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When you posted your experience of it initially you used spoiler tags.
The moment Rammsteinmad went out of his way to openly spoil the ending you quoted his post and repeated the spoiler too. There is no need for that sort of posturing. You U-turned on your spoilers immediately just because someone else refused to use them. I didn't need to know the ending and I don't think it's fair to suggest that going into a thread where everybody was talking about what may happen and telling them what actually does happen is a fine thing to do just because the movie is now out. Try your best to tag things regardless of when the film came out unless you are in a spoiler thread. Failing that I will edit tags into posts or change the thread title. All of this has been repeated in triplicate. |
Seanny if everyone disagrees with you, you are most likely wrong.
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Whose the mod here so we can clear this up?
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Just do a poll.
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If the thread title says "major spoilers inside" then what is the issue... People should be able to post spoilers in the thread... And people who don't want it spoiled should avoid the thread if it says "MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE"... Confused about the argument...
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I edited the title to say that after Rammsteinmad decided to post the ending just to make some sort of demented point. This lot are arguing over not wanting to use spoiler tags despite me repeatedly saying do what you like because I'll edit thread titles accordingly. There's a difference between discussing a topic and posting purely to give away details. So I'll say it again, if people don't want to use spoiler tags I will edit the thread titles. Do you want me to say it again? |
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So you not gonna do a poll tho?
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To what end?
If there are people determined to post spoilers wherever they want, all I can do is put warnings in thread titles. You all have the ability to create threads so you can decide for yourselves if you want spoilers in them when you write the title. Will a poll change that? |
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Idiot, I've already given you what you want. There was nothing to take away.
At no point does a poll give anybody any advantage when there is nothing at stake. |
It's not a legislative poll, just an experiment of sorts. Your argument constantly deferred to the opposition being assholes and people must be protected from us.
So... I'd like to see how many people agreed with this. It's just curious that nobody actually spoke for themselves on the matter. It's us who wish to speak openly in the movie's thread, and you who fears for a hypothetical victim of our chat, and... that's it. Nobody to explain exactly why they aren't able to avoid a thread for a while. It's just been your assertion that they can't help themselves, far as I can tell. I just wanna see a poll on the matter. |
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Who cares, it isn't that big of a deal. Everyone just move on. No one should be caring about any of what has happened in this thread with spoilers so much. |
Yeah, let’s talk about Avengers you fags.
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The problem was literally concerning talking about Avengers.
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When the X-Men came out of that time vortex yooooooooo. Hype. I cried.
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Just riding right by the previous page and a half about tags. I'm using them anyway, just needed to get my wall o text printed first, since I keep getting trapped with that "back key" thing. I don't have much of a problem with tags myself. It is just an extra click to see and a tiny bit of extra typing to make.
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A very important distinction between Post-IW Thanos and 2014-Thanos was yes, this Thanos wasn't burdened with sacrifices needed to win (Infinity War was a movie about who could and couldn't make hard choices). Thano 2014, I felt, was affected by seeing his future self broken and killed than he gave off.
At the final battle he revealed that for the first time it was personal, now that he knows that the unruly wretches on Earth would actually avenge the taken and more or less win eventually. The combination of not taking the Avengers seriously enough and seeing his own death led to a shift that we almost didn't catch. He made peace with planning to lie. Multiple times between these two movies it was made very clear that Thanos does not lie. He didn't raise his daughters to do so, and he honored every deal we see him do in his appearences - up to sparing Stark's life when given the Time Stone, an act of honesty that ultimately cost him his entire campaign. So what does 2014 Thanos do? He plans on killing everything ever, an indictment on his own original motivations, and openly ignores that the new universe would be built on a lie. This regresses more into a more traditional villain, of course, and this more unhinged Thanos is presented throughout the final battle. More prone to impatience, rash decisions, and mistakes. Under no circumstance would a calculated, "I'll do it myself" Thanos do something as risky as take on the Avengers knowing they have the Stones. Before he grew stronger as he collected them, having a head start with the Power Stone. Now he just has a fancy sword, and no actual experience telling him that Dr Strange by himself was able to hang when he had four stones. Stark made him bleed when he had four stones. Wanda held him back one handed when he had FIVE stones. And Thor nearly killed him AFTER he tried a full Infinity blast. As powerful as he was, the Avengers are dangerous when they go full throttle. Something a methodical Thanos would keep in mind, but not an impatient Thanos. Not one who abandoned reason. What I love about his death was his deafening silence. It's essentially playing back his opening speech in IW. But what I get from it was he couldn't meet the standard he saw in his future self. It's like seeing yourself in five years with a great job and hot wife, so you just overconfidently go for that job and the girl who doesn't even know you yet... only to screw it all up. You're not the guy to be, not yet. And now not ever. |
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As a mod of this forum you sure like ruining threads Seanny
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There is so much "gay" in this thread; y'all need to start braiding one another's hair.
