DeflateGate is so ridiculous. Like so so ridiculous. How in the world is this an issue

Vick got suspended a over a year for fighting dogs
Rice got supended for hitting a woman
Peterson suspended for disciplining his child
And Hernandez hasn't played since he actually killed some one

I don't think Brady should get a year but at most 3 games. He had to be involved in the deflating and tje NFL has to take some kind of action. This is kind like corking your bat in baseball.

1st round pick, tears his ACL in practice. Un-freaking-believable.

<font color=goldenrod>I'd be fine with 3-4 games. I haven't seen a compelling argument to not suspend Brady. I think any rational person would agree that deflating the footballs probably didn't do much in the long run and that it's certainly not the reason the Pats smashed the Colts and are good year in and year out. But you can't just let guys fuck around with the equipment. Doesn't matter who it is. If you let someone break the rules and not punish them, why have rules?

The most common arguments against a suspension I've heard coming out of Boston are "but lots of teams cheat!" or "there was no hard evidence!" Brady/the Pats were dumb enough to get caught (again). As for the hard evidence, I still think if Brady really had nothing to do with it he'd have given up his texts to the investigation in about 5 seconds and wouldn't need his agent to fight his battles for him.

More and more places are saying Brady's definitely getting suspended but I won't believe it until I see it.</font>

OH NO! JAGUARS SUCK AGAIN!

Overall number one pick of 2016 seems like a shoe in.

At least our QB isn't going to be suspended for cheating. ;)

NFL.com breaking news: "Jaguars QB Blake Bortles suspended for the entire 2015 season for cheating."

Ermaximus: "OH, COME ON!"

2015 draft is cursed not just for ermax, but for me, too.

Broncos 3rd round pick Jeff Heuerman tears his ACL during mini camp. Done for the season.

At board games maybe.

Pats released CB Kyle Arrington (cap reasons) and signed TE Fred Davis.


Meanwhile a US Senator is upset at a sponsorship deal the league has with the military. More upset that it was discovered the National Guard has to pay teams for advertising than NFL teams doing it for free.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...deal-nfl-teams

<font color=goldenrod>In other Jaguars draft bust news...Justin Blackmon was denied reinstatement from his indefinite suspension, so it's looking like he'll miss a second straight year. His career is probably over.</font>

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300..._atn_rosenthal


Four games in the sting job

Lol such horseshit

Goodell is so full of shit. Should have already been fired cause of the Ray Rice fiasco. He's got no leg to stand on pulling this. If this suspension holds his first game will be against the Colts. Prepare to die Indianapolis. You're in for the biggest asskicking of a lifetime.

<font color=goldenrod>Tom Brady 4 game suspension
Pats fined $1 million a docked their 2016 1st rounder and 2017 4th rounder</font>

<font color=goldenrod>It's basically a 3 game suspension as the Jags will struggle to win a single game this year.

As a Giants fan it does suck that he'll miss the Dallas game</font> :mad:

Not a Pats fan, but come on, this is complete bullshit. #firegoodell

This is so absurd.

Questions Tom Brady's integrity and gives license for retards to belittle his accomplishments. Not a Pats fan at all. In fact, I outright don't like them. But Tom Brady is a once in a lifetime player. Just feel bad for him.

So ridiculous.

I guess punching your wife in the face is worse than putting air out of a ball allegedly? #FireGoodell

The Colts should be ashamed of themselves, honestly. Putting on such a piss poor performance and then essentially publically lynching Tom Brady out of frustration. Jim Irsay has always been garbage. Helping to change NFL rules so that it benefits his team, throwing a fit and finding excuses when they lose...

Ugh. Such a circus.

<font color=goldenrod>As I said, I do think a suspension had to happen (but didn't think it would) because there's more than enough out there to show he knowingly broke the rules. Whether or not said ball altering (lol) led to a better performance is irrelevant.

But 4 games is excessive. 2 games would have been fine. Hell, even 1 game. Having to miss the game where the banner is lowered and you're meant to celebrate the Super Bowl one last time would have been punishment enough for a guy like Brady.</font>

A suspension absolutely did not have to happen at all. All they have is circumstantial evidence. There is no hard evidence to support their claim whatsoever. The NFL had a video of Ray Rice beating the living bejesus out of his wife and gave him 2 games. (And yes, they had the tape. If they can say that Brady absolutely tampered then they absolutely had the tape. )

There needs to be some sort of written parameters for the length of suspensions. Their priorities are seriously so fucking mind boggling that it is comical.

