequent films, though if I had to guess, it will be a situation where they are against the First Order but not on the side of the heroes either. Borsk Feyla situation like the EU.

Lock Jaw 12-20-2015 12:03 PM

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One of the "best" speculation/analogy I read was that the New Republic didn't want open war with the First Order, so Leia goes and forms the Resistance.... but the New Republic gives them weapons and equipment. Much like the USA would give weapons to "resistance" fighters in various countries they didn't want to have open war with but would like it if someone else was in charge of.

So then the First Order, despite their main combative enemies being the Resistance, are sour at the New Republic and blow them up.

Sixx 12-20-2015 01:21 PM

so resistance is talibs!

McLegend 12-20-2015 01:28 PM

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Are we sure it was Coruscant that was destroyed? I mean yeah it looked exactly like it, but why it was never mentioned by name? I think STD might be right

I could see Han Solo's death coming, but I was still shocked and saddened. Kylo Ren interests me . Not being a an unstoppable killing machine probably makes him more interesting.

I think Rey being Luke's daughter is too obvious. I don't know who else could be her parents though. Luke better be one bad motherfucker when he does come back.


Why can't Episode 8 be out right now?

McLegend 12-20-2015 01:33 PM

Loved how "gritty" the movie looked.

Lock Jaw 12-20-2015 02:16 PM

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Are we sure it was Coruscant that was destroyed? I mean yeah it looked exactly like it, but why it was never mentioned by name? I think STD might be right

I could see Han Solo's death coming, but I was still shocked and saddened. Kylo Ren interests me . Not being a an unstoppable killing machine probably makes him more interesting.

I think Rey being Luke's daughter is too obvious. I don't know who else could be her parents though. Luke better be one bad motherfucker when he does come back.


Why can't Episode 8 be out right now?

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Reading about it "online", it was indeed not Coruscant that was destroyed. STD is correct. New Republic and its senate set up on some other worlds.

McLegend 12-20-2015 02:27 PM

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The children that Ray hears crying when she finds the lightsaber are the younglings that Anakin killed in episode 3? If so that's another nice touch.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 04:00 PM

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The children that Ray hears crying when she finds the lightsaber are the younglings that Anakin killed in episode 3? If so that's another nice touch.

Still don't like how they had Anakin do that. Why should we care about a redemption of a child killer? Seems like they went way too far to be dark and did the original films a discredit.

It's like how they changed the voice of Boba Fett to be Jangos in Empire. Stupid plot devices from the prequels should not effect the originals it should be the other way around because they are the classics.

Lock Jaw 12-20-2015 04:06 PM

Yeah, would be much better if he was just a regular mass murderer of adults. Now there's a guy I can get behind.

The Rogerer 12-20-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4746319)
Still don't like how they had Anakin do that. Why should we care about a redemption of a child killer? Seems like they went way too far to be dark and did the original films a discredit.

It's like how they changed the voice of Boba Fett to be Jangos in Empire. Stupid plot devices from the prequels should not effect the originals it should be the other way around because they are the classics.

You were fine with him bombing an entire planet with millions of children then

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 04:44 PM

It was Grand Moff Tarkin's idea and the Emperor put him in charge not Vader. He couldn't disobey.

road doggy dogg 12-20-2015 04:46 PM

What are you on about?

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 05:40 PM

That Vader didn't destroy Alderaan The Grand Moff Tarken did.

road doggy dogg 12-20-2015 05:58 PM

#AlderaanLivesMatter

Wishbone 12-20-2015 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4746193)
hmm It's been awhile since I saw episode 6, was my least fav of the original trilogy. I only remember him acting aggressive with vader but I do remember him wearing black throughout the whole movie.

Yeah, he's not like full on "I'll rip your face off" aggressive. Most of it comes from dialogue and not from actions. He's just overly threatening with his words and tends to act way more cocky than you'd expect from a Jedi. I mean that could just be because at the time Lucas hadn't established all the Jedi rules yet, but he does come across as much more threatening than most Jedi do.