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Too much kneeling
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For a mod of this forum you sure like ruining threads Seanny.
Edit: Please stop spamming troll posts, Vic. |
The spoiler discussion at least yielded some answers.
Please stay on topic. |
Kalyx with an excellent take on the two Thanos takes we got in one film.
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Currently the second highest grossing film of all time. God, I really hope this tops Avatar and takes the number one position.
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Hope it does. Hate Avatar.
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Zoe Saldana and her agent cackles at this race.
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She probably got paid less than Stephen Lang for Avatar.
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I imagine the random actress from a pseudo-sequel to The Professional would get paid less than a guy who been around.
The woman with two billion dollar movies on her resume now? That's a bargaining chip Disney will have to recognize. |
She had virtually no impact on their success.
Any attractive woman with moderate acting ability could have filled those roles. They weren't important enough to pay top dollar for a big name actress so you end up with Zoe Saldana who is possibly the perfect generic standard of beauty. You can tell she's attractive but why bother looking again because oh look, a funny joke or explosion. |
Zoe Saldana is 3/5 across the board, because the 3/5's never rock the boat.
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It doesn’t matter how good of an actress she is. It’s all about marketability, and she’s a well liked big budget mainstay.
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She has Star Trek under her belt too right? I dont know shit about actore and actresses but I know her. Shes definitely popular.
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Her ensemble films are popular.
She is lucky to be along for the ride based on talent alone. She has lucked into marketability by having snuck into three major franchises because she was cheap, attractive and decent. Nobody was buying tickets to Avatar, Star Trek or Guardians to see Zoe Saldana at work. She was boosted by 3D, an established franchise reboot and a plum spot in a film carried by Chris Pratt's name value and public interest in "comic book movies". I don't mind her. That's precisely why she's famous. |
The one movie that was a vehicle for her was Columbiana, and that was a critical and commercial failure. I like Zoe Saldana more than enough. But she's a role player.
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I'm not even sure what we're arguing about.
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Nerds being nerds.
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Throwaway line towards the beginning could tease what’s in store for black panther 2. Okoye tells Widow that there was an earthquake under the ocean. This could end up being the result of Namor and Atlantis, which has had a long running feud with Wakanda in the comics.
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I like that rumor. That could work.
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I went and caught this on Tuesday. Avoided the thread at launch time and jumped in after I watched. It got crazy in here.
Here's my take/thoughts on Endgame. Not gonna to into too much depth. - For as long I have been a movie lover, I've noticed then when a movie starts off with a really good song playing, it turns out to be a really good movie. Like, when The Rolling Stones' Gimme Shelter kicked off The Departed. So, when I heard Traffic's Dear Mr. Fantasy fire up, my toe was tappin', my head was bobbin', and I was singing along. I knew then I was in for a good show. - I had a few theories about how the surviving team would reverse The Snap. Suicide mission to snag the gauntlet from Thanos, find The Book of Vishanti and perform a spell/ritual, introduce Mephisto and offer the Avengers one hell of a deal, steal the time stone itself and fuck around with time travel. Nope. Turns out Thanos turned the stones into dust and Scott Lang and the Quantum Realm is the key. Who knew? - I agree with some of the comments about Thor. I think they took the broken, drunk, Jeff Lebowski thing a bit too far. - Totally surprised they got almost everyone back for this. Got Robert Redford out of retirement to reprise Alexander Pierce for 30 seconds, Tilda Swinton, Frank Grillo, Hayley Atwell, etc. A couple notables M.I.A were Toby Jones, Chiwetel Ejiofor, maybe one or two that I missed. Probably since Soderbergh's Ocean's trilogy you never had that much star power jammed in one movie. Incredible. - HA! Pre-Guardians 1 Gamora got pulled to the "present day". Now she and Star Lord gotta fall in love all over again. Should make for a good Guardians 3. I wonder if James Gunn trashed the script once he found that out. Kinda bummed out that the rest of them got a few seconds of screen time and Rocket and Nebula were pretty holding down the them representation for the whole flick. - Hi Bree Larson. Bye Bree Larson. See ya in a couple hours. :wave: :nono: That solo movie she just had only to save a spaceship and destroy a spaceship in Endgame was a head scratcher. I wish she had more of a role in this. - The Black Widow death threw me off. When they had to go back to Vormin I knew someone had to go. I knew the movie was in the works, but since it's going to be a prequel now makes it interesting. - Tony Stark saves us all. And gives up his life for it. I thought it was either him or Cap. Steve Rogers putting the stones back, but staying in the past to stay with Betty, and reappearing in the present aged and handing off the Shield was a pretty great moment. -Finally, I enjoyed the cast credits. You got everybody in there, but when you get to the main bunch, they all "sign off" with their signature. To me, they're done, sans Thor. Everyone's wrapped up. And this was a hand off to the new kids on the block. Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Guardians, Captain Marvel, they got some shoes to fill. |
I thought Gamora was turned to dust with everyone else that came with Thanos?
