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Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 11:51 AM

Pompey :'(

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 11:51 AM

van Nistelrooy...:mad:

Danny Electric 02-07-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
van Nistelrooy...:mad:

:mad:

The Mask 02-07-2004 11:55 AM

YES

YES

OMGOMGOGMGYES

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 11:56 AM

Balls :mad:

They just had to give me hope we could get something :'(

The Mask 02-07-2004 11:59 AM

my strikers both got one a piece this week :love:

midfield seems a bit dead unless lampard can do something tomorrow though :'(

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 12:05 PM

Saha got two though didn't he?

Danny Electric 02-07-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Saha got two though didn't he?

I think he means for his fantasy football side.

The Mask 02-07-2004 12:08 PM

oh yeah, two

WOOO

probably shagged with the 3 howard let in though :(

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 12:09 PM

That's what I'm talking about

Ogen 02-07-2004 12:10 PM

Villa another win up to 8th starting to get little desires for Europe in my heart but my head says it won't happen.

Danny Electric 02-07-2004 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
That's what I'm talking about

Sos.

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 12:14 PM

11 points so far this week at least..not bad

The Mask 02-07-2004 12:16 PM

I have 9 that I know of. If henry or saha assisted any then I'm good too :$

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 12:18 PM

Yeah Henry got an assist

The Mask 02-07-2004 12:25 PM

that should make up for howards 3 then :$

Mr. Monday Morning 02-07-2004 01:13 PM

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The Mask 02-07-2004 01:15 PM

MSN convos are better saved as GIFs ;)!

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-07-2004 01:32 PM

RUUD:love: :kiss:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3..._ruudgt300.jpg

And also I laughed at this photo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3...llips300gt.jpg

:lol:

Wengerland 02-07-2004 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
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:mad: :rant:

3-1 defeat today. :-\ Wasn't as bad as i thought after last week but Bolton on Tuesday isn't looking too promising given both sides recent form. :'(

Dazz 02-07-2004 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
I seem to remember seeing him hit one earlier this season against the bar, so I don't doubt he can shoot. He needs to do a bit more than that though :p

And leave Matt Murray alone :rant: :'(

I actually like Murray, he did well last season and was brilliant in the play offs, shame he sucked against Chelsea.

And that one that hit the bar was in the Champions League, and it actually hit the bar and went in, but the Linesman didn't see it go in. Not because he is blind, but because the shot was so powerful it was a hard call to make, I was behind the goal, in the second row of the second tier, and I wasn't sure if it went in, and I had a better view then the lino.

Dazz 02-07-2004 10:48 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane and Gary Neville were reported to police by Everton fans who claim they screamed obscenities while celebrating the winner in their 4-3 victory. Fans stayed behind to give statements to police.

and this Millwall player called Moses Ashikodi oulled a kitchen knife out on team mate Mark McCammon, the row happened after training, in the canteen, and Ashikodi had to be restrained by staff and players. What a nutter.

The Mask 02-08-2004 03:56 AM

Cristiano learns fast :love: :shifty:

Cactus Sid 02-08-2004 07:05 AM

Not neccessarily Premiership news, but Paul Hart's been sacked, hard to believe last season they were linking him to the Leeds job

Mr. Monday Morning 02-08-2004 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
I actually like Murray, he did well last season and was brilliant in the play offs, shame he sucked against Chelsea.


That was Oakes :o

Dazz 02-08-2004 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
That was Oakes :o

:$

Anyway, what did everyone think of Huth today? I think that him, Glenn Johnson and Eidur Gudjohnsen were our best players. Gronkjaer keeps running the ball to touch, Lamps was average, Nicholas played well, Jimmy did nothing but win the penalty and score it. Mutuuuuuu :(.

Wengerland 02-08-2004 05:02 PM

I thought Huth did ok,made a lapse in the first half but recovered well and it seems the fans think he can hit a good free kick and i guess the one that he took was better than J-F's.

