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Mr. Nerfect 05-10-2023 01:55 AM

Yeah, World Heavyweight Champion should be on both shows if they’re from SmackDown. Why did they even create this belt? If the problem is Roman doesn’t defend, there simply being a belt on Raw doesn’t fix SmackDown’s problems.

This is some real AEW Title/Impact Title/ROH Title nonsense.

The Rogerer 05-10-2023 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5613918)
Yeah, World Heavyweight Champion should be on both shows if they’re from SmackDown. Why did they even create this belt? If the problem is Roman doesn’t defend, there simply being a belt on Raw doesn’t fix SmackDown’s problems.

This is some real AEW Title/Impact Title/ROH Title nonsense.

Very different? Don't quite follow you there chief

Mr. Nerfect 05-10-2023 05:29 AM

I’m sure you don’t.

The Rogerer 05-10-2023 06:23 AM

Handy reference so I don't get lost:
The AEW title is AEW's top title
The Impact title is Impact's top title
The ROH title is ROH's top title

I guess that's a bit like the WWE World WWE Heavyweight Title is the top title on the premier flagship show that doesn't get the ratings of the other show that's got the WWE Title which is a combination of the WWE Universal Title and the WWE WWE Heavyweight title (but not the other new one) and they've all only existed for a couple of years at most. I suppose it is the same yeah.

Mr. Nerfect 05-10-2023 01:20 PM

The Impact Title is Impact’s top title that has been defended on AEW television. The ROH Title is ROH’s top title that is also on an AEW mid-carder. Nice try.

Mr. Nerfect 05-10-2023 01:22 PM

Of the current possibilities, I’m not opposed to Edge beating Seth at Night of Champions.

#1-norm-fan 05-10-2023 10:09 PM

The more time that passes with WWE shitting on the prestige of being a world champion and half-assing WrestleMania cards, the more I think they should have just let Santino win the Rumble in 2011 and win the title at WrestleMania. It’s not like it would have led to any bad result that didn’t happen anyway. At least that way we would have gotten a nice little 3 month fever dream of a storyline to revisit occasionally.

XL 05-11-2023 02:40 AM

In a world where there 2 (or 3?) world titles, why not?

GD 05-11-2023 03:27 AM

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#1-norm-fan 05-11-2023 09:12 AM

Remember when Taker won the rumble and they had the champions stand in the ring for him to choose which title to go for and they included the ECW champion? Lol

GD 05-11-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5614110)
Remember when Taker won the rumble and they had the champions stand in the ring for him to choose which title to go for and they included the ECW champion? Lol

They tried.

If I recall correctly, Lashley was the champion at the time. Taker even fought Big Show for the belt on one of the weekly ECW shows.

XL 05-11-2023 11:52 AM

Lol Taker vs Big Show for the ECW Championship.

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2023 12:04 PM

If they had just kept doing ECW One Night Stand shows as escapes from the mainline WWE programming, it could have been awesome. With hindsight, the ongoing show was probably always going to fail (like CWC turning into 205 Live), but they really missed a beat by making it WWE-lite.

How they didn’t have Eugene do the Usual Suspects twist at ONS 2006 is still beyond me. I mean, I don’t WHY Nick Dinsmore would try to trick us all. And it probably would have gotten a huge pop which defeats the purpose to some extent, but it would have moved things forward.

But then they could have just done this on Raw or SmackDown. Take the things about ECW that worked and just use them. You didn’t need an ECW to introduce CM Punk or…well, I’m drawing blanks.

GD 05-11-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5614126)
Lol Taker vs Big Show for the ECW Championship.


I still have vivid memories of Show's title defense against Batista in the ECW arena. The crowd shat on them mercilessly.

XL 05-11-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5614129)
If they had just kept doing ECW One Night Stand shows as escapes from the mainline WWE programming, it could have been awesome. With hindsight, the ongoing show was probably always going to fail (like CWC turning into 205 Live), but they really missed a beat by making it WWE-lite.

How they didn’t have Eugene do the Usual Suspects twist at ONS 2006 is still beyond me. I mean, I don’t WHY Nick Dinsmore would try to trick us all. And it probably would have gotten a huge pop which defeats the purpose to some extent, but it would have moved things forward.

But then they could have just done this on Raw or SmackDown. Take the things about ECW that worked and just use them. You didn’t need an ECW to introduce CM Punk or…well, I’m drawing blanks.

