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Droford 03-10-2010 10:44 PM

Mason stays with the Ravens for 2 More years.

Boldin/Mason/Stallworth

Should be decent

Gonzo 03-10-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 2974369)
He wasn't re-signed and I highly doubt he'll be back. He's like 44 years old and his punting took a huge step back. Wouldn't surprise me if he retired or something.

I love Feagles but fuck, he can't punt more than 30-35 yards anymore. Time to go with a young leg. I wouldn't mind a change at the K position either.

Big Fat Mike 03-11-2010 11:58 AM

Re-sign Jay Feely. He can kick AND punt

Innovator 03-11-2010 01:44 PM

I'm ok with Jay Feely, Tynes was one miss away from being cut last year anyways

FearedSanctity 03-11-2010 02:49 PM

Willie Clark convicted of murdering Darrent Williams 3 years ago, as well as attempted murder of Javon Walker and everyone else in the limo at the time. Ironically, he's already in jail awaiting trial on a separate murder case

Droford 03-11-2010 05:18 PM

I wonder if the Browns are interested in Troy Smith now?

Team Sheep 03-12-2010 08:53 PM

So LT could be a Jet. :-\ Mixed thoughts.

CSL 03-12-2010 09:07 PM

I'd feel quite positive. Low money, low risk.

Gonzo 03-12-2010 09:20 PM

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ClockShot 03-12-2010 09:38 PM

Larry Johnson the the Redskins.

Team Sheep 03-12-2010 09:54 PM

I guess. Just feels like a bit of a step backwards. I thought Greene and Washington had us set for the future. But yeah if it's a good deal, it can't hurt. With Washington coming back from injury it would be good to break him back in easier with the three of them sharing the load.

Heros Welcome 03-14-2010 05:28 PM

Brady Quinn welcome to the Broncos.

Adam_Schefter

Broncos traded FB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th-round draft selection and a late-round 2012 pick to Cleveland for quarterback Brady Quinn.

Heros Welcome 03-14-2010 06:19 PM

LT on his way to the J!E!T!S! JETS JETS JETS

Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: it's official. LaDainian Tomlinson is a Jet. He reached agreement on a two-year contract. Done.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 03-14-2010 08:26 PM

Wow Browns could have gotten Jay Cutler for Quinn last year. This year; 2 sixth round picks and Peyton Hillis.

Don't think LT to the Jets is an upgrade. Would have rather kept Thomas Jones if I was them. LT is soft by NFL standards.

FearedSanctity 03-14-2010 08:47 PM

TOM Brandstater
BRADY Quinn

SUPER BOWL

DaveBrawl 03-14-2010 09:37 PM

I miss Peyton Hillis already. Guess I need to change my sig now.

ClockShot 03-14-2010 09:37 PM

:nono:

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FearedSanctity 03-14-2010 10:14 PM

Yeah, pretty sure I'd rather have a potential starting QB rather than a RB we never use. LOVE Hillis, but McDaniels clearly just has no use for him.

Crimson 03-14-2010 10:30 PM

And Cleveland has also traded Kamerion Wimbley to the Raiders for a 3rd rounder this year. WTF are they doing..now they have no pass rush, no defensive line and no secondary.

Loose Cannon 03-14-2010 10:33 PM

fk'n LT. wow.

DaveBrawl 03-14-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearedSanctity (Post 2979203)
Yeah, pretty sure I'd rather have a potential starting QB rather than a RB we never use. LOVE Hillis, but McDaniels clearly just has no use for him.

Yeah I know, but still...:'(

McDaniels will likely leave Quinn in Hillis' spot on the bench anyway.:lol:

Innovator 03-14-2010 10:59 PM

OK Jets fans

His name is Ladanian

LdT, BabyLT

He's not LT

FearedSanctity 03-14-2010 11:05 PM

It's not like he's some no name LBer using LT as a nickname, LT are his actual initials. He's just as entitled to the name as Lawrence Tynes is. I don't exactly care for the guy, but it's pretty ridiculous that people make a big deal about him using his own initials as a nickname just because someone else shares them and used them first.

