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#1-norm-fan 07-07-2015 11:43 PM

I'd be all for that if they brought in a lot of gimmicks from the attitude era and a little after who haven't been around lately. Val Venis, The Hurricane, etc.

#1-norm-fan 07-07-2015 11:44 PM

Then have Zack Ryder be part of it and make his entrance looking around like "What the fuck am I doing in this?"

Lock Jaw 07-07-2015 11:46 PM

Dolph Ziggler enters as NICKY!!!

#1-norm-fan 07-08-2015 12:30 AM

No. Dolph Ziggler enters as Kerwin White's caddy.

Blonde Moment 07-08-2015 12:44 AM

Taker/Owens

DAMN iNATOR 07-08-2015 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4662818)
No. Dolph Ziggler enters as Kerwin White's caddy.

You just know Heath Slater can't be excluded...somebody's gotta be the guy who gets eliminated before he's in the ring for 1 second!

The CyNick 07-08-2015 07:25 PM

Lesnar vs Owens is the direction I would go.

#1-norm-fan 07-08-2015 07:49 PM

Lesnar... Ryback....

Should have happened at 29 but I'll take it now.

Damian Rey 07-08-2015 09:59 PM

I have no faith in creative that they will ever make anything out of what Ryback could've been.

#1-norm-fan 07-08-2015 10:17 PM

Neither do I. I don't even really have faith in his IC title run going well.

After SummerSlam the year prior to WM29 though when Ryback was still the beast he came in as and Lesnar had just made Triple H tap out, Ryback starting a "Feed me Brock" craze while Heyman subtly just kind of avoided it for a while building up to a match at WrestleMania between the two would have MADE Ryback. He would have become what they're having to try so hard to turn Reigns into.

Instead Triple H needed his win back and Ryback needed to put Mark Henry over...

Savio 07-09-2015 05:00 AM

Think its so stupid people book them selves over another person in a fake sport.

Blonde Moment 07-09-2015 05:28 AM

In the end it is all about money, higher up on the card you are the more money you make.

#1-norm-fan 07-09-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4663469)
Think its so stupid people book them selves over another person in a fake sport.

I get it in certain situations. Like if you're building toward something bigger. But in situations where there's a much better option that could likely build a new star for your company, choosing to put yourself over just to get your win back is definitely stupid.

Big Vic 07-09-2015 08:50 AM

Yeah, I wasn't watching much wrestling in 2011 but remember hearing HHH did the same thing to Punk around that time.

BigCrippyZ 07-09-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4663485)
I get it in certain situations. Like if you're building toward something bigger. But in situations where there's a much better option that could likely build a new star for your company, choosing to put yourself over just to get your win back is definitely stupid.

This. Especially for someone like HHH who hasn't really left the business for years ala Rock, Lesnar or Austin if he came back in the future or even HBK when he came back from his injury. I can see why those guys might want or feel like they need to get a win or two to reestablish themselves a little.

Someone like HHH or even Taker or recently, Jericho, don't need it. They're around often and long enough in recent history that no one cares if they lose to a current main eventer/up-comer and don't need to "get their win back."

DAMN iNATOR 07-09-2015 05:23 PM

Pretty sure Shawn's considered "officially" retired.

XL 07-09-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4662675)
Honestly, I may be in the minority here but if they can get HBK back for one more match, I wouldn't mind seeing Taker-HBK 3. Taker decides he's gonna retire after WrestleMania and HBK comes out and says if he's going out, he wants it to be against him. I'm convinced with months to prepare, HBK could pull another great match out of him. Have HBK win and the two of them shake hands after and walk off having capped off Taker's career with an epic match against his greatest WrestleMania opponent in both men's home state.

Nope.

40(-45) minute classic between Taker and Kane, dammit!!

Ruien 07-09-2015 07:04 PM

Just leave Taker off the card. His matches are barely watchable now.

James Steele 07-09-2015 07:42 PM

The Brock match was bad, but he was concussed and injured early. The Wyatt match wasn't bad, but it failed to live up to the expectations of the past decade of Undertaker matches.

Ruien 07-09-2015 07:56 PM

His past 3 matches have not been Mania worthy matches.

Blonde Moment 07-09-2015 07:58 PM

Something seemed way off with that last match.

#1-norm-fan 07-09-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4663799)
Pretty sure Shawn's considered "officially" retired.

Well damn. "Officially retired" in wrestling is quite official so I guess that's that.

Sepholio 07-09-2015 10:30 PM

Calling it now, Shawn at WM32. Keep talking about him being retired and it will happen.

#1-norm-fan 07-09-2015 10:41 PM

The thing that put the idea of the Taker match in my head was the rumors that WWE is trying to get him for WM32. If he's gonna have one more match, there would never be a better situation than facing Taker in his retirement match at WrestleMania in front of a crowd of 100,000 in Texas.

Sepholio 07-09-2015 11:08 PM

He could still carry Taker to a decent match, I'm sure. Unless Taker is just that far gone now. Which he probably is.

I know this sounds dumb probably, and it would piss off everyone ever, but they should do Sting v Taker and have Shawn come out for no reason and attack Sting. Originally I was thinking a DQ finish, but maybe have it happen right after the finish. Build to a Sting v Shawn retirement match. I want to see Shawn one more time, and him and Sting could probably have a decent match.

