So, JT player of the year, Rooney young player

Team Of The Year

Petr Cech
Ashley Cole
Rio Ferdinand
John Terry
Gary Neville
Arjen Robben
Steven Gerrard
Frank Lampard
Shaun Wright-Phillips
Andy Johnson
Thierry Henry

Can't argue with the front 6, Terry or the keeper, but Neville, Ferdinand and Ashley Cole just seem like "we'll put the most recognizable name in there" I'm sure there have been better players in those positions this season, Carragher ahead of Ferdinand for a start.

Having thought about it, I'd give the positions to Paulo Ferreria, Jamie Carragher and Gabriel Heinze

Sid, I agree fully. Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand and Ashley Cole have been nothing short of average by their own standards, Heinze, Carragher and Ferreira deserve it.

Darren, what are your thoughts on tonights north London derby?

Your an idiot Gooner, you have now set me off on one...

That I hope the Yid Army wins, so that we can rest players Vs Bolton on the weekend and be fitter for Liverpool away then Liverpool will be.

It's my mates birthday today, which has ruined everything, me and a few Chelsea fans were gunna go watch the game and if Arsenal don't win, we were gunna try and get into the club in our Chelsea shirts. Now I have to go to the Union with my mate who'se birthday it is and some other mates to watch it, I am gunna try and get some Chelsea fans to come, I might dance on the tables ECG's mates style.

Then get into my suit, off to the Casino and then a posher nightclub were I can't really celebrate as I'd have liked.

For selfish reasons I hope Arsenal win, but for Chelsea reasons I want Spurs to win. Although I'd also rather we won the league Vs Bolton, and not that you lost the league Vs Spurs, so it's like there are many pro's and cons to both.

THERE, you just had to ask.

If you meant thoughts on the score, then 3-1 Arsenal is what I am thinking.

I agree with Sid.

Samsung are apparently going to be our new sponsors, in a deal that will eclipse the £9million United get from Vodafone a year. Should be announced officially later today.

I meant the first thing. I assumed you'd want to win the league rather than us lose it

Both have it's advantages, if we didn't have the Champions League on Wednesday week, I'd want you to win tonight and us to win it on Saturday, but seeing as we have the Champions League, any which way we can win it suits me. I bet you win and we lose to Bolton :(.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/4480421.stm

Ferguson makes me laugh these days, he's losing the plot and coming up with every excuse in the world to stay away from one fact.....his team isn't as good as it used to be, and he just doesn't have the same impact on his players anymore.

Really? That makes no sense at all, United are still a bigger team around the world why would you be worth more from a sponsors point of view

Sponsors get behind sides that win.

With the way Chelsea are plastered across the news, likely to win a trophy a season AT LEAST, they are well on there way to clawing back the money they have spent, because they are a dream for sponsors. You want to be associated with winners.

http://www.chelseafc.com/article.asp...onsor&nav=news

No figures are reveilved but thats the story and a pic of next years kit.

I agree that Heinze and Carragher should replace Cole and Ferdinand in that team, but i'd have Tony Hibbert at right back as he's been pretty solid and Everton deserve some recognition.

Yeah I like Hibbert too, he is very underrated.

Hibbert is shocking, he gets beaten by every decent player he comes up against

Robben should have got young player of the year.

Love the Spurs fans chanting at the Arse "Your Support is Fucking Shit"

What the fuck, Reyes was just getting treatment and they cut to a roof cam of the field.

Why can't they always use that angle?

Arsenal ended up winning 1-0, decent game i suppose, Reyes probably should have had a hat-trick and Robbie Keane really should have equalised.

Losing the plot? Far from it mate. The fact is, we should have had some blatant penalties in the last few games and didn't get them. No big deal though. It happens. If you expect Alex Ferguson or any manager in fact to come out public and say his team isn't as good as it used to be then I think it's you that is losing the plot.

I bet my brother £20 at the start of the season that Alan Smith would out score Jose Reyes this season. I think Reyes is one up on him right now. I still think Smith will beat him. Reyes could play every minute for the rest of the season and he still won't score another goal. They should ship him off to Valladolid or Betis or something asap. Real Madrid? Kid is having a bubble.

