Poor dude's head landed in the Chattahoochie.

Jack Swagger won his MMA debut

Good for Hager. He needed something like that. It's hard to really get that WWE stank off him, but being a big-ass good ol' boy from Oklahoma that seems like he could accidentally win a fight against most people, trying to get a legit rep behind him is a good idea. They seem to be booking him in a clever way.

I've got no interest in seeing Hager in AEW right now, because of that WWE stank, but if he washes it off with this run in Bellator, MLW and maybe does some work with ROH and New Japan, I could get into him. I could buy him in a ROH World TV Title feud with Jeff Cobb and/or an IWGP US Title program with Juice Robinson.

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LOL @ RP

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Jake's fight.

Jake did pretty good. Solid wrestling of course and struggled with a kimura, hit some nice ground and pound and sunk in an easy head and arm. His opponent was nothing special, but it was a good debut. You can see where he can grow but also where he has brute strength and athleticism.

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I love Daniel Bryan, but I can't imagine anyone seeing a little shaggy man yelling on the morning news and being compelled to go to the Royal Rumble to see him fight.

CM Phil has to love that another pro wrestler has a MMA victory.

Lesnar
Lashley
Batista
Nakamura
Del Rio
Swagger

All have wins, while ole tough guy Phil got his ads kicked twice lol

One day he will fight Jason Thacker and win by DQ.

Thanks for linking that. I am not too knowledgeable about MMA, but it seems like they made a smart decision giving him a scrub. Hager looks to be in great shape and healthy. Not sure if he left himself too open going for that submission. It looks like he can get guys down easy enough. That elbow looked vicious.

From a production standpoint, they seem to be taking care of Hager. Dropping a lot of his connections and the commentators took good care of him. It also sounds like the fight was actually in Perry. Lol at him doing the “We the People” taunt.

Bryan’s so fucking good.

I need Monica Garcia to smother me with dat ass.

He's been working in Lucha Undergound also. As Jake Strong, He's their current Champion.

Good for him, I guess, but LU doesn’t really count for me anymore.

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I forgot about Gentleman Jack, who in a shoot fight would destroy Phil

Gentleman Jack is easily one of the most legit bad asses in WWE.

His heel turn has certainly been disappointing. He was so over during the CWC and I miss watching his unique repertoire.

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Oh shit. :eek: :lol:

Wow.

Smh

Remember feeling very uncomfortable during this segment.

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Lol Jesus.

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I hate Roddy Strong now....

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So Brock puts on a match that was pretty much nothing but an f5-athon (mania 34), the crowd shits on the match. He comes backstage and throws the belt at Vince. Hmm, maybe if your matches had more substance than 2 moves the crowd wouldn't shit on them so much? Just a thought.

I'm not sure why they needed to have the match when Lesnar and Rollins already faced off before. The whole point of last night was to show off a pipsqueak like ballor could hang with him

The clip above is from the Lesnar\Reigns match. Apparently Shane confronted Lesnar about it as well.

hahahaha omg so bad

Lol at the ref abandoning the clap in Lesnar video.

Only clapping for that match should have been relief it was over, suplex f5 f5 f5 f5 superman punch spear over and over. A total of 4-5 moves repeated constantly between the 2 of them. And Lesnar being annoyed the crowd shit on the match is hilarious.

I don't blame him for being annoyed. Lesnar has shown countless times he can put on a good show when the match is well put together. He's had a good match with Reigns. Whoever decided that match should be them kicking out of each other's finishers a billion times should be fired.

Supposedly the reason for his reaction is due to Vince throwing out everything that was planned for the match the day of the show and wanting Lesnar to win which pissed off Lesnar, Reigns, and everyone else who worked on the match.

Vince McMahon is the promoter/head booker of WWE. He produced years of television programming to attempt the goal of audience manipulation. This stifled Brock and others creatively in order to support that goal. When you get to WrestleMania, the audience had already made up their mind before Brock even walked out there. Brock did tremendous work in 2017 -- with AJ Styles, in the Fatal 4-Way and did the best he was allowed to with Joe. I would be pissed off too if I put my star in the hands of a guy and it fucks up like that.

Very brutal


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When Hunter pedigreed him at Mania, and ten seconds went by, and got the 3 count, I legit turned my TV off and stopped watching wrestling for about 4 years.

