Both are huge names in their respective company, and are pretty damn popular in both the Japanese and American wrestling scene.

Essentially, NOAH and DG management would probably never decide on who would win.

You MIGHT see it if there were other matches before or after it, either a rematch between the two, or other matches on the same card, ala Marufuji Vs Dragon Kid, or something of that sort. However, the fact that NOAH and Dragongate don't really work together much as it is, the chances of this match happening are really slim.

Exactly why we need a new super J-cup.

Last one was beyond horrible.

They had KENTA, Lyger, CIMA, Heat, delfin, Taka, Jinsei, and billy ken kid on the show, but none of them were in the tournament. Instead you had a bunch of sub-par up and comers, and Marufuji.

The logic is mind-boggling.

I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?

Either would be great, I just prefer Doi a bit more.

Plus, I mark for the bakatare sliding kick ;)

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Heh, I get the feeling that someone would really enjoy that match.

FYI Kev

Dragon's Gate announced today in Japan that they would be sending CIMA, Masaaki Mochizuki, Susumu Yokosuka, Dragon Kid, Ryo Saito, Genki Horiguchi, and Shingo Takagi to the Ring of Honor events in Detroit, Michigan on 3/30 and 3/31 during Wrestlemania 23 weekend.

Dragon's Gate sent many of the same talents to last year's ROH events in Chicago the weekend of Wrestlemania 22. That led to one of the best matches of 2006, a six man tag featuring Blood Generation of CIMA & Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino vs. Do Fixer of Ryo Saito & Genki Horiguchi & Dragon Kid during ROH's "Supercard of Honor" event.

No Yoshino :n:

btw I would love to go to the Mania doubleshot, but I'm thinking I'm gonna be wayyyyyyy to busy that weekend :(

I just heard, fucking badass, and i'm going to be at both rows in the 2nd row. Slickness. I'm so fucking glad I opted for better seats to this and said fuck WM.

Do it Blitz, it will be amazing.

Why do I keep thinking Yoshino retired?

the Ring Of Honor matches off of video.google are incredible...last night i saw Low-Ki vs. Kenta and it was wild.just a ridiculously good match. I'd appreciate any matches that could be found being posted here.

Believe me Kev, I'd love to go. But I just flat out won't have the time.

You're going to regret it.

I know. But it's gonna be crazy round here that week.

He didn't. You're thinking of Doi, who hurt his eye, and "faked" his retirement.

I knew it was one of them

Homicide over Joe after 4 lariats

* After Homicide over Hero via Cop Killer

And various other matches. Briscoes beat Aries/Strong 2-0, looks like that run is over, finally

Time for ROH to Man Up

On the subject of TNA making Joe leave ROH, I'm not sure if I disagree with this dicesion. TNA has always had a good working relationship with ROH, so for them to pull Joe out they must have some big plans for him in the future. And pulling a wrestler that you have big plans for, from his indy work, so there is less chance of getting overworked or injured, is a smart move.

Now if they are doing it for any other reason, then fuck TNA.

I'd bet they went up to him and basically said (not in so many words) "You need to choose ROH or TNA" (as they did with Punk I believe). TNA would have been hit pretty hard if he chose ROH.

Briscoes are going to win those titles on 2/24. And if they don't I'm going to be PISSED. Okay, not pissed, but it's about time that they finally manned up and got the straps.

I heard a rumor that NOAH begged TNA to steal Joe from ROH because Misawa was afraid that Joe was going to kill and eat him.

UK cards have been almost finalised

Saturday 3rd March

ROH World Title Match
Homicide (champion) vs. Davey Richards

Samoa Joe Vs Nigel McGuinness

2 out of 3 Falls
Delirious vs. Matt Sydal (ROH World Tag Team Champion)

FIP Heavyweight Title
Roderick Strong (champion) vs. The UK’s very own PAC

ROH vs. Dragon Gate Challenge
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Naruki Doi & Shingo

Tag Team Grudge Match
Colt Cabana & BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Jimmy Rave

SHIMMER Special Attraction Match
Sara Del Rey vs. Allison Danger
………………………………………………………………………………………….