That wasn't a penalty against Newcastle for sure. I haven't kept tabs on United recently, but suffice to say, if you should've had penalties and didn't get them....its about time.

Also, I never said he should come out and say his team isn't as good as it used to be, I'm just saying he's coming up with every excuse in the book to try and hide the fact that you aren't as good.

I do think he's losing the plot, with the resources United have and the team they have, they should not have had as bad a season as they are having, and Ferguson is become a bigger whiner than he's ever been. Not to mention he has been fairly tactically inept at times this season, his simple belief is that to win games you've got to shove 5 strikers on the pitch, and it hasn't worked.

That was a blatant penalty against Newcastle. He gave us a free kick for tugging on Alan Smith outside the box mintues later and there was nowhere near as much contact. Same ref also didn't give us a blatant penalty against Chelsea in the Carling Cup at the Bridge (should have had another at OT too). Ferguson is saying since Rooney's dive against Arsenal, we ain't been getting shit because of it. It's clearly mind games but he has a point. I wouldn't say he has been tactically inept, more like our players haven't performed when needed. Aside from Ferdinand, Heinze, Ronaldo and Rooney (and probably Smith when he has played), all the players need to have a closer look at themselves.

Refs have realised that Ronaldo is a diving cunt, otherwise you'd have more penatlies.

Zees sings even zemzelves out over ze course of ze zeazon [/RBF's Wenger impression]

What he said.

A bad season. They'd lost 2 games in the league before their recent bad run. One of those on the first day of the season to Chelsea when United had a starting 11's worth of international players out.

Chelsea being so brilliant has made everyone look bad. Any normal year, Arsenal and Manchester United's league records would have them pushing for the title.

I know what you're saying but if Chelsea raise the bar Arsenal and Man U have to follow. Its all relative to Chelsea nowadays. Being good enough to win a championship last season doesn't exactly mean shit when your 15 points behind Chelsea this season.

Fergie could have spent his money more wisely IMO, he didn't plan on buying Rooney till this summer originally, and it was only Newcastle's attempt to sign him that changed that.

So how come he didn't spend any of that £27 million he had last summer on other players in positions he needed them, namely a centre back and another central midfielder.

Also, to think that he was going to go through this season with just Saha, Smith and RvN attacking is stupid, considering just how much they have needed Rooney.

Fergie bollocksed this season up for himself.

Likewise with Wenger, he hasn't seemed to have built his team like he could have, if he has an 'unbeatable' team last season why not get a couple of players in where back-up is needed and keep going. Surely the board would have given him a little bit of money to help them stay the best in the country, he must have known that Chelsea were going to be a very serious threat.

We maye have been great this season, but I think it was the summer signing by the other two that mattered, if Arsenal really didn't have any money then fair enough, but United certainly did and they weren't going to use it.

Exactly.

Man for man, United have as good a side as Chelsea, but they are not playing anything like they should. I've seen United play brilliantly once this season. They've had good games, but aside from the Arsenal game, I don't remember seeing them playing exceptionally. They've had great individual performances at times, but as a TEAM, they are lacking. The very fact that they have gone on this shit run indicates that.

Ok, they've got to the FA Cup Final and they are third in the league. They hardly excelled in the Champions League, and they haven't been great in the league, I think United themselves would say they've had a bad season.

As for injuries, Chelsea have had shit loads of injuries and have coped, Arsenal have had shit loads of injuries and coped fairly well, injuries are always an easy excuse for sides not playing well. Liverpool have had loads of injuries this season, but the simple fact is, the replacements are not good enough, and thats down to the manager to sort out.

Also, I find it funny that Harry Redknapp has said "I Won't Be Leaving Southampton, even if they go down"

Think we've heard things like that before...

of course he won't, who else will have him?

Yeah, they have to follow and undoubtedly they will, but United were effectively behind in the title race from their first 5 matches, when they gave themselves a large gap to chase. There was little they could do about that with the injuries, Ferdinand's suspension etc. that afflicted the side.

