Yeah after the season I could see something like that going down. I am just hoping they don't trade H. Ramirez - I got a feeling he's gonna be sick.

Red Sox also have OF Jay Payton on the trading block since he wants to be an everyday player. Heard on the radio nobody is really that intrested in him though.

I think Miz is more of an Oakland fan then I thought.

Anyway, Miz, I was watching Sports Center the other night and they were going over the possible players to be traded in the baseball deadline, and I remember they got to Winn. The Mariners rejected a trade for Winn, and I remember being really shocked. Do you know who I might be talking about? I want to say that it might be Wang or something. Anyway, he should be the most expendable player on the block. Well not really, but if the M's get an offer for him thats legit, theres really not much reason to reject is there?

Damon is one of those guys that I would be shocked to see leave the Red Sox. Really, what reason would he have to go anywhere else?

Also, I read on Insider that Manny Ramirez is planning to retire after his contract runs out in 2008, but they are still looking to dump him now any way they can. Whats the deal behind that?

You sure that Insider article about Manny wasn't from 2 years ago? haha

I haven't heard one thing about Manny "getting dumped" why would they? He is fucking unreal and his attitude has improved a lot from when they were going to dump him before.

Yeah Winn is expendable. Jeremy Reed is the fucking man in center and we can move Raul Ibanez from DH to left. We need pitching desperately, we still have bums like Gil Meche in our rotation. Gross.

Saw this rumor in the paper

Yankees get:
Mike Cameron
Miguel Cairo

Mets get:
Gary Sheffield

Prolly not gonna happen cause they won't trade Sheff but I actually like this deal for the Yanks and the Mets are trying to break the record for having the most MVP-caliber players and still being shitty so this would work for them.

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Sheff got pretty pissed over this.

fuck that trade. I dunno why we need a center feilder. They're doing fine. It's the pitching that's terrible right now.

Yankees aren't fine at CF, LC.

are they doing that bad? I can't watch most of the games cause I'm in North Carolina, but what I'm seeing is 8-6, 10-5, 7-5 ball games all the time. It's like the Yakees have to score seven runs a game all the time to win. Johnson and Brown are hurt. Pavano and Mussina are streaky and we have no 5th starter really. Middle relief is shakey. Pitching is terrible.

Bernie is old and washed up and is incapable of playing everyday. It'd be one thing if he was at least playing defense but he is just as bad in the field as he is at the plate. Womack is not an outfielder or a bottom of the lineup guy which is why he is struggling so bad. Matsui is an okay LF but lacks the range and arm to be a CF.

Pitching is part of the problem, yes, but the defense is awful. Giambi and Williams are jokes and Cano, Posada, and Matsui aren't exactly gold glovers.

point I'm trying to make is getting a decent center feilder really ain't going to help us that much right now. If we could get Kotsay, yea that would be great. But Kotsay can't prevent the other team from scoring runs all the time.

I think you underestimate Kotsay. He is the most fundamentally sound outfielder in baseball, he might not make he Andruw Jones web gems but he is the most reliable defender is baseball. He gets better jumps on balls than anyone else and has a fucking cannon arm. He is not among the league leaders in assists because nobody even thinks about running on him. And at this stage in his career he's a much better hitter than Bernie. Obviously he can't help the pitching but if he comes to the Yankees and has a hot first few weeks the team will start to play better as a whole and gel. Look what happened to the Red Sox last year, they had alot of great players but they weren't playing well in June and were losing ground on the Yankees. They make a huge deal to bring in a great defensive player and a good hitter and look how it worked out for them.

lol @ Kenny Rogers by the way. The Rangers are a huge joke

I'm not underestimating Kotsay at all. I love Kotsay and I know how awesome he is. Great defender and hitter. But we got 5 starting pitchers, none who are doing a fantastic job right now. The Sox at least had Schilling and Pedro out there, who had people thinking automatic win the day they threw. With the Yankee pitching staff, it's like, so who's gonna show up today. The guy who is capale of pitching a complete game or the guy who gives up 6 runs within the first 3 innings. Having pitching like that can kill the morale of teams.