Innovator 03-14-2010 11:18 PM

bLT sits on the sidelines when his feelings are hurt

LT would go get 4 sacks after being dragged into the locker room unconcious after snorting an 8 ball off girls' asses.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 03-15-2010 12:50 AM

I don't even know how it's possible but LT's book is one of the most hilarious/sad things I've ever read, all at the same time.

Gonzo 03-15-2010 12:55 AM

I think I remember a story about LT about how opposing players would send girls to his room the night before a game to "tire him out." Or maybe it was the other way around. Either way, rofl.

Emperor Smeat 03-15-2010 02:28 AM

If he fell for that trick then he's pretty dumb since that is one of the oldest NFL tricks. I think the 49ers managed to beat the Bengals in one of their 2 Superbowl meetings that way.

Innovator 03-15-2010 09:13 AM

He used to send them to the other players rooms

Evil Vito 03-15-2010 11:50 AM

<font color=goldenrod>lol the Giants and Jets are arguing over who gets to play the first meaningful game in the new stadium.

Giants are claiming the NFL promised them the first game when the Jets got to close Giants Stadium...Jets say it will be determined via coin toss.</font>

Big Fat Mike 03-15-2010 12:01 PM

The new GIANTS stadium. What's the problem ffs.

Evil Vito 03-15-2010 12:15 PM

<font color=goldenrod>WOOOOOOO Giants win the coin toss</font>

Loose Cannon 03-15-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fat Mike (Post 2981584)
The new GIANTS stadium. What's the problem ffs.

yea, that would be a great answer if it was actually called Giants stadium

Hanso Amore 03-15-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2979409)
I think I remember a story about LT about how opposing players would send girls to his room the night before a game to "tire him out." Or maybe it was the other way around. Either way, rofl.

LT did this to Bruce Smit hand Thurman Thomas

Gonzo 03-15-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2981610)
yea, that would be a great answer if it was actually called Giants stadium

I'll probably just say Meadowlands personally, from now on.

I thought it was kind of ironic the Jets played the last home game in Giants Stadium, but whatever.

OssMan 03-15-2010 10:50 PM

The Meadowlands Complex at Xanadu

Jesus Shuttlesworth 03-15-2010 11:13 PM

Let's go New Jersey Jets/Giants

Reavant 03-15-2010 11:24 PM

so they built another stadium and both teams still share it? does anyone else think thats retarded?

Hanso Amore 03-15-2010 11:41 PM

Fuck the F-A-G-S anywhoe. eli earned this shit. Sanchez can suck more dicks

Hanso Amore 03-16-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2982995)
Fuck the F-A-G-S anywhoe. eli earned this shit. Sanchez can suck more dicks

I have no recollection of posting this

Gonzo 03-16-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2982940)
so they built another stadium and both teams still share it? does anyone else think thats retarded?

No, because I don't think the New Jersey state government was willing to put in much money towards the project. They split the cost of a state of the art facility.

RoXer 03-16-2010 06:32 PM

I could have sworn the Jets were building their own stadium. Where did I get that from?

Team Sheep 03-16-2010 06:39 PM

There were original plans for the Jets to build a stadium on the West side of Manhattan. Looked amazing.

Team Sheep 03-16-2010 06:41 PM

http://www.thermomax.com/images/Jet_Stadium_2.jpg

http://voot.pair.com/hoofaway/stadium1603.jpg

Reavant 03-16-2010 11:21 PM

wow that would have been awesome... then they could have actually been a new york team

Gonzo 03-16-2010 11:54 PM

You know, I've never heard anyone from a good team make any remark about the Giants or Jets playing in Jersey, mostly just resentful Buffalo fans because their team perpetually sucks ass.

Reavant 03-16-2010 11:58 PM

cuz the jets have been such a bright spot in the nfl since like superbowl 3 shut the fuck up

Gonzo 03-17-2010 12:00 AM

What are you going to say about the Giants, douche?