Don't get how the Pats get that harsh of a punishment when the report itself cleared them from Deflategate.

Brady getting punished was going to happen once it was found he wasn't supply the evidence the NFL wanted but even 4 games seems a bit harsh for something that was only "probable" on his part.

Colts getting nothing for having their own balls deflated also seems dumb. Bunch of teams ended up getting busted or in trouble for deflating balls last season and nothing happened to them.

this is making me so furious

i cannot stand the nfl

Just read up some more and the basis for both punishments ended up being because Spygate was invoked during the punishment discussions.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Troy Vincent cited Patriots' involvement in '07 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/spygate?src=hash">#spygate</a> as factor in punishment. &quot;This prior violation of competitive rules&quot; was considered</p>&mdash; Bob Glauber (@BobGlauber) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobGlauber/status/597882556013412353">May 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So did Tom Brady set up the video cameras as well?

oh jesus christ

<font color=goldenrod>Brady's failure to cooperate with the investigation also raised a huge red flag for the league. Again, if there was zero dirt on him he'd have done what was asked and cleared his name in 2 seconds. 4 games is still too much, thoug.

Don't understand the draft pick docking at all.</font>

Fucking hate the Colts. The Seahawks would have absolutely shitstomped them had they advanced.

One of the conditions to the punishment agreements was for the Pats to not appeal while Brady will since he wasn't involved in those talks.

The problem is "dirt" does not constitute a 4 game suspension. Dirt isn't grounds for anything. Absolute undeniable evidence is what should get somebody suspended.

lolSTD

Unless you believe there's a big conspiracy behind it all, I think it's pretty safe to say Brady knew what was going on and even had a hand in it. Not sure why everyone is so appalled. Taking out the Ray Rice comparison of course. Just looking at this situation on its own, I can't see how this is so shocking.

He is still fucking daft. He is of the same mind set as Roger Goodell.

I don't know. He called the suspension and the exact amount of games while you dick-ishly called him daft and said there was "no way". Seems like you were the daft one in the end. Just sayin'.

<font color=goldenrod>There is pretty strong evidence in the Wells Report based on the numerous texts collected from the staffers. The same staffers who almost certainly knew they would be losing their jobs by turning the texts in.

Brady was not the one shooting the balls but it seems clear he was telling them what to do and going along with it. Would not surprise me in the least if the hard evidence was the shit Brady refused to hand over. He immediately called one of the staffers right after the story surfaced. He knew they were busted.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Also the Pats will definitely appeal and they MIGHT manager to get the punishments lessened to a degree, but not totally dropped.

The CBA is written in such a way that the commissioner basically has unilateral control to do whatever he wants. It will be incredibly difficult to get everything dropped. The only reason Rice's indefinite suspension was dropped was because they had already slapped him with the retardedly small 2 game suspension and they tried to basically undo it and re-suspend him for a longer period of time.</font>

Thought 3 games would be fair but four works. Comparing this to the Rice suspension doesn't make any since. Rice had a problem off the field and Brady cheated in a game he didn't need to. The NFL has had a bad rep the last couple of years but I think they got this one right. They couldnt let Brady off after screwing with the integrity of the game, so the made an example out off him.

There are a few things that are so wonky with this situation.

-Numerous past/present players have come forth and have said that they like their footballs a certain way. Some are downright religious about it.
-the event in question had no outcome on the game.
-It has been speculated whether or not having a deflated ball is even a competitive advantage at all. Aaron Rodger admitted to liking his just about as full as they can be pumped.
-it has been proven that air pressure can be sapped from footballs just from the cold climate alone
-His punishment was increased because of SpyGate. They are acting like he was personally filming them with a go pro on his helmet.

It just sucks. His legacy is going to be tarnished for something that absolutely does not matter at all. Are you alright with that? Because I'm not.

