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Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:23 PM

Best Friends isn't much better.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:24 PM

They keep telling people they are pushing tag team wrestling, but they should actually show it.

GD 08-31-2019 11:24 PM

It’s that referee who cried during D Bry’s retirement speech.

xrodmuc316 08-31-2019 11:24 PM

If Chris Jericho weighs 225 pounds then Bobby Lashley weighs about 460.

Droford 08-31-2019 11:25 PM

I think Im going to try to go to Full Gear AND the first TNT show.

Evil Vito 08-31-2019 11:25 PM

Let's gooooooooooooooo!

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:25 PM

Evil Uno looks fucking shit.

slik 08-31-2019 11:25 PM

Love that Aubrey is the ref, she is good

GD 08-31-2019 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5280973)
weird ass body shape Jericho has... looks fat but has an eight pack somehow...

Vodka

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:28 PM

Lots of giving spots away in this match. Crowd clearly does not give a shit.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:29 PM

Thinking about skipping to shit I actually care about, but I kind of want to experience this like someone tuning in randomly and just having to stick with it.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:30 PM

JR working hard to try and polish this turd up.

GD 08-31-2019 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5280986)
Thinking about skipping to shit I actually care about, but I kind of want to experience this like someone tuning in randomly and just having to stick with it.

Fuck off so the rest of us can chill and watch

Triple A 08-31-2019 11:31 PM

hangmen page

xrodmuc316 08-31-2019 11:31 PM

"Jericho is in the best shape he has been in years" ~ J.R.

Wow lol

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:32 PM

The Dark Order are AEW's Ascension.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:33 PM

Go sniff some hair, Guru Dave.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:34 PM

Chuck Taylor doesn't look like he's even trying.

xrodmuc316 08-31-2019 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5280973)
weird ass body shape Jericho has... looks fat but has an eight pack somehow...

He's got that weird chest dent too, where the inside of his pec muscles are just gone. Not as bad as Kofi Kingston, but still weird.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:36 PM

"The match continues" - JR.

It sure does, JR. It sure does.

slik 08-31-2019 11:36 PM

This match is building like Page is winning it

slik 08-31-2019 11:38 PM

I feel like Page and Cena would work well together

Triple A 08-31-2019 11:38 PM

crowd doesn't seem to care about Page (neither do I tbh)

Triple A 08-31-2019 11:39 PM

hopefully Jericho wins, Page doesn't seem "ready" to be the champ yet

Evil Vito 08-31-2019 11:40 PM

Page's family being there in the front row makes me think he's winning.

slik 08-31-2019 11:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is AEW referee Aubrey Edwards jerking her head and body every time Jericho or Page hits one another? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard of ProSportsExtra.com (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1168004633421176832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple A 08-31-2019 11:43 PM

wish WALTER was in AEW

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 11:43 PM

Like the Last Man Standing match at NXT UK TakeOver: Cardiff, Page vs. Jericho has been better than I was expecting soo far.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:44 PM

Really excited to see Riho vs. Hikaru Shida.

slik 08-31-2019 11:45 PM

Pacing starting to get weird

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:46 PM

Nyla Rose is getting a Women's Title shot before she wrestles a one-on-one match in the company.

Evil Vito 08-31-2019 11:48 PM

For what it's worth, WWE always seems to have loved ones front row when someone is scheduled to win the big one. They just don't usually show the family so as to not make it a giveaway. But like at Takeover 25, everyone sitting around me noticed Britt Baker was sitting front row center which felt like an unintentional tip off of a Cole win.

But AEW actually pointed out Page's family being there so who knows.

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 11:48 PM

Page is lucky he didn't blow out his knee with that moonsault to the outside.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:50 PM

The actual Women's Championship belt is pretty.

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5281008)
For what it's worth, WWE always seems to have loved ones front row when someone is scheduled to win the big one. They just don't usually show the family so as to not make it a giveaway. But like at Takeover 25, everyone sitting around me noticed Britt Baker was sitting front row center which felt like an unintentional tip off of a Cole win.