Gronkjaer's first half was probably the best i personally have seen him play for Chelsea,and Johnson looked better when he had less defensive duties,Mutu has got to do better though.:no:

Dazz 02-08-2004 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wengerland
I thought Huth did ok,made a lapse in the first half but recovered well and it seems the fans think he can hit a good free kick and i guess the one that he took was better than J-F's.

Yeah but like you say, he won the ball back (kinda). His free kick should have been rolled to him, he hits it straight and hard, he was never going to get it on target with a wall like theirs. It was cool when Jimmy told Huth to go back to the half way line, and then the fans were all like 'HUTH HUTH HUTH HUTH HUTH' and then Jimmy let him have it, and we all cheered. Like I say, shame it wasn't rolled to him. And he really crunched that player in the first half too.

packt up 02-08-2004 09:34 PM

Didn't see any of the games today :(.

I hate Man U. :)

We are fourth though so not a bad weekend :y:

Cactus Sid 02-09-2004 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
Yeah but like you say, he won the ball back (kinda). His free kick should have been rolled to him, he hits it straight and hard, he was never going to get it on target with a wall like theirs. It was cool when Jimmy told Huth to go back to the half way line, and then the fans were all like 'HUTH HUTH HUTH HUTH HUTH' and then Jimmy let him have it, and we all cheered. Like I say, shame it wasn't rolled to him. And he really crunched that player in the first half too.

That was funny as hell

When he struck it me and my dad looked at each other like, Holy Sh</>it

Dazz 02-09-2004 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
That was funny as hell

When he struck it me and my dad looked at each other like, Holy Sh</>it

he has a LETHAL shot, shame it wasn't on target :(, if you saw his practice shots in the pre-match warm up, fu</>ck me were they hard.

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-09-2004 07:14 AM

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image..._pires_300.gif

Muwhahahaha

Cactus Sid 02-09-2004 07:17 AM

Its only taken you....ooh...what.... 5 months or so to have a go at Pires?

Dazz 02-09-2004 07:26 AM

yeah that is abit out of date

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-09-2004 07:28 AM

Someone just posted it on the draw a superstar section on the bbc website

Wengerland 02-10-2004 09:21 AM

Anyone know the name of the music before that Chelsea have before matches? I've also heard it on Soccer A.M i think.

Wengerland 02-10-2004 09:28 AM

Oh yeah Bolton tonight,must say that i'm not very optimistic about it.Then again i did say that we would go down if we lost to Villa,though i guess this game is more vital as imo it determines the response(as i knew we'd lose at Newcastle),a win could see the start of a good run,kinda like the response after the Wolves game,and help get out of the relegation zone.

Danny Electric 02-10-2004 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WWEngland
Oh yeah Bolton tonight,must say that i'm not very optimistic about it.Then again i did say that we would go down if we lost to Villa,though i guess this game is more vital as imo it determines the response(as i knew we'd lose at Newcastle),a win could see the start of a good run,kinda like the response after the Wolves game,and help get out of the relegation zone.

I think that this is the best time to play Bolton because of Okocha's absence, but then again I said that the other day when Liverpool played them.
Is it at home or away?

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 09:50 AM

Leeds tonight.

DIE LEEDS DIE :mad:

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-10-2004 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Leeds tonight.

DIE LEEDS DIE :mad:

Nah leeds need to win to keep it interesting down there. Obviously that would suck for you but damnit I need to be Interested and entertained

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 10:04 AM

I hope Wolves win, They've got a great fighting spirit, they've been underdogs since day one, and I also think that Leeds have brought everything upon themselves and now they've gotta face the consequences

Danny Electric 02-10-2004 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
I hope Wolves win, They've got a great fighting spirit, they've been underdogs since day one, and I also think that Leeds have brought everything upon themselves and now they've gotta face the consequences

It's good seeing Wolves do well, being a local kid and all. I hope they stay up.

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake
Nah leeds need to win to keep it interesting down there. Obviously that would suck for you but damnit I need to be Interested and entertained

COME ON ARSENAL :mad:

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
I hope Wolves win, They've got a great fighting spirit, they've been underdogs since day one, and I also think that Leeds have brought everything upon themselves and now they've gotta face the consequences

:love:

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Electric
It's good seeing Wolves do well, being a local kid and all. I hope they stay up.

