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Next Big Thing 11-21-2010 01:03 PM

It's to be expected. I'd be willing to wager that the majority of people who attend a UFC fight are casual fans who have the unrealistic expectation that these guys are going to go in and just swing on each other or try to break each other's arm.

If you are ignorant about the nuances of the sport and only want to see shit like that of course you'll boo.

To call the Detroit crowd "thugs" for booing is off a little. The Indianapolis crowd did the same shit as did the German crowd during Marquardt's fight. It's almost every major market that does it.

Honestly, I'd rather watch technical fighters like Shields or Jacare than two guys who go in there just swinging wildly at each other.

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 01:05 PM

I like the bangers (which is why i'm a huge Rampage mark) but to boo grappling (which is a HUGE part of fighting) is ignorant..

Next Big Thing 11-21-2010 01:09 PM

Definitely agree, but again it's how the sport is marketed to a certain extent. UFC has released DVDs featuring the Greatest Knockouts or Greatest Submissions, but not too many about greatest grapplers. Even on ESPN they only show the KO's or taps for the most part so the casual fan expects to see only that.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-21-2010 01:12 PM

I don't know why Dana was more understanding of the Machida vs. Rampage fight than Marquardt vs. Okami. He shat all over Marquardt and Okami while praising Machida and Rampage, and I'd venture to say the fight in Germany was a better, more competitive, rough and tumble scrap.

I guess it's cuz he's fucked in the head.

Krimzon7 11-21-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3328429)
I don't know why Dana was more understanding of the Machida vs. Rampage fight than Marquardt vs. Okami. He shat all over Marquardt and Okami while praising Machida and Rampage, and I'd venture to say the fight in Germany was a better, more competitive, rough and tumble scrap.

I guess it's cuz he's fucked in the head.

It's because he caught all kinds of shit for dumping on two of his own fighters.

Next Big Thing 11-21-2010 01:40 PM

I think he was more understanding of Rampage's performance than the fight overall. Rampage went out there and tried to push the pace the best he can throughout the fight and survived the last round where Machida took him to the ground whereas that last round with Marquardt kind of sucked.

IC Champion 11-21-2010 01:43 PM

Apparently Rampage was sick 2 days before the fight and almost had to pull out.

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 02:01 PM

He had a fever he got from his son..

YOUR Hero 11-21-2010 09:42 PM

Ultimate Elusive Championship

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 10:08 PM

Machida runs which is a major reason i hate him..

Krimzon7 11-21-2010 10:44 PM

Page: i'm all for a rematch
Machida: I'm all for a rematch

DANA: Nobody wants to see a fuckin rematch

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 10:56 PM

That was all rogan..

No body wants to sde that..

Funky Fly 11-27-2010 03:36 PM

The core fans know what's up, the casual fans may or may not boo, but it's the douchebags who are the most vocal. They're the guys who make MMA fans sound retarded, the guys who have made it seem like only lame people wear Tapout shirts and the guys buying up (and thus propagating) all those terrible Ed Hardy shirts.

IC Champion 11-27-2010 04:26 PM

Only lame people do wear TapOut though. MMA clothes are incrediably gay.

Funky Fly 11-27-2010 05:06 PM

Tapout's been around for ages. No one thought anything of it until MMA got big and every douchebag and bro on earth started rocking them.

Kris P Lettus 11-27-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3336562)
Only lame people do wear TapOut though. MMA clothes are incrediably gay.

I'm lame for supporting a sport I love??

I don't only wear tapout.. I have dethrone, UFC, mma elite, team rampage, etc shirts..

IC Champion 11-27-2010 07:15 PM

Supporting MMA doesn't make you lame, wearing tacky shirts and having no fashion sense does.

Kris P Lettus 11-27-2010 07:21 PM

For the record, none of my shirts have tribal patterns or flaming skulls.. Most of the are pretty plain except my Kimbo's punchout one which is awesome..

IC Champion 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

That's cool, still lame though.

Kris P Lettus 11-27-2010 07:42 PM

I don't really care what people think of my clothes.. I wear what I like.. You will never see me wearing skinny jeans or hollister because it's "cool"..

Reavant 11-27-2010 08:02 PM

Shut the fuck up IC... theres nothing lame about all those clothes. Whats lame is the guys that get th shirts 3 sizes too small, matching jeans and sport an attitude that because theyre wearing it, theyre the toughest man on the planet. Its the douchebags wearing it making it lame.

Reavant 11-27-2010 08:05 PM

I mean what style are you?... Im t shirt and jeans or flannel and jeans some shit like that. How is that any more or less lame than the mma shit. Go turn on perez hilton and shut up

IC Champion 11-28-2010 05:54 PM

I'm a t-shirt and jeans guy, or a polo and jeans. I just think most of the MMA clothing looks really tacky, much in the same way I think Ed Hardy looks tacky. I don't care if it's white trash wearing it or not, though I'm sure it doesn't help the cause any.

Also, I assume you look like a lumberjack in your flannel, being the big, bearded, and the behemoth that you are.

Kris P Lettus 11-28-2010 07:23 PM

I wear saints, music, or mma shirts everyday cause those are the things I love..