I'm sure every shithead player will be glad to know that as long as they don't kick the living shit out of their wives while they are on the field, then everything is fine

Shut the fuck up, NerF. I see you.

oh my god Tom Brady is such a buttlicker this is the greatest day of my life

<font color=goldenrod>I think anybody who seriously looks at Deflategate as a blemish to Brady's legacy is a bit moronic, tbh. I'd be willing to bet other teams do the same thing to cater to what their QB prefers. The Pats just happened to be the ones to get caught.

Brady takes the fall. He'll come back with a vengeance in week 5 and the Pats will win the division just like they always do anyways.

He'll still go down as one of, if not the most prolific QBs of all time and will be a first ballot HOFer. He'll be fine.</font>

Hopefully.

I suppose the only good thing to come out of this is that we get to see Jimmy Garapolo sling it. If they can get at least 2 wins out of Garapolo, they are in good shape.

<font color=goldenrod>2 wins without Brady is doable. Teams are extra amped up for that Thursday night home game after the Super Bowl and the Steelers are usually slow starters. Also the Jags should be an easy win even if Bill Belichick were playing QB.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>I do love the amount of "done with the NFL" outrage posts on Facebook, though. Kept watching after the atrociously handled Ray Rice incident but fucking DEFLATEGATE is what makes you quit?

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp...-laughing-.jpg

Goodell says see you in September.</font>

Who makes an example of the NFL when THEY screw the integrity of the game?

Steve Irsay is a bigger blemish to the NFL with his DUI Arrests. Pats when they face indy it'll be like 70-0 Pats.

Fuck you.

And if I was Tom Brady, I would have cut off my own dick before surrending my phone and personal information to the NFL. They are a circus.

Whoa whoa whoa, you need to change The Colts to The Ravens. They were the ones crying foul. Someone from the Colts just handed the ball to the official during the game.

On a side note, fuck the Colts for needing to be paid to support the fucking troops. So upset at them right now.

I could see the Patriots starting 1-3

Anyone else find it funny that Brady's first game back is against the Colts?

I hope the pats go 19-0 this season...or like 18-1 if they play the lions w/e

what's the closest the Lions been to a Super Bowl? Exactly.

That's a very racist statement owenbrown. Why not just call all the people in Detroit the nasty N word while you're at it. So hurtful :(

Further proving that it is a work :D

<font color=goldenrod>Jags with the least amount of cheating. No wonder they always suck.</font>

How's McNair these days?

<font color=goldenrod>lolllllll @ putting "Eligate" on there. Not sure how it's considered cheating to trade for a guy who was being a bit of a baby about where he would be willing to play, especially seeing as they had to trade a small fortune for him. Frankly up until the first Super Bowl run that was looking like one of the worst trades in NFL history for the Giants. Merriman was incredible for a while.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>the guy who wrote about "Inflategate" for the Packers is clearly a bitter Pats fan</font>

I'm so glad it's May and the NFL has found something to make people remember football exists for the next couple months. Can't believe this non-story has dragged on this long

<font color=goldenrod>actually the words "more probable than not" are bolded in like 90% of these cases. definitely a Pats fan.</font> :lol:

<font color=goldenrod>Too bad Tebow already signed with the Eagles. If the Pats were to have signed him a day after the Brady suspension I'm pretty sure ESPN would implode upon itself.</font>

Well, they do still have the LBJ buzzer-beater to fall back on, bless their hearts.

Have they asked Lebron how he feels about this mess? That could take up a few days.

You guys what if LeBron played tight end?

Also I wouldn't give my phone to te NFL if I was Brady either. Even if I didn't do anything.

The way everything leaks out I would be worried about personal stuff leaking out. Not just pictures, but also phone numbers of friends who would probably be famous. I wouldn't trust the NFL at all with any of it.

Pwned

http://www.gofundme.com/NewEnglandPatriots

<font color=goldenrod>lol jesus christ</font>

So the NFL goes after the patriots for deflated footballs when the SEAHAWKS have had the most players popped for PEDs than any team since Pete Carrol has been their coach.

Not sure which one seems more ridiculous, that or the petition to hold off on banner ceremonies until Brady comes back from his suspension.

Or even Forbes teasing at the possibility of a class action lawsuit being filed against the NFL or Pats. Last time it was Jets fans who tried to sue the Pats.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacr...-sued-by-fans/

They were popped for it... What's the problem?