:love:

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
COME ON ARSENAL :mad:

:love:

Feel the love around here :love: :love: :love:

Dazz 02-10-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WWEngland
Anyone know the name of the music before that Chelsea have before matches? I've also heard it on Soccer A.M i think.

Do you mean the Russian song? PR knows the name of that, I can never remember it. Something like Kronikle but i could be way off.

Or the liquidator? that goes liek this: 'do do do do, do do do do, do do do do, do do do do,*clap clap clap clap* CHELSEA!

Or 'Blue Day', or 'Blue is the Colour' but I doubt thats on Soccer A.M. Then again i doubt the Russian song is either but I havent watched Soccer A.M in a while.


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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
I hope Wolves win, They've got a great fighting spirit, they've been underdogs since day one, and I also think that Leeds have brought everything upon themselves and now they've gotta face the consequences

I agree. :y:

Rob 02-10-2004 03:18 PM

I hope Leeds get stuffed too.

Oh yeah, Leicester just scored as I typed that.

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 03:37 PM

LMFAO @ THIS LEICESTER GAME

They are showing how fu</>cking stupid this "new" offside rule is, and Ian Walker just did the worst clanger....ever

Rob 02-10-2004 03:41 PM

I'm surprised 1000 Leicester fans never ran on the pitch there to slap Ian Walker like he deserved. What a useless wanker.

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 03:43 PM

F</>UCK F</>UCK F</>UCK F</>UCKITY F</>UCK :mad:

COME ON :mad:

Wengerland 02-10-2004 03:59 PM

Ian Walker's a ****ing twat.

I wanted Danny Coyne in after the Villa game to be honest,and this is just crap.I mean if the keeper makes mistakes then its hardly gonna be good for team morale.

I'm not gonna go mad at Bolton though,credit to them for exploiting the worst foorballing rule ever made,just sad that it's against us and that we've not got the brains to use it against them.

Wengerland 02-10-2004 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
Or the liquidator? that goes liek this: 'do do do do, do do do do, do do do do, do do do do,*clap clap clap clap* CHELSEA!

Thats it,is it called the liquidator or is that just the fans name for it? If it's an actual song/thing thats downloadable. :-\

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 04:47 PM

Jesus Christ.

Dave Jones, for the love of God, stop playing Kenny Miller on the right where he can't defend and he keeps leaving Irwin exposed.

F</>uck. I've never stopped believing we can stay up but shit, we haven't lost this badly since the Chelsea game, I thought we'd cut this crap out. And against LEEDS, of all teams.

We need to win all our home games to stand a chance :-\

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 04:53 PM

I think you'll make it, have faith

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 04:56 PM

It's doable. I mean, our home games are (not in order)

Boro
Villa
Southampton
Fulham
Tottenham
Bolton
Everton

Still though...:-\ Sounds like we were completely knackered after Saturday and just capitulated 2nd half.

Dazz 02-10-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
I'm surprised 1000 Leicester fans never ran on the pitch there to slap Ian Walker like he deserved. What a useless wanker.

:lol:

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:05 PM

wow,another lead lost.Thanks alot Walker(you dick).

I am so pissed off because Bolton did sweet FA to score again,but at the end of the day when our best player on the pitch is a 37 year old forward who is retiring at the end of the season it doesn't say much and a point from that match is no good for us,especially seeing as Pompey beat Bolton 4-0 at home earlier in the season so these are the games we must win.Wolves have looked a much better team at home but yet again we have lost a lead,even if we'd have won half of the games we were leading in and went onto draw/lose then we'd be about mid-table.

rant over.

Dazz 02-10-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Villa
Tottenham
Bolton
Everton

i think you can get at least a draw in those games, but your chances of survival aren't very good.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
I hope Leeds get stuffed too.

Oh yeah, Leicester just scored as I typed that.

:(

My super at work is like an uber Leeds fan

he was nearly going insane last time i saw him.

he needs a bit of sanity...