Fignuts 12-20-2015 08:07 PM

I dunno about that. He tries to end the conflict with Jabba nonviolently several times, and tries to reason with Vader too. Theonly time we really see him cut loose is at the end of the fight when Vader says he'll turn Leia.

Fignuts 12-20-2015 08:12 PM

I don't have as much a problem withAnakin killing the younglings as I do about how fast he went from blubbering like a little baby about attacking Mace Windu to slaughtering children.

Wishbone 12-20-2015 08:19 PM

Yeah, I mean he totally does try to end it non-violently, but the way he does so isn't exactly super "Jedi-y". He flat out tells Jabba that he'll either surrender to Luke's demands or end up dead. I think the exact line is "you can either make a profit, or be destroyed". Death threats don't usually go hand and hand with the Jedi.

Wishbone 12-20-2015 08:21 PM

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I don't have as much a problem withAnakin killing the younglings as I do about how fast he went from blubbering like a little baby about attacking Mace Windu to slaughtering children.

Agree 100% with this. Darth Vader being a cold blooded bastard that would kill children seems perfectly in character for him. It's just that Anakin from the prequels doesn't fit that bill. I think that's more of an issue with the prequels as a whole though. They didn't present Anakin the way they should have. He should have shown more violent tendencies from day one. Not killing kids or anything, but maybe show him being more aggressive in combat and like willingly (and joyfully) killing people despite Obi-Wan's protests would have been good.

Fignuts 12-20-2015 08:24 PM

To be fair he isn't a jedi at that point, and even then only had a small amount of training compared to spending his entire life training like the prequel jedi.

So a few death threats are par for the course really.

Wishbone 12-20-2015 09:11 PM

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To be fair he isn't a jedi at that point, and even then only had a small amount of training compared to spending his entire life training like the prequel jedi.

So a few death threats are par for the course really.

Well, yeah, Luke isn't a Jedi at that point, and I'd argue that he never really becomes one in the movies (haven't seen Force Awakens yet so I can't say there). I mean to be a true Jedi you have to follow all of their rules and teachings and Luke never does that. In fact he goes against the Jedi teachings quite a few times. That's why I think it's safe to say that even if Luke didn't/doesn't turn to the dark side he'll still never be a true Jedi. However, that's a good thing in my opinion. Honestly if you think about it the Jedi are more to blame for Darth Vader's rise than Palpatine is. If Anakin hadn't been told by the Jedi that he wasn't allowed to love he wouldn't have had to hide his thing with Padme, and if he hadn't had to hide it he probably would have come to Yoda or Obi-Wan way before he went to Palpatine for help. Really Anakin only went to Palpatine because he felt like he had nowhere else to go for help.

Blonde Moment 12-20-2015 09:30 PM

I am kind of staring to feel like everything that has happened from Episodes 1-7 has been a direct result of Yoda's declining mental and physical health. The Yoda we find in episode 5 is a mere shadow of his former self and I suspect that while Luke might have been "ready" to take care of himself he was in no way ready to be a teacher of anyone.

Is it possible that Luke's vision in 5 wasn't about what could be but more of what will come to pass?

Emperor Smeat 12-20-2015 11:10 PM

Already shattered a few box office records and barely lost out on another quick record.

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Box Office: ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ Shreds Records With $238 Million Debut

“Star Wars: The Force Awakens” micronized box office records this weekend, racking up a monumental $238 million opening and justifying the Walt Disney Company’s $4 billion purchase of LucasFilm.

That 2012 acquisition was intended to launch a cinematic universe set in a galaxy far, far away: a series of interconnected sequels, spin-offs, and prequels that would serve as a filmic parallel to Disney’s Marvel Comics-inspired adventures.

J.J. Abrams’ nostalgic take on the series of space operas George Lucas created four decades ago was a hit with critics and fans, earning strong reviews and an A CinemaScore. Its opening soared past the previous high-water mark of $208.8 million established last summer by “Jurassic World.” It more than doubles “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey’s” December record debut of $84.6 million.

