Just watched.

Great episode.

What and she was brought back to life by the island or something?

I'm assuming that's how they'll (try and) explain Christian being alive anyway

I was thinking she wasn't quite dead yet. She still showed the injury (meaning she was still alive), so my thinking was that she had a vision of Christian and just came to the cabin to speak with him on an unrelated matter, or to give her a place to hide from the gunmen. But I guess vision Claire could have been dead and just injured still.

SO here are some thoughts I had about what I think will happen.

JAck and Sawyer gets to Hurley, while Locke goes into the building. The Mercs are taking ben back when the Others ambush them, save him, and reunite Kate/Said/Jack/Hurley/Sawyer. They flee while the others fight the mercs and get to the copter. Locke starts to move the island. Before they go Ben tells them they only have 5 minutes (from the clips of next show) and Jack decides they CANT go to the beach, they have to go to the boat. They get there, only to find that the bomb is going to blow because that guy has the detonator on his arm. They only have room for one more, and they take Sun/Aaron. They fly away, and the boat blows up, killing Desmond and Jin (or maybe they go back to the island....

AS they are flying away from the boat (cant go back to the island) they run low on fuel...They have to drop weight, and Sawyer sacrifices himself (You can see him saying good bye to Kate maybe in the clips) and they kiss, Kate makes a promise to him, and he jumps from the chopper.

They are about to run out of fuel, when Frank decides to get low to the water, and throw a life raft out, he lets the Oceanic 6 out, and as he tries to manuver the chopper away, crashes and dies.

A few days later the oceanic 6 come ashore...

I think that that works...

Everyone feels guilty about leaving them behind....Which leads Jack eventually to drugs and trying to get back to the island.

The thing I cannot wait to see, is How Ben Gets off the island, and what happens before he leaves.

I dont see any way to get Jin and Desmond off the boat, because I accept Jin is dead, because Sun blames her dad for his death, I doubt she would say that if he was alive on the island.

That would be a great way for Jin to go...stays behind to let the others live. This sets up the Sun empowerment.

But Desmond has so much story left, I PRAY he doesnt die, but what else is there? Same with Michael.

I dont see Sawyer just letting everyone else go, I do think my idea would be cool. But he is such a major player I dont know if he can die.

But this is lost, they dont mind killing people off that have loose ends (rousseu)

I can't imagine any of that happening.

You mean in 2 weeks.

I believe so :mad:

No way Jin and Desmond die. Desmond is a central character in the whole story now and you can tell in flash forwards from the way Sun talks and acts that Jin didn't die.

I'm starting to hate this show now anyway. Far too much sci-fi bullshit.

Exactly. I could handle what was in season 1 with the giant monster, seeing dead people, fixing Locke's legs. But this is getting a little out of hand.

I'm not sure where but somewhere it crossed the line and now I'm not as interested as I was.

The time traveling, the island being 2 or so hours ahead of the boat, dead guys coming back to life, etc, etc. All fucking nonsense.

lol

STFU. What does she do to do that?

She visits his fucking grave and says she misses him.

She blames her dad for his death.

Yeah, you can tell by that there is no chance he dies.

I am willing to bet he is not the only Mid level character to die.

Ermm.... hesitation at the press conference. The fact his tombstone says he died the day the flight crashed.

£20 says he is alive by the end of the series.

Why wouldnt they say the day of the crash on the tombstone?

She says at the press conference that he didnt make it off the plane.

SO when they make the tombstone, you think she would ask for one 100 days later?

I dont even know how much that is, but ill take the bet.

If he was legit dead, why would she want the wrong date on his stone?

£20 is roughly $40. Can make it whatever you want though.

My point exactly. If he was really dead, just put the real date on it.

Too many stories out there to kill Claire off now.

claire is probably already dead

I don't think Claire is dead. At least I hope not she is one of my favorite characters.

:love:

The music in Lost is brilliant.

