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House of Pancakes 02-23-2005 08:08 PM

woah. fucking crazy.

Crimson 02-23-2005 08:43 PM

Wow...now all Oakland needS is to sign Lamont Jordan and get a descent QB.

Crimson 02-23-2005 08:44 PM

And ESPN has said nothing about Minnesota getting a 1st rounder in return, just Harris and a 7th , and another late round pick. LOL if they don't get the 1st round pick.

road doggy dogg 02-23-2005 08:45 PM

Uh. You realize that the 7th OVERALL PICK IN THE DRAFT = 1st round pick, right

RP 02-23-2005 08:49 PM

Man the Raiders are gunna be f'ing good next year. I'm sure they will get either Benson or the kid from Auburn who's not named after a car. Kerry Collins is still a good QB and with weapons like Moss, Porter and a rookie RB. Look the fuck out! One more team for my Colts to worry about in the AFC.

BCWWF 02-23-2005 09:07 PM

I don't quite understand whats going on, if Fowler goes to McCombs and says "Don't trade Moss", can he take it back, or is it already set and is just waiting? From what the agent is saying though, Moss is excited for Oakland (for god knows why?), so it might be no good anyway.

Into the Black 02-23-2005 10:07 PM

:wave: Alphabean

Your team is really taking the dive isn't it? *AND* Tice is still your head coach.

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 10:11 PM

You're over the cap, we're 30 mil under.

You're gonna lose like half your O-line.

You still don't have any CBs.

You're gonna lose Sharper.

And you're over the cap.

So it's not like you can go nuts in free agency. :wave:

Remember the wildcard game? That was awesome. Four picks. :love:

BCWWF 02-23-2005 10:18 PM

Who is into the black? Some Packers fan? How did you know this in advance?

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
Who is into the black? Some Packers fan? How did you know this in advance?

He's the resident douchebag cheesehead at Rajah's.

road doggy dogg 02-23-2005 10:46 PM

Good, you two argue while we know who the real beast of the NFC North is.


:shifty:

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 10:48 PM

Chicago.

road doggy dogg 02-23-2005 10:49 PM

Dude they released Jonathan Quinn. They're going NOWHERE this season.

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 10:56 PM

Gus Frerotte will lead them to the promised land.

The Icon of Elisim 02-23-2005 10:59 PM

Detroit is looking really good next year, and by next year I mean Madden 2005

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 11:03 PM

Hahaha unless fucking Wiggins is 90 and Burleson is 93, and Pep is 99, then I dunno. :wavesad:

Shame about Joey Harrington being a piece of trash.

BCWWF 02-23-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg
Good, you two argue while we know who the real beast of the NFC North is.


:shifty:

At first I thought he meant Green Bay, but now that I think about it its probably the Lions, and realistically the Lions should be #2 in the NFC North, and they have potential to break out and be even better.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-23-2005 11:32 PM

Vikings are going to end up better off with Moss gone next season, watch

BCWWF 02-23-2005 11:33 PM

without*

Right?

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-23-2005 11:34 PM

No

Crimson 02-23-2005 11:39 PM

Yea Vikings will do ok too I think. They could sign Burress, and draft for defense. Raiders now have a bunch of egos, they will be a mess next yr.

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 11:42 PM

No, see. If all the good players go in the draft right away, then this trade will go down as the worst in history, hands down. Napoleon Harris? Please. We could have gotten farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better for Moss. McCombs is a piece of shit.

Crimson 02-23-2005 11:48 PM

With the 7th pick you could draft Derrick freakin Johnson. He is a man, defenite impact LB . Or even Antrel Rolle alongside Winfield.

The Outlaw 02-23-2005 11:50 PM

RAIDERS

Gonna be nasty

AlphaBean 02-23-2005 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson
With the 7th pick you could draft Derrick freakin Johnson. He is a man, defenite impact LB . Or even Antrel Rolle alongside Winfield.

OMG we could get Antrel and Samari and pull the old "Conquistadors" switcheroo. Have #30 and 38 so that they can be mixed up or something. :love:

Jerichoholic 02-24-2005 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaBean
No, see. If all the good players go in the draft right away, then this trade will go down as the worst in history, hands down. Napoleon Harris? Please. We could have gotten farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better for Moss. McCombs is a piece of shit.