But AEW actually pointed out Page's family being there so who knows.

Jericho winning and taunting Page's family would be an amazing way to close out the show. Also adds more fuel to their feud if they decide to continue it down the road.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:50 PM

Women's wrestling is another thing that AEW pimps as being emphasized, but there's no difference between this match and a WWE match.

Evil Vito 08-31-2019 11:51 PM

Jericho was the right call

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:52 PM

This match is losing the crowd. Reminds me of Emma vs. Asuka.

Evil Vito 08-31-2019 11:52 PM

In b4 WWE fanboys laugh about a near 50 year old WWE guy being the first AEW champ

Triple A 08-31-2019 11:53 PM

The right man def won

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2019 11:54 PM

Page vs Jericho was pretty good overall. Ladder match should have gone last but makes sense why they stuck with this match instead due to significance of crowing the first ever AEW champ.

All Out was great overall.

slik 08-31-2019 11:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aubrey does need to chill on the dramatics a bit <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a> <a href="https://t.co/v2w7N5i1Yk">pic.twitter.com/v2w7N5i1Yk</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1168008337419571200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 08-31-2019 11:55 PM

Very good show. Not quite as good as Double or Nothing, but still extremely watchable and worth the money.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:56 PM

Lots of "misjudgements" on this show. They've got their match in mind and they go out there and do the match they had planned, regardless of whether or not it gets over.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2019 11:58 PM

There's no way with three disappointing matches in a row that this is better than any Takeover I've seen.

xrodmuc316 08-31-2019 11:59 PM

I said it already today, but Jericho was the only choice.

He is the biggest name they have, his character can the with anybody, and Page just isn't a top guy yet. In the pecking order, he is like the 5th or 6th best guy they have.

This was a good show, but it didn't feel as big as Double or Nothing to me.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:00 AM

Did they bother to explain why Shida and Riho are having a singles match for a title shot and why the other women were in a Battle Royal?

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:02 AM

Riho's offense looks soft.

rez 09-01-2019 12:02 AM

Very good PPV. I'm sad I didn't pay fo...Vito paid!

It def had to have Jericho win the title to make it legit.

Triple A 09-01-2019 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5281023)
Did they bother to explain why Shida and Riho are having a singles match for a title shot and why the other women were in a Battle Royal?

was also wondering this

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:03 AM

Does every match need to have 8 million near falls?

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:08 AM

AEW seem to be putting together good video packages, but you just had the announcers tell us everything that's happened. Lots of awkward filler between matches.

rez 09-01-2019 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5281028)
Does every match need to have 8 million near falls?

Maybe. It's better than run ins

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2019 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5281023)
Did they bother to explain why Shida and Riho are having a singles match for a title shot and why the other women were in a Battle Royal?

Don't think so but it was implied because they won their matches at previous AEW shows.

AEW's been all over the place with title related stuff due to needing things in place by the time their tv show starts but also don't have enough time available to properly do it. Also didn't help PAC backing out of the first show sort of messed up their plans for the main title.

Triple A 09-01-2019 12:09 AM

post show

Jericho currently insulting everyone backstage, calling people idiots

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wXT7armPuIY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Triple A 09-01-2019 12:12 AM

alex marvez hosting... talking in a low, almost whispering low energy tone...

Triple A 09-01-2019 12:12 AM

what were they thinking even considering having him be their main pbp guy... insane

Triple A 09-01-2019 12:14 AM

Pac interrupts a Hangman Page press conference, says that Page is the "real reason" he returned to AEW, then throws a water bottle at Page

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:15 AM

Lol, what is this Cody entrance?

GD 09-01-2019 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5280993)
Go sniff some hair, Guru Dave.

Good one :y:

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:15 AM

For a guy who criticizes Triple H publicly, Cody sure loves cosplaying as him.