Kotsay is only one position and has no control over balls going over walls or balls getting hit down left, down right, up the middle. They're sill hits no matter what. Yea, he's way better then Bernie and can probably chase down a few balls and throw a few more people out, but I just don't see him solving all the problems. I really think it starts with pitching. When you have guys putting 0's up through 7 or giving up 1 or 2 runs, then the team feels more comfortable.

Just my opinion, but we'll see what they do.

I agree completely that they need pitching, but I think more pitching alone won't help them make the playoffs. Pitching + defense is key.

And why not trade Sheffield? It's not like they aren't gonna score any runs without him in the lineup. They're gonna score 6-8 every night regardless, so why not trade him for some pitching? I'm sure a team like the Cubs or Orioles or soembody who's trrying to stay in the race would love to have him and be willing to sacrifice starting pitching.

yea, pitching + defense does win ball games. Unfortunately he Yankees need both and I don't think they can trade for both.

I would trade Sheff in a second for a good pitcher. It was the Cameron deal that I wouldn't go for at all.

Yeah, the Sheffield deal wouldn't really solve any problems because they would be getting a good center fielder and then they are out a right fielder. I'm sure they would have Womack move again to right or something but it wouldn't really make much sense. I know they have Sierra too but I can't see him being played every day.

6 in a row for Oakland.

In theory the Yankees should have the best pitching in the league, but it's been the opposite all year. I think getting a good second or thrid starter would shape up their bullpen a little bit, and work on defense gradually. Kotsay is the best bet for a CF, but I wouldn't trade Sheffield. He helps being in those few extra runs. If Steinbrenner was smart he'd look at some possible 1B players in a few years.

It will end at 6. Cyan Franklin goes for the M's tomorrow

Yeah I don't understand the Sheffield trade on the Yankees part. Sheffield is one of their guys who is actually playing good, why trade him for Mike Cameron? Cameron is half the player Sheffield is.

I've read that Stanton and Quantrill are gone for the Yankees. Either released or going to be traded.

*Ryan

Cameron's defense is sick - that's why. Last year Red Sox traded a bat (Nomar) for defense (Caberia) and it worked out pretty good.

Except I wish they kept Caberia instead of getting Renteria but what can you do. Everyone has been telling how great Renteria is suppose to be, he's not bad but hes been pretty average so far - he has a shitload of errors too.

Caberera would have been the better of the two, IMO.

I agree. Caberia wanted a 4 year deal - Red Sox said they didn't want to do that becuase they didn't want to lock up the shortstop spot for that long because of Hanley Ramirez. Now they got Renteria there for 4 years @ 40 mil. I don't know, I guess they thought Renteria was "too good to pass up" - So far he has been a dissapointment. Both middle infielders have been pretty bad this year though, Renteria and Bellhorn both aren't playing as good as last season. Although Bellhorn hit a homer yesterday so maybe he'll turn it around.

Why doesn't Womack just play 2nd though? Cano sucks at defense, atleast when I saw them play the Mets - he looked lost out there.

I wonder if the Twins will make a run at Kenny Rogers now? On one of those shows I was just watching they said that Kenny wants an extension, and after all of this he probably won't get one, and since Texas is pretty much already done they might as well give him to a contender? I dunno, I'd probably part with Lohse and somebody else to have Kenny back.

Texas never thinks they're done until they're mathematically eliminated

Beltre with 3 errors today to go along with his .230 average and 6 homers. $11.4 million and worth every penny.

Fucking A's! :D

Lets see how good things go against the Sox though.

It was pretty obvious that Beltre wasn't going to continue where he left off last year though

Beltre's off the roids this year.

Blind accusations are cool

Ichiro is off the coke

Beltre should have stayed in LA and kept what he had going last year. Change of leagues/team probably messed up his flow now he is garbage.

Ichiros' slugging % is higher than Beltre's and they have the same amlunt of homers.

Seeya in 20 games Kenny!

Check out the Rangers awesome pitching staff for the next month

1. Chris Young
2. Chan Ho Park
3. Ricardo Rodriguez
4. Ryan Drese
5. John Wasdin

Where are those jokers that said Texas was gonna win the west/wildcard now? But they have the best infield in baseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-2 Detroit. See what I mean.

god, we have like no pitching what so ever.