Seems to be a reoccuring trend.

HERSCHELL WALKER :love:

#1-norm-fan 02-24-2005 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaBean
Chicago.

:yes:

The Gooch 02-25-2005 11:26 AM

No matter which way you slice it the Vikes got hosed on the trade. Draft picks are always a gamble. Some kids play great in college and do fuck all in the NFL. No matter what kind of a headcase Moss may be, trading arguably the best receiver in the league for an average player and a gamble is just plain stupid. Sure they freed up some cash, but in my opinion that cash was being pretty well spent. Even as a Packers fan I must admit I am disappointed.

AlphaBean 02-25-2005 05:52 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Red McCombs and Al Davis are friends.

There has to be an explanation why Red did such a horrible thing. Moss WAS the Vikings. :(

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-25-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaBean
Moss WAS the Vikings. :(

That's the problem, banking so much on one player is bad news. Teams that don't do that win, aka Patriots, Eagles, Steelers etc

Gonzo 02-25-2005 07:31 PM

I will laugh when the Vikings do better without him.

AlphaBean 02-25-2005 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
That's the problem, banking so much on one player is bad news. Teams that don't do that win, aka Patriots, Eagles, Steelers etc

I'd rather have Vince Carter healthy dropping dunks all over the place, than having the Detroit Pistons, from an owner's standpoint.

AlphaBean 02-25-2005 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo
I will laugh when the Vikings do better without him.

Napoleon fucking Harris though? That's the thing. We could at least have gotten Arrington or Adalius Thomas. Dunno. Or maybe a higher draft pick than #7 so we could have gotten Braylon Edwards. But Napoleon Harris?

When Kendrell Bell and Ed Hartwell are both free agents? When Chris Claiborne wanted to move to MLB? When EJ Henderson should be at least serviceable next season?

Napoleon Harris? It boggles my mind.

There are no players in the draft with the talent Moss has. Nowhere close.

But I won't tell you that the Vikings will not do better without Moss. Last season left Pep with a chip on his shoulder. He will be MVP next season.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-26-2005 12:16 AM

Moss is wearing #18 in Oakland BTW..In case any of you where wondering

They can still get Edwards with the #7 pick probably

AlphaBean 02-26-2005 12:21 AM

That's assuming that the QBs and RBs and CBs go very high though. I really doubt Edwards will be available that low. :(

AlphaBean 02-26-2005 12:22 AM

And to save money, that faggot McCombs is probably going to trade down.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-26-2005 12:27 AM

1. San Francisco 49ers: Alex Smith probably..atleast not chance of Edwards
2. Miami Dolphins: Cedric Benson/No chance of Edwards
3. Cleveland Browns: Aaron Rodgers/Def. QB seeing how they cut Garica
4. Chicago Bears: Maybe Edwards but I doubt it
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Highly doubt a WR here, since they got Clayton last year
6. Tennessee Titans: Could go Pac-Man here since they cut Rolle, or maybe a WR since they cut one of those too...I would say they are going to get a Corner though

I would say theres a very good chance that Edwards will be around

AlphaBean 02-26-2005 12:28 AM

Bears.

Azumah/Tillman/McQuarters/Vasher

Grossman

Thomas Jones

:'(

no WRs whatsoever, and there are no DL or OL prospects worthy of that high. It will either be Edwards and Williams, and I doubt it will be Williams.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 02-26-2005 12:41 AM

Bears could go Mike Williams too though and there is a DLine prospect worthy of that high. Dan Cody of Oklahoma. Defensive end - kid is a beast. I'm not sure if the Bears are going defense again this year though after picking up Tommie Harris. I really don't know too much about the Bears or what they have. Didn't they just trade for Miami for a defensive end during the season? So who knows what they are going to do. Its tough to predict.

AlphaBean 02-26-2005 01:00 AM

Yeah they keep cutting DL though so who knows? But David Terrell and Justin Gage aren't exactly going to keep up with the WRs in the North, so I definitely see them going Edwards. UNLESS they decide not to get another Michigan receiver after Terrell was a bust. But I doubt that.

Either way, I just heard that Woodson just signed. That might put the Raiders over the cap, which might now allow the trade to go through. :eek: If that happens :rofl:

Maybe now Woodson will go on the trade, THEN it might be a good one.


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