I don’t know why people are convinced advertisers care that much about 300k 47 year old white nerds. I mean, that’s a big Meltzer work to make them look good, but it is going to be funny as they have birthdays and move into the 50+ demo and suddenly Meltzer says it’s important to grow that.

475k for Rampage. Glad to see people tuned in for the CM Punk announcement and what MJF would do next.

LOL, from 1.1 million to 475,000 in 9 months, Phillip such a proven draw!

But yes, 1.48 million — a whole million more than this — is a record low.

for wwe

Needing to beat them with their own ratings is a pretty big self-own.

Not at all, but noting a record low for their product is something "to note" to those who care

Also of note would be if they were to set all time highs.

939,000 for Dynamite.

It’s lower? But how? They shot that hot angle last week. At least it isn’t in as bad shape as Raw.

I thought for sure the return of megastar cultural icon Wheeler Yuta's return woukd have pulled in at least 14 million, what happened?

Great number, AEW continuing strong!

:lol:

1.69 million for RAW

No you have it wrong. Wheeler isn't a megastar "per say" but he is a mega star in the mind of Tony Kahn so if you'd like to play into his work of imaginary you can choose to ride hard for Wheeler Yuta, the next Lex Luger!

761k for Dynamite, #2 for the night


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Lmao

Forbidden Door, Forbidden Ratings

Maybe Vince paid another $3 million to Neilson to have AEW's numbers lowered

I think, realistically, to judge this cross-promotion, you’ve got to wait until the numbers are doing what I want them to do.

This was a special episode too, wasn’t it?

Oof.

What were they up against this week?

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Seth Rollins LOVES when ratings for Dynamite come out!

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills by the looks of it.

It’s hard to feel sorry for them.

Tony Khan after he sees this week's ratings:


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Tony Khan does have a lot in common with the Desperate Housewives, beyond leading with their emotions. They’re at the same level as bookers and none of them can properly blink their eyes.

Tony has alot in common with the Real Housewives actually. They all like to spend other people's money.

331,000 for Rampage

Lmao

You beat me to posting this. Even the most hardcore followers of this are saying “Ok yeah that’s bad…”

This crossover thing has not been working for AEW. I don’t know if it’s helping New Japan any. It didn’t help Impact. But this is hurting AEW even if you considered their meek numbers impressive for whatever reason.

The handling of Punk’s injury versus the handling of Cody’s is also very exposing. Bryan has been off. The risky thing with bringing in stars, even if you misuse them, is that fans get used to them and miss them when they’re gone.

I don’t think anyone could argue that the product is getting either hotter or better.

the show oversaturated itself. the roster doesnt have the depth for 2 shows and neither does the booker

The booker, absolutely right. The roster, they have like 150 people lol.

doesn't matter if theyre all unfit to be on shotgun saturday night

A bummer because I prefer the one hour format for my rasslin

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AEW has already won the Friday Night War.

To be fair, Vince hit-shotted himself on to TV, might have been almost 2 hours before Rampage started but the TV audience was clearly spent after that emotional and impassioned speech. Can’t blame them for not being able to catch a third hour of wrestling on the night.

AEW is the premier brand of wrestling in the world. It’s the hot thing no matter how popular it is.

AEW is like your art house/independent movies; objectively great, critically acclaimed, unable to break through commercially.

WWE is like your Michael Bay movies; style over substance but will make bank.

Lol, nice try.

AEW is like Battlefield Earth.

The latest thing is for AEW fans to defend the lack of depth to the New Japan crossover with telling people to Google someone if they don’t understand them or their motivations. I don’t think they understand that this sort of dense presentation hurts the accessibility of the product though — which is part of what you’re seeing impact the ratings. They’re labelling the fans who don’t bite into this product with a lack of story as “casuals” and CM Punk has given them permission to say that casuals don’t exist and aren’t desirable.

You have AEW defenders literally saying things like “Fuck the casuals.” It’s insane levels of gatekeeping and a great way to be left with a base that isn’t going to be able to justify your product having a platform.

Hardcore AEW fanboys are increasingly leaning on metrics they think make them look good — for example, ticket sales for shows like Forbidden Door. The evidence definitely suggests that these shows are scooped up by scalpers and possibly AEW themselves and the sellout doesn’t measure genuine interest. Forbidden Door tickets are listed on the secondary market for as little as $15.

878,000 for Dynamite

So now we know the stunning combo of AEW and ROH and NJPW cannot get 1 million viewers, time for Tony to to reach into daddy's pocket again :rofl:

#1 on cable again! Nice!

I thought this shit was supposed to be hot? Do people even bother defending it anymore?

I thought it was supposed to be dead already? Doubly so after the move to TBS right??








GUYS?

Much easier to shoot down straw men.

oh dang. got me there.

Sure did. Gotta mask those insecurities in lies. Also, imagine survival being your biggest bragging point.

lolwut.


seriously man, i don't even watch aew weekly. i really do not care as much as you project i do.

Does WWE still crack a million?

Honestly Rampage should have never existed.

Then why lie? Did anyone actually predict they would be dead right now? I think everyone with common sense knew the TBS move where they will be replacing a more popular show than them would hurt, but who has legitimately predicted their death?

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They’re under a fifth of the alleged viewership, but make no mistake about it — they are winning this war.

sorry, i got that from the smart people forum

?

I don’t think that’s the comeback you think it is.