I don't think Booker should have won but I also don't think there should have been any racial overtones in the build up.

Poor taste, but not quite as bad as Jimmy Hart using Watermelon and Women to entice Kamala to join the First Family.

Or Lawler telling Kamala he was going to "wet his lips and stick him to the wall" a few minutes later.

Or the existence of a character named Kamala the Ugandan Giant.

Or a guy in a Klan Hood hanging Virgil by the neck.

Or "the watermelon angle."

Either WWE told him to take down the tweet and/or something else is going on with Lars at the moment.

Lars also locked his account afterwards as well.

Jesus Christ, this Lars stuff is not good. Mental health is a serious thing and all, but I don't know how a performance company can put that much stock in a guy that doesn't have a handle on it, you know? I wouldn't fire him or anything, but I certainly don't think he can be depended on in a role where routine, keeping up a schedule and appearing in front of large crowds all the time is absolutely vital.

Someone I was just reading suggested that Bryan is putting together a group of former NOAH guys. While I don't think that is the case, that would certainly be a more interesting way to take things than Bryan simply hijacking The Wyatt Family.

Samoa Joe and Cesaro are former NOAH guys on the SmackDown roster. Hideo Itami and Nigel McGuinness are on 205 Live. Kassius Ohno, War Raiders, Bobby Fish and Roderick Strong are in NXT.

Take out Strong & O'Reilly, who are a tag team in NXT and doing fine. The War Raiders are doing their own thing. Joe seems "too solo" for the act. Cesaro is with Sheamus. That leaves Itami, Ohno and Fish to join Bryan. I can imagine Ohno there in a flannel as a person who was ravaged by cheeseburgers. Itami & Ohno as a tag team could be pretty sick, actually.

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I think Ohno has the character and move set to fit in compeltely with the Bryan stable.

The racial overtones are why Booker should have won.

If Booker was going to lose, chill with the racial shit and have a different finish. The whole "People like you don't beat people like me." and then...you beat him is awful. A pedigree, clean, then a full 10 seconds before you're pinned is also an abysmal finish.

It was shit all around. All that redemption build, all that racial shit, just to have Hunter go over in lazy fashion. I still feel the same way now as I did then.

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Booker very much should have won against HHH. He was a hot act and HHH was busy murdering any fan interest in the product.

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My Queen

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Becky is taking it way too smarky.

You are literally the most giant piece of shit poster on this forum.

I agree with this.
I disagree with this, Booker was not a hot act at the time.

Nia Jax stinkfaced alexa on raw. i'm being honest nia could stinkface me anytime

Hope you have a spatula and a casket on standby.

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Not at all. She is the reason why this feud will exceed anything eLse WWE has done creatively for someone in the past 5-10 years.

When I was a kid a PPV going 3 hours felt long. I can't fathom any children today sitting thru 7 hours of WWE on a Sunday.

RAW should be an hour.

I remember finding it hard to watch those 3 hour Nitro's back in the day and I loved WCW. 7 hours is ridiculous.

Nah, i'll be fine. :D

That might explain why their fans are predominantly 55-year-old men.

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This visual is reason enough to not shoehorn Charlotte into the Becky/Ronda match.

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"Barry O" is looking and sounding rough these days.

That's probably a really interesting interview.

Hopefully he discusses his dynamic stint at the Terry Garvin school of self defence

I will own this.

There’s a very good chance they could do this, but does anyone really feel the Horsewomen schtick? They don’t feel like a real stable and the belts don’t have the same sort of situational relevance to me. I’d rather they all do their own things.

His account is locked down now to confirmed followers, not sure if it was like that before.

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Ever since I heard Cornette mention it, it really does bother me when I see absolute scrubs used as jobbers. Makes me hate the guy beating them up. Heard great things about WALTER, but it’s just one of those peek behind the curtain things.

Been rooting for Sonya Deville. Like her style, and she's steadily been improving. I loved when she came out at the rumble and just started decking people.

I also like Sonya Deville. I haven't seen that much of her work, but I like her look and something about her makes me want to see her succeed. Maybe it's because she was thrown out there with an MMA gimmick just a few months before Rousey came in and she was still plenty green?

