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James Steele 04-06-2009 01:06 AM

:lol:

Come on, that jacket was horrible.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:08 AM

IT DOESN'T MATTER. NOSTALGIA FOREVER

Damian Rey 04-06-2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2490417)
I can't believe people in this thread badmouthed Finlay's jacket. IT WAS HIS ENTRANCE ATTIRE FROM WCW YOU IGNORANT FUCKS

I instantly told my gf Finlay was rocking the throwback entrance attire.

James Steele 04-06-2009 01:11 AM

If Hornswoggle would have had one too, then it'd have been a WrestleMania monent.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:13 AM

No moment in wrestling history, aside from maybe Owen at Over the Edge, would've been better because Hornswoggle did the same thing.

Anybody Thrilla 04-06-2009 01:13 AM

So. Fucking. Disappointed.

Damian Rey 04-06-2009 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2490431)
So. Fucking. Disappointed.

Care to elaborate?

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:23 AM

oh my fucking god

Taker needs to stop doing that suicide dive

The Mask 04-06-2009 01:25 AM

i liked it for the most part, fuck you all. the last match was fucking dire though. the one before wasn't much better but i mustered a holy shit as cena lifted both big show and edge on his shoulders.

HBK + undertaker was incredible though. like i was on the edge of my seat acting like a spastic into the match. i think part of it is the fact i thought undertaker had broken his neck/paralyzed himself after the botched toprope thing. the fact he could do anything at all after that made everything he did do utterly amazing.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:28 AM

lol King "IMPOSSIBLE! IM-FREAKING-POSSIBLE!"

This match is unreal.

James Steele 04-06-2009 01:31 AM

I love JR's "out of body experience" spasm. That made the match 1000000X better...which is pretty fucking awesome. JR was "on" during that match.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:41 AM

holy jesus how do two guys in their mid 40s pull off shit like this

unfucking real

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:49 AM

alright triple threat up now

hey check out the Cena army. Doing the exact same that Eminem already did, AGAIN

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 01:59 AM

lol this is the second straight Wrestlemania that Big Show has entered as a heel and become the face mid match

James Steele 04-06-2009 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2490507)
lol this is the second straight Wrestlemania that Big Show has entered as a heel and become the face mid match

HEY REF, GET ME THE HELL OUT OF HERE!

Tazz Dan 04-06-2009 02:00 AM

Yeah, so at the risk of getting flamed here I know the HHH/Orton match was :-\, but honestly how many times has HHH won at mania over the last 10 years? He hasn't won at mania since WM19 so surely he desrves one win. Plus it's the first time in forfuckingever the Royal Rumble winner didn't win the belt at mania.

The Show Off 04-06-2009 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 2490509)
Yeah, so at the risk of getting flamed here I know the HHH/Orton match was :-\, but honestly how many times has HHH won at mania over the last 10 years? He hasn't won at mania since WM19 so surely he desrves one win. Plus it's the first time in forfuckingever the Royal Rumble winner didn't win the belt at mania.

Last year Cena lost... along with Triple H... to Randy Orton...

I completely agree with you.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 02:03 AM

VADER BOMB YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

damn he missed

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 02:06 AM

after the unbelievable intensity of Taker Michaels, this triple threat has actually been kinda fun. It's not the best thing in the world, but definitely watchable and a nice change of pace

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 02:07 AM

not even mad that Cena won

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 02:08 AM

lol at You cant wrestle sign right behind Cena's celebration though

RGWhat316 04-06-2009 02:16 AM

Someone actually voted the Divas Battle Royal as match of the night? I like womens wrestling, but that match was a joke. The girls didnt get a real entrance, the ones that returned got no recognition, and a fake diva wins the thing. I was really disappointed in that.

Pegasus Crawford 04-06-2009 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316 (Post 2490527)
Someone actually voted the Divas Battle Royal as match of the night?

Probably a troll.

James Steele 04-06-2009 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316 (Post 2490527)
Someone actually voted the Divas Battle Royal as match of the night? I like womens wrestling, but that match was a joke. The girls didnt get a real entrance, the ones that returned got no recognition, and a fake diva wins the thing. I was really disappointed in that.

The fact they bumped a TITLE UNIFICATION MATCH for that concert & clusterfuck 1-2 punch of a crowdkiller is sickening.

thedamndest 04-06-2009 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2490513)
VADER BOMB YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

damn he missed

He hasn't hit that since he started doing it.

Juan 04-06-2009 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316 (Post 2490527)
Someone actually voted the Divas Battle Royal as match of the night? I like womens wrestling, but that match was a joke. The girls didnt get a real entrance, the ones that returned got no recognition, and a fake diva wins the thing. I was really disappointed in that.