Really enjoyed it this episode.

Locke in the coffin. What I figured.

Good stuff. Should be interesting how this plays out.

can someone get me a place to watch it streaming on the internet when they find it?

Wow, really have no idea what to expect for next season.

i like what's happening here.

Love it.. Sayid is such a badass.

The way Lost was going I was SO expecting Desmond to get axed in the back right before or during his dramatic embrace with Penny. Glad that didn't happen though.

So I guess next season will be all about Jack convincing the rest of them to go back to the island. The whole island moving thing was awesome. I love Ben. Also hope Keamy comes back somehow next season, if only in a flashback. So badass :(

Also, I would bet money that Jin is not dead.

I'm guessing they'll go back and forth from the 6 just getting off the island to getting back to it. But who the fuck knows, I've decided to stop guessing things in this show.

SO glad they didn't kill off Desmond. I would have stopped watching. Dealbreaker right there. But yeah, real glad with him meeting Penny.

Why didn't Jin just jump off the boat? Also, what was Sun's motivation for helping Widmore? Or is that something we find out 3 seasons from now? Like the giant foot.

Crowbar? Time travel? Are we sure Ben isn't Gordon Freeman?

She probably has interest in getting back to the island as well. That's what I figured at least.. she wants to go back, and thinks he may be able to help her.

fucking sawyer. what a bad ass.

Love how the camera panned to Hurley and he was all "Uhh..." to himself when they were talking about extra weight. lol

I actually thought Faraday would be a big part of the series, but he just kind of was left in the middle of nowhere. I hope he comes back.

WTF with Charlotte coming back? Wonder whats up with that.

Miles is growing on me. He knows alot, and I think he will be a big part of what happens on the island,.

They said bad things happened after the 6 left, I hope we see it all!

I think Next season should be What is happening on the island after the move, adn flash forwards to Jack trying to get everyone back.

Season 6 should then be what happens when they get back and wrap up the show.

awesome last night. yea, I thought Desmond was going to slip when he was climbing on to Penny's boat and fall right into the ocean. lol

They're all up at abc.com.

Yeah, I was very worried about Desmond, glad to see he is ok.

I was hoping Desmond was gonna drown...

As for Locke.....I really dont think he is dead when you see him in the coffin. Perhaps a kind of twist where he drank something that put him to sleep and made it appear he was dead (aka Romeo and Juliet) in order to throw the other people off. Or perhaps when they bring his body back to the island it ends up bringing him back to life.

I agree with yall that Jin isnt dead.

Yeah, Jin still alive. And don't believe for a second Locke is as dead as he seems. Something too it, plus with time shift stuff being a possibility shit could get crazy.

Hold on a second...

Jack read the obituary for Jeremy Bentham on the plane BEFORE it crashed? What the fuck?

Locke won an Emmy. He's coming back.

These are the alternate endings for the season finale of Lost:

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I'm guessing those were filmed to throw people off from spoiling it.

Why would you guess that, what other reason could they have for that. This isn't a pick your own adventure book you know...

Am I the only one that thought that nothing bad was going to happen to Desmond at all? It seemed like this was the one shot Lost had to fit in a truly happy ending for someone.

Keep in mind this season was 3-4 episodes short. They were going to work in the new guys' personal flashbacks but couldn't with the writer's strike. Pretty sure we'll be seeing plenty from them next season.

Shaggy - the fake death while in the US is as bit far fetched, but returning him to the island and him not being dead sounds a lot more like what we might see. Even if he doesnt flat out come back to life, there'll be dreams, visions, there's also a 'little boy from 6th sense wannabe' on the island.

Rob - what?

A few other notes:

Seeing Walt up close and personal and how much he's grown is kind've weird, but at least with what they did storyline wise, they didn't have to do something like recast him. I was hoping his conversation with Hurley would amount to a bit more interesting or weird outcomes, him being so apparently special on the island, but not much coming from it.

