Fuck Seth.

Seth is cheap but beatable, he doesn't have the 'ol SNK syndrome i thought he would have

Everybody's playing but me.

Dunno if I'm gonna get this or killzone 2. Still havn't really touched VF 5 or Guilty Gear yet.

the name seth is so random I've beat the game with Sagat, El Feurte, Ryu, and Someone else I can't remember right now. It's a pretty amazing game, I've unlocked two achievments and can't wait to go home and play again.

But I'm also playing GTA4: LATD which is the best expansion pack ever.

Seth was named after a popular SF player.

I got my Limited Edition a day early. Been messing about on it. The GAME website listed a CD soundtrack among the extra stuff but it wasn't in the box. I called up a local GAME Store and they gave me a number for customer services. I called and stayed on hold for about 25 minutes before being spoken to. After a long chat, the guy on the other end of the phone went to ask the "buying department" or something about it and when he came back he said no one knew what was going on with it. They asked for my number and said they would call me back. They ended up calling Capcoms offices to ask about it. When I got called back, I was told Capcom originally intended to put in the CD soundtrack but later decided not to and never informed the stores online section. I don't know why they decided against it. In the end, I got a five pound voucher for my next online purchase as compensation and they edited the games page on the stores site and told me they would have to email ever single person that ordered the LE from them to tell them why they don't/wont have the CD. The last 5 minutes of the phone call was the guy apologizing, even though it wasn't his or the stores faults as far as I'm aware.

I was wondering where the name came from. I thought it was just a random, short, slightly mysterious name. Then I finished arcade mode and saw the name in the credits and figured that's where it came from.

The game is very awesome. Can't wait to unlock myself some new characters. I think we may see new characters as DLC. A few smaller characters appear in the background of certain characters opening anime scenes, so I can imagine we may see them as DLC eventually.

Online is smooth but trying to actually get a fight started took me a while. It kept saying I couldn't join for some reason. I'm guessing it was request only. I got stuck with a guy that spammed the Hadouken to hell. I managed to smack him about as Zangief for a while though and on the topic of Zangief, I find his opening weirdly comical for some reason and I love the new scoop slam he has.

My only "disappointment" is El Fuerte (I know the spelling is wrong but you know who I mean). I thought we would get a cool Lucha Libre character but instead we have some crazy luchadore with an obsession with chefs and frying pans. I'm all for a crazy character but I wasn't expecting it from El Fuerte and I don't think it works at all.

Right now, I'm going to go watch the anime movie that came in the LE. Hoping it'll be cool and interesting. Sorry the post is so long. I just had a lot to say for once.

'Gief could PUNISH a Ryu player.

I thrashed him as Zangief. If I can just pull off the moves that require me to move the control stick in a complete circle, I could be equal or perhaps better than I am with Ken. I keep jumping when I try to pull those moves off.

I don't know what it is but a lot of my timing and stuff goes out the window when I play online. Even more so when I know the opponent. I have no idea why because I'm fine in Local Multiplayer.

For the record, the process to unlock Akuma and Gouken is fucking retarded. That is all.

Taking my fightpads back because of money concerns will probably cripple my playing time. I always have that lingering feeling that I'm missing out because I don't have a stick.

I know...I know. That's what she said.

What is the process? I heard it was pretty bad.


So I've finished the story with Guile, Blanka, and Ken so far. Loving this. :love:

And me. Stupid fucking Microsoft taking forever.
www.shadowhaxor.net

They have the soundtrack along with 54674357345 others in the d/l section

If you put it on easiest/1 round, getting Akuma/Gouken is real simple. The only challenging part is Seth. Fucking prick. And I like how my moves don't register against him sometimes. A simple fireball even. And I KNOW it's not my thumbs.

Anyway, I'm about 10 characters away from unlocking him.

Haven't tried online yet. Wanna unlock Seth first.

Also, so far there isn't any stage music that "jumps out" at me. Nothing too memorable yet.

The main menu music would be badass if it weren't for the terrible terrible singing.

This is so dumb, but particularly hilarious to me. How to unlock everyone according to MyCheats:

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HARD KICK

lol, just finished this with Dan.

Still a shit tier character but ridiculously fun to use.

Only a few characters left to beat it with. Not looking forward to doing it with Fei Long. Always sucked as him.