Savio 07-09-2015 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4664000)
I know this sounds dumb probably, and it would piss off everyone ever, but they should do Sting v Taker and have Shawn come out for no reason and attack Sting.

lol again?

Jazzy Foot 07-09-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4664010)
lol again?

Didn't HBK once save Sting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fALflqEoMYc

Then the whole thing just got fucking weird with the whole Jesus business. Even for a titty honking, foot fetishist, Paige's ass kissing and armpit sniffing freakazoid like me, that was just fucking weird.

James Steele 07-09-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4663870)
His past 3 matches have not been Mania worthy matches.

He had a valid reason for WM30 since his brain was scrambled, and the CM Punk match at WM29 was great. WM31 match was alright. The bar got set so high from WM21 vs Orton, WM23 vs Batista, WM24 vs Edge, and especially the WM25-26 vs HBK twice and WM27-28 vs HHH twice run that nothing really can live up to the expectations of a veteran fan's idea of an Undertaker WrestleMania match. The idea and the aura of the streak really didn't mean anything until WM21 vs Orton anyway. Bray vs Taker was better than any match Undertaker had before WM14.

Mr. Nerfect 07-10-2015 05:56 AM

The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels would actually be an awesome WrestleMania 32 match. HBK could come out of retirement with an old gunslinger's attitude -- you put me out, now I put you out, old man.

DAMN iNATOR 07-10-2015 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4663878)
Well damn. "Officially retired" in wrestling is quite official so I guess that's that.

Don't get me wrong, I know he could show up at any time for a one-off WM match. That's why I put officially in quotes. It could just be a kayfabe retirement, but I'm fairly certain it's not. Time will tell.

slik 07-10-2015 10:02 AM

I would like to see the Undertaker go one on one with...





























































Anybody THRILLA~!

Savio 07-10-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzy Foot (Post 4664012)
Didn't HBK once save Sting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fALflqEoMYc

Then the whole thing just got fucking weird with the whole Jesus business. Even for a titty honking, foot fetishist, Paige's ass kissing and armpit sniffing freakazoid like me, that was just fucking weird.

Yeah but HBK screwed sting at mania.

XL 07-10-2015 02:00 PM

I dunno. If HBK's coming out of retirement I'd like it to be something fresh, rather than the 3rd instalment of Taker-HBK.

Mr. Nerfect 07-10-2015 05:32 PM

Would love to see Kevin Owens vs. HBK to be honest.

#1-norm-fan 07-10-2015 07:24 PM

My ideal WrestleMania card that I can think of right now...

WWE World Heavyweight Title Match
Brock Lesnar(c) vs Ryback

Mixed Tag Match
Triple H and Stephanie McMahon vs The Rock and Ronda Rousey

Retirement Match
The Undertaker vs John Cena

Triple Threat Match
Roman Reigns vs Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose

WWE United States Title Match
Kevin Owens(c) vs Randy Orton

Bray Wyatt vs Finn Balor

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
The Miz(c) vs Fandango

The Bella Twins vs Trish Stratus and Lita

WWE World Tag Team Title Match (Guest Enforcer: Hulk Hogan)
The Usos(c) vs Sheamus and Rusev

Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal

Tag title match may seem a little odd but when trying to come up with a card, I came up with a situation where The Usos come back and regain the tag titles and also throw their support behind their family in The Rock and Roman Reigns, both of whom are feuding with The Authority. This pisses of Triple H and he enlists his super team of Sheamus and Rusev to take the titles off of them. Then through an argument with Vince or something, Hogan gets put in as an enforcer. Allows him to be part of the show and maybe even get involved physically a little without having to have a match. Feel like all of this would bring the tag titles prestige way up along with The Usos' stock.

Mr. Nerfect 07-10-2015 08:52 PM

Not bad, fan. Not bad.

Sixx 07-10-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzy Foot (Post 4664012)
Didn't HBK once save Sting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fALflqEoMYc

Then the whole thing just got fucking weird with the whole Jesus business. Even for a titty honking, foot fetishist, Paige's ass kissing and armpit sniffing freakazoid like me, that was just fucking weird.

What kind of a fucking show is that?

Mr. Nerfect 07-10-2015 09:00 PM

I think The Usos will get a moment where they win the Tag Team Championship at WrestleMania next year, but I'm not sure what heel team they will beat. To be honest, I could see it being Luke Harper & Erick Rowan, since those matches were so good. It wouldn't surprise me to see The Lucha Dragons and The New Day added to that as well though.

#1-norm-fan 07-10-2015 09:05 PM

Multi-team tag title pre-show matches at WrestleMania seem to be tradition now. So that's the most likely scenario. It would just be cool if they could build a tag title match to an upper card level where it HAS to be on the main show.

Mr. Nerfect 07-10-2015 09:14 PM

I agree. At WrestleMania XXX I thought "The Usos win on Kickoff here, then next year it's on the main show." Then it was the Fatal 4-Way on the pre-show again. I do think we'll see them on the main show next year though. They'll just need heel opponents that are worthy of their own spot.


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