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Funky Fly 07-10-2009 04:12 AM

When I try to think all this out, I do terrible. I try to commit new moves and tactics permanently to memory and just let reflexes and instinct take over (you don't think about breathing, do you?). The less I'm trying to deduce while playing (beyond a given feeling out period), te more likely I am to enter "The Zone" and just play well.

Kalyx triaD 07-10-2009 04:26 AM

I certainly understand 'The Zone', but I think it's more than impulse. In fact, I'd argue impulse accounts for most mistakes. If your instinct is based on outdated tactics and rigid combat structure, than your reflex will output bad decisions - however quickly they come out.

I like to think my best matches are driven by a number of micro-theories and executions than 'autopilot'. I do like your mentioning of instinct, anyway, because I believe that is very important in competitive gaming.

There's things I do in Halo 3 that I don't think about - it just happens, but only after having a theory, testing it, seeing it work, and executing until it goes into the instinct file.

Kalyx triaD 07-10-2009 04:29 AM

Essentially relying on reflex and autonomous execution should be based on practiced actions that worked for you in the past - and consistently. Conversely, actions that gave you shit should be rinsed out from your 'reflex list' (just making up terms here). And the only way to do that is to not do whatever it is you have a habit doing. You can't just stop, you have to practice playing without it. So to have good habits and reflexes that promote good decisions they must be practiced first.

Funky Fly 07-10-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2621168)
Essentially relying on reflex and autonomous execution should be based on practiced actions that worked for you in the past - and consistently. Conversely, actions that gave you shit should be rinsed out from your 'reflex list' (just making up terms here). And the only way to do that is to not do whatever it is you have a habit doing. You can't just stop, you have to practice playing without it. So to have good habits and reflexes that promote good decisions they must be practiced first.

Isn't that just I just said?

I learn it, test it, let it happen naturally and never think about it again.

Kalyx triaD 07-10-2009 08:37 PM

Shut up and let me wax technical.

RoXer 07-11-2009 12:26 AM

Gunna be up all night tonight so "holler at me"

Funky Fly 07-11-2009 05:54 AM

Roxer, was that you the first couple of fights, tonight? Didn't seem like it was you till it was your Cammy and my Zangief.

RoXer 07-11-2009 06:46 AM

Yeah was dickin around. Still looking for a solid 3rd/4th character

Funky Fly 07-11-2009 04:39 PM

Just thought of something: should we use headsets for the tourney?

Kalyx triaD 07-11-2009 05:16 PM

Why?

G 07-11-2009 06:13 PM

To hear my bitching and moaning

Super V 07-11-2009 06:39 PM

Yeah no one I've faced has really used em.

Funky Fly 07-11-2009 07:07 PM

I wanna use mine, but none of you fucks ever use them. Anyway, I'm gonna be unavailable for today for practice. I'll be on Live probably, but I'll be at my buddy's place probably busting out some drunken Rock Band before we bounce to go see UFC 100 and then hit up a house party. Stacked Saturday night.

G 07-11-2009 07:13 PM

My Stacked Saturday Night consists of a bubble bath, glass of wine and the newest Danielle Steel novel.

Super V 07-11-2009 08:20 PM

Opportunities to fight a drunk Chiszmo tonight around 11PM-ish.

Boomer 07-13-2009 12:13 PM

I'm again coming to a small realization that my stick probably needs some better parts if I ever want to execute links and such any better. Plus it would give me a fun project to work on.

Funky Fly 07-13-2009 07:41 PM

So that's why you're so accurate, you've got a stick.

I played Boomer earlier, but our connection was fucked. His Bison is pretty good but I think he's actually better with Balrog. Kept trapping me with distance. His Guile isn't bad either. Anyone who's played probably knows my 4 guys already, but I'm working on having more available for variety and specific character stoppers. Now all I need is a way to shut down Roxer's Akuma and I'm good.

Boomer 07-13-2009 08:32 PM

You were giving me some tough matchups with Bison...and you might be better at him than me. Didn't have enough of a sample size to really tell. I would have had fun playing a few more because I've always had trouble in a mirror match. And I really have trouble with Sagat-Bison matchups. I can't efficiently do pokes, and pretty much have to resort to pressuring when I am most frequently a defensive player.

With Guile, I just don't feel like he has weapons. I mean two moves and whatever combos you can muster is basically it. I still have a lot of fun with him, especially since his sonic boom can change speeds so drastically, but I definitely have a long way to go with him.

And Balrog is pretty damn new for me. I mean I've watched a lot of people play him, so thats just what I've picked up. That's a fun v. Bison matchup always.

I still wish my stick were better, but it obviously works better than a controller. Since its a square-gated joystick, charge characters are a lot easier for me to play. Cammy is about the only non-charge character I ever play.

So Funky is definitely better than me, but if I faced him some more I'm sure I could make it close.