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
I'm surprised 1000 Leicester fans never ran on the pitch there to slap Ian Walker like he deserved. What a useless wanker.

I must say i wasn't displeased at the fan doing that.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane and Gary Neville were reported to police by Everton fans who claim they screamed obscenities while celebrating the winner in their 4-3 victory. Fans stayed behind to give statements to police.

Yeah like Everton fans weren't screaming obscenities at Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane and Gary Neville all day :roll:

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:11 PM

Apart from Liverpool,all our other home games are winable.Since the Chelsea game at home to the end of the season Leicester's home games are:

Aston Villa
Bolton
Wolves
Everton
Liverpool
Fulham
Man City
Portsmouth

I'm not confident of winning any of them now.:(

I guess rant wasn't over,sorry.:o

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
and this Millwall player called Moses Ashikodi oulled a kitchen knife out on team mate Mark McCammon, the row happened after training, in the canteen, and Ashikodi had to be restrained by staff and players. What a nutter.

Well his manager is Dennis Wise....

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 05:24 PM

millwall = :o

Dazz 02-10-2004 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WWEngland
Well his manager is Dennis Wise....

:rant:

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
:rant:

:D

Check out the post about the Chelsea song though,is it called the liquidator or something?

Dazz 02-10-2004 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
Yeah like Everton fans weren't screaming obscenities at Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane and Gary Neville all day :roll:

I didn't say that.

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
Yeah like Everton fans weren't screaming obscenities at Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane and Gary Neville all day :roll:

You forget who they were shouting at, it was the family enclosure, I'm willing to bet 75% of the people there would have been offended by it.

Of course, Neville says his piece, and comes of as a complete dickhead in my eyes "What do you expect us to do?" he says, well for one thing, your a bloody professional and supposed to be a role-model, you can celebrate a goal without yelling at the opposition's supporters, worse yet, kids.

Dazz 02-10-2004 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WWEngland
:D

Check out the post about the Chelsea song though,is it called the liquidator or something?

yes it is called that. I tried to download it but I coulnd't get any matches.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 05:35 PM

where did the dude that tried to attack C Ronaldo come from?

Rob Ban Fan 02-10-2004 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
I didn't say that.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">even if they were, its not an excuse.

Me and you have had this conversation already after the same thing happened with Wayne Bridge.

Just because you've been getting stick from the fans, you've still got to be professional, grin and bare it "yes, you've been giving me stick all day but ive just scored, we're going to beat you, I make more in a week than you make in 5 years." They shouldn't run over to the opposition fans and taunt them, its unprofessional.</font>

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
where did the dude that tried to attack Ronaldo come from?

Someone tried to attack Ronaldo? I'll just read around and see if anything's been printed about that

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
yes it is called that. I tried to download it but I coulnd't get any matches.

Damn. :(

Rob Ban Fan 02-10-2004 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WWEngland
Damn. :(

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, i tried it a few weeks ago too and i couldn't find it.</font>

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 05:41 PM

Ok, I looked into the guy attacking Ronaldo, and I still don't see how that justifies the actions of the United players. If a fan is able to attack a player, it is the fault of the security for not dealing with the situation. 1 idiotic fan does not therefore constituate every fan in the ground.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
Someone tried to attack Ronaldo? I'll just read around and see if anything's been printed about that

Apparently an Everton fan tried to attack Cristiano Ronaldo at Goodison right before he crossed to RvN...

Wengerland 02-10-2004 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, i tried it a few weeks ago too and i couldn't find it.</font>

:(

Quality song though,i'll admit to singing along quietly. :$

Dazz 02-10-2004 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">even if they were, its not an excuse.

Me and you have had this conversation already after the same thing happened with Wayne Bridge.