Anyways, I was just stating my experience. Pretty much only shithead Buffalo fans remark about the Giants and Jets in Jersey.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-17-2010 12:02 AM

Well I make remarks about it too, but I live in Ohio so you probably didn't hear me.

Reavant 03-17-2010 12:03 AM

im not going to say anything about the giants because they have actually been a good team in the past and actually had their own stadium

James Steele 03-17-2010 12:05 AM

Yeah, those 4 consecutive SuperBowl appearances and AFC Championships are meaningless. :roll:

James Steele 03-17-2010 12:10 AM

I am biased though since I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, and Cowboys fans love the Buffalo Bills.

McLegend 03-17-2010 12:19 AM

I don't really care if the Giants or the Jets play in NJ. Totally irrelevant for my hate for the Giants.

Also think having 2 NFL Stadiums in the same city is a waste of money and space.

Gonzo 03-17-2010 12:19 AM

Nah but on a serious note, I would love it if the Giants played in New York state. I just don't think there has ever been a feasible situation come up after they moved to New Jersey.

Gonzo 03-17-2010 12:20 AM

Besides, the stadium is about as close to New York without being in New York as it possibly could be. You can see the city from the Meadowlands.

Reavant 03-17-2010 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 2984441)
I don't really care if the Giants or the Jets play in NJ. Totally irrelevant for my hate for the Giants.

Also think having 2 NFL Stadiums in the same city is a waste of money and space.

what about all the cities with two baseball stadiums or basketball arenas

Reavant 03-17-2010 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2984444)
Besides, the stadium is about as close to New York without being in New York as it possibly could be. You can see the city from the Meadowlands.

yea but its still ridiculous that a team that says its from new york cant depend on that city/state to give them money to built a stadium

Gonzo 03-17-2010 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2984447)
yea but its still ridiculous that a team that says its from new york cant depend on that city/state to give them money to built a stadium

Of course it is. I think it is more indicative of the area though than the team. I can't blame either team for going to Jersey, they made a bid over New York in the '70s.

I'd be interested to know the background of the Bills stadium. They seem like a fan base that would be willing to assume the costs of a stadium. I don't really think city area residents would be willing to do that with the Giants or Jets, unfortunately. The god damn PSLs they're putting on the seats at this new complex at the Meadowlands is going to price out the average fan, but that's the way that these things get built now a days.

McLegend 03-17-2010 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2984445)
what about all the cities with two baseball stadiums or basketball arenas

You play 81 baseball games at home. You play at most 12 home games inculding preseason. Huge difference there.

Also the Yankees and the Mets one year in the 70's shared Shea stadium... Can't do that today, because of expansion since then.

Also as of right now there isn't a City that holds two NBA teams besides LA and they share a building.

Gonzo 03-17-2010 12:39 AM

I guess Woody Johnson, the owner of the Jets, was pissed the Giants are getting the first game in the new joint. Goodell said something about having the Jets play at home that weekend too and play on Monday night instead. I gotta say, I don't understand his anger, because as a fan I don't think I would mind either Sunday or Monday. On one hand, you get the first overall game, on the other, you have the first Monday night prime time game.

Emperor Smeat 03-17-2010 12:52 AM

Forgot who it was on Around The Horn yesterday that gave the best solution to the Jets-Giants problem. He suggested the 1st game in the new stadium should have been Jets vs Giants since it would solve the problem of who gets to play there 1st since they would both be playing at the same time.

Only reason the old stadium never had this issue was because the Giants are older than the Jets by a good 40+ years in the NFL which explains why the stadium was named Giants stadium. Only fair to have Jets close the stadium since Giants opened the old stadium (even though no such thing as 2 NY/NJ teams in the 1920s).

Gonzo 03-17-2010 01:05 AM

Yeah, I kind of figured that they would make a scheduling exemption and put the Jets versus the Giants for the opening of the new stadium. Kind of defies common sense.