Globally, “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” scored the second biggest opening in history, earning $517 million worldwide, behind only “Jurassic World’s” $525 million bow. Unlike “Jurassic World,” the seventh film in the “Star Wars” saga did not have the benefit of showing in China on its inaugural weekend. It opens there on Jan. 9.
http://variety.com/2015/film/box-off...ds-1201665753/

Tom Guycott 12-21-2015 02:43 AM

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Still don't like how they had Anakin do that. Why should we care about a redemption of a child killer? Seems like they went way too far to be dark and did the original films a discredit.

http://www.schnittberichte.com/www/S...hildkiller.jpg

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 08:59 AM

Damn, $517M without China? That's pretty insane

Reavant 12-21-2015 11:34 AM

I gues i must be an asshole, but i didnt love it.

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 11:55 AM

What about it didn't you like?

McLegend 12-21-2015 02:51 PM

The more I think about it the more annoyed I get that The prequels are as bad as they are.

After seeing Episode 7 I realize how much better they should have been. Episodes I,II, & III are such a waste.

With that said I'm going to watch the Phatom Menace right now. I haven't seen it all the way through in about 10 years.

El Vaquero de Infierno 12-21-2015 04:41 PM

Episode VII definitely wipes away the big shit stain that are the prequels.

I found the script was still clunky at times, though; I don't know if that was a homage to the past films as well. lol

Ruien 12-21-2015 07:39 PM

I don't understand all the hate for the prequels. Sure the 2nd was terrible but it's not like they were awful movies. 3rd movie was hot.

Ermaximus 12-21-2015 07:53 PM

Curious to see if Lando shows up as he was the only supporting character missing. I mean,
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Admiral Ackbar and Nien Nunb were there,
so why not bring back Lando?

Also, does anyone know who
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the old guy at the beginning is supposed to be? They tout him as this old ally, but never once say his name before he is brutally murdered.


Could also be irrelevant, but isn't Ashoka Tano still out there somewhere in the galaxy?

Lock Jaw 12-21-2015 08:05 PM

Ashoka Tano's fate still unknown.... Alive in Star Wars: Rebels, but who knows what happens.....

Other than that... yeah, miss Lando.... hope he shows up in the next episode(s).....

Ermaximus 12-21-2015 08:13 PM

Episode VIII: Lando Seeks Revenge on the Sith

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 08:28 PM

I don't know. I mean... what would having Lando in the movie really add? It would be the equivalent of some over-the-hill wrestler from the 90s making their shitty Rumble appearance for a quick pop. Seems unnecessary.

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 08:29 PM

At least Akbar was like a strategist and shit and planned their attack etc

Lock Jaw 12-21-2015 08:33 PM

Maybe Lando is Finn's dad............. because he's black.

Ruien 12-21-2015 09:16 PM

Who was the old dude in the beginning?

Lock Jaw 12-21-2015 09:22 PM

Forgot about old man at beginning. Can't even picture the scene/him. Too much else.

Fignuts 12-21-2015 09:50 PM

Did Max Von Sydow play anyone in the original trilogy? Even if it was unnamed?

Evil Vito 12-21-2015 10:01 PM

<font color=goldenrod>While I've enjoyed the Star Wars series, I've never been a massive fanboy who knows everything religiously. I've only seen 2 and 3 once and can barely remember anything about them (and judging from general consensus, they were poor).

That said...this movie fucking ruled. Loved pretty much all of it. Occasional spottiness in the script but not enough to ruin anything for me. Was so worth it seeing it in IMAX 3D as well.</font>

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-21-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4747003)
Did Max Von Sydow play anyone in the original trilogy? Even if it was unnamed?

Lord Vigo the Carpathian.

No.

The Rogerer 12-22-2015 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4746778)
I don't understand all the hate for the prequels. Sure the 2nd was terrible but it's not like they were awful movies. 3rd movie was hot.