That better not be Randy losing. I started him today

oh yeah he lost

God Jose Contreras sucks. 7 walks in less than 5 innings

Jason Repko just made an amazing catch. Seriously, check out sportscenter tonight.

And at the moment, Brenneman is telling a story about how the coach is saying Repko might be one of the top defensive OFs in the league. :meh: I haven't seen enough of him yet though so I don't know.

Seriously, good catch.

Sox fucking hammered tonight. 15-1 ridiculous

I think Damon kept his hitting streak going though

A's > ChiSox


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Not yet though, I might have jinxed it.

This game is all but over, unless Macha puts some dickhead like Glynn in for the 9th. If Street goes out there book it

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Book it. 10 strikes, 0 balls, 2 k's. Street = next Rivera/Gagne

Yeah he'll be winning championships with another team in a few years

They dont even have Drese anymore, the Nats picked him up off waivers I think.

Oh yeah forgot about that. My b.

1. Chris Young
2. Chan Ho Park
3. Ricardo Rodriguez
4. John Wasdin
5. CJ Wilson

EVEN BETTER

Granted though, Rogers will only miss probably 4 starts

Rogers always fades in the second half. With him or without him the Rangers suck.

And now Gonzo made a great catch today. Wonder what we'll see tomorrow.

Probly. :(

lol the Jays pretty much have owned the red sox all year... too bad they can't beat teams like Tampa when it counts.

:o

Bye Bye Booney :(

well fuck me, the Yankees won a game 1-0. how in the world did they manage that?

It's fucking ridiculous. I think the same thing happened a few years ago with Tampa Bay too.

I was hoping the Sox would win the series 2-1 since I knew Halladay was pitching one of the games. Can somebody get this guy outta the basement? He's fucking nasty

How about this trade. Alan Embree for Roy Halladay.

Embree's 8.05 ERA is real impressive isn't it??

how is he in the basement when his team is only 5 back of your leading team?

A's took 2 of 3 from the ChiSox.

Give it time. ;)

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The Pac NW will miss you Bret.

#29 for life!

Sheff just jacked one.

3-0 Yanks

Matsui almost hit one out of the Stadium

Off of Cy Young candidate Bruce Chen.

lol @ Sosa though. I bet he drops under Mendoza by season's end.

uh oh. GIMABI JUST BLASTED ONE.

What female could do that Miz?

probably Mia Hamm

What is he up to now, 4?

6 :roll:

wow, worse base running I've ever seen in my life Womack

except for Eric Byrnes :lol:

lol yeah dumbass A's, blew a 2-0 lead on the Red Sox

:shifty:

When maybe not the basement because the Devil Rays suck but they will be pretty close by seasons end.

And has Halladay once pitched for one season? Where did they finish up last year when he was pitching nasty? Like I said get this guy on a contender. I feel bad for him.

he was injured half the year last year :p and in the next couple years the jays will contend. Once they get rid of Hinske and his 260 strike outs per year.

Alan Embree (and his 8.05 ERA) for Roy Halladay

The Braves got rid of J.D. Drew before yet another freak injury. We sure could use him though.

well, here we go. Right on schedule for the Yankees pitching staff to blow another game.

I mean, can we get at least one decent pitcher. That's all I'm asking.

We'll give you Dan Kolb for free.

Or throw in Gary Sheffield. You bunch of thieves. :(

Nice job Yankee pitching

god dammit. fuck. again. screw this shit. They need to start unloading a bunch of these "all star" guys and trade them for young pitchers and players that are good. They can't go through the next 4 years like this.

As long as The Boss is The Boss, he can blame it on everyone else.

:mad:

We need Billy Bean to take charge right now.

lol

I swear if the Natspos win another one run game I'm gonna be really pissed off.

Check out some of the younger players the Yankees would've had had they not traded them away for players past their prime

Alfonso Soriano
Jose Contreras
Marcus Thames
Brandon Claussen
Yhency Brazoban
Jeff Weaver
Nick Johnson
Juan Rivera
Ted Lilly
D'Angelo Jiminez

Not that all of these guys are much better than whats on the field right now, but the Yanks could sure use a few of them right now

I was just thinking about it, and the Kevin Brown trade was like the worst trade ever

HAVE IT NATSSSSSS