Team Sheep 03-17-2010 08:08 AM

Meh, I don't see why you should make a scheduling exemption just because of a new stadium. It's going the most sensible route, a flip of a coin. Can't get much fairer than that.

Hanso Amore 03-17-2010 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2984411)
You know, I've never heard anyone from a good team make any remark about the Giants or Jets playing in Jersey, mostly just resentful Buffalo fans because their team perpetually sucks ass.

Its not a matter of good or bad, its that we are the only NY team and the state doesn't give us any fucking money like downstate

Hanso Amore 03-17-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sheep (Post 2984703)
Meh, I don't see why you should make a scheduling exemption just because of a new stadium. It's going the most sensible route, a flip of a coin. Can't get much fairer than that.

Exactly.

It will fuck up the two East Divisions schedules or else they lose the "division plays the same people" aspect

Gonzo 03-17-2010 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2984706)
Its not a matter of good or bad, its that we are the only NY team and the state doesn't give us any fucking money like downstate

I don't think New York's state government contributes anything to the teams. I may be wrong. I think most of the state's budget is allocated near the city, second Albany, and then everywhere else. The fucking state is in such a hole because of shitty state government in the first place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2984711)
Exactly.

It will fuck up the two East Divisions schedules or else they lose the "division plays the same people" aspect

I'm pretty sure two of the games each year are based on records or something like that. I don't think it would have been too hard to schedule. Either way I don't really care. In 20 years, is anyone going to care who had the first game in the new stadium? They shouldn't. Should Goodell have had both parties meet to discuss the plans? Maybe. Ultimately I don't think it is a big deal.

Innovator 03-17-2010 04:22 PM

Coughlin at Tebow's pro day? really?

Team Sheep 03-17-2010 04:55 PM

Well the Giants will open the stadium on a Sunday afternoon and then the Jets will play MNF the next night there. I'd rather the Monday night game tbh.

Gonzo 03-17-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 2985195)
Coughlin at Tebow's pro day? really?

Why not? Guy can play football.

James Steele 03-19-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2985240)
Why not? Guy can play college football.

FIXED

Gonzo 03-19-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2987365)
FIXED

No, the guy can play football. You're assuming I meant solely at the quarterback position. A guy with his talent, with the proper coaching, can contribute to an NFL team in other areas.

Reavant 03-20-2010 02:13 PM

what about his play says that he would have talent at any other position in the nfl? I dont get it when people say that. I mean I personally think he could be a good qb given the time to develop, but to say he would be a great part at any offense at a spot other than qb is stupid. What spot? Reciever? Running back? No hes too slow. Wing back? common.

And whoever says hed be a great linebacker is stupid to me because why would anyone think that when hes never played a down at defense.

CSL 03-20-2010 02:29 PM

Tight End or Safety

Reavant 03-20-2010 02:34 PM

again what tells anyone that hed be able to contribute there and safety would be a defensive position of which hes never played a down on that side of the ball aaaaand he is no where near fast enough to be playing safety

Gonzo 03-20-2010 05:07 PM

I think he could contribute as an H-Back.

Reavant 03-20-2010 06:45 PM

running back?

OssMan 03-21-2010 06:50 PM

Giants will draft Tim Zeeboe

Hanso Amore 03-22-2010 01:28 PM

I am with you Reav. Tebow is Just another great college system player made better by playing on the most talented team in the country.

I also hate people who "think his intangibles are worth it"

The guy is a Bible Beater who takes accountability.

Gonzo 03-22-2010 06:38 PM

You know, I'm not one for the hole Bible thumping aspect of Tebow, but it is refreshing to see someone like him over your stereotypical athlete making the news for doing something stupid and foolish.

Reavant 03-22-2010 06:47 PM

yea totally but that doesnt change the fact that what hes shown thus far isnt as promising as the normal sociopathic amazing athlete. However he does work extremely hard so im sure he can turn into a decent qb, but i just cant see him playing any other position with success.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 03-22-2010 11:11 PM

Plenty of players have had great careers and have been winners in college, doesn't always translate to success in the NFL. There's no denying he's done things the right way but having the "it" factor isn't just limited to Tim Tebow.