I watched them last week. They are outright terrible movies. Cinematically dead.

Rammsteinmad 12-22-2015 12:24 PM

I'm probably one of the only people who enjoyed all three of the prequel movies.

Sure, they're nothing compared to the original trilogy, but they're still great films. Even Episode 1.

The CGI certainly hasn't aged well, though, but a lot of the battles, and especially the lightsaber ones, are amazing to watch.

Reavant 12-22-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4746558)
What about it didn't you like?

I left feeling very meh.

The story felt very small. I dont know how else to explain that statement. There wasnt an overall grandness to what was happening to me. I had all the nostalgic feels at first, but they went away as the movie progressed. There seemed to be no consequence at anything that happened, and really big shit did happen, but you didnt feel good or bad about it.

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When the republic planets got blown up, you had no connection to them. For example in the new hope, you knew that alderan was leias home, and vader explained beforehand what the station could do before he did it then blew it up in front of her.

This time, you didnt even really know it was coming, and they did it to an entire system, but you didnt really care because you never even got the name of the planets they blew up. Noone was from there and noone cared.


I liked how they did the villain. He was young and struggling with his powers. Not some killing machine like Vader. The tantrums were actually a nice touch. But he seemed like a complete sociopath.

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It was cool to see that he was Hans kid, but you saw it coming that he was going to kill Han. That whole scene was just duuuhhh. And the moment when he gave the sabre to Han like he was going to turn to the light, it felt like he was a sociopath playing with his food. He knew he was going to kill him and he did it that way to make it worse for Han. It looked like there was no inner struggle.


The main characters were done well and acted well, but I dont feel like I know them.

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yes Fin was a stormtrooper taken and brainwashed as a youth, but he broke that programming pretty fast and pretty easy, and when he said what he was, he had no emotion to it and neither did the audience. It was like "this happened" "ok cool... moving on"

Same with Rey. no parents and mysterious past. got it.

WTF happened to Po? He just shows up in an xwing. I mean he has like a 2 second explaination.


Starkiller base was real cool, but
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it was just there. They gave it almost no explaination and blew up a bunch of planets. It also went down the exact same way almost as the Death star.


The movie was almost the exact cut and paste plot as ep IV.

Reavant 12-22-2015 12:47 PM

Also a lot of things just felt overly convieniently there. l

Reavant 12-22-2015 12:47 PM

It wasnt bad at all, I just wouldnt go see it again.

KIRA 12-22-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 4747325)
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The movie was almost the exact cut and paste plot as ep IV.

I had a similar feeling but mine was positive it felt familiar enough but with just enough to be different.

Fignuts 12-22-2015 02:08 PM

Saw it again.

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Super convinced that Snoke is Darth Plagueis. The music that plays during the Snoke scene is almost the same track from the scene in ep. 3 when palpatine tells Anakin about him. Kylo Ren describes him as wise and Plagueis was known as Plagueis the wise. Could be coincidence or red herrings but it makes sense. You want to introduce a villain that is a bigger threat than the emporer, why not the emporers master?

Lock Jaw 12-22-2015 07:36 PM

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Isn't Darth Plagueis dead? Unless you are saying that Palpatine didn't really kill him.

Fignuts 12-22-2015 08:16 PM

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Either he survived, and tricked palpatine into thinking he was dead (which might explain all the scars), or Plagueis and Sidious were the true master and apprentice the whole time, and Maul, Dooku, and even Vader were just pawns in their greater schemes.

VSG 12-22-2015 08:16 PM

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He probably did not. The now non-canon novels had a good section on how Plagueis was paranoid enough to have clones of him. Then there's the whole knowledge of the life force etc etc

Fignuts 12-22-2015 09:37 PM

I was a little disappointed that there were no really good standout tracks on the ost. Don't get me wrong, it was by no means bad, but if there's one thing the prequels did really great it was the soundtracks. So many good tracks, but in this movie nothing really stood out, besides maybe the song that plays during the final scene, but that's only like 2 minutes.

