So how come you're right?


:p

Well, I'd say that having Bret job to Shawn in Montreal was a decision made out of spite in the first place, not a neccesary business decision. There were many other routes that could've been taken. Bret's refusal to comply probably could've been predicted by anybody with half a brain. Vince knew what he was doing and knew what he was getting into when he told Bret to job to Shawn in Canada. I mean, come on. Should Bret have refused to do it? Probably not. Does all the blame lay on Bret for Montreal? Probably not.

Let's not discuss this again. But if the WWE does Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart (obviously not in a proper wrestling match, but just some sort of gimmick bout to protect Bret), it really depends on where the money is. If the fans are behind Bret, HBK should probably lie down and give Hart his revenge. It also sets up Hart as a giant star whose merchandise is worth buying and such. If the fans stand by HBK, then it would make sense to give him the win, to keep his momentum going.

To be honest, I see the fans getting caught up in Hart's return, and I think that reaction is more than enough reason to give the fans the pay-off of Bret kicking HBK's ass. Even if it ends in HBK and Hart hugging, and then Michaels giving Hart the Sweet Chin Music and getting to walk out on top.

shawn will job . That is all.

I'm pretty sure Bret said he'd job the next night.

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2009/...php?style=dark

According to PWInsider.com, DirecTV has the following preview for the January 4, 2010 edition of WWE Raw:

"Shocking Guest Host Bret The Hitman Hart returns to confront Mr. McMahon."

A reminder that on January 4, WWE Raw and TNA Impact will go head-to-head.

I just checked my DirecTV channel guide, and it's true

kapoutland

why just vince? He should extract revenge on michaels as well

Shawn Michaels didn't say "ring the bell".

Shawn Michaels did make Bret Hart tap out to his own move though.

I hope he makes Vince wrestle a 2 Hour Iron Man Gauntlet Match vs the Entire RAW Roster.

This all would've never happened if Crime Time had gotten their Tag Team Title match.

i dont really care as much for the vince confrontation as i do about bret vs shawn. Who knows, bret and shawn have probably spoken already and decided to work together. Also bear in mind bret is not gonna be there for just one night, his deal runs through to wrestlemania. Also hbk will be taking time off after wrestlemania which is usually the reason a wrestler gets the shit beaten out of him ,kayfabe of course.

Because Michaels is a face now is the logical answer.

Just imagine: On January 4th, Bret Hart comes out to start the show and does a spiel about loving the fans and how great it is to be back, then gets down to business and calls out Shawn Michaels. They go face to face. Michaels takes the mic and says he’s grown as a person since 1997 and that his religion tells him he should seek forgiveness for what he’s done. Hart and Michaels shake hands. Hart turns to leave, and he turns around right into Sweet Chin Music.

From there, they go back and forth hating each other until WrestleMania. I’d have Hart unwilling to fight, citing his health and family and the need to move on with his life. Have Michaels keep baiting Hart in. Finally, Hart snaps and agrees to fight Michaels. Hart goes over at WrestleMania with the Sharpshooter and becomes General Manager of RAW. That would be pretty awesome, but I doubt it’ll happen.

that's not a feud that needs any booking mon ami, it really books itself. If they're going to do it, the both of them can figure it out themselves.

michaels as this DX face who jobs to cena vs michaels as the super hot heel against the beloved bret hart. I know which one i would rather watch. And

That would be the best way to do things, in my opinion. I'd perhaps put Hart over HBK with some help from The Hart Dynasty, though. Just because HBK is still able to wrestle, and Hart really isn't. Hart could take the fight to Michaels, no doubt, and he shouldn't be made to look like an old fool -- but it'd help Michaels come out of the feud with some dignity, and give the rub to some young guys on the roster.

well vince will be coming out on the next raw to hype brets return. this will tell us where they are going with it.

If shawn and bret dont appear in the ring at the same time..I'll never watch wwe again

:lol:

Oh that James!

like I feel sorry yo

You have the internet and all the backstory info you could ask for, and yet you're still wrong about everything in this ignorantly stupid post. Good job.

You must be one of these 14 year old DX marks. I judge that on the Bret Fart lolz remark.

Oh, plus you type in DX green.

Crime time needs a push

lol Bret Fart

Anyone who thinks Bret will ever wrestle again is fucking retarded and crazy. Flying on a plane is a problem for him because of his medical issues, so even taking a fake move is out. he would have done this for the money if he could have. Lets also ignore the fact that he is 52 and hasnt been in ring shape in 10 years.

This whole thing comes down to this...Bret has finally forgiven the WWE for his issues and Owens Death to appear for a SHORT period to help get his family over. The Hart Dynasty are going to be a major part of this I guarantee it.

He has stated that most of the reasons he even went into the hall and did DVDs is to prevent his family from being shut out.