Sunday 4th March

Samoa Joe's final ROH match

Fight Without Honor
Nigel McGuinness vs. Jimmy Rave

Falls Count Anywhere
BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs

Battle Of The High-Flyers
Matt Sydal vs. PAC

Special Attraction Match
Colt Cabana vs. Delirious

Plus more to be signed after the events of 3/3 with Homicide, Jay & Mark Briscoe, Naruji Doi, Shingo, FIP Heavyweight Champion Roderick Strong, Davey Richards, Allison Danger, Sara Del Rey and others

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Is it wrong that I'm mostly hyped for the Briscoes vs Shingo/Doi match and seeing Sara Del Ray? :o

I may have missed something here, but shouldn't Doi and Shingo not really like each other, since there stables have been feuding over in Dragon Gate (Muscle Outlawz and Blood Generation)

Oh, and being hyped for Doi is never wrong.

Yeah as far as 'm aware they're not exactly pals :$

They've got more booked for the UK shows than for the Chicago show. This peeves me, although the three matches booked so far are looking phenomenal.

ROH vs. Pro Wrestling NOAH
Samoa Joe and Homicide vs. Takeshi Morishima and Nigel McGuinness

World Tag Team Title Match
Christopher Daniels and Matt Sydal vs. The Briscoes

Windy City Death Match
Colt Cabana vs. Jimmy Jacobs

ROH World Title Match
Homicide (champion) vs. Davey Richards

:drool:

Only cause it's Davey Richards.

Hey, you get to see a title change

Samoa Joe's last official US ROH match and a title change (hopefully). I guess that I can't really argue with that.

Article off rohwrestling.com





Seven Dragon Gate Stars Coming To Detroit
Wednesday, February 07, 2007

Ring Of Honor and Dragon Gate are thrilled to announce that seven Dragon Gate stars have been signed to compete on ROH's double shot in Detroit on March 30th & 31st. Last year Dragon Gate brought six top talents to ROH for the triple shot during The Milestone Series. The result was several excellent bouts including The Wrestling Observer match of the year. Tickets are now on sale for both 3/30 & 31 at www.ROHwrestling.com or by calling 215-781-2500.

Complete match details will be released after the Fifth Year Festival. You can expect one night to feature several ROH vs. Dragon Gate matches. ROH officials are hoping to put together a six man tag that can rival the match of the year from "Supercard Of Honor" for the other night. These plans are subject to change. One thing you are guaranteed is that these exceptional athletes will be put in the best matches possible to give you the most bang for your buck. The official list that is signed for 3/30 & 31 in Detroit include:

-CIMA
-Naruki Doi
-Ryo Saito
-Dragon Kid
-Shingo
-Masaaki Mochizuki
-Susumu Yokosuka

This will mark the ROH debuts of Mochizuki and Yokosuka. CIMA, Doi, Saito and Dragon Kid were all part of last year's huge shows. When you add other Dragon Gate veterans like Matt Sydal, Jack Evans, Roderick Strong, Austin Aries and Jimmy Rave to the mix the match possibilities are endless. It is also possible that the Dragon Gate stars will be placed in first time ever dream matches against other regulars on the ROH roster.

The addition of these seven unique talents insure that both the Detroit events will be well rounded, can't miss shows. Keep checking ROHwrestling.com for more big announcements for this weekend.

Sacrificing Genki for Doi....

I love Genki :(
I love Doi more :)

I could be happier, but all in all, I am happy.

I do not love Genki.

How can you not love Genki? He's a good wrestler, plays his part great, and his gimmick is that he uses the power of his balding head.

Having a "funny" gimmick will not win me over. I am not Japaneese.

Also I hate chocolate.

The legendary Bruno Sammartino has agreed to appear on ROH's event in Detroit on March 30th. Sammartino will make an appearance on the show. The best part is that the beloved former WWWF Champion will be available for autographs. This is your chance to meet Bruno Sammartino!!! Tickets are now on sale at www.ROHwrestling.com or by calling 215-781-2500.