Fei Long generally sucked. How they could put him in instead of Dee Jay or even several Alpha characters (GUY FFS), is a travesty.

Dans great, the amount of times we had Dan-Odd Tournaments on CvS2 was inasane :D

GTFO Fei Long is great and I will destroy you with him any day of the week.

Roxer is pretty nasty with fei long.

Also, I got this, along with like, 10 original xbox games that were 3 bucks each at blockbuster. Fucking mint.

I'm far from great, but I've played tons of pretty terrible people.

Finally picked this up today, but I gotta go on a quest to find a fight pad.

Wow, just had a series of matches with this guy who was about the same level as me. Mad fun. Traded wins, and in the final fight it was Me as Crimson Viper vs E.Honda. Traded wins the first two rounds, and the fights were very close. Final round is looking the same. We each have only a quarter of life left, and he makes the mistake of charging his Focus Attack too close to me. Ultra Combo Finish. Crimson Viper wins. Seriously marked out like a little girl at that one.

On a related note, Crimson Viper is awesome.

I beg to differ, Geif can Probably punish an inexperienced Ryu player.
take a look at Daigo Umehara he's the top SF4 player in japan. He mains Ryu btw

This game is mad frustrating. Threw my controller about 3 times.

It's so intense when you are properly matched with someone with similar skill.

When you're overmatched, no fun at all.

I guess Fignuts wasn't having any fun playing with me.

:heart:

lol it did kinda suck, but I left cause company came in.

I do suyck balls at this game tho. Only fighting game i've ever been halfway decent at was tekken.

Tekken Tag online :(

I've got Tekken 5: DRO, but I havn't played online yet. Been slowly relearning things, since it's been 3 years since I played the original T5.

I imagine I'll practice hard at this game, and get fairly good. And then Tekn 6 will come out, and I will play that a lot, and forget everything about SF IV. I can never just pick it up again and remember everything. Or even half of what I knew. Would be a tournament player in tekken, if I did.

I only have like 3 charecters left to beat this with. I beat Seth with Fei long Perfect first try

fuckin hell. Still can't unlock Gouken. Every match one perfect round and one ultra combo round and nothing. Already got Akuma and completled the game with him too .....

Yeah, took it back after 1 day. If I kept it, all my remotes would become broken by throwing them. :mad:

It has to be exactly 3 ultras, 2 perfects, 0 continues and nothing more.

You need to beat Arcade made with 2 perfects and 3 ultra finishes and you can't use a continue. Capcom was being real funny about this one.

Yeah I had to leave anyway

The mere fact that i have to go through this ridiculous hard challenge mode just to unlock colors is fucking retarded. Good one Capcom.

I'm enjoying the game. Dan is pretty funny in this. His win quotes and ending gave me a bit of chuckle. Though, fighting Seth as Dan was frustrating. Not because I got beat a lot but because, after I win one round, Seth starts repeatedly piledriving, shoryukening and warping no matter what I do. I won, eventually, so it's fine. I'm not looking forward to fighting him with someone I'm unfamiliar with. It'll be a massacre.

Online is great when you are matched with someone of equal skill. It's fun to fight, satisfying to win and it feels fair when I get beat. When someone beats me, they keep me around but as soon as I win a fight, I get kicked. I made my own lobby, got a challanger, beat him and he left.
I don't get it. I'm not being cheap, I'm not constantly spamming a move or throw, I mix it up. Surely, everyone I beat can't be that bad a loser.
I know it's not connection issues because it only happens when I win. There was one exception where me and some guy had a few fights, He won some, I won some but generally, I get kicked after winning.

I bet Capcom will eventually release a DLC that unlocks everything for us. I've seen other games do it. There is a list on Wikipedia that gives dates of costume DLC, if anyones interested. Is it likely we'll get new characters or stages as DLC?

Edit: I had a player vs CPU versus fight on the hardest setting, for the first time. I played as Ken (who else?) fighting Ryu on the volcanic rim. It was a lot more fun than easier settings. I won round one, CPU won round two. In the final round it gets extremely close. I get smacked with a hurricane kick (I forget the real name of it) and my health is down to the point you can't even see it anymore but the CPU is just as low. One more strike and someone wins. We start hopping about, dodging each others attacks until the CPU goes for Ryus Ultra Combo. I leap over it and win with a flying kick square to the face. It was pretty cool.