Hurley playing chess with invisible ghost Eko made me smirk. Kind've wish when he said "checkmate, mr. eko" they actually had the actor make a small cameo or something, sitting in the chair.

Thank god they went with locke and not desmond, I would have fucking rioted.

Of course Locke will be back. He is "Dead" in 3 years...We have to see what all happens on the Island, how he gets off, what he says to the 6, and how he dies. He will be around until the very last episode.

Nope. I thought he'd be cool too. Main storyline revolves around the Whitmore's and Desmond's part in that storyline was untapped. Of course he is gonna be on a head to head with Ben later when Ben is coming back to kill Penny.

Just what I said. Apparently the obituary was not only the torn piece of paper he had but it was also on the paper he was reading on the plane from Sydney when it crashed on the island.

Wasn't that his father's obit?

Just watched. In the words of The Scooter, HOLY COW!

Pretty awesome episode. Here's my take on it.

Thank god Desmond didn't die, probably would have gone crazy. Wonder where he and Penny run off to in the next season since Ben is out for revenge.

Loved that last second with Michael. Wondering when the time was.

Faraday, Charlotte, and Miles are gonna be interesting to watch. Miles' chat with Charlotte got me wondering.

The only two things I wonder are how the hell did Locke get his ass back to the states. And how did Ben warp to the desert.

Well done Abrams and company.

I don't remember him having a paper. I remember him drinking, hitting on the flight attendant, and comforting Rose.

Haha, when they panned around the camera to the coffin I was saying "Who is it? Is it Faraday? Is it Daniel? Is it Desmond? Don't be Desmond PLEASE. It's Locke, gotta be Locke . I bet it's Locke. Yup it's Locke."

Interesting that I had those Ideas though.

I'd assume that Locke being back in the states was probably just a visit to the survivors. We know that the others can and do leave the Island occaisionally to carry out specific duties this was probably no different.

Ben warping to the desert was most likely a side effect of him moving the island. That must be what happens to the people who turn the "wooden donkey wheel" as people are calling it. They get warped to a random location in the world.

Ben didn't show up in the desert until October of 2005. That's nearly a year after they move the island. Unless Ben is stuck in space for nearly 10 months, this didn't happen as a result of him moving the island. That's not saying it couldn't be a side effect of it though.

Hmm I didn't realise that it was a year later when Ben wakes up. I'm probably going to say that he went forward in time as a result of it. That's based on that he looked exactly the same as he did when he turned the wheel and he had the same cut on his arm.

Also on a side note, no one happens to know where I can get the amazing orchestral track that played during at least part one of the finale. It was towards the end when Ben walked into the Orchid and gave himself up, Kate & Sayid were being led through the jungle by the others and Sun was running out onto the deck of the frighter.

You can't make sense of this time travel shit though. A guy floated onto the island dead before he was even killed.

yea him showing up later has to do with the time space thing that ben was talking about with the orchid

That was because island time surpassed real world time, in order to catch up with the original timeline.

Rob, have you sorted out the whole Jeremy Bentham thing?

So glad Desmond and Penny were reunited, I think everyone who watches the show worldwide woulda spazzed out completely and rioted if Desmond had been whacked.

As far as Locke in the coffin...hmm, given his comments to Hurley etc can we assume that Sayid knows atleast part of whats going on one way or the other?

agreed. I just hope Desmond isnt an afterthought next season. He is the most intriguing character to me.

I think Sayid does have some idea of what is going on.

I think Desmond will remain a part of things, he's far too central to the whole plot what with him being the one who brought the plane down, not to mention his Widmore connections and stuff. Also aside from Walt thus far I can't remember a central character leaving the the plot without being killed off, leaving Desmond out of the loop after the way he was introduced in seasons 3 and 4 would be pretty awful.