In the end fans will get to see him again. vince will stroke his ego and go over bret somehow (probably through a Trump like "select a representative match") and then he will go back to canada and live his life in peace.

Sorry, man -- I believe Rob on this. I'm sure we're never going to see a proper wrestling match from Bret Hart again, but there is a lot of money in Bret "fighting" someone. Also, just to play Devil's advoate -- how do you know that Bret has not been looking after himself, and could not possibly be in "ring shape," at least appearances-wise, if not health-wise?

billybones. You little fuck. Who told you that you were allowed to post in this fucking thread? Dont you have some hannah montana pics to jerk off over? Go do that and when you done find a rope, and hang yourself. Don't bother with a suicice note as it will just be a complete waste of a green pen and paper.

you got it wrong

its Bret 'The shit man' Fart

Kareru, I just lost respect for you.

However you won my respect

"I think it's obvious that you american wrestling fans..you dont respect me. Well the fact is, I dont respect you...you dont deserve it. So from here on in, the american wrestling fans, coast to coast, can kiss my ass!!"

lol Bret Fart

that Billy Bonez guy is going places

yup to a prison for incest where he will be licking semen and liking it.

Billy bones will be getting bones up his asshole until his shitpipe bursts.

what, i love bret hart. i also love thinking up derogatory rhyming names of wrestlers eg.

'The Nature Boy' Dick Scare

If Bret doesn't wrestle keep this in mind. Bret Hart vs The Undertaker at Summerslam 97 with HBK as the ref.

Perhaps we could see Bret be the ref in Taker/HBK at WM.

Thats what I am hoping for because I am not going to be disappointed by this run. It will rock. And lets be honest, the chance of Bret wrestling is slim.

I'm really excited about Hart returning, but I have a hunch it'll be piss poorly booked.

And I heard from Wrestlezone and F4WOnline that Vince might cut a promo on Bret tonight.

Bret needs to come in and allign himself with Chris Jericho, Edge and the Hart Dynasty.

getting really excited about vinces announcement . will have to wait til tomorow to catch it on youtube though :( no live raw down here.

I love Bret Hart and can't wait to see him, BUT...
 

Any wrestling fan in his sane mind, should be watching TNA on January 4th, and DVR Raw.

I was talking with my buddy about how stale and bland the WWE product has become without WCW pushing it. Like any other organization, competition usually brings out the best one has to offer.

For those that are older, the reason wrestling peaked in the 90's was becuase WWE and WCW were contstantly competing over talent and audience. As much TNA has grown, it is still no where near the WWE brand. Hopefully, TNA can draw a nice number on Monday, and wake WWE up.

How great were the days when talant would jump from one brand to another. Speaking of Brands, I so wish that WWE would simply combine rosters and have one talent pool, or allow for no crossover at all (but thats an entirely different topic).

Anyway, I hope you all join me in watching TNA on Monday.

How to put this in a way that makes sense:

Watching TNA for me is like getting punched in the throat.

Watching Raw for me is like getting punched in the liver.

I could pick between the one that will be the least painful. Sad to say, I have better things to do on Monday.

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lol billy, is that your prison bitch name?

To the gut who said we should be watching tna..if anyone else,even jesus, was hosting raw I'd watch TNA but its bret hart! How the fuck can you not get that?

Strike another "it will never happen" off the list. Would be even better if it was in Canada.

This is Bret Hart...after 12 years retuning to the wwe. And you want us to record it?

lol

I'd mark the fuck out for that.

:lol: Zen is right, Bret Hart making a return to RAW live is a hell of a lot better than ANYTHING the TNA Clusterfuck starring Hulk Hogan and the Political Party of wrestling could put on.

Fixed.

dude why would I watch tna over seeing my favourite wrestler ever?

I won't. I'll be watching Raw for a change.

What's ironic there is the Spike TV logo.

hornswoggle vs bret hart jan 4th only on monday night bore

Better than Styles vs Hogan - Finger Poke of Doom 2.

but swoggle vs bret hart is more likely to happen

No, actually Styles vs Hogan is. Hogan's booker, and will likely be wrestling at least once. Both no on Bret.

SO,
was that "only good things will happen" a sign of shawn turning heel?
"I for one will be happy to see bret one more time" sounds like a devious plan in the making...

I can only imagine the ovation that Bret is going to get on RAW next week. No doubt will be one of the biggest ones ever. Not Triple H's return at MSG big, but may be close. Nevermind, crowd is completely different now than in 2002, they react differently, less passion involved with the audience now.

WWE better not screw this up.

Apparently the Vince/Shawn promo on RAW was chilling. I definitely hope this leads to Bret vs. Shawn, even with surrogates wrestling for them. Example: Tyson Kidd vs. Bryan Danielson.

TNA is really going to have to bust out some surprises to make people forget about The Hitman's return.

