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But we're not saying HHH is the only reason he's leaving, it's just one thing he's disgruntled with
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Sorry let me explain further. I don't think anyone believes that Punk has any beef with HHH, or hates him or anything like that. From what has been reported, it is one of the many things that is pissing him off. He just doesn't see it as a direction he cares to take his character, and even more grating is Dave Batista is now in a main event with Randy Orton after not being around for a long time... winning the royal rumble after he got his ass kicked for 50 minutes and got chokeslammed through a table. And on top of all of that, D Bry, his good buddy whose one of the hottest guys in the company was in the curtain jerker and not booked in the rumble, when he thought (right or wrong) it was his year.
THEN like you said, there's the concussion stuff, which is confusing everyone even more. The HHH stuff was just a little fodder and I found it particularly amusing. He didn't want to work with HHH, and now HHH is telling Vince not to bring him back because he finds him unprofessional. |
8 pages about a whining man-child.
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hey, that's The Best Whining Man Child In The World to you
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bit of a mouthful
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Just give Corey Graves a shot right now. WWE fans want a tattooed anti hero, they can have one.
Build him up over the next 2-3 years and we'll forget all about Punk. |
Wife doesn't watch wrestling much and her somment on Punk wrestling HHH was "Well that doesn't make any sense, shouldn't that Bryan guy be wrestling him?"
I doubt its even that he is wrestling HHH its that it makes no sense whatsoever that he is in the first place. Daniel Bryan has been feuding with the Authority all year why the hell shouldn't be feuding with HHH? Because HHH figures he's too big to job to him? |
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Graves has the right look for the part. Does he have the proper training on how to hold himself in the spotlight? Fuck no. This is why I didn't say "HOLY FUCK WADS, WWE NEEDS HIM RITE NOW!!!1!!!1!!!11!!!!one1!!!!eleven11!!!!"
Give him time train under pressure. One of three things will happen. He'll either excel and leave me as the only person who is right in the room, or he'll get a solid mid card status for a while until he turns heel and Cena eats him in a supplemental feud while Randy is suspended for his 8th second strike, or he'll kill himself and he's not our problem anymore. |
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CM Punk Chants At NXT + Punk Signs Confiscated By Ryan Clark on Thursday, January 30th, 2014 at 10:53 PM ET – RingsideCollectibles.com has released the image of their upcoming exclusive CM Punk action figure, which is Punk when he was in WWE’s version of ECW. You can check out the pic at the link posted. The figure will be available to pre-order at Ringside Collectibles soon. – Pro wrestling legend, announcer, and trainer Les Thatcher recently recorded a 90-minute guest spot on Wrestler’s Eye Radio talking about the CM Punk situation with Punk walking out of the WWE. – Fans at tonight’s WWE NXT tapings at Full Sail University in Winter Park, Florida were reportedly chanting for CM Punk throughout the show. – Also, CM Punk signs were being confiscated by security at the taping. At one point, fans were asked to chant “NXT” to the opening of a TV episode. Instead, there was a sizable Punk chant from the fans. As you can imagine, this don’t go over well with WWE officials. Triple H, who is said to be extremely upset over the CM Punk situation and feels disrespected, was backstage at the show as he always is. As noted earlier, Vince McMahon is now dealing with the CM Punk issues. |
Who is Corey Graves?
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You know, I actually think this could go either way. If CM Punk shows up for Mania though and it becomes obvious it was all a work, I wonder if Ryan Park will get new sources.
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Corey Graves is obviously Doink The Clown.
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He weighs like 150 pounds
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Meh
This is all just a work to distract from news that vince helped a murderer get away. |
I'm not going to dignify this smark circle jerk and gleeful shit-on-a-living-legend party. You should look up Punk/HHH from NoC 2011. It was an awesome match, and I imagine they would steal the show at WM30.
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Skimmed it. Kevin Nash is in it.
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They needed to put Nash in it to make the match interesting.
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If CM Punk wants to walk out more power to him. Just the same as Vince firing people IMO. If he saved his money and no longer needs to work for the big corporation then he made the right choice. Why be anywhere when you are not happy? So what if it is close to Mania? Punk is not happy and decided he did not want to be part of this anymore. He should not have to go to work for a few more months due to the time of year it is when he hates his job and is an independent contractor.
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Jeff Hardy at least had exciting spots. Lol Graves is a beanpole that's being booked to be a bad ass.
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He's Jeff Hardy, minus the presence, talent, minimal mic work, and charisma.
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CSL, would you like your hat barbecued or are you going to eat it raw?
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I'm still not seeing any confirmation or anything official there peaches. And if or when it is, I'd like it barbecued. Or potentially deep-fried.
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Its not a mars bar csl.