How creatively bankrupt are we as a nation that -gate is the only SCANDAL name we can think of

Outside this guy's clear disdain for Patriots fans (he also clearly isn't a big Goodell fan either), this sums up my thoughts pretty well. Pretty sure the hatred of Goodell has lead people to not think of this whole thing logically.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/roge...ner-four-games

"Nothing was going to be good enough. Had Goodell gone too easy on Brady, it’d be a sign there’s a star system. Had he gone too harsh, which he evidently did according to some, he’s suspending Brady for his lies or the cover-up or his lack of participation in the investigation, not because he cheated. Nonsense. Brady didn’t fully participate in the investigation because he’s almost certainly guilty. And he lied because, well, that’s what people do when they get caught doing something they shouldn’t. How anyone can have sympathy for Brady when he knowingly tampered with the integrity of one of the three biggest football games of the years shows how toxic Goodell has become. To many, he’s not even allowed to punish the cheaters properly."

Honestly. This whole situation just makes me really angry. It is ludicrous.

Blame Nixon.

There's also a facebook group giving Goodell's address and telling to mail pennies.

<font color=goldenrod>Brady has hired Jeffrey Kessler for his legal team to fight the suspension. Not the first time he has represented Brady. Among the cases Kessler has litigated:

McNeil vs. NFL (led to the creation of free agency)
Belichick vs. NFL (led to Belichick getting out of his Jets contract to join the Patriots)
Brady vs. NFL (led to the 2011 lockout ending)

So yeah...odds are looking pretty good that Brady will be suiting up Week 1</font>

Hope Brady wins just to see everyone's reaction.

NFL cleared the Dolphins of tampering charges in regards to signing Ndamukong Suh.

Even though both sides had an deal in place prior to the start of free agency, league didn't see it as worthy of being punished for tampering.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Odell Beckham Jr. will be on the cover of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Madden16?src=hash">#Madden16</a>. Beckham is the youngest cover athlete in game history. <a href="http://t.co/f2PaykcMse">pic.twitter.com/f2PaykcMse</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/598621511767953408">May 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Finals was between him and Gronk for the cover star.

<font color=goldenrod>I'm happy for OBJ. The people running this Wiki article are pretty much grasping at straws over the last few years of the "Madden Curse".</font>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_NFL#Madden_Curse

Kyle Arrington to the Ravens 3 years. First good news I've heard this off-season it feels like

<font color=goldenrod>In the Patriots' official rebuttal they said that McNally refers to himself as "the deflator" in his texts because he's a big guy trying to lose weight. :lol:

Okay, regardless of how you feel about the Brady suspension I think only the most brainwashed of Pats fans can think that's legitimate.</font>

NFLPA filed an appeal on behalf of Tom Brady. Just the usual claims of there really needs to be a neutral arbitrator when it comes to appeals and NFL being inconsistent when it comes to handing out punishments.

Seems like nobody in the NFL was interested in the wacky idea the Colts had for extra point and two point convesions. If a change happens, its going to be based on one of these three proposals.

Was mentioned on Twitter but the new kicking changes will affect non-dome and cold weather teams a lot more especially late in the season and playoffs.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/5/1...pring-meetings

I like the idea of the defense being able to score on a 2 point turnover.

... I think they were better off not trying to come up with something.

Tony Romo joined twitter.

And he immediately got bombarded with interception jokes

Despite the fact that he gets intercepted far less than most quarterbacks.

Sports fans.

Don't defend Tony Romo. Jesus.

I do what I want. You're defending a filthy cheater.

NFL possibly backing down a bit on the penalties handed out to the Pats for Deflategate.

Main reason is them being a bit worried the Pats might actually sue because of the stiff punishments being tied more to unrelated stuff and the report itself clearing the team. Also don't want the issue dragging on any longer past this week's owners meeting.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...gate-penalties

Really love how a few people on ESPN say that if he did not lie that he would only received the $30,000 fine. A lie, potential lie at that, is really worth a 4 game suspension? Lol

Kind of glad Blackmon is gone. Dude was a waste, but then again, so was almost every Gene Smith draft pick.

<font color=goldenrod>Niners lose yet another player to retirement. Justin Smith hangs 'em up.</font>

One of the best the ever play. :(