I do think he could be a decent short yardage back if he isn't playing QB. But a decent short yardage back is a late round draft pick at best, not a 2nd rounder. Michael Robinson from Penn State who was a similar QB in college has made that move recently. I don't think he is gonna go that route though, he is gonna be drafted as a QB.

Hanso Amore 03-22-2010 11:24 PM

The scary thing is the Bills are fucking ALLL OVER Tebws cock.

They want him bad.

Sucks.

Earlier commentsasise (they were a little harsh) The guy is an all time gamer, and has gotten by in COLLEGE as a HIGH MOTOR type. he really isnt that gifted as a player physically or mentally (comparative) but gets by on guts and hard work

That wont float in the NFL.

he has played QB all his life. He would be Matt Jons as a different position.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 03-22-2010 11:31 PM

Well Matt Jones played some WR in college and was a completely different athlete. Matt Jones probably could have been a decent receiver if he didn't love the nose candy.

I mean I don't think Jason White ever even broke camp with a NFL team and he had quite the college career at Oklahoma. It's gonna be tough for Tebow.

Big Fat Mike 03-22-2010 11:33 PM

In other news, Chris Johnson has the ugliest car ever.

Heros Welcome 03-22-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2991308)
The scary thing is the Bills are fucking ALLL OVER Tebws cock.

They want him bad.

Sucks.

Earlier commentsasise (they were a little harsh) The guy is an all time gamer, and has gotten by in COLLEGE as a HIGH MOTOR type. he really isnt that gifted as a player physically or mentally (comparative) but gets by on guts and hard work

That wont float in the NFL.

he has played QB all his life. He would be Matt Jons as a different position.


I think Bills fans might be able to sleep easy and not worry about Tebow running the show. With Seattle landing Whitehurst in that deal you would think there going to shift the focus to either O line or possibly Spiller at there pick. So the only thing possible standing in front of Claussen being the new Buffalo savior are the Browns, and I question if they would take another ND QB.

ClockShot 03-23-2010 02:34 PM

Josh McDevil says "Kyle Orton is our starting quarterback"

Remember when he said "Jay Cutler is our starting quarterback"?

FearedSanctity 03-23-2010 03:02 PM

And how Jay continued to cry until he got traded?

Gonzo 03-23-2010 04:23 PM

NFL Playoff OT rules change in a 28-4 vote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064

If a team kicks a field goal in overtime the other team will get a chance on offense. If a team scores a touchdown in overtime, the game is over. I interpret it to work that if the second team ties with a field goal, the first overtime quarter continues until someone scores a touchdown. If after the first overtime the teams are still tied, they go to a second overtime quarter which is played under the old sudden death rules.

Seems rather silly. The story cites the increased accuracy of field goal kickers, and the change from the kickoff position being the 30 yard line, as opposed to the 35 yard line pre-1994, giving teams better field position in overtime.

I don't really know what I think about it yet. I suppose if it's applied and comes off being retarded they will just revert back to the original overtime format. They plan on discussing implementing this policy for the regular season during the owner's meetings in May.

Big Fat Mike 03-23-2010 04:30 PM

Looks like the Giants are actually going to have to put the ball in the Endzone in OT.

Gonzo 03-23-2010 04:41 PM

We're fucked.

James Steele 03-23-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus Shuttlesworth (Post 2991316)
Well Matt Jones played some WR in college and was a completely different athlete. Matt Jones probably could have been a decent receiver if he didn't love the nose candy.

I mean I don't think Jason White ever even broke camp with a NFL team and he had quite the college career at Oklahoma. It's gonna be tough for Tebow.