Funky Fly 07-13-2009 09:11 PM

Hasney, I'm calling you out, man. Dunno how you stack up in this, as you are seeded above me and below Fig, but I gotta know. I say this cuz I am real close to Fignuts in terms of skill, so I feel like I should be fighting for that #4 slot.

So yeah, bring it sucka!

Funky Fly 07-13-2009 09:11 PM

Hasney, I'm calling you out, man. Dunno how you stack up in this, as you are seeded above me and below Fig, but I gotta know. I say this cuz I am real close to Fignuts in terms of skill, so I feel like I should be fighting for that #4 slot.

So yeah, bring it sucka!

G 07-13-2009 09:43 PM

LOL WOW I read through that second post before I realized it was a double post. :lol:

Funky Fly 07-13-2009 11:32 PM

Callin you out too, G. Laying down the gauntlet today, lads. :mad:

G 07-13-2009 11:34 PM

K. I will show you what being 1:75 is all about SON

RoXer 07-14-2009 12:24 AM

thecc is alright. Nothing special really. I was making a lot dumb mistakes.

thecc 07-14-2009 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2626846)
thecc is alright. Nothing special really. I was making a lot dumb mistakes.

Psh, sounds like someone's mad i got a perfect round against their akuma. ;)

Funky Fly 07-14-2009 01:35 AM

Roxy Takes akuma mad serious. I win a round and he makes sure to absolutely slaughter me the next.

thecc 07-14-2009 01:43 AM

out of the 4 times he used him i won twice.

RoXer 07-14-2009 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2626846)
dumb mistakes

Also, your jumping nonsense will be swiftly taken care of come tourney time.

Funky Fly 07-14-2009 01:54 AM

So what's up with that 6th seed? Cuz I don't see how I'm 6th when Hasney's probably not even gonna show and I'm def on par with Figburt.

Also, played Khuntry tonight. Really good control of distance and excellent poking. Never failed so many throw escapes in my life, though.

Fignuts 07-14-2009 02:39 AM

Just played funky again. Went 3-3.

Last match was my ryu vs his ken, and it went to the 5th. Should have come out with it, but I got ahead and got overconfident. Stopped playing smart and funky didn't waste the oppurtunity.

So I think jeanpunchfest is still up in the air, to determine which of us is higher up in seeding. Will have to play eachother more during the week.

But both me and funky need to play hasney, to get him out of that spot.

Fignuts 07-14-2009 02:40 AM

Also, would love to get a perfect on roxer's akuma. He must have had an off day if you could manage that.

I did get a perfect on his fei long, but that's not as tough.

RoXer 07-14-2009 03:29 AM

Hasney is better than both of you. The two of you should battle for the 5 spot.

I'm also kinda giving him the oppurtunity to get internets in order too seeing as the first 4 get a bye. He deserves it.

If he can't get it done by then then oh well.

And besides, just win your matches and everything should be hunky dorey. I kinda like how the seedings are.

Funky Fly 07-14-2009 05:04 AM

We will see...

Fignuts 07-14-2009 06:36 AM

Dunno, Roxer. Unless the gap between us and him is huge, it's not always that black and white.

Sometimes people match up with eachother differently.

Also, don't forget we went almost match for match, last time we fought. So if you're comparing him to yourself first, remember I'm not THAT far behind you.

Super V 07-14-2009 07:29 AM

RoXer and thecc, apologies for the sudden exit. Now thoughts on my fights with thecc:

He is good. Damn good IMO. But I think he gets too comfortable when he's dominating someone, either that or my clutch is just way better than I ever imagined (even I marked out for myself when I got that awesome comeback on our first fight). Also plays a unique hit & run atyle (you'd know what I meant if you ever played him.)

RoXer 07-14-2009 09:05 AM

Fignuts and Funky are not better than me seeing as how I was testing characters for my 3rd and 4ths most of the time.

I believe the gap is big enough for Hasney to be ranked higher than both of you. But if he hasn't been practicing, I dunno.

I'm not giving in to the thecc hype. He might get 5th seed. Not 4th though.

I WILL RESEED LATER TONIGHT FOR THE LAST TIME. PRobably after I play a few matches tonight. ANd then I'll even post brackets and we can get moving.

G 07-14-2009 09:06 AM

I take it that when it's time to actually fight, no one is gonna stop playing and tell me how to do moves and shit.

Fignuts 07-14-2009 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2627425)
Fignuts and Funky are not better than me seeing as how I was testing characters for my 3rd and 4ths most of the time.

I believe the gap is big enough for Hasney to be ranked higher than both of you. But if he hasn't been practicing, I dunno.

I'm not giving in to the thecc hype. He might get 5th seed. Not 4th though.

I WILL RESEED LATER TONIGHT FOR THE LAST TIME. PRobably after I play a few matches tonight. ANd then I'll even post brackets and we can get moving.

what? thought we were doing this, this weekend?

Fignuts 07-14-2009 09:07 AM

G, you are a horrible shark.

Kalyx triaD 07-14-2009 09:16 AM

Give me time to get my damn Gold Ranger Card. Some of us have school and shit.


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