Sammartino was very impressed with ROH's live product and fans. This true hall of famer feels that ROH is the future of pro wrestling and wants to lend his credibility to ROH on March 30th. Tens of thousands of wrestling and sports entertainment fans will be coming to Detroit from all over the world that weekend. Now they will get a chance to meet Bruno, get his autograph and witness a night of pro wrestling at its best.

This will be Sammartino's second ROH appearance. He was at the 9/16/06 "Glory By Honor V: Night 2" event that won show of the year in The Wrestling Observer Newswletter. Please note that Bruno will only be at the March 30th event when ROH presents the big doubleshot in Detroit.

March 30th is sure to be a special night with the legendary Bruno Sammartino. Tickets are selling fast so get yours now!!!

Gonna get my picture with Bruno.. WHOO!

Sadly, you won't see Joe

Ring of Honor Presents: Home of the Rave
February 16, 2007

Bell Time: 8:15

- ROH announces that tickets for tonight's event have sold out.

1) Takeshi Morishima defeats Pelle Primaeu. Pelle came out to begin the show, issuing an open challenge. Samoa Joe's music hit, but Morishima came out. Morishima destroyed Pelle in seconds, getting the victory. Nigel McGuinness then comes out to calm Morishima down.

2) Delirious defeats Adam Pearce. Pearce had a foreign object, went to hit Delirious with it, but hit Shane instead. In the confusion, Delirious picked up the object, and put it in his mask. He then hit a headbutt on Pearce, knocking Pearce out.

3) Sara Del Ray & Allison Danger defeat Alexa Fisher & Daizee Haze. Del Ray pinned Fisher after a double underhook suplex.

4) Four Way Fray: Xavier vs Jack Evans vs Jimmy Jacobs vs SHINGO
- Jack Evans eliminated Xavier after reverse hurricanrana.
- SHINGO eliminates Jimmy Jacobs
- Jack Evans pins SHINGO after a 630 splash from the top turnbuckle.

- Samoa Joe came to the ring to thank the New York ROH fans. He called out Morishima, but Nigel came out instead. Nigel and Joe exchange words, then brawl. Refs and students break it up.

5) Tables Match: B.J. Whitmer defeats Brent Albright. BJ Whitmer took a Razor's Edge through two doublestacked tables...and kicked out! Match is still going, said to be brutal and intense. BJ Whitmer wins the match after an exploder from the top turnbuckle through two tables.

- So far, ROHPhilly has said "great match" after both the Four Way and the Tables match.

6) ROH World Tag Team Championship Match: Matt Sydal & Christopher Daniels defeat Austin Aries & Roderick Strong. Roderick has a widely visable black eye, stemming from his PWG action last weekend. Midway through the match, Austin Aries suffers an ankle injury. Aries apparently went for a top rope springboard, missed the rope and landed badly. He can barely stand. Sydal hits the Shooting Star Press on Aries, following by Daniels hitting the Best Moonsault Ever.

- After the match, Roderick Strong attacks Austin Aries, hitting a backbreaker. Davey Richards comes to the ring. Davey and Roderick are now a team known as the No Remorse Core. Jack Evans made the save for Aries, who was hurting badly.

- Well, so much for the dominating Briscoes theory...

7) Nigel McGuinness & Colt Cabana defeat Jay & Mark Briscoe. Nigel pinned Jay after a lariat.

8) Samoa Joe defeats Takeshi Morishima. Joe choked Takeshi out. Morishima was locked in the choke, and his arm dropped three times for the defeat.

9) ROH World Championship: Homicide defeats Jimmy Rave. Homicide won via pinfall after a copkilla.

WTF Morishima won the title?!?!

Yeah, that's what I said. I'm not too sure about it either, but we'll see how it plays out. I bet Nigel will beat him for in England.

Wow, really think this is a bad move. Homicide shoulda had a long run.

We'll see how it plays out. The NOAH ROH deal must be very strong and trusting. I think Morishima could be a great champ really. He comes off as more of a thread than Homicide (no DQ style battles not counted)(

where's danielson been?