Chelsea's record this season will be the best ever seen, probably, in terms of points and especially goals conceded. Three teams simply cannot have that kind of form in one season, and Chelsea will struggle to repeat it next year.

The delaying of the Chelsea trip to Old Trafford also was a big factor, because if it had taken place in January when United were in brilliant form and had a reasonable hope of catching Chelsea, it could have been a different story.

Ferguson had no way of knowing that Van Nistelrooy would get injured for 3 months, and not continue his unbelievable scoring record for United, or that Saha would basically spend the entire year out with various knee injuries.

Fact is, their problem hasn't been in midfield or defence, but their strikers. The goals scored column tells the story, and the amount of games United should have won by 3, 4 or 5 goals, given the chances they had, is ridiculous. If they'd won those games, they'd be ahead of Chelsea.

The boys on the pitch didn't take the chances they got. Not Ferguson's fault.

Bollocks, you know it, you need four fit strikers or you are asking for it, you have to anticipate two strikers being out at once, three is unlucky, but you have to anticapte two. Without Rooney they were relying on the others being fit.

RvN has a year or two years out the game with an injury, and Fergie thinks that he will never get injured again?

Bore off mate, Fergie fucked it up.

Don't be stupid. 3 strikers is enough, especially considering they only play one main striker anyway. You only need 4 if you're playing 2 up, United don't. Smith and Rooney can fill in at midfield or drop deeper, Saha and RVN are both adept at playing up on their own.

Seriously, you do talk some shite at times.

I don't think so at all, I am excluding Rooney from the list here as we are talking about if they didn't sign Rooney as they weren't going to originally. Saha was brought in because he was eligable for the Champions League and they desperatley needed a striker, he is nowhere near good enough for Man United. Smith is always likely to get some suspensions, Fergie was originally going to go into the season with three strikers, and hope they could all suite the 1 up front and at least two were always available.

I think Fergie was going to take a big risk with only three attackers, Smith will never be good enough to be a lone striker I don't think, he can battle but he just isn't a target man, other then when O'Brien fouled him I can hardly remember being in a good position.

They were going to have two real target men, and Saha isn't good enough, plain and simple, so he relies on RvN to stay fit. When drogba is injured we still have Duff and Robben banging in goals because they can make the runs and finish it, Giggs and Ronaldo don't do it.

You surely must agree with this:
Saha isn't good enough and was brought in in January as a qucik fix solution
Fergie relies too heavily on RVN
Smith isn't a target man and was never going to suit the one up front
Bobby Robson going for Rooney was what brought Rooney to United this season.

The above four show Fergie fucked it right up, IMO.

I agree that Saha isn't good enough, and he'll be sacrificed this summer. United did rely a lot on RVN, but I don't know about too heavily. Most seasons they could expect Giggs and Scholes to weight in with a few goals, and Scholes can also play up front off someone else.

Smith is a target man, and he's extremely good at it. Brilliant in the air, brilliant first touch, ball sticks to him. He's excellent at winning and keeping possession. I am a big fan of his and I think if he was given a run in a side, he'd get 15-20 goals a season, easy.

And yes, Newcastle going for Rooney is why he ended up at United. However, I don't see how that is evidence of Fergie fucking anything up. I just don't see your logic here.

How can you not see the logic there? I thought it's blindingly obvious, because without Rooney they would been alot worse this season, and Fergie didn't want him for this season so it was due to Bobby Robson wanting him that he is even there right now. Whatsmore is that is he had a spare £27million floating around he could have brought in some more players.

I like Smithy, I think he will be great, but I don't think he is good as the lone striker, I have never seen hm as the type who can get his head to the ball or take it down, he has good control but I can't see him being able to shake off defenders.

I haven't seen too much of him this season, and I hate to base it on two games but the Newcatle game showed he isn't a great target man, and the game against Aston Villa on the 28th December is the time I realised he should be feeding a striker, and he was good at moving the ball around, they should play Giggs and Ronaldo wide, and Keane, Scholes and either Smith or Rooney as the centre midfielders but with Smith and Rooney playing extremley attacking, and either RvN or Rooney up front.