It was Guru Dave, and judging by his post in the Q&A forum, my guess is he didn't even watch the show.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2490539)
He hasn't hit that since he started doing it.

I didn't even know he used it. I rarely watch Smackdown

ok nevermind

The Mask 04-06-2009 02:37 AM

thinking about it, i don't think i'd have enjoyed the undertaker michaels match half as much if undertaker didn't nearly break his fucking neck. it added a lot to proceedings, when he was stumbling around falling over trying to get back in the ring and it hit 9 was amazing. you got the feeling he really might not be able to get back in.

Dave Youell 04-06-2009 02:57 AM

A really good undercard was totally destroyed by a lackluster main event.

The 3 way gave us what was to be expected, but HHH and Orton hitting their own finishes within 30 seconds of the match killed it for me. And the finish was super flat. I hope this goes some way to showing that HHH can't carry a crowd anymore.

Taker/HBK was some of the best shit I've seen in years, like last HBk managed to make me think the predictable wouldn't happen, after he kicked out of the tombstone I stood up and started marking out for the first time in ages, that's why those 2 guys are still awesome.

Also, get steamboat back on the full time roster :)

Tazz Dan 04-06-2009 03:03 AM

I also need to confess I marked out a little bit with CM Punk wearing Hart Foundation Colours :$

DON'T JUDGE ME CAUSE I'M MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT!!!!!! :(

Mr. Nerfect 04-06-2009 03:07 AM

I haven't watched the World Title matches yet, but they sound pretty predictable. Surprise, surprise, Triple H puts himself over in the main event of WrestleMania XXV like he's the biggest star in professional wrestling. Cena winning the World Heavyweight Title at least made sense, though.

Money in the Bank was fantastic, and I totally called CM Punk winning it. All you had to do was really think about it. The same goes for Carlito & Primo winning the Tag Team Titles on the pre-show.

The only other thing I didn't like about the show, was that Chris Jericho got bitched out by Mickey Rourke. I tried to reason that it was the Jericho mark in me talking, but I came to the conclusion it made Jericho look like a punk, and the business look inferior to acting. Flair could have at least low blowed Jericho before Rourke beat the crap out of him.

Also, I agree, Ricky Steamboat making a short return would be fucking stupendous.

RGWhat316 04-06-2009 03:07 AM

I'm not usually this negative of WWE, but tonight was just a big mess. The biggest show of the year, just seemed rushed. I guess Vince has completely lost his mind and seemed to do whatever he could to piss people off or confuse them. There were way more negatives than there were positives to this show. And if I worked in WWE, I would be really upset over these past few days.

The undercard gets completely shat on. Usually some of these guys not on the WM card will get basic matches on one of the shows. But with the exception of RAW, both ECW and SD were mainly recap shows! So the only chance these guys get to be on WM is to be involved in a lumberjack match, then that gets bumped off the card!

The women got robbed as well. Those who were excited to be returning, dont even get introductions, or barely last 30 seconds in a match. Then the winner is Santino Marella in drag. So these women dont even get to win their match.

The celebrity appearances this year sucked as well. Nicole was fine in doing "God Bless America" since they do have someone sing that every year. But Kid Rock and Mickey Rourke seemed to take their good ol time being out there. Kid Rock gets about 10 minutes, and Rourke cant decide if he wants to get in the ring, he does slowly and gets 1 shot in on Jericho.

The IC title gets defended for the first time since I believe '02, and that gets turned into an under 30 second joke. So JBL's history making moment is quitting?

Most of the rest of the matches went fine, even the World Title match, which I expected Cena to win. Surprised CM Punk won MITB again. But with his win, I think he maybe the first guy to cash in and not win it. Steamboat really surprised me in the Legends match, even though Snuka and Piper looked horrible. Of course Shawn/Taker is the showstealer. Shawn's entrance was cool, and Takers suicide dive was unbelievable.

But the main event between Orton and HHH now should have not been the main event. IMO, this has killed Randy Orton's momentum, and I dunno what can be done to regain it. The finish even left me with a "what, that's it?" reaction, which should not be a typical WM reaction.

Tazz Dan 04-06-2009 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2490570)
I haven't watched the World Title matches yet, but they sound pretty predictable. Surprise, surprise, Triple H puts himself over in the main event of WrestleMania XXV like he's the biggest star in professional wrestling. Cena winning the World Heavyweight Title at least made sense, though.

Seriously, like I said in my other post what is so wrong with HHH going over Orton? HE HASN'T WON SINCE WM19!!!!!! It keeps the story going through to Backlash, and Orton will most likely go over there.