There's some word going around of a SF4 Dash (or champion edition) DLC that might include T.Hawk and Dee jay as playable characters. Ono stated that the two characters were half way completed but wound not be included unless there is enough demand for them from the fans. I say why the hell not.

The more the merrier. Though I dislike T.Hawk. I'm sure I saw an image of him before the game was released though. T.Hawk fighting Cammy on the snowy train station stage. I may have imagined it but I'm so sure I saw it, somewhere.

It doesn't. Just did it this morning without even trying and I did more of both. I read that you cannot lose a round, never mind not just continue.

My bro got it. Expect me on later today. This game is awesome, and so's Dan. Sakura is deadly now, and Abel is great. Seth can suck my balls.

Ken + No Knee Bashes = GAY

Yeah,I foresee myself getting pretty nasty with Abel in the future.

I'm pretty happy I took my pads back. None of my roommates want to play. Its pissing me off. Way more fun to humans obviously, but I'm not one to challenge people online for hours and hours.

People online with Abel are just throw spamming spazz's.

I'm really hoping that this Championship Edition DLC deals with some balance issues.

Then just do it for minutes and minutes

A good player will counter that easily tho. Throws sould not be the main focus of able. the main attacks should be the change of direction combos, and the Marsielles roll for zoning. The only throw they should be spammig is the Falling Sky as a combo finisher.

I've played a few throw-spamming abels, and kicked their ass. And I'm not even very good.

I'm seemingly alright, I just can't seem to counter that.

Also, I take back my hate for the 360 stock pad. Crazy as it sounds, I'm used to it enough to deal some decent attacks.

They've just really eased up the precision needed to pull off certain specials. Hell, I can do a super Spinning Piledriver on the stick and I used to struggle on an actual arcade.

Oh and Sakuras always been deadly. Low hitting super my ass...

I do, obviously. But I'd much rather play people I know. Makes things more competitive.

I don't give a fuck what color costumes Cammy has. Once I unlock her, I am going to have a field day pitting her against other females in the game (Chun-Li, Crimson Viper and Rose are the only ones I can think of...):drool: The only way Cammy could be any hotter is if someone out there drew a ;):naughty: pic of her...

Just block low.. She's got pretty good combos but they don't deal that much damage especially her ultra ( Cammy too) She doesn't seem too deadly to me..

Still doesn't compare to the SF pad (D-pad wise)

Oh no, I know what to do now, just facing her the first time on Alpha 2 and getting smashed with it when preparing to block high as normal.

Her full name is Cammy White. Although, I prefer her in her green colors - since you bring it up.

I bet the SF pad is awesome, but I have to adapt.

This is probably the most balanced a fighting game's been on its first version. I personally don't find any one overpowered. Then again, I haven't played with Gouken yet, and I can pretty much right off Seth as banned outright. He can sit by Algol in the 'piece of shit' table.

Seth isn't that cheap in a players hands.

Both Gouken and Akuma have really low health to make up for their general awesomeness and it works.

Is Seth's move properties altered when he becomes playable? Otherwise he'll remain banned. We can't have a high-priority jackass like him in anybody's hands - even if the player sucks with him.

Seth is barely in the top 10, tier-wise. It's when he's CPU controlled that he's cheap. Step the difficulty up to it's highest, and I'll bet everyone seems bannable.

Seth does not know what to do outside of sweep range. Crouch there and wait for him to spam that 'magic roundhouse', it could be punished with a sweep. This works on Medium and probably Hard. His throw beats everything, and he's just annoying from far away. Stay at the sweep range and he regresses into a slobbering AI fool. That is all.

The only person I had trouble beating seth with was Dan. Everyone else was firstor second try. I've found that playing a more aggresiv style with the shoto characters warrents great results(almost got a perfect with sakura) and playina more defensive, poking game works better with almost everyone else.

We ban characters based on their priorities and what can be done with them in the right hands. Many boss characters are made with gimmicks meant to be fought against as a meta-game for the single player. They are usually not made to be balanced or even make sense - they're boss characters. It's at their battle that the game goes from fighting-game to something far more classic in its sense of game progression (see Goro, Rugal, Khan, Abyss...).

