Yeah, kind of a :| draft overall

lol yeah, there was a TON of hype and nothing really that cool happened.

The Miz, I hate to rub it in, but what position was Vince Young drafted to play?

:p

Hodge was stupid throughout the whole draft.

I've said all along he'd be drafted as a QB. I said he wouldn't succeed there, and if he does succeed in the NFL, it will be at a different position.

Technically your position still stands, he is yet to start a game at quarterback. That being said, I think some NFL scouts had some differing opinions.

Yea but nowhere in those posts did he say Vince was going to be drafted at a position other than QB. He assumed he would be better off at another position. Vince better hopes he makes it at QB because he isn't fast enough to play wide out. Plus nobody was really on Young's nuts until he tore apart USC's D in the Rose Bowl.

Young ran the most basic offense ever at Texas, it was pretty much check this one route or run - everything out of the gun. One team asked all 3 top rated QBs the same question (From SI) What play is your favorite on 3rd and 4? Young talked about a basic base play from Texas, Culter picked a played with 3 route options and Leinhart said he couldn't decided between 8 different plays. Personally I think that says a lot.

Talking about how big of an arm a QB has is pretty overrated to me. Considering the longest deep ball a QB usually has to throw is 45 yards. Thats not that long of a throw. Vince Young will be a star for the Titans.

Even if Young's arm is adequate for the NFL that doesn't mean he'll be able to read defenses. He also said in an interview that most of his running plays were called passing plays that he improvised.

Plus Skip Bayless called Young a hall of famer so if that's not proof he's going to fail I dunno what is.

Hey, Vince, what is 2+2?

Vince: Um.. Ba-na-na. Ooohh aaaahh aahh aaaaahh oohhh

Hey Vince, what was the score to the Rose Bowl and how many total yards did you have?

41-38. 467.

Pretty bad move by him to take the test lightly, though.

Yeah I am not doubting his ability at all. He is spectacular. I am seriously doubting how well he does in the NFL though. Reggie is gonna own people.

Tim Biakabutuka had 313 yards rushing againest Ohio State in 1995.

Cool.

Freddie Roach signed with the Pats today. SOB put me on my ass quite a few times when he was a senior in high school. :(

He also was getting like 8 ypc in the NFL but got hurt every other game. Had he been able to stay healthy, he would have put up HOF numbers. It got too much so he was cut and never had a chance. Though he was getting old by the time the Panthers finally gave up on him. Still... One game he had like 13 ypc. Total monster.

As per Maroney... the guy the Colts were salivating over. Pats got him, now RP is saying he's going to be a bust. :lol: That's pretty sweet right thurr. Maybe he will be a bust. I don't think he's as good as advertised, and I'm a MN guy. He was a system HB who just happened to have more speed than Tapeh or Barber. That means after that initial burst, he could stretch the play for an extra 10. Also, he was playing with the Gophers line in its prime. I don't think MN will see a line as good as it was last year. And Mason said that Maroney's problem was he was looking for the home run. If you look up-field and don't concentrate on making the most of your run, you won't succeed in the NFL.

But LOL@me not seeing this thread.

Yeah I guess that's true. When Biakabutuka started 11 games he gained around 700 yards. Still though, just becuase a dude has big games in college doesn't mean he will turn out to be a success in the NFL. I'm just not sold on Young because many people didn't feel he was going to be a good NFL pro until post-Rose Bowl, kinda funny how one game can change a guys NFL prospects.

Regardless of his college stats or his athletic ability, the only reason I think Young will be a bust because he won't be able to read NFL defenses and if you can't do that then you'll never be a good QB.

The reason the Miz and I started on this when we did last December is because outside of this board I have never heard anybody imply that Vince was more of a prospect at a different position than QB. I am in a Big 12 school and have seen Vince play this year, and the idea that he would be drafted as a WR didn't even exist. I'm not saying that he will be a great quarterback, I am just saying that I've never heard people so adamant that he can't play QB outside of this board.

I might've said somewhere along the way that Vince will never pan out as an NFL QB, because I sure have held that opinion ever since he really took off. I frequent some college football boards quite often, so I might be confusing here with those places.

Leinhart rockin #7 for anybody that is curious. Saw his jersey on Eastbay

He's gonna be a gunner and special teamer but he looks like he'll be pretty good at it.

My user CP says supreme has the last post in here, but whenever I click the link it's Steamer's as the last. wtf.

Oh right. My browser wouldn't register the last page. :(

Mine did it too :(

Yeah you know why that is happening to you guys? Patriots > your favorite team

Yeah mine was being weird too. Brad Smith.

It must be true then.

(that it's because the Pats are better than our favorite teams)

Lawrence Maroney and Corey Dillon

vs

Joseph Addai and Dominic Rhodes

:love:

Addai is underrated.

Can't put a lot of faith in rookie running backs

Always good to have a veteran backup to ease the rookie in. Especially if he's not a big back. Dominic Rhodes should do nicely.