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#trendsetter
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I have been a LONG TIME CM Punk fan. I still remember liking him when i 1st saw him on ECW. But over the past couple of years he has become a hypocrite and a whiner. Tired of hearing him moan about how tough his life is. He chose this life. He chose every part of it. And he is compensated VERY well for it. He craps all over The Rock for not working every show, but praises UT who worked less dates than Rock did last year. In his most recent interview he stated how much he loved having Batista back and it wasnt the same as Rock returning b/c Batista came back for the long haul. Yet now he is ticked that Batista won the Rumble? Also in that last interview he mentioned how he will reserve his judgment on the WWE Network till he gets his royalty check. No one blames him for wanting money. No one blames him for wanting financial security. But you were blasting Rock, b/c in your opinion he came back for the money, yet you make a statement like that?! And its no secret that Rock didnt come back for the money. Simple mathematics. WWE cant pay enough to Rock remotely what he is making on a feature film. Top 5 grossing actor at the box office last year.
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so i guess bound for glory will be bully ray vs punk.
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I started writing a proper reply to that but realised who wrote it and gave up.
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Miz, Truth and Nash stole the thunder.
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at the end of the day, lie down for the guy, 1-2-3. You can do the political move and say "WELL I DIDN'T BEAT HIM CLEAN AND HE'S STILL PROTECTED" or you give the fans the visual of you getting pinned clean in the middle of the ring, 1-2-3. Which do you think is more effective?
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This is WWE's problem constantly. Something Nash even brought up. They get certain guys that have a definitive connection with the fans, and they don't go 100 per cent in with them. They don't use the momentum to the full potential. They half protect them, half hang them out to dry. Are you're in or you're out, fans can tell when a guy isn't the upper echelon. You ever notice that the top shelf guys often times don't even get beat with run-ins?
At the end of the day, you put Punk over 100 per cent clean with HHH, it puts him in the upper echelon, HE'S main eventing instead of Cena and Laurenaitis. But they obviously didn't have the faith in him to do that, so they jobbed him in the most cop out manner of booking possible. |
But but but he kicked out of the pedigree!
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HHH has to dislike Punk. Maybe even hate him.
CM Punk is King of the Indies... No way HHH likes him. |
Reckless Youth is the King of the Indies
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Agent Exile is the king of the indies.
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FTR I don't think HHH is some evil asshole, but it's abundantly clear he's a glory hog... I don't know if I blame him for that, I don't know if anyone in his position WOULDN'T be a glory hog. I actually look forward to when he runs things as a fully retired wrestler, because I think he will actually have the best interest of the boys at heart, health wise, mental and physical. Minus his obvious steroid use, I definitely respect the fact that he didn't really drink and do drugs in a time when it was all over the place. He does deserve respect, but he's also a total dink in a lot of ways.
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He's the new Dusty Rhodes
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Gonna refer to the end of the Battleground PPV as the birth of the "hunter finish".
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Minus the fact that Dusty was actually the fucking man, but I see what you're saying. |
ROFL ITS HILARIOUS TO SHIT ON TRIPLE H LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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not gonna lie having an awesome time doing so
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When Dusty booked he basically made the show about him and his friends. WCW lost a ton and it messed them up.
HHH is a quarter of a legend that Dusty was but thinks people still want to see him. |
Dusty also didn't have to sleep with Jim Crockett's daughter to get a mega push.
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Yea because losing dirty is still losing. You are still "outsmarted" and don't get the job done. You'd rather lose clean in an incredibly hard fought match where both guys come off strong.
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And now Ryback is getting planchas from El Torito
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If Ryback is as unsafe in the ring as the reports say, then he doesn't deserve a top spot.
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I actually thought the way Ryback lost at Hell in a Cell was fucking perfect. If they had Punk just cheat at then get the 3 count it would have still be awful because you would have taken away Ryback's aura of invincibility that got the crowd behind him in the first place. Instead they didn't even have him get pinned for a legit 3 count while also getting the over-done undefeated streak distraction out of the way. It was perfect.
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Pretty much. In the short term I can see it making sense because it's a clash of "legends" of sorts, but it's not like HHH or Brock needed 3 matches, maybe the one at summerslam where Brock went over, but three was overkill considering how limited Brock's appearances are. But his match with Punk naturally eclipses ANYTHING he did with HHH, as would his matches with any of the top of the new breed food chain. But HHH IS THIS BUSINESS and thus him having a series of matches with a hot commodity like Brock eclipses the importance of the future of the company's t.v. product and making new stars :) Right James?
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Lol remember when HHH hinted at retirement and cut that promo and literally nobody in the arena cared.
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oh man he really showed what a master psychologist and maestro he was of the audience in that exact moment
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He totally wanted the crowd to chant "you tapped out" during a retirement speech
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What are you clowns on about? I distinctly remember H manipulating the crowd into chanting "YOU TAPPED OUT". Guys are haters!