Triple A 09-01-2019 12:17 AM

Jericho cutting a promo backstage, celebrating with champagne and Alex Marvez's shitty voice is talking over him...

and it abruptly ends, cutting off Jericho

rez 09-01-2019 12:17 AM

eeee

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:18 AM

Cool visual with Cody standing in the crowd.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:20 AM

Great brawl to start. Very WWF Attitude main event style. Which Cody said he wanted to kill heading into his match with Dustin, lol.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2019 12:24 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Kahn reveals All Out will be in Chicago on Labor Day weekend every year</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168011387437608963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smart choice making it into their version of WrestleMania or Starrcade in terms of importance to the company.

AEW was unofficially born with All In and makes sense to continue celebrating its birthday with All Out going forward.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:25 AM

It makes sense to be in Chicago for the foreseeable future, but I'm not sure if you need to go out and say "every year" as a promise.

slik 09-01-2019 12:26 AM

yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rez 09-01-2019 12:27 AM

TIME TO WATCH

Bill & Ted Bogus Journey

GD 09-01-2019 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5281048)
yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

On point.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5281048)
yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ideally your shows should build. You end with the most emotional match. If Jericho vs. Page is going to bring people down, then he's absolutely right.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:31 AM

MJF is awesome at being MJF even in the babyface corner.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:32 AM

Earl Hebner is a comically bad ref.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:33 AM

Arn Anderson is the best worker on the show.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:34 AM

Lol, did Tully Blanchard just walk out for no reason?

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:37 AM

Cody is turning into quite the smart worker. If he were anyone else, Shawn Spears would have kicked out of like five finishers after everything peaked.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 12:55 AM

I'm tapping out of the Ladder Match. I don't care about The Young Bucks at all.

Vastardikai 09-01-2019 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5281055)
Arn Anderson is the best worker on the show.

That's kind of a given.

slik 09-01-2019 01:20 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have more questions about this than anything Punk related quite frankly <a href="https://t.co/qM8k993zT4">pic.twitter.com/qM8k993zT4</a></p>&mdash; jarethteen dream (@JarethOMMB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JarethOMMB/status/1167845619085520897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple A 09-01-2019 01:22 AM

hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked Tony Khan about Kylie Rae's status. He told me she asked for her AEW release and they granted it. It was amicable, per Tony</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168022045655019520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Droford 09-01-2019 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5281048)
yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I'll at least say this: whatever the title match is that comes out as the result of the tournament can't be as good as the ladder match tonight even if it ends up being Luchas vs Bucks again (which I doubt but who knows)

Droford 09-01-2019 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5281045)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Kahn reveals All Out will be in Chicago on Labor Day weekend every year</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168011387437608963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smart choice making it into their version of WrestleMania or Starrcade in terms of importance to the company.

AEW was unofficially born with All In and makes sense to continue celebrating its birthday with All Out going forward.

I was hoping they'd keep changing the name every year and it could be a train themed show "All Aboard" next year

Volare 09-01-2019 02:08 AM

I'm sad about Kylie.

Simple Fan 09-01-2019 02:20 AM

Hell of a show. Place exploded for the Arn spinebuster.

slik 09-01-2019 02:22 AM

That is interesting, she was so heavily promoted when they started up

slik 09-01-2019 02:22 AM

Hope she is ok

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2019 02:34 AM

I've heard she's been battling some mental health stuff. That is never good, and you hate to see someone tap out. That being said, her gimmick won't be missed.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2019 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5281065)
hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked Tony Khan about Kylie Rae's status. He told me she asked for her AEW release and they granted it. It was amicable, per Tony</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168022045655019520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guess that might confirm the recent rumor she's done with wrestling in general. Whatever she was dealing with was enough for her to call it quits in the end.

Jordan 09-01-2019 08:03 AM

Oh man what a great show! Listening to Dave and Jim Valley review, they were there live. I want to watch the CRACKER BARREL CLASH again lol.

