Because it is easier to bump this thread than the Supergirl thread....

Just watched Supergirl/Flash episode.... loved it.... feel like Barry meshed in and worked very well with all the characters....

Loved the mix of the theme musics through the course of the episode....

Laughed at Cat Grant's comment about them looking like the cast of a CW show.....

Supergirl is kind of not a good show though. I can't tell if it's intentionally cheesy or not.

It does remind me of Lois and Clark new adventures of Superman for that very reason.

I generally like it.... Just hate everything to do with Kara's "love life"....

Cool poster, I like it.

Yeah that was really good.

Love how they can do such ridiculous things on this show and get away with it

It works too.

Just saw the Supergirl crossover. Felt like it should have been 2 weeks later to explain the Tachyon device.

Well technically there is no guarantee that was "our" Barry

Ugh.. Fair enough.

That was "our" Barry.

Also I say this every week, but I don't care.

Tom Cavanagh is the superhero TV Jesus. He's consistently great.

Yeah, was "good" to see him in evil form again

Good episode this week again, and finally more episodes coming up without random breaks.

Think the man in the iron mask is definitely the real Jay Garrick... Otherwise where would Hunter Zolomon of earth 2 get the idea to change his name to that name....

Yeah that what it seems like. Really good episode to.

However people of Earth 2 should have maybe been able to point out that there Flash looked a lot like a known serial killer?

But he didn't have a beard! And he had short hair. Totally different person.

Touché, Lock Jaw

I like this Teddy Sears... I think he's doing a good job. Kind of feel that Zoom has been the biggest threat as a villain in either Arrow or The Flash, and I guess Legends of Tomorrow.

So wild speculation about the dude in the Iron Mask. While I agree that it most likely is Jay Garrick...However that is not mind blowing and the creators of Flash are saying that it is "Mind Blowing!"

So based off it being mind blowing my prediction is Eobared Thawne. Don't know how or don't know why, but that's my guess. Only thing I could base it on is how did he recognize Jay Garrick's helmet in the finale last year? Well maybe because he saw it when he was prisoner of Zoom.

Again just a fun predication, that I'm not really strong about.

I dunno man, but I really really want to know who the man in the iron mask is, and I get so frustrated at having to wait....

Maybe its the flash from the 90's show

Didn't see that coming. Kind of ruined by next week's preview and I guess Arrow? Arrow could possibly be a head of Flash right now though... Possibly?

Good stuff tonight.

Arrow could be behind too.... maybe that was Barry before losing his speed at the funeral....

Wonder if this gives Wally and Jesse their speed....

Yeah I think Arrow is behind with the funeral scene. Also believe Wally and Jesse are speedsters now.

Don't think that funeral is to far behind Flash but just befor Barry give up his speed. Kinda bummed Barry hasn't mentioned anything about Supergirl yet but I suppose Cisco could have a vibe later that forces him to tell them.

On Flash he already traveled to SuperGirl's Earth. They just did a passing mention of it 2 episodes ago... Maybe 3?

I know but Barry has never mentioned anything about it. No one in Barry's world knows

The best part of this episode was that Wells stopped wispering all of his lines

Dunno about a race to decide the finale.. It's logical but feels like shenanigans are about to happen anyway.

Hope it's better than Supergirl and Flashs race. I liked that episode but them racing kind of looked like the original Flash tv show motions. Feel confident it'll look alright though. Definitely some shenanigans bound to happen.

I think this is connected to what he had black siren doing

I'm pumped for this.

Someone, (probably Lock Jaw) is going have to explain this time remenent? Having a lot of trouble understanding it.

That was good. However it was underwhelming until the final minute.

I didn't see that coming.

Yeah, thought we would get a clue at who next seasons villains was but now I don't know what's going to happen. Fastway could be right. Pretty good season finale.

I'm not quite sure either. I'll take a guess:

The Flash runs back in time to a time just before he decides to run back in time. So then when the second Flash joins the race, the current Flash doesn't need to run back in time, making The Flash who did run back in time a remnant of an alternate timeline in which The Flash did run back in time.

If that makes sense.

Anyways,

Thought the finale was pretty "anti-climactic", especially compared to last year. Big moment at the end, though.

Damn.. Didn't think they would go Flashpoint on us.

I bet the Legends of Tomorrow set things right with the timeline

Just in case that house isn't already too crammed with time travelers that night

Unofficial time travelers convention at Barry's house

nearly:roll:

So I'm guessing Rex Tyler and the rest of the Justice Society are on Earth Three. Earth Two is more of a Bizarro like world. Supergirl would be Earth Four? I don't know but seems like next season will get real deep into the multiverse.

Nah that's a good answer, and I think you're right.

Still confusing and they should avoid time remnant's use in the future. They went to that well one too name times.

Wally's new look next season:

Looks good

Just started binge watching season 2. I really enjoy this show. I was doing the same with Arrow but I just can't stick with it. Is that weird? Like I dig Stephen Amell as Arrow... but this show just entertains me more I guess. I even watched Legends of Tomorrow and dug that over Arrow as well... I do need to catch up on it just to bring everything together.

Anyways, Season 3... Flashpoint? I'm intrigued.

Also... should I be watching Supergirl?

I think Supergirl will be better this season. Not that it was bad last season but Superman will actually be making some appearances. She's also going to be involved in the 4 show cross over eoisode with Arrow,Flash, and Legends.

I watched supergirl on netflix AND I LOVED IT. Budget will be interesting this season. They had a 3mil per ep beudget on CBS and they will have much MUCH less going into CW. But I hope they can make it work.