In classic cases that boss character returns in a sequel fully playable and balanced for the public. Nowadays bosses are created with playability in mind from the start, but they still don't fit the core characters meant to be options in the actual fighting game. Seth is the latest in this trend.

He's playable, but his priorities break the game. We're only keeping the play space clear and competitive. If needed, we may have to cuff Gouken as well, but some play time is needed.

That's pretty much the case, he's not the same in versus but can still be a jackass

I don't think there would be any need to cuff Gouken since there's plenty of holes in his overall game. He seems pretty mild.

played roxer again, after a day of training with Abel and C.Viper. Still lost, but did a lot better, keeping it close til the end of the match. I may end up maining one of those two, as I'm kind of bored with the shoto characters outside of Gouken, and I suck with Charge move characters.

One of my biggest problems right now is nailing ultra combos with te 360 controller. Would have possibly won a match with Crimson Viper, but she did the EX Seismic blast instead. I can hit it in training, and against a low level CPU all day, but in the heat of competition with a human player, I almost alwsays hit the EX forward, down-forward move instead. Not only do I not hit the ultra, but I waste a super gauge box. Suckage.

Is it any smoother with the arcade stick?

They need to fix the lobby so we can have more than 1 person in it

What if we form a party? Will that do anything? I dunno how the party syste works so dunno.

If I can say one thing bad about the game, it's that the animated cutscenes are godawful. There is very little closure in any of the endings.

And Gouken has just been lying unconcious somewhere for the past 10 years? lol what?


Abel's backstory turned out to be a fairly neat twist. I will say that.

God dammit I'm so tired of seeing Ken on XBox Live.

Should play with tpww people. We use everyone.

I don't want people on TPWW to know how much I suck at this game

Just treat online like practice for when you play locally. That's what I do. I basically treat my matches with roxer as evaluation on what strategies I've developed work, and which ones don't.

You get good playing real people, not AI. Real people throw you curve balls way more often than AI and it forces you to get better.

If you're talking to me, I was just bitching about people on XBox Live. :wtf:

But on the subject of AI, I would like to also state that I'm a little disappointed when Street Fighter has a final boss shades of SNK or--dare I say it--Mortal Kombat. By that, I mean I just got teleportspam/multihityuken/sonicboombsonicboombsonicboomed for about the thirtieth time, and finally decided to just turn the fucking system off and walk the fuck away. Good job making a generic piece of shit spam ass stupid shit piss dick balls fucking boss that makes me stop playing the goddamn game, Capcom, totally disregarding how hard it is to get through Arcade on anything but Easy with Vega. All that work didn't mean shit, I'm not fighting Seth a thirty first fucking time.

God fucking damn.

I perfectd Seth with Fei Long.

HOLLLAAAAAAAA

I'm gunna start saying that after I trounce fools

holla

Because holla is in right now, you know

Try my configuration:

Face Buttons:
(X) - Weak Punch
(Y) - Fierce Punch
(A) - Weak Kick
(B) - Roundhouse
Top Buttons:
[LB] - Mid Punch
[RB] - Mid Kick
Triggers:
{LT} - Focus Attack
{RT} - PPP

Now Khuntri may remember that my face buttons are SNK/Vs. fashioned and my Mids stay up top, but SF4 forced me to alter my triggers from the usual PPP/KKK set-up. With the importance of Ultras (life savers in many cases), I had to make a decision to make them more viable during gameplay. My PPP was on the left trigger (during the PS2 days), but I put it on the right trigger for 'instant-kill' access. This means I do my KKK ultras manually with all three kick buttons. RoXer can attest that this isn't a problem for me.

The big draw with my set-up is the left trigger being used for Focus Attacks. For a time I used the top buttons for Focus Attacks, but they're too important to rely on pressing the two top buttons together (not to mention Focus Cancels and such). Being that I no longer need a KKK button/trigger and I rather not conprimise my old face button set-up (I tried, much too used to it), I put Focus Attacks on left trigger.

The first time I fought RoXer he blew me out. We went at it a little while later with me on the above config and my game changed dramatically. Much more give and take now.

Yeah, offline is the way to go. Still, RoXer is good games. And I love that SF4's yellow bars might as well be green bars - very smooth. It lags but so often I wanna kill myself. I imagine a green bar is HD Remix perfect.