But hey, cool to work out you were lying.

man im such a lying liar. i have a guilty filthy soul and dunno how i will ever recover.




i shall start with doing the dance of shame for the rest of my life. :(

Very clever. If you lie on the ground screaming, no one can kick you, right?

feel free to kick, if that's what you wanna do

I feel like I should go after a stronger target. But seriously, what pathetic apologetics for them. Why the need to defend these guys with lies?

i wasnt aware i was defending shit.


You should go for a target who actually cares man.

:lol:

1.95 million for the 20 year Cena celebration ep of RAW

Surprised Smackdown still gets 2.2 mill.

That’s fucking huge. Got no clue whether or not they got a good show and will be back.

That’s down on the week isn’t it? Cena = ratings poison.

I think it’s up about 300k.

Nah. Down 36k.

It mustn’t have been mentioned in here. Makes sense that people only want to talk about WWE’s “low numbers” versus AEW’s greatest achievements. Holy shit at WWE getting back to 2 million for Raw. Meanwhile AEW struggles to reach 900k without a third hour.

It wasn’t mentioned here so you just assumed it was up 300k?

Is that what was reported on the smart people forum?

It’s usually only slik that’s posts the WWE rating. No commentary. Just the cold hard facts. Or as much as you can call them facts from an outdated, outmoded system. He just didn’t post last week.

It’s their 4th best rating of the year (albeit not quite 2 million).

Wait til Dynamite gets that third hour! 3 mil a week guaranteed.

The last number I could recall is 1.68 million, or something like that. Must have been from two weeks ago. The Cena announcement has seemed to boost ticket sales and the general interest around the product. It might not be onwards and upwards each week, but 2 million for Raw in 2022 is really good for them.

I wonder just how disastrous a third hour would be for Dynamite? I kind of facetiously point out that Rampage is in that third hour slot, but it’s on a different night. A third hour with Dynamite as its own lead-in would be interesting to see.

On one hand, they’ve got that hardcore audience that could will themselves through. But on the other hand — let’s be honest, it’s death.

Back over a million post NJPW


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I’m genuinely surprised they managed to get over that magic 1 million number. I mean, it’s a pitiful number in context, but a boost is a boost, right? Onwards and upwards for the most popular wrestling in the world!

Makes sense. The build to forbidden door stunk and they didn’t get the biggest name till the go home show.

Ugh, the coverage is irritating. You’ve got Thurston pointing out that they were #1 in 18-49 for original programming according to Showbuzz. This ignores a whole bunch of stuff on cable, like The Big Bang Theory before it, which destroys it. But he has to go further than that and group it in with network television, and point out that it was #6 if you count that. So it basically got beaten by NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX? Why smudge that in there? So much effort to make something unimpressive sound impressive. I’m glad more and more people are starting to see through this shit.

1.2 for the Blood and Guts hour, so as long as they can put on that kind of match every week they might be able to keep it going. They can do 6v6 special gimmick matches where people take hella bumps, blade, and get injured every week, right?

Hey man I'd recommend you watch a 3 hour episode of WWE raw if you like to see very safe matches with absolutely no blading and very few bumps!

Don’t forget about watching the same guys wrestle each other every week and trading wins!

theres an art to putting on a compelling matches with minimal bumps. i dont concede that the greater the bump count the better the match. if thats true then the bucks should be drawing trillions

Yeah that rating has nothing to do with NJPW and everything to do with the B&G match, which isn’t sustainable. Whether they did a good enough job with the show to get people to come back next week will be interesting but I’d expect them to be back below the million next Wednesday.

Probably a similar story for Raw. A boost from everything going on with McMahon (was his appearance announced?) and from Cena’s rerun but I’d be surprised if they deliver 1.9m next week, though it is MITB this weekend so if they deliver something compelling off the back of that, maybe.

Agreed

Don’t be negative — AEW is taking over soon, alright?

Bingo.

I can’t wait for Dynamite’s 1 million to beat Raw’s 2 million this week.

Sweet, is Dynamite having a themed Dynamite special with a 1 hour 12 man gimmick match with a held down by the Fed Wrestler debuting, with blading and torn ACL's and 15 foot bumps this week again? You said they are getting a million, so I can only assume the answer is yes.

Oh wait, they did that last week, didn’t they? So the next one won’t be until next week. My bad.

That 3rd hour...no match for fireworks

1.56 million average

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Kind of surprised Wimbledon doesn't do bigger numbers

Predictably, AEW is back under 1 million.

Haven’t even seen the rating but the fact that Noid didn’t bother to mention it and could only spin it as “back under a million” makes me think it was actually a pretty small drop from Blood and Guts.

Eh, it was on live at 8am, I presume, and averaged over 1 million viewers across a 486 minute window on 4th July.

AEW got fewer viewers than a hot dog eating contest on at 4 in the afternoon.

To be fair to AEW though, the hot dog eating contest was only an hour. Ratings may have dropped if it had gone into the second hour with an extra sauerkraut round.

This isn’t even satire anymore. Next week will be FyterFest. Part 1. In 4 weeks we’ll get Fight for the Fallen. Then it will be All Out. Then it will be Grand Slam. Then it will be an anniversary show. Then it will be Brodie Lee’s memorial show. Then it will be Winter is Coming. Then it will be Bash at the Beach in Winter for Season’s Reasons.

Guy’s even coming back and quoting his own old posts as an excuse to try to bury inconvenient truths. Jesus.

Horrible show this week. They'll be lucky to break 900,000 next week

Was I right guys? I mean I don't remember any of that on Dynamite last night, but I was right, they still got over a million again, right? Guys?