Jason White also didn't have any knees coming out of college. He was in his mid-20s when he finally used all of his eligibility. I agree with you that Tebow will not be anything special in the NFL.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2992037)
NFL Playoff OT rules change in a 28-4 vote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064

If a team kicks a field goal in overtime the other team will get a chance on offense. If a team scores a touchdown in overtime, the game is over. I interpret it to work that if the second team ties with a field goal, the first overtime quarter continues until someone scores a touchdown. If after the first overtime the teams are still tied, they go to a second overtime quarter which is played under the old sudden death rules.

Seems rather silly. The story cites the increased accuracy of field goal kickers, and the change from the kickoff position being the 30 yard line, as opposed to the 35 yard line pre-1994, giving teams better field position in overtime.

I don't really know what I think about it yet. I suppose if it's applied and comes off being retarded they will just revert back to the original overtime format. They plan on discussing implementing this policy for the regular season during the owner's meetings in May.

I don't understand why they just adopt the college overtime rules, but change the yard line in which you start. In college, it is the opponents 25, but I think in the NFL they could start from their own 20.

Innovator 03-23-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2992059)
We're fucked.

Well....shit.

Innovator 03-23-2010 04:49 PM

Best we can hope for would be a Hurricane Pick Six

ClockShot 03-23-2010 05:41 PM

The 4 teams that went against the vote were the Vikes, Bengals, Bills, and Ravens.

In case anybody was wondering who and why.

Gonzo 03-23-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2992065)
I don't understand why they just adopt the college overtime rules, but change the yard line in which you start. In college, it is the opponents 25, but I think in the NFL they could start from their own 20.

I don't really like college overtime. In essence, it removes aspects of the game that are integral to it.

They should just have kept OT the way it is.

Gonzo 03-23-2010 06:15 PM

Anyways, after thinking about it, if they're going to make this change they should have done it like this:

Whether team A scores a field goal or touchdown, they must kick off to team B who then has a chance to match the score. If team B matches team A's score from their initial drive, the game then goes to sudden death rules.

I don't understand why they're limiting the chance at offense to a field goal. Just go all or nothing. I think the biggest detraction from the overtime rules are that one team may not get a chance at offense and that the game is decided on the flip of a coin (which I personally think is a bullshit excuse to lose a game.) Make it all or nothing with the point scoring (not just a field goal, include touchdowns) and you eliminate the biggest criticism, at least in my opinion.

FearedSanctity 03-23-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2992065)
I don't understand why they just adopt the college overtime rules, but change the yard line in which you start. In college, it is the opponents 25, but I think in the NFL they could start from their own 20.

Except that removes an important part of the game, the kickoff and return. That's what I don't like about college OT is that the points are pretty much already a given, hardly have to do anything to earn them. This way yeah, both teams are almost guaranteed a shot, but it's your teams ability that decides just how easy those points are to get.

FearedSanctity 03-23-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 2992177)
I don't understand why they're limiting the chance at offense to a field goal. Just go all or nothing. I think the biggest detraction from the overtime rules are that one team may not get a chance at offense and that the game is decided on the flip of a coin (which I personally think is a bullshit excuse to lose a game.) Make it all or nothing with the point scoring (not just a field goal, include touchdowns) and you eliminate the biggest criticism, at least in my opinion.

Pretty sure their reasoning is that, if you can't stop them from scoring a TD, you really have no business getting the win.

Gonzo 03-23-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearedSanctity (Post 2992185)
Pretty sure their reasoning is that, if you can't stop them from scoring a TD, you really have no business getting the win.

You could technically rationalize that for a field goal as well.

FearedSanctity 03-23-2010 11:21 PM

True, but come on, fuck losing by a field goal. If I'm gonna lose I'd rather it be because their offense played better than my defense. Not because their kicker has a strong leg. And it's getting to the point where most teams don't need very far to go to get in FG range anymore.

Maybe it's just me, but losing by a first possession FG is the shittiest way possible to end a game.

Shadow 03-23-2010 11:41 PM

I'm gonna agree with FS. At least give the opposing team another shot at actually answering back.


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