And to not think Fergie relies on RvN too much is stupid, as like I am going to have to say yet again they didn't intend on having Rooney this season.

Dazz - We had Forlan at the start of the season as 4th striker before any Rooney bid. Once he was in, Diego was gone.

Also, we didn't have £27 million to spend in the summer. We had the £7 million for Smith and £6.7 million for Henize. Rooney was this summer's budget. If there was no Rooney this season, there would be nobody at all.

Again, we haven't really had a bad season. Chelsea have just been the dogs bollocks.

BTW isn't Forlan like the top scorer in Spain. Does Dazz still think that he's crap?

I don't see your logic Dazz because you're claiming Fergie fucked up by buying a player he should have bought.

At worst, you could say it turned out he was lucky to have signed Rooney, since the other lads got injured, but saying he "fucked up" by making a good signing is a bit ridiculous.

As Rob said, they had Forlan, so I'm assuming Fergie thought his strikers could struggle on, since there was nothing really wrong in the goals department last season for United, it was their defence. They strengthened their defence with Heinze, and their attack with Smith, and even those two in United's squad from last season looked like very good additions at the time.

Every point you are making is with the absolute benefit of hindsight. With hindsight, if Rio Ferdinand hadn't missed that drugs test a year and a half ago, I think Manchester United would have been league champions last season. But that's the way things go.

Come on, it was clear that Fergie was never going to play Forlan this season, why not name Bellion too. Mine isn't in hindsight, it's when you consider likely outcomes, players are inevitabally going to get injured, especially someone who has had lengthy injuries in the past.

Fergie not signing another centre back in January showed again that it's him fucking things up why they lose the title.

And you clearly don't understand what I mean about Rooney, ECG, I am saying that United wouldn't have got him this season if Newcastle hadn't gone for him, I.E Fergie didn't want Rooney for this season, yet he has been invaluable, is it really that hard to understand ECG, That Fergie didn't want him this season, he was going to wait a year for no reason.

Rob - Saying no-one takes United over before the next season starts, I am sure you are going to make some signing, you will still have money earnt through prize money and season ticket revenue, TV deals ect. To say it's your whole of this seasons budget is down right stupid.

legendkiller, where have I ever said Forlan was shit? Find me a quote or jog on.

David Gill (I think that's his name) has been quoted as saying Rooney was this coming season's transfer budget, Rob's not exaggerating (for once :p )

That said people like Saha and Kleberson will most likely be shipped out, so the money will most likely come from there. There's also a chance this fucking takeover saga will have a conclusion sometime before 2945 so there might be some spending money there also.

You're talking stupid. Of course itis hindsight: there's no way you can legislate for two of your top strikers to spend huge amounts of time injured, throughout the whole season. It'd be fucking stupidity to buy players based on the idea that two of them in one position might get injured for several months at a time.

RVN having a knee problem really doesn't indicate at all that he would have injured his calf. Most players these days recover fully from crucriate ligament injuries and don't see a problem with the knee again.

You always take me down these meaningless, moronic alleyways of football discussion, Dazz.

I have to say I'm with ECG on this whole Rooney thing Dazz just wtf is your point? That Fergie didn't want him but bought him anyway and thats fucked them up?? Yet you also say that he's been great this season so seem to contradict yourself.

I rate Smith he was doing great earlier this season then got dropped pretty much as soon as Rooney got fit which was unfortunate. He's not the most natural goalscorer but as has been mentioned before he's a good target man and certainly good enough for the Man U squad - even if I think he is a cock. Saha on the other hand should move on. Forlan was shit at Man U and anyone saying otherwise is delerious. He can be a good player but to be honest I haven't seen him play in Spain or Argentina or wherever he was before so I can only judge him on his Man U performances where he was crap.

I know Chelsea have been great this season but to be honest they are such a great side I honestly don't know that they will find it any more difficult next year. Effectively they've won this season without a world class striker at a canter. You can argue all you want about Gudjohnsen and Drogba being good but I don't think anyone (including Dazz) could call them World Class. If they had a Shevchenko or someone in that veinm and lets be honest they could afford them then next season could be just as comfortable. They have already said that they will improve the squad further with Geremi and Parker probably on the list of people out, add Gerard and a top class striker and how any team is going to touch them is beyond my reckoning.