James Steele 04-06-2009 03:19 AM

Noid, shut the fuck up. Triple H isn't the fucking booker, and he isn't the head writer. Please find a valid reason to bitch about the main event, like how it was rushed because of Kid Rock and Mickey Rourke taking too much fucking time.

Tazz Dan 04-06-2009 03:20 AM

Yeah, pretty much what James Steele said :yes:

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 03:23 AM

I thought the IC title match was fine. JBL comes out and cuts a fantastic promo hyping himself to be this amazing wrestler then gets humiliated on the biggest stage in wrestling and so he quits. Now he can go back to the booth where he instantly makes the whole product more enjoyable.

Tazz Dan 04-06-2009 03:24 AM

Supreme Olajuwon knows :y:

James Steele 04-06-2009 03:25 AM

WrestleMania 25 was "booking 101" with a few fuck ups (mainly time: Kid Rock, Mickey Rourke).

MONEY IN THE BANK --> An over babyface wins, and it so happens he won it last year. COOL
KID ROCK --> REALLY REALLY LONG CROWD-KILLER
DIVAS BATTLE ROYAL --> UNDERWHELMING CLUSTERFUCK OF SHIT
MATT VS JEFF --> Good match with typical hardy spots, HEEL WINS! (Interesting to see where that goes)
JBL VS REY --> Retiring heel is made a fool out of by babyface.
TAKER VS MICHAELS--> Instant Classic. 2 of the best in the world just do what they do best.
CENA/SHOW/EDGE --> Cena wins! (Poor Edge.)
HHH/ORTON --> Babyface gets payback on the heel (even though he had to use a sledgehammer to beat him)

Rammsteinmad 04-06-2009 03:42 AM

My thoughts:

- Money in the Bank was okay. A lot of blown spots, but as someone said, this kinda match isn't easy, so it's fine. Kofi Kingston was great in this match.

- Kid Rock sucked, and went on for AGES!

- Diva Battle Royal was absolutely shit! Not only a total waste of time, but they didn't even do individual entrances so people can mark out for old-school divas (which in all fairness, no one cared about anyway). Santino dancing was hilarious, but overall it's sad to think they took the Tag Team title match off the card for this!

- I felt Jericho's match was a waste of a potential five star Jericho match anyway, BUT a nice surprise was seeing Steamboat pulling off the stuff he was doing. I think WWE fans are use to seeing Piper and Snuka "one more time", but with Steamboat it was totally new and a pleasent surprise.

- The Rouke section went on for too long IMO.

- The Hardys match was good but I feel could have been better. How long has Matt been wearing tights? I think it totally didn't suit him and make his gut stick out. However I was very pleased that Matt won, sadly I doubt anything will come out of this (like a main event push).

- Rey Mysterio VS JBL is the same as the Diva match, only without Santino's dancing. The whole "quick win" was done last year and isn't that clever anymore. JBL's announcement was shit.

- 'Taker VS HBK. I think the voting results above speak for themselves. AMAZING!

- Triple Threat match was going good but ended too soon I feel. Pretty good match, ending was a shame though, but Cena picking up Big Show and Edge was cool. It was cool hearing Cena's old music coz that suited him so much better, but then the other one played and it all went gay again.

- Main event sucked balls. Terrible match, worse finish. I was sat there thinking "25 years of Wrestlemania, all comes down to this one main event..." and the match was god awful. Mental note I realised during this match: the last seven WM appearances by HHH have all been Title matches. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let that be it!

Overall this was a shit WM. Good PPV but a huge dissapointment for such a milestone event. With every landmark edition (IE: 15, 20, 25 etc) they have to make it feel like "the biggest WM of all time", but god this one was just plain horrible.

The stage was really cool though.

Worth seeing for: 'Taker VS HBK, Triple Threat, Hardys match, Steamboat VS Jericho.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-06-2009 03:43 AM

I thought it was a pretty good show. Not as good as the Rumble but not bad. Too much fluff and filler to be a great show though. I expected an all time great match from Taker and HBK and my expectations were met and then exceeded. Steamboat was amazing and made the legends match enjoyable. I became a big Kofi Kingston fan tonight as he really impressed me. I will never complain about CM Punk getting a push, although I'd prefer it was as a heel. Cena/Big Show/Edge was a lot better than I was expecting. Decent pace and a nice finish. Hardys were as good as I expected and I was very happy that Matt won. JBL's segment (that's really all it was) was enjoyable. HHH/Orton was disappointing overall but not because HHH won. It shouldn't have main evented. The battle royal was a pile of shit but Santino is the man so whatever. Still super pissed that they bumped the tag match for that Kid Rock bullshit. I guess this is proof that they still don't see Morrison as a star yet.

A lot about this PPV annoyed me, but there were more positives than negatives. Here's hoping Kid Rock gets cancer.


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