HE's taking time off to heal his shoulder.

Pretty sure Mori is wrestling for NOAH on the Liverpool weekend, so no Nigel switch there. Dunno, unpredictability can be good, ROH has started to veer towards formulaic stuff in some ways so it's good to shake things up. ESPECIALLY if all this faction stuff means the return of Alex Shelley.

Oh, and the possibility of a Generico/Steen vs Briscoes feud makes me giddy.

I like Morishima as champ. We'll have to see how it plays out, but I'm definitely not bothered by it.

Wow, certainly didn't see that coming.

The UK shows sound great, I really must get my tickets for that.

you should always follow a long title reign with a short one...

WHOA

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

FUCK HOMICIDE

I wonder if this is possibly connected to the rumors of TNA forcing their talent to pick between them and working indies.

This has more to do with the fact Cide isn't a world champion.

And he sucks.

Morishima as World Champ

Roderick turning on Aries, No Remorse Corps with Davey

Aries and Evans making their own factions

Joe's farewell tour

Delirious

ROH getting even more interesting right now

I'm trying to figure out who Aries and Evans will get....

and No Remorse Corps... I'm assuming Albright will end up with NRC as a hired gun. Or Romero

Aries will probably take Matt Cross. (M-Dog 20)

Aries and Delirious should join up, after Roderick beat down Delirious last night

Aries should join up with Akiyama and form TEAM STERN FACIAL HAIR

Oh and it's all but confirmed Morishima will defend against KENTA on 3/4 at the Budokan (unless he jobs to Whitmer :| ) and then won't be seen again until after Wrestlemania weekend. Which leads me to believe Nigel will be the one to beat him, since it would take a mammoth booking job to get any of the smaller guys in a position to be able to realistically beat him, plus there's an easy angle with Nigel getting angry with Mori for not respecting ROH/the title and for making him look bad when he was standing up for NOAH.

Yeah I see Nigel as the guy.....or perhaps Mori holds it until we hear the Final Countdown again

But does Dragon come back as heel or face?

Maybe tweener prick Dragon, like he was during the CZW feud (until the Cage of Death)

There're a lot of guys who could take the title. Nigel, Aries, Colt, Cide again, Dragon, Davey.

As long as it's not Jimmy Rave

I'm definitely looking for Nigel to take the title from Morishima, but wouldn't be too bothered by any of those listed above. Except Davey. DO NOT want the belt on him.

Gabe seems high on him, even though he is a poor man's Low Ki

I can't see anyone but Nigel or maybe Dragon beating Mori. He's just too huge.

Aries did beat Joe...

I want Whitmer to beat him.....

Only so Jimmy fucking Jacobs and beat him on WM weekend and become the greatest champion in wrestling ever.

True, but that was a totally different situation. That would also mean Aries would be the 1st 2-time champion, which is something I think Gabe is REALLY holding off on for as long as possible.

Morishima made Homicide his bitch. Seeing him live was amazing. He is a big, big boy.

The factions should be interesting but the NRC needs someone who can work the mic. Jack Evans has charisma but it seemed like everything he said Saturday night was scripted. It was like a bad episode of Saved by the Bell.

Also, Steen/Generico v. the Briscoes absolutely stole the show. It was one of the best tag team matches I've ever seen.

I'm going to see Samoa Joe in his final US match as an ROH regular tonight, and the whole thing is just surreal to me. I didn't start watching ROH until about a year ago. Shit, I hadn't watched wrestling in a few years until about a year ago. Then I got bored, started checking this site out again, and saw a few people talking about this place called Ring of Honor. I'd heard hype elsewhere as well, so I figured it would be worth illegally downloading a few matches to see what it was all about.

The first match that I downloaded was Joe vs. Punk II, because these were the guys I was most interested in after reading about them, and this was the match that was getting all of the hype. Plus, it was in Chicago and that's where I'm from. I was fucking blown away. I've been to every ROH in Chi-Town since last June, and don't plan on stopping any time soon.