Jordan 09-01-2019 08:03 AM

They really need to sign Tessa Blanchard.

Innovator 09-01-2019 11:18 AM

Something seems off about the Kylie Rae thing.

Evil Vito 09-01-2019 11:31 AM

The speculation is that Kylie has retired due to a neck injury, some are pointing to the deadlift German suplex at Double or Nothing.

Innovator 09-01-2019 11:42 AM

Yeah I get the story, still seems off

xrodmuc316 09-01-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5281099)
They really need to sign Tessa Blanchard.

If they sign Eva Marie, I guarantee I'll watch every show :drool:

Jordan 09-01-2019 08:12 PM

Official Ratings
 
Battle Royale - ** 1/2

Entertaining. Teal Piper was the only horrible thing about the match. I enjoyed it.

Private Party/Anjelico & Evans - *** 1/2

Really fun, amazing moves from both teams. Evans and Angelico stood out but not above Private Party, they rock.

SCU/A Small Boy and A Boy and his Dinosaur
- *** 1/2

Fun opener with some really hot spots for Jungle Boy and Luchasarus.

Omega/Pac - **** 1/2

Really great match. Nice to get this style again from Kenny which we wouldn't have gotten with Mox. Pac comes off a star, Kenny is a star, great result here with Pac going over.

Cracker Barrel Clash - ****

This was fucking awesome and so much fun. I really enjoy a good hardcore match like this on a long PPV. Nice to give Rave a victory, he has a lot of potential.

Dark Order/Best Friends - **

Solid work but The Dark Order gimmick is fucking lame, sorry it just doesn't work for me. There is something there but overall it hasn't been an impact yet so I'd say overhaul it somehow.

Riho/The Thick One - ***

This was good stuff, good surprise outcome.

Cody/Spears - ****

Great storytelling "Cody" match. Cody is officially my favorite wrestler now btw. I may change my avatar to some king of SMOKE AND MIRRORS theme.

Bucks/Bro's Ladder War - *****

Yeah I can't quite say for sure but this was one of the craziest and best ladder matches of all times. I love The Young Bucks. They are stars in a way I've never seen a tag team. They are as main event as The Rock 'n Roll Express ever were.

Jericho/Page (just saw that I never rated this match) *** 3/4

Looking back I'd have this match go on before the ladder match. But regardless, they had a really good match. It's just that it was a long show, a long match, and also I didn't care about Page and the whole booking of the first championship felt rushed to me. The fact that Page won this shot from a really horrible gimmick battle royale affects the rating as well as there was no true claim for Page to be champion other than "Khan want's Page to be a big superstar". This match actually did a lot more for Jericho than Page, not that that's a bad thing. We tend to criticize those around the age of 50 who still step into the ring and that's fine, but for the lapsed fan and new fans this is the right call.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2019 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 5281120)
Yeah I get the story, still seems off

There was also a rumor of her dealing with a stalker although not sure if it was just the person constantly stalking her online or also in real life.

Fignuts 09-01-2019 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5281052)
Ideally your shows should build. You end with the most emotional match. If Jericho vs. Page is going to bring people down, then he's absolutely right.

https://i.imgur.com/TkdTXew.png

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2019 08:35 PM

Apparently both Brandi and Tony Khan were really upset at Cody for having Pharoh walk out to the ring after he got scared from the pyro. Khan hinted that's never happening again if Cody wants both pyro and his dog for an entrance routine.

Kahn also had a legit concern with Page's horse when it came to the use of pyro. They made sure the horse was out of the building when pyro had to be used.

Volare 09-01-2019 09:57 PM

They care all around. Good image.

xrodmuc316 09-01-2019 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5281119)
The speculation is that Kylie has retired due to a neck injury, some are pointing to the deadlift German suplex at Double or Nothing.

"We are going to treat our wrestlers better here in AEW"

Wrestler gets injured at their show

"RELEASE HER!!!"


Way to go AEW lol


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