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My personal fave is when Randy Orton was the hottest heel in the company, and then HHH proceeded to "attack him" "at his home" and then beat him clean at wrestlemania, completely robbing him of any momentum. Remember all of that steam Orton picked up after that? Oh because I don't either.
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What about when he made Sheamus look so strong by beating him clean at Mania that Sheamus was too good and over to be on the card the following year?
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Or how about that time he returned from injury in 2001 and got one of the biggest pops ever. What a shit rassler hahaha
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when he was legitimately the best all-round professional wrestler on earth in late 1999 through early 2001. That was really bad for business :(
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Was it not the beginning of '02? And yeah I remember, he went onto have one of the flattest wrestlemania main event feuds with Chris Jericho, which Jericho took years to recover from, because Hunter blamed him for it, even though it was just awful booking and all it was, was Hunter vs Steph. And when he one the championship at mania, you could hear a pin drop.
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that definitely had nothing to do at all with having to go on after maybe the loudest, most exhausting WrestleMania match ever for a crowd in Rock vs. Hogan
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The main-event of Wrestlemania that year should have been Triple H vs. Austin.....with Triple H going over. Either that, or you could have just had Rock/Hogan as your main-event, and make it a title match. The WWE completely fucked over Jericho during his World title run. Even though he defeated Austin and Rocky on the same night, it was made to look like a complete fluke. All throughout Jericho's run, Jericho was made to look wildly inferior to his opponents while continuously getting "fluke" victories. Jericho's lack of established credibility as a World Champ, thanks to woefully bad booking of his character, helped lead to a lackluster main-event. The WWE also changed Triple H's character way too much (as they have a tendency to do when they attempt to turn a successful heel into a successful face) and so Triple H's pops had been on decline since his January return. Jericho never had his "Triple H over Foley" moment. If I had to do it all over again, I would have kept Austin as a heel champ until Mania. |
they could have brought out the ghosts of Andre the Giant and Owen Hart with 70,000 briefcases filled with cash for all attendees after that Hogan/Rock match and the crowd would have still been like "woooo"
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well yeah, bringing out ghosts at a wrestling show is a ridiculous comparison. But Hogan/Rock would still have outpopped them
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there are times when wrestling is going to be predictable, everybody knew Hogan was gonna beat Andre, HBK was gonna beat Bret, Austin was gonna beat HBK, Austin was gonna beat Rock, Batista was gonna beat Triple H, Taker was gonna beat anybody at Mania etc etc. It's not always a bad thing. Had Triple H/Jericho gone on before Hogan/Rock, it would have been a perfectly acceptable Mania title match. They just shit out in terms of the order of the show, that Mania mantra of "the belt must go on last". Which is an understandable line of thinking. But they learned their lesson.
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Aka not something you want out of your mania main event. People would have been into it if it was excellent, and it just wasn't. It was a flat match, to end a flat feud. And yes, hindered by the fact that it had to follow Rock and Hogan, but the true greats find a way to make it work, and Hunter just didn't. (Neither did Jericho either, but we're not talking about him right now).
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the build absolutely wasn't what it could have been but even with Jericho looking like a huge threat going in, there still wouldn't have been a doubt as to who was going over. If they went on before, the crowd would have booed when they were supposed to, cheered when they were supposed to, cheered for Pedigree and they both go back and hug and nobody blinks an eye. As it was it was like "we're getting something we've seen before after one of the greatest things ever".
As for "true greats find a way to make it work", nobody in the history of wrestling could have done anything with that crowd after Hogan/Rock. Maybe Austin at the peak of his popularity could have gotten a bit out of them but he's an exceptional circumstance rivaled only by one of the guys already in the previous match. Hogan vs. Rock is the most "unfollowable" match in the history of the business. |
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I literally watched the Triple H/Jericho match last night, and honestly, out was pretty good match . Well paced, well worked. The crowd did pop for the finish, they were just gassed from blowing their lungs out for Hogan/Rock.
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HHH inisisted on going out last.
Remember when Scott Steiner came to the WWE and was hot as shit, and then HHH buried him. Steiner hadn't wrestled in a while so HHH wanted to make him look bad by having a ridiculously long match and wouldn't take some of Steiners moves. Remember when HHH fought Orton at Wrestlemania and Orton got in no offence? That was fun. Remember how HHH had a 15 minute promo on Raw that went about 13 minutes too long? Oh wait, that's every week. Remember that epic Booker T and HHH feud? Where were you that day when that match was signed? Timeless. I may have been in heaven. Remember when HHH unmasked Kane and it was an amazing moment, and then went on to bury him in every match, as well as fuck Kane's gf's corpse. Remember when HHH and HBK had one massive sword fight reunion and fought 2 on 5 handicap matches against 5 young talent in the Spirit Squad that resulted in 2 of them leaving wrestling all together after DX won every match and then shit on them by throwing them in a box with OVW stamped on it. Good times. |
Leave the memories alone.
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