:'(

IC Champion 11-28-2010 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3337569)
I wear saints, music, or mma shirts everyday cause those are the things I love..

:'(

That's cool. I was kind of generalizing really. Im sure you're not a tacky douche bag.

Kris P Lettus 11-30-2010 12:45 AM

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...e/a1c7f762.jpg

I am stylish..

The Mask 11-30-2010 06:08 AM

tuoqat

Kris P Lettus 11-30-2010 08:19 AM

Mirror

IC Champion 11-30-2010 12:50 PM

Is that an Iphone?

Kris P Lettus 11-30-2010 12:51 PM

Yes

iPhone 4 with the new style otterbox..

IC Champion 11-30-2010 12:55 PM

Atleast something in the photo is sylin'. Also Blackberry > Iphone.

Kris P Lettus 11-30-2010 12:56 PM

Throw back Saints hat>*

IC Champion 11-30-2010 01:01 PM

Also, I definetly am getting an otterbox for my next phone.

Kris P Lettus 11-30-2010 01:26 PM

They are pretty good..

IC Champion 11-30-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3339559)
They are pretty good..

The screen on my Blackberry Curve is all scratched and shit, will be getting one with my Torch.

Kris P Lettus 11-30-2010 03:10 PM

I have these little protector screens that get beat to fuck and then you replace it..

:y:

Reavant 11-30-2010 10:49 PM

Samsung Epic > any phone out there... (I have an epic)

Reavant 11-30-2010 10:50 PM

Blackberrys suck because they an get viruses

Kris P Lettus 12-06-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

[Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Dana White have some personality similarities. It’s probably why the fighter and UFC owner bicker quite often. They both say what they feel and there isn’t much of a filter.

Jackson won a narrow decision over Lyoto Machida at UFC 123, but was stunned when the announcement was made. Just seconds earlier, he was getting punched in the grill and losing the third round. His reaction added to the controversial nature of the decision and it didn’t please his boss.*

"Me and Rampage are getting along OK, but he pisses me off again," White said at the UFC 123 postfight press conference (2:15 mark — video). "I had Rampage winning that fight two rounds to one. I scored that fight for Rampage. Rampage is slumping down and raising the other guy’s hand and acting like he lost. I thought he won the fight."

It didn’t seem like Jackson did anything wrong. After escaping with a tight decision win, it’s pretty rare for a fighter to show that kind of honesty and class.

Forty-five minutes later, when Jackson entered the presser, he was in apology mode.

"I’m sorry man. I had just gotten done getting punched in the face a couple times," Jackson said (7:52 mark). "Don’t pay me no mind.

"When I was in the fight I had a one-track mind, you know knockin’ him out. In the third round, when he dominated me so much, I forgot what happened in the first two rounds. … It’s one of those things, at the time I thought I got my ass whooped because I was just getting up off the ground and he [just] ran a flurry up on my face."

That seems plausible. Jackson was probably a little stunned. With all the adrenaline flowing right after a match, fighters are speaking with raw emotion.*

White looked at the entirety of the fight and liked what Rampage did*over 15 minutes.*

"That’s not the fight I saw. He definitely put on that burst where he landed five or six punches and definitely rocked him. You don’t win a fight off four or five punches," said White.



Scoring is very subjective. Some judges, media members and fans like Octagon control and counterstriking. Others favor the man pushing the action. Compustrike backed the judges and White. Jackson outlanded Machida 59-38 in a fight that spent 12:28 of 15 minutes on the feet.

"Rampage was the aggressor. He moved forward the entire fight. Everytime Lyoto would go with that leg kick, he’d fire and go after him," said White. "I 100 percent had Rampage winning the first two rounds and had the third round going to Machida. Again, nobody gives a [expletive] what I think, but I’m not a judge. But that’s how I scored the fight."*

In the seconds following the fight, Jackson said several times that Machida deserved a rematch. White emphatically shot down that idea (6:10 mark).

"No, no," said White when asked about Rampage-Machida II. "As far as I’m concerned, and apparently as far as the judges are concerned, Rampage won that fight."

White then repeated his displeasure of Jackson’s postfight behavior.

"Rampage is in there raising [Machida's] hand, slumping down, acting bummed out,* acting surprised when he won," White said. "He won two rounds. It’s a three-round fight. He won two of them."*

With White in his presence during the presser, Jackson made sure not to repeat the rematch offer.*

"This ain’t my show. I don’t own UFC homey. I just fight here," said Jackson (8:30).

Jackson also revealed that he almost had to back out of the fight after coming down with a stomach ailment he’d caught from his kids.*

"Dana’s always been there for me. Even if we don’t see eye to eye all the time," Jackson said (9:40 mark). "I just couldn’t tell Dana ‘I cant make this fight because I’m sick.’ He probably would’ve cussed me the [expletive] out."

Jackson comes out a big winner from this fight. He didn’t complain about Machida’s counterstriking style, as so many others have done. Fans who thought it was a boring fight should listen to Jackson when he says Machida is a beast. Jackson’s reaction probably saved the Brazilian’s reputation a bit too.*



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