And I think the injuries excuse is branded around too much by everyone. Even Chelsea have had their injuries this year so saying Man U lost it purely because of injury to RVN or whoever is akin to saying Arsenal lost it because they didn't have Gilberto or Campbell fit for long periods. Nice to say but at the end of the day even with them I doubt either Man U or Arsenal would have got close to Chelsea this season.

Also apart from the RVN and Saha what bad injuries have Man U had this season? This isn't a diss just I really can't remember :$

I don't think Chelsea will find it so easy next season. The nucleus of that side has been around a while, so although they have always been very good players, they've come together this season in a superb run of form. I really don't think they'll keep that run of form up.

Think back to Arsenal of last season and the first half of this season, and it was tough to imagine them being beaten by anyone this season, never mind finishing to the order of 11 points behind Chelsea (as the case may be). No team is invincible, and they can only field 11 players. If they bring in big stars, it might upset their crucial team spirit and work ethic.

For example, as their form for England clearly shows, Lampard and Gerrard cannot really function in the same midfield together. They both do the same job, effectively, and one has to surrender to the other for the other to be effective.

Added to that, teams will figure out a way to play Chelsea. It always happens.

Not saying they won't still be a great team, or that they won't win the league, just that they will find things a lot harder next season.

And I never said injuries were an excuse for Manchester United, I said their problem was scoring goals in matches they should have won by miles. I was just making the point to Dazz that Ferguson couldn't have imagined two of his main strikers would end up injured for long stretches.

At the very start of the season, United had Heinze and Ronaldo at the Olympics, Ferdinand suspended, Rooney injured, Scholes injured, Van Nistelrooy injured, Saha injured and numerous other problems. They really handicapped themselves by having a very slow start to the season which meant they were always playing catch-up.

Geremi and Smertin will go, Parker will stay.

Pact Up, you misinterpreted what I said about Rooney, I am saying that Fergie **WOULD** have royally fucked it up by waiting until the end of this season to get Rooney. He has been great, but he is still meant to be at Everton until the end of this season, without Rooney I am prepared to say that United's season would have been a disaster.

ECG, you might not think you will have two injured strikers, but you do have to be prepared for it, Arsenal have got Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes, Van Persie and Allideire, they have sufficient back-up. United had people who weren't performing such as Forlan and Bellion as their other back up. Without Rooney this season they would have had two really good strikers, and three average ones (if Forlan had stayed). That's the difference, that United din't have enough back up if their best strikers got injured.

I cannot believe no one see's this Rooney arguement though, Fergie didn't fucking want him this season, do you lot not fucking understand something so simple??!! It was Newcastle wanting him that made them get him, for fuck sake he wasn't going to be there this season, meaning Fergie would have fucked things up entriely like he tried to do. He should be kissing Bobby Robson's wrinkley white-haired arse right now.

Ridiculous.

:foc:

How exactly do you know how United would have played without Wayne Rooney? Smith would have got a longer run in the team, RVN might not have gotten injured and Forlan could have had the same run of form he is on in Spain for us. You just don't know.

As for back up strikers, we didn't have enough back up LAST season, nevermind this season.

RvN would have got injured regardless, Forlan was never going to be given more of a chance from Fergie, alright I don't *KNOW* but it's my opinion, and I am sure no one can deny it, that Wayne Rooney has made a huge impact on the team, and has done a shitload for them, him,Keane and Heinze have been United's three best players, Ronaldo fourth I'd say.

YES, beat the sheep to pretty much guarantee safety :love:

PSV were very unlucky to lose that game, let alone by 2 goals.

PSV are twats, Park is fucking awful, absolute rubbish. Has anyone told Van Bommell that shooting right at the keeper is one of the hardest ways of scoring a goal.

At the start of the game I said to my mate I wish I stuck a few quid on it being 2-0 to Milan, needless to say I was annoyed when the final whistle went.