Sounds like fertile ground for a “you people” promo to me.

Mr. Nerfect 05-12-2023 05:02 AM

Yeah, probably a “This is what you people need to be entertained!”

GD 05-12-2023 03:36 PM

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xrodmuc316 05-12-2023 08:17 PM

AJ Styles against 2 literal Hall of Famers :rofl:

Mr. Nerfect 05-12-2023 08:27 PM

Edge cut a pretty good promo on social media.

GD 05-14-2023 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5614313)
AJ Styles against 2 literal Hall of Famers :rofl:

That ending was brutal. I'm unsure if Edge was dazed or just forgot the spot. Regardless of that, I guess the result gives away Rollins as the front runner for the belt.

Mr. Nerfect 05-14-2023 06:01 PM

I’d be fine with AJ Styles winning the gold.

screech 05-15-2023 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5614126)
Lol Taker vs Big Show for the ECW Championship.

Wasn't it Lashley? That would've been something in 2007 lol

wwe2222 05-15-2023 08:25 PM

I like Seth but prefer to see AJ get one last decent run as a champ

xrodmuc316 05-15-2023 08:56 PM

Gotta laugh that after YEARS of killing NXT debuts by starting them off fueding with Dolph Ziggler, JD McDonagh in his Raw debut sets up a fued with DOLPH ZIGGLER!!! :rofl:

Sepholio 05-15-2023 09:42 PM

That vignette for him just now was pretty sweet.

Sepholio 05-15-2023 09:42 PM

VEER IS COMING

Sepholio 05-15-2023 09:51 PM

Did you guys see it!? VEER CAME

Fignuts 05-16-2023 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5614668)
Gotta laugh that after YEARS of killing NXT debuts by starting them off fueding with Dolph Ziggler, JD McDonagh in his Raw debut sets up a fued with DOLPH ZIGGLER!!! :rofl:

Probably because they can trust ziggler to make him look like a million bucks.

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2023 05:16 AM

I’m fine with Ziggler vs. McDonagh.

Sepholio 05-16-2023 08:38 AM

Would be a bigger deal if Dolph got the love he deserves.

Big Vic 05-16-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5614129)

How they didn’t have Eugene do the Usual Suspects twist at ONS 2006 is still beyond me. I mean, I don’t WHY Nick Dinsmore would try to trick us all. And it probably would have gotten a huge pop which defeats the purpose to some extent, but it would have moved things forward.

Would have been pretty cool to do that in his match with HHH.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5614129)
Take the things about ECW that worked and just use them. You didn’t need an ECW to introduce CM Punk or…well, I’m drawing blanks.

............Kelly Kelly?

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2023 09:13 AM

I was a bit disappointed nothing got done with him during the Vince/Triple H swap over. And when he went undrafted it made me a bit sad.

XL 05-16-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5614699)
Would be a bigger deal if Dolph got the love he deserves.

I dunno man, he’s the definition of “just there”. A “good hand” that can make others look great, which is something you need don’t get me wrong. He’s just had nothing in terms of character change or image change in so long.

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2023 12:57 PM

He’s not exactly in the most dynamic of slots right now, but I think the pure enhancement talent thing with him is a bit too low. Some effort should be made to shake things up with him.

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2023 12:58 PM

There are murmurs there might be a backstage movement swelling to put the World Title on AJ Styles. Good.

Lock Jaw 05-16-2023 02:55 PM

"Just there" describes 90% of the roster, including AJ Styles, which is a shame cause Styles used to be presented as special.

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2023 03:22 PM

Maybe it’s because I don’t watch every week, but AJ still impressed the shit out of me on SmackDown. So did Lashley, Rey and Edge.

XL 05-16-2023 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5614736)
"Just there" describes 90% of the roster, including AJ Styles, which is a shame cause Styles used to be presented as special.

I mean this is somewhat true and it’s fine if talent goes through periods of being “just a guy” before being heated up for something. AJ has definitely had a period of just being there. Ziggler has had such a long period of time of just being there though. They did that whole NXT Champion run a little while ago and then back to making up the numbers on the main roster.

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2023 08:30 PM

This is the lowest he’s ever been.

Lock Jaw 05-16-2023 09:38 PM

He's been this low for a few years now


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