If this was in NY or Chicago, it'd be huge

I think WWE is more concerned about the Fiesta Bowl (in which 2 undefeated teams are playing each other) than TNA.

I want to see Bret in Montreal.

That would be surreal.

Is there a Raw there between now and Mania?

Nothing in Canada is schedueled.

http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/

nope

lol

"Mon, Mar 1 WWE and JR's Family BBQ present Monday Night Raw - Oklahoma City, Okla. 7:15 p.m. "

What, JR owns and operates some BBQ restaurants in Oklahoma.

I know, but it just struck me funny that you have this listing of "WWE presents...", "WWE presents..." and then that.

JVC Kaboom Box presents...

Calling it now- Next week we're going to see Bret "Hitman" Hass....
"I'm the Bret there is, the Bret there was, the Bret there ever will be!"

Maybe it WOULD be better if we watch TNA. Because if TNA wins in the ratings Vince will kick it in high gear and put out better storylines and actually try harder with his product.

but yeah no thats not gonna happen

I understand the reasoning for those who are urging everyone to watch TNA, but in all reality, it's ignorant to believe that they have a fighting chance come Monday. They might, MIGHT, equal the ratings they normally get in their Thursday slot.

TNA thought they had a shot with Hogan. But as many have already said, Hogan has hung around and made himself all too common to long. It was great back in 02 when he was back in WWE for the first time in a long time. But it's soon to be 2010, and Hogan makes a "comeback" seemingly every other year. It's nothing special anymore. Not to mention, Hogan didn't come out of his son's car accident debacle and divorce with his wife looking like a saint. His public image took a dramatic dive. And with the divorce, one has to wonder how strapped for cash he really is.

Bret's a whole 'nother story. Here's a guy who was the main cog in arguably the biggest moment in wrestling history. The "screwjob" was the catapult for so much. Without it, we may have never had the Attitude era. Bret's disdain for Vince and his company is incredibly well documented, and may by far be the biggest topic of discussion for any era of wrestling. It's been 12 years, Bret's been through a lot, and minus some book signings and one off in ring appearances, Bret's stayed away from mainstream wrestling. This is the biggest news this decade. Bret Hart is finally coming home. Anyone who would even slightly fathom not tuning in, at the very least for the opening segment, just to try and start a new Monday Night War, is kidding themselves.

Also, I wonder if there was a collective groan when the TNA front office heard the news that Bret's coming back to host on the night they decide to go head-to-head.

anyway TNA have already done what they set out to do on this 'mission', get the attention of the WWE and say ' hey look, you're not the only dog in town' and they have done that already, why else would you see bret hart back in the WWE?

Plus TNA has us all talking. This is a success, no matter how badly it does ratings-wise. It just depends on if they follow up or let everything go in the shitter.

A nationally televised BCS Bowl Game featuring 2 undefeated teams airing on FOX that they are sending John Cena to in order to promote WrestleMania!

Mrs. JR to be Guest Host that night!

Whatever TNA does is a lot like bringing a knife to a gun fight. TNA cannot, with their current talent, booking, reputation, and publicity, hold their own in a ratings war with WWE. WWE can promote the same main event for months and it'll out draw TNA.
Oh, wait, they already did that with Cena/Orton.

WWE could cancel everything they have booked for RAW this Monday and replace it with Yoshi Tatsu vs Vance Archer in a 120-minute IronMan match and it would outdraw TNA with Hulk Hogan wrestling the ghost of Andre The Giant.

the only guy hogan is going to be wrestling is jay lethal, purely for comedic value

Common now guys comparing WWE to TNA is like comparing a bad day fishing vs a good day at work.

Maybe Vince McMahon screws D-Generation X over to make it up to Bret Hart, but Hart doesn’t accept it and does something to restart the match. Either way, I see Hart being a face and DX staying face, which means something like this needs to go down.

why do you guys even care?!! horrible fuckin wrestler. couldnt match the stinger on his best day.
never drew a dime

just an asshole who wore pink. the only time i hated the nwo was when he was in it.

This is going to be interesting. Not just because it's Hart and he's going to be more over than the entire building combined, but because of the fact that he's never been one about fun and games or jokes, yet wrestling is probably not going to be taking place. Bret didn't work his magic on the mic, it was all in the ring.

i will shove your mothers tampon in your mouth you cuntfaggot.

On a more serious note, bret most likely will not be in any physical altercations. I do foresee a face to face confrontation with shawn michaels and vince in the ring. Bret will probably give shawn his shot at undertaker if he beats vince in a match or something.

Shawn will apologise to bret..this will bring out our old friend Mr. Mcmohan.

One thing to remember is that bret is going to be around for a few months.

lol

Bret can't tie Shawn's laces.
































Literally, the guy had a stroke. He can barely tie his own. That's just sad people.




































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I think the plan is Bret vs. Vince in a streetfight at Mania