My point is this: Joe was a major factor in me getting back into professional wrestling. I thought that I'd grown beyond it (and sometimes still feel that way watching WWE), but ROH, and more specifically Joe and Punk, got me back into it. ROH owes a lot to both of those guys (as well as many others), and I'm glad that Chicago got to say goodbye to both of them.

Hopefully we'll see Joe back in Ring of Honor some day, but for now I understand why he's got to go do his thing. I'm just happy that I got to see the man in some sick matches before he left.

Looks like somebody called that tag title switch, hmm?

Results anyone?

Drake FUCKING Younger was also on the card :D

edit:nevermind :(

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Rest of the ROH tag division




TIME TO MAN UP

Copy/paste from the ROH board

1) Matt Cross/M-Dogg 20 wins 4CS with Shooting Star LegDrop, Aries came out to recruit him, it apparently turned into Aries/Cross v ??, NRC ran in, and then Delirious chased off Roderick Strong

2) Sara Del Ray/Alison Danger over MsChif and Serena

3) Albright defeated Claudio with help from Sweeney

4) Rave beat Whitmer with a cradle with his feet on the ropes. I was told this was bad

5) Jay and Mark Briscoe over Matt Sydal and Christopher Daniels after Daniels eats a cutthroat Burning Hammer, Sydal takes one of his own, a Jay toprope legdrop, and a Mark shooting star press to win the ROH World Tag Team Titles.

6) Austin Aries and Matt Cross over Davey Richards and Roderick Strong via Aries 450, Cross f-d himself up on an Asai moonsault onto the barrier. NRC attack after, Cross gets Tiger Drivered on the rail. Rematch next Chicago show Saturday April 28th.

7) Colt Cabana over Jimmy Jacobs after Colt 45ing Lacey and Jimmy. Lots of blood. Jimmy hits splash from top of in-ring ladder to Colt on a table on the floor. Whitmer and Albright also involved.

8) Takeshi Morishima and Nigel McGuinness over Samoa Joe and Homicide when Nigel pinned Joe with a lariat

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I'd assume that means Joe gets his win back over Nigel next Saturday

Fucking amazing show. That's all I'll say.

Davey Richards is ruined now that he's Roderick Strong's bitch.

PS - No Remorse Corps is the gayest sounding shit I've ever heard.

Air Devils....nuff said

Well, if Roderick is ever going to improve behind the mic, he needs a chance to try. Ring of Honor is somewhere where he can do that. While I agree that he sucks behind the mic, he hasn't been heel in a long time, and that usually helps anybody grow more. I'm actually slightly intrigued by this No Remorse Corps. I definately can't wait for Hero to come back, and see who is in his stable. I would keep him and Claudio together for the time being, and bring in Quackenbush and Albright to round out the stable.

Also, it's time for Ring of Honor to MAN UP!

Quack as a heel? :-\

I don't see why not. All he would have to do is be with Hero & Sweeney and that's enough to be honest. He wouldn't even need to talk hardly any at all. I mean, he's with Hero & Sweeney.

That'd kind of be a waste though, as he is a very good talker. I dunno he just seems to have natural face charisma IMO

Joe's final opponent as a regular will be against.............................Homicide

Which is pretty fucking lame, if you ask me

Nah I like it. It makes the most sense given their history in ROH.

I mean it wasn't like we'd get Low Ki vs. Joe II.....dammit

Yes it does in that sense. But it's also a match that has been done to death, and I can't help but be anything but skeptical that it won't be a glorified exhibition.

Expect it to be everything that Colt Cabana vs CM Punk was.

A glorified exhibition, then

Yup. With everyone crying. They coulda did better.

This won't be the last time we see Joe in ROH

Cmon, would Gabe just have Mori lose to Joe the night before Mori won the title for nothing?

What if come August or September Mori is still undefeated, challenges anyone to come get him, out comes Joe, place erupts and Final Battle 2007 is set.

Go to rohvideos.com for the new video wire. It's got clips of Morishima, the Briscoes winning the tag titles, Cabana/Jacobs, and Joe's ring entrance from his final ROH match in the United States. Truly a touching moment. :'(

So how about them Chikara guys getting booked in April.