I don't mind about getting Rooney as early as we did. I think the plan was to wait so his price would drop, though Newcastle fucked that up for us.

Same with Ronaldo, we wanted him to stay at Sporting until this season. It's just how things work out. Like when Fergie went in for David Hirst, only he wasn't for sale so we got Cantona instead. Just luck, I suppose.

I disagree on Saha being shit though. He showed promise early on until it turned out he is made of glass. I'd be glad to see the back of him but not because he's shit.

He's not shit, he's just not particularly great. Definitely not worth the money paid, and his place in the squad could be better used.

I think Kleberson is a great player, but we'll not see the best of him at Manchester United. He'll probably be out this summer. He'll be quality given a run in a side without injuries.

No one said that Saha is shit, just that he is not good enough for you.

I don't see anything in Kleberson personally.

He's a class act. Brilliant passer of the ball, very industrious when he is fit. I thought he looked quality at the World Cup. The Brazilians rate him very highly too. Just had a very bad run of luck since moving to United.

He didn't have long Vs Newcastle but I thought he looks comfortable and don't remember him making any mistakes.

Park isn't shit Dazz.
I didn't watch the game tonight so I can't say much about his performance but this season he has been awesome for PSV in games I've watched on channel 5 and in the Champions League.

Well, tonight he had one hell of a mare

He wasn't that bad. He worked hard, put himself about, got into some good positions.

The passes through to him were hard to take in his stride.

I thought he was shit, he put himself about and got into good positions, but played shit, and is a diving cunt. Seedorf should murder him if he misses the final. Getting a booking for Park doing a blatent dive annoys the fuck out of me, the slit eye did it twice too.

Let's get in the spirit of things,

JUST LIKE SCOUSERS,
WE LOVE ROBBEN,
JUST LIKE SCOUSERS,
WE LOVE ROBBEN,
JUST LIKE SCOUSERS,
WE LOVE ROBBEN,

Can't wait for the game, getting to the ground about 1.30 for some drinking. COME ON THE BLUES.

I'm not looking forward to it at all, I just hope Rafa's got them up for it

Because Robben never dives. Either does Joe Cole.

Apart from Alonso getting banned for the second leg, get in there

Bring it on to fortress Anfield :D

Fantastic result 0-0

Steven Gerrard is utter wank. He didn't want to be on the pitch tonight, and I don't give a fuck what you do for the club, if you walk out on that pitch and barely try, you don't deserve to wear the clubs colours. Thank god Xabi and Igor were on form, as well as Carragher and Hyypia, who were all phenomenal. Also thought Cisse looked class when he came on, he's gotta start in the second leg.

We should've lost. First half we were really poor, but I honestly think we were the better side in the Second half, we just didn't look overly threatening when we got near the goal, unlike Chelsea.

Second leg is gonna be really interesting.

You are mr negative Cactus Sid, I wish you'd shut the fuck up

I always said we'd beat chelsea and now we're half way there you still moan

Give it a rest and be positive for once

Gerrard didn't have a good game but you're going overboard there Sid tbh :(

Neither side really did enough to win the game, Chelsea were probably the better of the two but they never troubled Dudek.

I'm sorry, but Steven Gerrard's performance tonight was nothing short of disgraceful in my opinion.

Aside from that, we played well, I'm not saying we didn't, but if Gerrard plays like that at Anfield, then, without Xabi, we could be in trouble.

Also....the pessimism has worked so far, dont jinx it :mad:

Let's not forget that Baros played awful too

Most of the Liverpool team was subdued we relied on the rock of Carragher (MOTM)

At the end of the day though we're at home next week, so we have to be positive

Just fucking cheer the team and I do feel we'll win it

ALONSO is my favourite player, I still feel gutted but Gerrard will work his arse off

Baros has been awful since just after Cisse got injured

Gerrard was just so poor though. He didn't even LOOK interested. He played 2 good passes all night, gave the ball away, made no challenges, didn't track back, let Gudjohnsen walk past him, and that shot he had just capped it off.