Lock Jaw 12-22-2015 09:38 PM

Liked this song

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/65As1V0vQDM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But it is a "subtle" song.... not one that you would really go around "humming"....

Fignuts 12-22-2015 09:46 PM

That was another one I was going to mention but even then, they don't hit me like some of the prequel tracks do.

DAT ORDER 66 SON

Lock Jaw 12-22-2015 09:51 PM

Thinking back on it, yeah, the prequels really did have a lot of quality tracks and songs. I guess maybe JJ wanted to just play the whole thing more "down low" or whatever....

Wishbone 12-22-2015 10:22 PM

Just got back from watching the movie. Definitely a great flick. Felt like a Star Wars movie from start to finish.

That said I also really like almost all of the new characters. They all held their own, especially Po. Even BB wasn't as awful (though I still hate his design).

Had the "big twist"/ending ruined for me by an asshole family member on Facebook though. When they said it I assumed they were kidding cause it just seemed so crazy, but as soon as the pieces fell into place I was like "that fucking bitch!" Still enjoyed it all though.

JJ definitely surprised the hell out of me. I didn't expect this to be this good and it certainly was the best Star Wars related thing I've seen/played/whatever in ages.

KIRA 12-23-2015 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4747584)
Just got back from watching the movie. Definitely a great flick. Felt like a Star Wars movie from start to finish.

That said I also really like almost all of the new characters. They all held their own, especially Po. Even BB wasn't as awful (though I still hate his design).

Had the "big twist"/ending ruined for me by an asshole family member on Facebook though. When they said it I assumed they were kidding cause it just seemed so crazy, but as soon as the pieces fell into place I was like "that fucking bitch!" Still enjoyed it all though.

JJ definitely surprised the hell out of me. I didn't expect this to be this good and it certainly was the best Star Wars related thing I've seen/played/whatever in ages.

The Clone Wars is really good if you haven't watched it you should its all on Netflix.

Wishbone 12-23-2015 12:34 AM

Yeah, I enjoyed Clone Wars. Rebels has been even better in my opinion. Love the characters and their interactions in it. Sorta reminds me of Knights of the Old Republic for some reason.

KIRA 12-23-2015 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4747628)
Yeah, I enjoyed Clone Wars. Rebels has been even better in my opinion. Love the characters and their interactions in it. Sorta reminds me of Knights of the Old Republic for some reason.

I've heard good things about Rebels plus my girl Ahsoka is in it I've been wanting to see it but I can't seem to catch it my fingers are crossed for Netflix release.

Wishbone 12-23-2015 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4747640)
I've heard good things about Rebels plus my girl Ahsoka is in it I've been wanting to see it but I can't seem to catch it my fingers are crossed for Netflix release.

If you don't mind the quality being a little "meh" there's a site I watch it on that I'd be happy to rep you with. The episodes are usually 480 to 720 so they're not terrible by any means, and they've got all of them plus pretty much any other cartoon you can think of from the last 10 years or so.

road doggy dogg 12-23-2015 09:45 AM

https://twitter.com/KyloR3n

nice

ct2k 12-23-2015 11:07 AM

FUCKIN A. SHIT WAS UNREAL.

Seriously it was amazing and I want to bang that Ridleytits girl errwhere.

Can't wait for the next ep + the spin off movies etc.

HOLLA (etc)

Zeeboe 12-23-2015 12:33 PM

I was pretty much bored through most of it except when the legends were on screen.

road doggy dogg 12-23-2015 01:25 PM

Shocker, that.

Tom Guycott 12-23-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4747572)
Liked this song

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/65As1V0vQDM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But it is a "subtle" song.... not one that you would really go around "humming"....

Joint gave me that "first area of an RPG after you leave the first town" vibe, even while I was in the theater. Possibly even world map material.

Frank Drebin 12-23-2015 02:25 PM

Reavant makes alot of great points, tbh.

Also, maybe I missed it, but is the Order different from the Empire? Thought they said it was but they use all the same stuff.


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