If they really want more soap opera storylines, then the Mandy Rose/Naomi/Usos/Sonya Deville stuff should have led to Jey pretending to be Jimmy to bed Mandy and Sonya revealing she has a secret lesbian crush on Mandy, who rejects Sonya, which leads to a three-way between her, Jimmy and Naomi. I mean, as PG as you can make that.

I thought that’s where they were going with the hotel stuff from the other week (with Jey going instead of Jimmy, especially when he was like “MY wife?”) but a guy pretending to be another guy in order to bed a women probably wouldn’t go over too well in certain circles.

You wanna get fucked by Paige's brothers eh?

what

Paige so beautiful just want love.

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So you never minded it before but now you do because Cornette told you to. Got it.

It really does suck about her injury. She was a great talent and was truly the first rock that rolled in the women's evolution. She would be in the mix with Ronda, Becky and Flair if she wasn't out of the running now.

I'm not having a go at Cornette either. I quite enjoy his shoots with other people, or on specific topics - he's far less negative when discussing wrestling's past, so things like a Timeline or Guest Booker shoot. I thought his proposed WM18 card in the Invasion Guest Booker looked like shit, but I appreciated the effort and enthusiasm, And stuff like him interviewing Bill Watts or Percy Pringle is a better sense of the man minus the vitriol.

However, I'm put off by his inability to admit when he's wrong. The level of hatred he has toward so much of modern wrestling...to the point where he says he doesn't care if Kenny Omega has the greatest wrestling match ever, because the fact he's had comedy matches in the past invalidates it...it's soured me on him even when he's talking about the past. If he can get a lot of his takes on modern wrestling wrong, who's to say he's right about the past either, and not equally clouded by prejudice?

wow that was really hard to explain.

:roll: nobody expects you to be manly, dave. It was just weird when you literally called everyone and everything adorable. It seemed inauthentic and kind of creepy.

It doesn't really bother me it's a monster heel killing the jobber, but the match needs to go as short as possible. Under a minute preferably. Jobber charges, eats a kick, power move, power move, finisher, 1-2-3.

If the heel is a "cocky" heel, the matches can drag on a little more as he has a more of a "cat with a mouse" feel, playing with his prey rather than destroying it as quickly as possible like the monster heel. More posing, feinting, out-maneuvering, etc.

Jeff Jarrett's punches are more entertaining to me than 80% of the dives we see on a weekly basis. I caught The Rumble of course and he was good but on Raw without the goofy costume he came off so much better working over Elias until the end of the segment. I would like to see a one on one between Double J and Elias down the line.

They are called enhancement talent for a reason. They're supposed to not only technically make your stars look impressive but physically as well. They should look like average joes cuz they get their asses kicked really badly lol. When you have some hulking jobber who gets shit kicked every week, it makes it seem like anyone can go and get big muscles. Takes away the uniqueness of your stars.

Ryback got really over crushing twerps every week

Found STD:

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Lol, no. It's more like the picture of the duck that you turn on your side and can no longer unsee the rabbit. It's something that's possibly even subconsciously there, but when it's pointed out to you it ruins it. Like people pointing out that Owen Wilson says "Wow" a lot. You start looking for it.

There are debates on these boards alone as to just how over Ryback did or didn't get. I've never been that impressed by him or his crowd reactions. That being said, I think it does work on modern audiences because of what they are conditioned to. Watching the Royal Rumble pre-show, everybody was gushing over how great Buddy Murphy is, but to me he's really boring and I can't see him having wide appeal.

I think the modern audience can be a terrible indicator of what is or isn't actually going to attract other people.

That's all salient, but the psychology of it is just wrong for me. Why would a scrub even dare to get in the ring with a monster heel? Shouldn't that be suicide?

This is going to be a weird example, but have you ever seen the Mortal Kombat movie? I don't know why this is springing to mind, but there's that guy that fights Goro, who is like the monster of the film. That guy isn't a fucking loser. He looks like a legit martial artist that can hold his own for a second there.

WWE just goes too corny with it with the James Ellsworths and the guys with absolutely no definition and obviously nothing at all. It doesn't even lend itself well in comparison, because even the average guy would look good compared to them. It's just very hokey to me. There are ways to do squashes that don't give the game away.

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Lol, that shirt. I actually really liked The Real Americans as a tag team.

Honestly, that's the best way to promote Walter (beyond giving him a better name). Have him kill guys, then show pictures of their chests.