I actually like the way they reintroduced walt with hurley years later after he got back to accomodate for the actor aging in real life

Yeah, I mean I doubt Walt is out for good, but he's largely remained out of the story since he and Michael left on the boat at the start of season 3, it'd be a pretty huge loose end if they left his part in the story unresolved.

they wont im sure but they cant keep him on camera other than flash forewards

Walt is gonna turn up in the next season of Heroes, learning all about his powers.

Nope. Fuck Lost. I can't be fucked with this head tripping bullshit.

Well not until the next season starts.

Any else notice that Keamy's bomb detonator was a Korg guitar tuner lol

:lol:

Jack was off the island when he read the obit. It was a flashforwared. The first one. Where he drunkenly hopes to crash back onto the island.

Egh fuck it, nvm

I've watched season 1 and 2. I'm currently watching season 3. I just got finished with the parts where Sawyer fucked Freckles and they escaped the island and Hugo found a van and started it.

I love Desomnd. He's one of my favorites. Sawyer is awesome. I really like the complexity of Jack. The flash backs for Jack in seasons 1 and 2 were some amazing television tbh. I kept expecting his dad to be the one fucking his wife. I still expect some flashback involving his wife somehow. I also thought that ( mind you i'm still watching season 3) in the episode where jack's wife bails him out of jail after he beat his dad up, the boyfriend that was waiting by the car, looked like the guy that Anna Lucia through in the pit because she expected him to be one of The Others. Probably just seeing things, but it be a intresting tie in, to go along with all the other charachters being tied together in someway other then just being on the plane.

I was pissed that we never found out about Liz being in the psyche ward with Hugo. But i've speculated that at the end of this series, this all might be in Hugo's mind and in real life he's just so drugged up and hallucinating this shit. Which would make that episode where he almost killed himself, extremely pivitol, because it was basically hinting towards what this whole series is for. But, its highly unlikely and i think the makers of the show already said that wont be how it ends.

Love the show though. Started watching cause i read this thread. Not sure its better then 24, but its close.

Yeah it's less annoying to do it that way.

I did it that way too, watched season 1 on the telly but then lost touch with it all when it went to sky here and watched seasons 2 and 3 in the space of like 2 weeks earlier in the year before 4 started.

The Desmond/Farraday episode is one of my favourites of the whole series run

Is this the episode called " The Constant " ? The one were Desmond finally contacts Penny? I agree, I just finished watching to this episode and its byfar the best episode so far. I actually think my second favorite is when we learn Desmond travels through time and he runs into that old lady.

Desmond is my favorite charachter. I want him to be my best friend IRL and i want to give him hugs everyday.

Best episode so far, but wait for the shocker in episode 8, I nearly shit myself.

Sometimes i wanna punch Juliet in the face with all those stupid facial expressions she makes. But sometimes i wanna have sex with her.

Freckles is still my #1:heart:

I'm in love with Claire

Ok so just a question.
Do you lot think that the boat that Faraday was on moved with the island or that they just ended up stuck in the middle of nowhere.

And where were Rose and Bernard in all of this?

I'm pretty sure they'll have Farraday and co. be moved with the island

And Rose and Bernard are still on the island, just not featured a lot towards the end. The last thing of significance I remember either of them doing is Bernard knocking out Jack during his 'surgery'

(last bit is in black in case RP or anybody else hasn't seen it yet)

I thought all the survivors on the beach were either on the boat or on their way there.
Or did they stay because of her illness.

Rose stayed because of her illness

She'll be in for a rude awakening once things catch up with each other. :o

True.
Oh and just found out that the guy who plays Keemy is playing Blob in the Wolverine movie :)

Dan was only on lik ehis second run when the island "moved" wasn't he? He was taking 5-6 per journey. That means he only got 5/6 to the boat and had another 5/6 with him.

WTFMOTHERFUCK JIN IS NOT DEAD NO!!!!!!!! HE"S NOT! HE BETTER NOT BE OMG GTFO

I'm gunna cry

I just finished the last episode