Just because you've been getting stick from the fans, you've still got to be professional, grin and bare it "yes, you've been giving me stick all day but ive just scored, we're going to beat you, I make more in a week than you make in 5 years." They shouldn't run over to the opposition fans and taunt them, its unprofessional.</font>

Look Rob, we've been through that, but this is different, Wayne Bridge never abused your fans, he just ran in front of them and celebrated, whether he was celebrating to the above two tiers of Chelsea fans, or the lower teir of your fans remains a mystery. :shifty:. But he never hurled any abuse at the fans, therefor, he didn't provoke them, he gave as good as he got.

When Chelsea played Boro a few years ago, Ince went down in the box, but it wasn't a foul, and one of the Chelsea fans (in the family stand) shouted 'It wasn't his fault, he tripped over his ego' and then Ince turned round and stuck his middle finger up at us. Some people cared, some people didn't, but he was wrong to do it because there were kids about.

When we played Arsenal a few seasons ago, we did the usual 'lets all do the Seamen', now, this was in his less witty days, where he simply turned around with a big smile on his face and stuck two fingers up at us. everyone clapped him for it, and no one cared, because everyone likes David Seamen.

The point I am making, is that it depends on who the players are aswell, alot of people do not like Gary Neville or Roy Keane, so they are going to be annoyed.

When we sung 'Posh Spice takes in up the arse' against United, and then Beckham scored a free kick, he ran over and slid in front of use with his hands at his ears as if you say 'lets hear what you have to say now', and ALL the Chelsea fans got annoyed, I too was pissed off, but we had it coming.
All three incidents happened in the family stand.

The fans acted more angrily to Beckham, then they did to Ince or Seamen, because in general, no one likes United, and this was before everyone was kissing his arse.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 05:58 PM

Bolton's Sam Allardyce has explained the way in which he exploited the change in the offside law to claim a share of the points against Leicester City.
Bolton used a system of placing players in obvious offside positions but then running back, taking advantage of Fifa's ruling change.

The system caused Leicester all kinds of problems - and the equalising goal came directly from such a set-piece.

"We've had a look at the new regulations and we have got to use them to our benefit," said an apologetic Allardyce.

"I don't like them and I think they detract from the game, but it is not the referee's fault he has to implement them and I blame Fifa.

"They have to change them, but in the mean time we have to use them to our advantage.

"It doesn't add anything to the game and it leave players and fans upset and angry.

"What we have done today doesn't look good to the fans but it makes it hard for the opposition. I think it shows the rule up to be honest."


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Dazz 02-10-2004 06:01 PM

I agree with Sam Allerdyce, I think he is a quality bloke, and he does speak alot of truth. Not just in this, but in general.

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
When we sung 'Posh Spice takes in up the arse' against United, and then Beckham scored a free kick, he ran over and slid in front of use with his hands at his ears as if you say 'lets hear what you have to say now', and ALL the Chelsea fans got annoyed, I too was pissed off, but we had it coming.
All three incidents happened in the family stand.

This is different IMO, because Beckham was not yelling obsenities at you, it was more of a "How do you like that?" kind of thing, it wasn't a nasty thing to do, unlike Keane, Neville and Ronaldo, who were making obscene gestures.

If they apologised for their actions, explaining how you get caught up in the heat of the moment, or just something to explain their actions and attempt to defuse the situation, rather than some complete bollocks that Neville comes up with about "we're celebrating, so we have to go and yell at people, swear, make obscene gestures" (ok, he didn't say this, but by not apologising and by what he's said, he's seemingly justifying it as an ok thing to do), if they did apologise, I'm sure everything would be fine, but then United aren't gonna get off their high horse, cos they can do whatever they want.

Rob Ban Fan 02-10-2004 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
Look Rob, we've been through that, but this is different, Wayne Bridge never abused your fans, he just ran in front of them and celebrated, whether he was celebrating to the above two tiers of Chelsea fans, or the lower teir of your fans remains a mystery. :shifty:. But he never hurled any abuse at the fans, therefor, he didn't provoke them, he gave as good as he got.

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Actually it was reported that he used foul language, i dunno how true that was but you could see he was definatly shouting towards the away fans. He also had his hands raised and shook his fists. He also ran the entire distance of the pitch, away from the goal, away from the home fans to the touchline where the away fans were and celebrated, he was still doing it when the other players dragged him away.