I liked it tonight glad it's back.

Some good Reverse Flash.

I do think things could become confusing this year.

Yeah, good premiere. Glad this show is back as well. Best of the DC bunch of shows.

"Cool" that they had a relatively obscure character like The Rival...... weird mask.......

I liked it and have also been awaiting its return. Rich Cisco was cool. Wonder if any changes happen in the other shows?

Tom Felton looking mad old now

Yeah he does... It's too obvious that he's Dr. Alchemy right? So he's probably not.

Is Dr. Alchemy a Flash villian from the comics?

Dr. Alchemy is indeed a Flash villain from the comics....

I find it "funny" how in this show they are all "You can't mess with time, there are consequences" and then there's a whole other CW show where all they do is mess with time.

And you know he is going back the night of his Mom's murder at least one more time.

I do hope they don't do much more time travel though. It is a little overkill.

Just finished the episode where they catch Thone and then have to send him back in time to save Cisco. I love out they brought that all the way around and explained that its Thons orgin story and how it's how he knew Wells, Cisco, Flash, Joe and Caitlyn. It makes the whole car crash scene and why he chose Wells make complete sense.

*Thawne

Dont know if it is mentioned in the thread, but my favorite easter egg from the Earth 2 episode was when they were in Wells, star labs office and the TV was on and the news lady mentions Mayor Snart. :lol:

Wells' face machine thingy is the dumbest writing ever. I was on board until he zapped the room so they (the audience) could see HR.

Seriousy fuck off

The last 10 minutes of last night's episode was the best 10 minutes of the entire season so far. Otherwise this season hasn't been as good as Season 2 up to this point.

Savitar has a cool design though.

Well

Yeah, went with the way obvious route on this one..... But at the very least seems like maybe he is "split personality" and "doesn't realize" that he is Alchemy......

I keep on thinking there is more than one. Like they are Savitars "Alchemist"

MUSICAL EPISODE NEXT WEEK

DARREN CRISS TO PLAY MUSIC MEISTER

Musical numbers from Darren Criss, Grant Gustin, Melissa Benoist, Jesse L. Martin, Victor Garber, Carlos Valdes, Jeremy Jordan, and John Barrowman

Thank Christ. This season is long overdue some levity. I miss season one, or at least its tone. Legends of Tomorrow has so much joy these days, and has become such a strong show generally - it's sad to see The Flash wallow in the same pit over and over - big bad speedster, Barry never learns anything, everyone still keeping secrets after a million "let's never keep secrets again!" speeches...

Also I get that it's necessary to the plot but the whole "Wally has to save Iris because he's faster than Barry" kind of negates the opening "My name is Barry Allen, and I'm the fastest man alive" spiel, no?

HR is still great though. Tom Cavanagh is a gift. Wonder if HR is Savitar. They are the only two characters who call Wally "Wallace", that line about how he "love[s] a good myth"... Not that I really want another "it was Wells all along!" reveal bc I just kind of want a Wells to stick around and be Wells for more than a single season. Which we ALMOST got with Harry. Man, I miss Harry.

I've seen the Barry/Wally theories too but ehhhh

Whats the Barry/Wally theories?

That Savitar is Wally from The Future.

After tonight I think it's Jay Garrick.

I think Savitar is Julian.

Def wally imo

Also wont watch tomorrow's ep till WED. My local CW is SD and 4:3. Ill watch this on the app for the HD/16:9

tomorrows ep is on my Ondemand watching it now.

Unless i'm a week behind. Last one of saw was Wally getting stuck in the speedforce.

!!!!

The one i'm watching now

I might be a week behind then. Didnt realize it.

Yeah that was last weeks

Felt v attracted to Melissa Benoist (more than usual) while she was singing Moon River.......

Can't remember.... has Flash ever even met Merlyn..... I know he was in it because he cn sing, but seems "weird" that he would just randomly be in Barry's fantasy world.....

Yeah they have met. Barry saved him along with Arrow crew in season 3 of Arrow in Nanda Prabet.

Also met in the Flash/Arrow crossover in seasons 2 of Flash and season 4 of Arrow.

Watching now.. ooo a crossover. cool

There is for sure something to HR and Savitar calling Wally, Wallace, but i'm hoping not, unless the second one, Jesse's dad, comes back. But i'm liking HR too.

As a recovering Gleek this was just lovely

It was ok. Supergirl was unreal hot as usual.

Really loving this season. They are really trying to make people think HR is Savitar. I dont think he is. I dont think it's Wally/Wallace either. Not sure who it is.

I kinda thought it might be Barry from the future, but the previews kinda rules that out.

After tonight, i'm pretty sure Jesse Quick is Savitar.

Agter tonight i have no clue at all

I am intrigued on the identity of Savitar. Now it could be my imagination but the voice of him as he met Killer Frost sounded like Thaun.

Now i Know Thaun was finally killed by the time wreath on Legends of Tomorrow, but maybe it's him from another earth yet revealed.

So did everyone like the revel of Savitar?

I liked it. Barry was pretty much the only real possibility left.

I did. This season has beem excellent.

Some things dont make sense and it irritates me. Like, why didnt Savitar go get that Tracy chick himself and kill her. He knew she was working at the school, because he has all of Barry's memories.

I hadn't thought about this until Flashpoint had been mentioned.

I'm thinking he needed things to go a certain way toi make sure his timeline happened

:'(

The only way to bring Iris back is to keep Barry from becoming Broken. Cisco needs to vibe Impact Wrestling.

I am bummed, but i saw it coming.

I really like Iris. She's gorgeous

nevermind :P