Good for you. Did it with Sakura m'self. I'm playing her more than I care to admit, but I won't be adding her to my stable (Cammy would get jealous). RoXer pulled out some Gouken action, he's definitely not over-powered (unless RoXy is holding back).

I always liked "You should try blocking".

Yeah finally got friends to play last night and we didn't stop for like an hour or two. Way fun, and it pretty much confirmed the fact that I suck really really bad. I'm still trying to figure out my button configuration on the 360 controller. I am prone to never use the left bumper because of it being on the D-Pad's side. My brain can't give that many commands to my left hand it seems.

Oh, OK, I thought you meant in the white camo/suit outfit, but I understand you now. Just please tell me you knew this without having to watch one of those god-awful beginning/end-of-Challenge Mode cutscenes. They are unbearable, and I always just skip past them.

So anyone got any advice for a beginner player to this. Never been too good at fighting games and I do enjoy the gameplay of this... except I suck. I can pull off a few moves as Ryu/Ken but can only really scrape past the computer and when I come up against opponants like M Bison tend to fail repeatedly.

Practice mode is your friend honestly. Street Fighter is 20 years in the making so the people who are good have played with the base mechanics of the game for that long. Learn ranges, the supers/ultras/focus attacks. Figure out if anyone has any standard moves that combo well and fight what type of character you like. Sounds like you like Shoto's, Sakura and Ken are captain combo so give them both a try.

Yeah, my only real experience is Street Fighter 2 briefly on the Mega Drive and Alpha 2 on the PSOne and I was too young to really get past the whole button mashing thing.

I've only started playing it today so I guess it is understandable that I suck at it. I'll just have to keep trying it is justa bit jarring when even on the easiest computer difficulty I get my ass handed to me.

That's SF though. You have to learn to juggle and combo moves up. You also have to learn if you like grapplers or shotos or whatever. Plus like I said, the guys who (especially) are good with Ryu and Ken, have been good with Ryu and Ken for 20 years. It takes a lot of time to learn the frame ates of a lot of moves too.

Hell even things like priorities between characters are a bitch when you first start.

Also, and I stress this the most. If you can't hit a move every time you try it, you don't have it down and it's going to get you killed. I have friends who say they have the ultras, etc down. They can hit it 4/5 times, or whatever. That turns into 2/5 times when you're actually playing someone who is going to press you, and they will punish you when you miss. Don't try something unless you can do it everytime.

Aye I think I'll take that on board.

I was at least able to make it through the Arcade Mode on easiest and unlock Sakura so there is some progress. Seth was quite cheap until on the final battle I managed to just keep him in a corner and spam Heavy Kicks. I do like the Ken/Ryu/Sakura type characters but I'll have to experiment with the others on there.

I also tried hopping online and got my ass handed to me three times. Starting to get used to blocking a bit more though and also when to jump to avoid an attack. The one problem I have is timing my own attacks which'll come with practice. What I'll probably do is stick it in training mode and just keep practicing blocking/dodging.

Do you think I wouldn't know Cammy's full name before hand? Seriously?

Tremendous losing streak right now. :(

Same here, just lost like 9 in a row. Fair enough it's my first time online but I just can't even land an attack.

I'd be like, 0-30 if I didn't get lucky and find some chumps to beat on.

I really cant see this being that much fun online, its a game that DEMANDS fast reactions and quick button presses, most games are more forgiving of this but for something like SF i can't see it working that well. =/

Still waiting on the pc version, whores.

It's smoother than you think.

HOLLAAA

I got a perfect against Seth with Chun-Li of all people. Nothing against Chun-Li, I'm just a very average or less Chun-Li player. The sweeping technique really works.

Unlocked Gen after the perfect against Seth. I had a quick spin as him in a fight against a CPU opponent and he seems pretty good. I'll have to use him in training first before I get good enough with him to play against others.
Is his name pronounced as "Jen" or is the G prononced the same way it is prononced in the word "Gun" but with an e instead of a u?

It's a Japanese game, so it's probably like "gun"

I Just unlocked Akuma :) ultra combo finishes are amazing!

My bro (W1ckedBison) sent the friend request.

Goddammit everyones playing online but me... Fucking Comcast....FUCK (angry face)