If that isn't acting provocitively, i dunno what was. He could've just celebrated his first premiership goal for Chelsea with the Chelsea fans, or if he was that desperate to make a point, he could've done something simple like putting his finger to his lips and shhhing.

He was over the top and he was provocative. Which was unprofessional. Like ive said to you before, its understandable but its still unprofessional.</font>

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
I agree with Sam Allerdyce, I think he is a quality bloke, and he does speak alot of truth. Not just in this, but in general.

Agreed, and what he has said is justifiable.

Dazz 02-10-2004 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
This is different IMO, because Beckham was not yelling obsenities at you, it was more of a "How do you like that?" kind of thing, it wasn't a nasty thing to do, unlike Keane, Neville and Ronaldo, who were making obscene gestures.

That was the point I was trying to make, maybe I didn't make it clear.

What I meant was we got more annoyed over Beckhams celebration then when players swore at us, because of who it was not because of who he is.

I think that the Everton fans are probably the same, because its Keane and Neville, they want to see something happen.

Dazz 02-10-2004 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Actually it was reported that he used foul language, i dunno how true that was but you could see he was definatly shouting towards the away fans. He also had his hands raised and shook his fists. He also ran the entire distance of the pitch, away from the goal, away from the home fans to the touchline where the away fans were and celebrated, he was still doing it when the other players dragged him away.

If that isn't acting provocitively, i dunno what was. He could've just celebrated his first premiership goal for Chelsea with the Chelsea fans, or if he was that desperate to make a point, he could've done something simple like putting his finger to his lips and shhhing.

He was over the top and he was provocative. Which was unprofessional. Like ive said to you before, its understandable but its still unprofessional.</font>

I could respond to this, but I would just be repeating myself from convos that I have had with you.

But, for the record, he ran HALF of the WIDTH of the pitch, nowhere near as bad as what you said, but yes, he could have just celebrated in front of us. If Bridge did yell things, then I would agree with you, but otherwise, I think that your fans had it coming. Just like the Chelsea fans had it coming when we took the piss out of Beckham.

Cactus Sid 02-10-2004 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz
That was the point I was trying to make, maybe I didn't make it clear.

What I meant was we got more annoyed over Beckhams celebration then when players swore at us, because of who it was not because of who he is.

I think that the Everton fans are probably the same, because its Keane and Neville, they want to see something happen.

I'm not sure, I mean, it really really does depend on the situation.

In the case here, Keane, Neville, Ronaldo, whoever, were yelling at the family stand, and I think genuinly offended some people, it's hard to say, because we don't know exactly who made the statements, who they were at the match with, etc.... but it still doesn't forgive those players for doing what they did, I doubt these people would make false statements to the police unless they felt something warranted it, even if its not an arrestable offence, whatever they did, if they are swearing at fans and making gestures, then they need to be punished.

Dazz 02-10-2004 06:21 PM

Agreed, I think that the players were wrong, and way out of order, but I still think that the Everton fans made a bigger deal about it because it was United players, they would have been just as pissed if it was Liverpool players. But I think it would be interesting to see their reaction to a team like Portsmouth or Leicester.

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 07:16 PM

At the end of the day, I think we can all agree on one thing.




Gary Neville is a twat.

Mr. Monday Morning 02-10-2004 07:19 PM

Oh, about The Liquidator btw; years ago I used to buy Total Football magazine, and one issue they gave away a CD with a few football songs on, whether they be unofficial anthems or fan-written songs ('Julian Dicks: The Terminator' :o ) - I *THINK* I have it buried at home somewhere. I'm going back not this weekend but the one after, so I'll have a look and if I find it I'll rip a copy of Liquidator for y'all, cause it was definitely on there.

Danny Electric 02-10-2004 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
At the end of the day, I think we can all agree on one thing.




Gary Neville is a twat.

Best thing ever said on the sports forum.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
At the end of the day, I think we can all agree on one thing.




Gary Neville is a twat.

True

Dazz 02-10-2004 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
At the end of the day, I think we can all agree on one thing.




