I don't know. I still think that guys like Evan Bourne would be lost in a Cruiserweight Division if it returned. Before he was injured, Bourne was chasing the ECW Championship. It also looks like he could be one of the featured highlights of the Money in the Bank Ladder Match this year. I can't see that happening if he is Cruiserweight Champion, wrestling Jimmy Wang Yang on the pre-show of any other PPV.

What is the point of hyping? What good would it actually do?
 

Oh My God. Tell me he didn't actually say that.

That's like...Wrestling 101.

Yeah obviously, promotion is a big part of any business.

I like the shock value wrestling has at times. It was more prevalant during the Monday Night Wars though but I welcome stuff like the Christian return.

The Attitude Era could get away with it because people were watching expecting to be surprised. The MNW period, especially, because it was "Who could one up who."

That still doesn't change the fact that promoting Christian would have easily provided a benefit.

Everybody was shocked the he returned on ECW instead of Raw ;)

The same old gets boring fast and in the age of internet spoilers some of the best bits about wrestling has been lost. Let's face it, the first Nitro starting the war was based on shock value. You could say a lot of what we see today is based on shock value in one way or another, we tune in because we want to see the unexpected or at least a large part of the audience does.

They needed to do something with ECW because it wasn't really taken seriously to the point where a lot of posters were suggesting it isn't 'cannon'. It's being discussed a bit more now, maybe they can continue to build it up.

Easily could have. All I'm saying is that it's still nice to have an unannounced surprise every once in a while.

build it up was relating to ECW the brand

There's obviously a reason he is on ECW. To be honest, it could be something stupid like he is being 'punished' for the manner in which he left in some strange way.

Yeah if you don't learn something from a strong promo guy like Christian, there's something wrong.

Yeah, it could definitely be punishment. I never really thought of it that way until now. Good call.

What's the point of this thread? Of course wrestling is a business, and things need to be promoted. That's not to say that every single little thing needs a hype video, though.

The fact that Christian got such a lackluster pop and the lack of proper promotion from the commentators (it was dry at best) showed that, at least for ECW, Christian needed the build.

Now, if he had come in and screwed Swagger in a match, for example, it would have worked and had proper shock value, which is what they were going for and didn't get.

They botched his debut, plain and simple.

By the way, Noid, that was the dumbest thing you've ever said. I'm not even going for the gimmick thing here, that was an ignorant question.

A hype video is the least they could have done. There are plenty of other ways to hype someone's debut, even without mentioning them by name.

LOL yeah, but remember, even in wrestling, there are good surprises and bad ones. To borrow a line from George Carlin, "I'm pregnant, you're the father, and I'm going to kill all three of us!"

Remember, WWE's gone as far as to spoil the results of their own championship battle royal dealy to get people to watch. I mean, sometimes they spoil their results by mistake, but this was obviously not so. They thought saying "Angle wins" would get people watching, even though it not only would have been a surprise (barring the spoilers, becase Angle doesn't work on Thursdays), and still a good one.

Having someone appear out of the blue is a treat to regular fans, but if you want to expand, and that's another reason people have suggested they put Christian on ECW, you want to hype the shit out of big events. Ostensibly, they think Christian is hype worthy. QED.

Yeah, and Christian is definitely small time. :)

Josh U-Betcha says:
But we are both thinking like sane business men, not vengeful carines that hire enemies just to humiliate them.

Few things:

1) You need to promote and market. There is no way around that.

2) The WWE needs to find a way to market NEW stars...and give them an appropriate push. The WWE's biggest problem is that not a whole lot has changed since 2005. Most wrestlers are pretty much in the same position as they were a few years ago. Jeff Hardy seems to be the only guy that is on the verge of breaking out. Rey Mysterio's main-event push was a severe flop.

What about simply trying to add some star power to try and increase ratings? Let's face it, Christian is a big enough name that it might make a difference.

You guys are ridiculous. Honestly. Why can't you leave this in the fuckin other thread BDC? Your antics with KK and Noid are awful.

My primary contention in the other thread was that wrestling is a business, and that wasa one of the reasons behind this.

i.e. A ladder rematch between those 4 is a wiser move to put on a random ppv card during the summer, than on a wrestlemania card that performs strong anyways.

Because arguing with Noid is trolling, but bitching about you is okay. :roll:

No, but seriously, I'm not sure in this case you can remove Noid from the argument. I don't think anyone else would actually ask what benefit there is in promoting someone or something in wrestling.

I think I may have merged that in the wrong place, but what ever. 2 threads isn't nesscisary.

You don't need another thread to flame Noid. The 14 you have should do.

Yes it was and you know it.

If anyone else made that comment you would have just bitched at them in the one thread. You only made the second one to publicly hummiliate Noid. Simple as.

Maybe it will, maybe it will not. It's created a buzz among a large demographic of people who never watch ECW. I see no problem there.

I've contended that he NEEDS to win the ECW title in order to be a viable contender in the potential TLC match. Brother v. brother v. brother v. brother, champion, v. champion v. champion v. champion. Might as well throw him in there and get it out of the way now so he's built up enough in time for the summer. That's good business.

You can google "Christian ECW" and see that people are saying pretty much the same things we are saying here. It's speculative, but then so is saying flat out that it isn't going to help ECW one bit.

Maybe it's because TNA is just shitty in general and has a six-sided ring.

This is a good point. But why not have the REMATCH in the Summer instead? That is going to draw big too, especially after an amazing match at WrestleMania.

Not only that, but part of the point is that WrestleMania makes stars into superstars. That's the place to do it. A spectacular TLC match for the WWE Title at WrestleMania, between these four guys, the ones who started the craze back in 2000, would be historic. It would be in the books with the Iron Man Match, Austin vs. HBK, and Benoit/Eddie. And it would get Christian and Matt a huge push going into the new "season" for the WWE after Mania.

And there's nothing wrong with creating more top guys who can actually work and talk in the WWE.

Also this is the longest thread I have ever started.

I think we'll find out when the rating comes in for next week's ECW.

What is it that all of you were expecting them to do with Christian anyway? Save_us.222?

They didn't mention it on Smackdown, but there's still a PPV and a RAW before the next ECW airs.

BDC, are you saying that if the WWE had hyped Christian's return and still put him on ECW then things would be fine in your book?

The only problem i had with Christians return, was that he's going for a title that no one cares about anymore,this is why he should've returned on either Raw or Smackdown.

One thing to remember, perhaps, is that there's very little that will consistently improve TNA's ratings because as soon as even the most casual of wrestling fans watches one Impact show, they realise how frustratingly stupid the booking is and never watch again.

Yeah Chrisitan isn't going to help the popularity of ECW.

Nothing will.

I will be watching next week.

I dunno, the damage was done. I really hope they let Christian do his thing in ECW. I stilll hope Edge and Christian will have some interaction as dual world champs.

In all honesty I've lost a bit of confidence in the direction they went due to Christian not appearing at NWO. I expected a backstage appearance at the very least.

Mind you, Matt Hardy is involved in possibly the biggest angle in WWE at this moment in time and he wasn't on the show either.

It's the End of Smarxism!!!!

I like Christian but I think some people are giving him way too much credit in regards to his star power.

More than the WWE, anyways.

Christian is an amazing talent.

Christian will be good on ECW.