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She's the past version Gamora from 2014. So she was still aligned with Thanos at that point
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Yeah, but one would assume that Tony knew she was good people, and made sure not to dust her.
The search for Gamora is almost certainly going to be the main plot of (As)Guardians of the Galaxy. Maybe an awkward love triangle between her starlord and Thor. |
I really hope this beats Avatar as the highest grossing film.
Have my doubts, though. |
The idea of 2-2.5 hours of Thor unknowingly schmoozing Gamora while Quill tries his damndest to re win her over sounds hysterical. Please be a subplot of the next movie.
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Some dude repped me saying that Universal has the rights to Namor. Reading up on it, it doesn't seem that clear cut. Seems Marvel shares ownership with Universal. Universal would own full distribution rights for a solo Namor film, but not necessarily an appearance.
Regardless, Disney has enough money to buy the solar system, and if they want Namor, they're going to fucking get Namor. |
Could just do the same deal they're doing with Sony on Spider-Man. Considering what a money magnet anything Marvel has its name is, universal would be foolish not to consider.
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*Spoils movie to be a cunt*
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If Endgame doesn't beat Avatar the only possible reason in my head for that is a 3hr movie isn't rewatch friendly. I saw the first Avengers 3 times in theaters over two weeks. Endgame is amazing but it's a hell of a haul.
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Avatar is 162 minutes long.
It's 20 minutes shorter than Endgame. |
The biggest reason I can think of would be the leak and the inevitability of spoilers.
The home entertainment numbers will be stupidly high a few months down the road. |
I doubt people who want to see the film are going to be put off because of spoilers.
Like, oh I know what happens at the end now, no point in going. Fuck that of course they're gonna go. IMO the deal with Avatar is because isn't that the film where 3D really kinda picked up and became what it is? I can say it's the only film I've ever seen in the cinema twice, once in 2D, and I enjoyed it so much I wanted to see what the 3D hype was all about so went again. (For the record I wasn't impressed. 2D is fine for me). They probably made shit loads just off of people doing that. |
If it didn't make any difference they wouldn't care about leaks or spoilers. Every preview would show the ending.
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It prob makes a difference. But not enough of one to drive droves of fans away from seeing it. I knew damn near scene for scene what I was gonna see in Batman Begins because the original script "leaked", and still made it a point to see it twice.
The casual fan might be turned off by spoilers. But these days, it's almost expected with social media playing such large roles in our lives. I can't imagine people turning away due to a spoiler making that big of a dent in a film's earnings. |
There are more casual fans than anything else.
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And those casual fans still see shit on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and reddit. Social media isn't what it used to be, where it was a small corner of fandom for whatever the topic product was.
Going online and discussing things like movies and trading spoilers isn't reserved for just is nerds anymore. It's apart of the culture. Some still might never go to the theater if a movie is spoiled, but I doubt it's much. People are likely to go whether they know the ending or not. |
You're making big assumptions there.
I'm confident that spoilers impact noticeably upon box office revenue as there are established examples of it. I think Endgame not beating Avatar could be an example of that. Whether spoilers or leaks have any impact on home entertainment is harder to gauge but I imagine it's negligible with a "time heals all wounds" mindset. |
I mean, we're both making some assumptions here. There's nothing I'm aware where we could even remotely gauge this.
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You're a dirty liar!
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Just about fell off my chair laughing at myself there.
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Lmao you idiot. I just spat my water out.
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That was the truth trying to come out
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The water found your response repulsive and wanted nothing to do with my verbal reaction.
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omg we were so close to talking about the movie again
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Ant Man!
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Stan Lee's cameo should have been at Cap's grief counseling giving a monologue about heroes. I know they couldn't have known when he'd die, but I would have at least beefed up his cameos to be more meaningful knowing he's generally at the end of his days.
One of a very few things I'd change or adjust in the movie. |
It's weird how his brother Bruce died so young and so Asian by comparison.
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Yeah Stan's cameo was a blink and you'll miss it moment. And even then, I think a number of people in the audience missed it was him
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Honestly, even if they hadn't known this was his last cameo, I would've had him cameo as God escorting Tony to heaven.
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Like 'god' god?
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lol come on
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It's the ending everybody wanted and were denied.
Stan "God" Lee flying off on Rocket boots with Tony Stark's corpse. |
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Also, good movie. |
Then again - no deal. I will skullfuck her on my own. Like a scavenger hunt. But with a corpse to fuck. Booyah!
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This god thing is stupid. Revealing Stan Lee as a trans-dimensional Watcher would be much more 'Marvel' and also a proper send off. But absent that, I like the counseling scene insert.
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This thread was really shit.
The movie was aces though. Homerun. |
Get ready to break the Box Office record folks. Avengers Endgame is heading back to theaters with an extended cut.
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Apparently just a deleted scene after the credits and some sort of tribute
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