Gary Neville is a twat.

:y:

But he is still the better brother.

toxic rooster 02-10-2004 10:50 PM

Surely not those red angels from Manchester?

I thought it was only those naughty boys from Arsenal ever did things like this.

Go tell Alex not to hang around that nasty Arsene any more..

The Duck 02-11-2004 06:24 AM

The fact that Ronaldo was nearly attacked by a fan right before the supposed incident seems to of gone un-noticed I take it.

Complaints could be made each and every week about 'offensive' celebrations or gestures. If we want to become more like the U.S and complain about petty incidents like this, then these Evertonian no-marks are doing a damn good job. Ronaldo was also pelted with plastic bottles - tell me if you wouldn't react to that?

If the United players did something wrong, then they should be punished - but from where I'm sitting, it seems another bandwagon has been built for United-haters to jump on and have their dig.

Cactus Sid 02-11-2004 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purpleduck
The fact that Ronaldo was nearly attacked by a fan right before the supposed incident seems to of gone un-noticed I take it.

Complaints could be made each and every week about 'offensive' celebrations or gestures. If we want to become more like the U.S and complain about petty incidents like this, then these Evertonian no-marks are doing a damn good job. Ronaldo was also pelted with plastic bottles - tell me if you wouldn't react to that?

If the United players did something wrong, then they should be punished - but from where I'm sitting, it seems another bandwagon has been built for United-haters to jump on and have their dig.

I said in a previous post, that the security should have dealt with the fan who went for Ronaldo, and I'm sure that he was removed from the ground, it is the security's issue to deal with anything like that, and again its making one fans actions the supposed actions of 30,000

The whole point here is that the United players have run across and yeld obscenties and used offensive gestures, I would agree that players use provocative celebrations most games, but their is a huge difference between, as in the case previously of David Beckham, and the case we are talking about here. I have said it on a number of occasions, this is extremely unprofessional behaviour, from players who are supposed to be role-models.

Footballers have always had to put up with HUGE amounts of stick from any fans, all over the country, and all over the globe. Take this point, Chelsea vs Beskitas, and absolute fu</>cking disgrace that the fans could act like that, did Chelsea start syelling at the Beskitas fans? No. It happens all over the place, and players are pelted with bottles and coins all over the place, and they get on with it, why should United be any different?

I don't disagree with players celebrating wildly, as long as they are not shouting abuse at fans, and most importantly, not in-front of kids.

The United players have done something wrong, if they've hurled abuse at the crowd, then they are breaking F.A rules, they have been unprofessional, have, as I've said a million times, they've broken the biggest thing that clubs set out to do, and that is be role-models for children and people in general.

Maybe it is another bandwagon, but I don't think you can deny, that United keep bringing these things upon themselves with the actions of the players, the manager, and the boardroom.

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-11-2004 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
Do you mean the Russian song? PR knows the name of that, I can never remember it. Something like Kronikle but i could be way off.

Or the liquidator? that goes liek this: 'do do do do, do do do do, do do do do, do do do do,*clap clap clap clap* CHELSEA!

Or 'Blue Day', or 'Blue is the Colour' but I doubt thats on Soccer A.M. Then again i doubt the Russian song is either but I havent watched Soccer A.M in a while.




I agree. :y:


Kolinko :D

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-11-2004 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
This is different IMO, because Beckham was not yelling obsenities at you, it was more of a "How do you like that?" kind of thing, it wasn't a nasty thing to do, unlike Keane, Neville and Ronaldo, who were making obscene gestures.
.

:roll: Evidence of the players making obscene gestures can be found where???

Cactus Sid 02-11-2004 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake
:roll: Evidence of the players making obscene gestures can be found where???

The 50 or so people who filed a complaint. If nothing happened, then they are all liable for fines.

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-11-2004 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
The 50 or so people who filed a complaint. If nothing happened, then they are all liable for fines.

Well the video evidence of the celebration after the goal showed NO gestures made by the Man Utd players, Only the odd scousers showing the flying V.


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