Tonight demonstrated why Carragher should've been in the team of the season, absolutely inexcusable that he isn't.

I wouldn't say the side was subdued at all. Finnan and Traore did their jobs well, Hyypia and Carragher were fantastic. Xabi and Igor were solid and Riise did a good job at times. Garcia wasn't brilliant, but he had times when he looked bright, Gerrard and Baros were just abysmal.

I'll cheer the team whether we're 5-0 up against Chelsea or 10-0 down against some Division 3 side, I just feel that Liverpool fans forget that we aren't the side we were, we are so inconsistent that its difficult for me to be optimistic about any fixture. I do think we've got a good chance in the second leg, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

Gerrard was a disgrace tonight. A real let down.

Liverpool should spark a bidding war for him between Real Madrid and Chelsea, drive his price up something ridiculous, sell Baros to whoever is stupid enough to think he was ever actually any good and do some kind of deal with Kewell, where they permanently cripple him and split the insurance money, since he's not really bothered about playing.

Then they can build a side around Xabi Alonso and Jamie Carragher.

For once I agree with you on every point

Carragher was awesome tonight, like every match.
Baros looked poor but he was up front on his own and didn't have the best of service, Gerrard had a poor match but at least he got it out of the way. Gutted about Alonso, thankyou to Gudjohnsen for getting him booked (you dick).
I thought a draw was the right result at the end of the game. Leaves it open next week, it'll be a great game and I have no idea who will win. I still see us going out on away goals or something.

Fucking fans not getting behind their team, I should knock your heads together

The Chelsea fans were dreadful tonight, compare their mild chants to Anfield next week

Gerrard will be playing for revenge, whether he goes or not this season, it's all about him

Thought Liverpool would do it before tonight but after that its gonna be Chelsea I think, Liverpool lose Alonso and Chelsea gain Duff and Robben for the second leg. Liverpool needed a goal tonight since I can't see them stoping Chelsea scoring over both legs.

Tune your hearing aid in, we weren't dreadful at all.

Makelele and Hyypia were the best players on the park tonight IMO, absolute brilliant. Drogba didn't get much service, Joe Cole is fucking greedy, doesn't he realise there's 10 others on the pitch?

Lampard tries to do too much, he should let others take corners and free kicks, he cannot do it.

Can't wait for the Anfield game, SHOULD get my ticket tomorrow

I thought Carragher was better than Hyypia but Makelele had a really good game.

Haha looks like I made the right call in sleeping.

I think they were both absolute quality, just Hyypia seemed busier.

Honestly Dazz, your lot were shit.

You could clearly hear the Liverpool fans throughout the game, the rest of the time you could've heard a pin drop.

Baros only proved to me that he is as gash as I thought he was

**coughJoeColecough**

Singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' at the end. :)

Yes, your quick, Duff and Robben to, I never said we didn't have any divers in our team, it doesn't mean I can't point out the divers in other teams, jog on you spastic, your posts are terrible.

Sorry but it must have been where the camera's or the sound mic's were positioned, we were far from shit.

Posted by some Liverpool fan on Rajah's that was at the game. We were also better then he says, but it shows were weren't silent like you lot say.

Also, Liverpool have some of the best fans in the league and constantly sing, so he is comparing us to them, which also doesn't do us any justice.

Fair play to Dazz for sticking up for his fans. I thought they sounded loud apart from the end of the game.

I always stick up for us if it's the truth, we were impressive alot I think, Dlo called it right, we just got frustrated by the end, there were a few come on Chelsea chants, other then that it was only near the end we were rubbish.

I thought Chelsea's fans weren't too bad to be fair, i agree with that lad from Rajah's, the fans pretty much matched the game, like near the end of the game when it looked as though it'd end goal-less the Chelsea fans went quiet and Liverpool fans were in full voice. At the start of the game it didn't seem as if Liverpool made much noise and it was Chelsea's fans who made a decent atmosphere.

I didn't say they were silent, way to make a good point out of nothing

I said some chanting but nothing as good as it should of been

We'll see the difference at Anfield next week :D

Right now though, it's all about middlesborough.