Was about to ask if there were any celeb voice actors in this one but then I noticed Timothy Olyphant and motherfucking Stringer Bell in the credits. Gunna have to listen for them next time

I do not understand this argument. No one is forcing you to buy DLC. If you don't, you aren't losing anything. There's no penalty.

I agree no one is forcing me to buy it, but when the people you play with bitch and moan that you don't, its annoying.

Also, it turns a $70 game into a $120 game which is just insane since not even a year later you likely won't ever play it again.

Can someone explain this Kill Confirmed thing a bit? I just watched my cousin play via commentary on a recording but he didnt touch on the Kill Confirmed.

I worry as I snipe alot and hope I don't have to run to the other side of the map to confirm it.

Red dog tags stop the other team from getting points, gold ones give your team points. You still get points for kills, your teams score doesn't increase from the kill, only from picking up gold dog tags.

Your first statement is a valid point. I play with friends every oppurtunity I can. If there truly is that much dlc on the way, then it is doubtful that everyone in your group of friends will have all the same maps. In fact it's unlikely that even two of you will. Unless you coordinate with friends what you are all buying.


The fact that COD is a yearly title doesn't affect the value, considering unlike most series, a new sequel does not mean people will stop playing the previous game. It is still just as easy to find games in MW1 and even World at War, as it is in more recent entries.

Also, I played this at a friend's house, and I agree with roxer. I suppose it's not something you would notice as much if you don't use high ground that often, but it's a big part of my play style, so it's definitely off putting for me.

I still like the game overall, and will likely buy it, but it's no longer a priority for me.

Obviously no one is forcing me to buy it and I'm not going to. What I dislike is being told from the outset that this game is basically planning to release more parts of it over the next year. I would rather buy the entire game at the outset because it is already expensive enough. I don't like the idea that they have held back parts to wring even more money out of people. I also would prefer they work on ironing out any bugs they have shipped the game with, rather than on more ways to get customers to shell out. Match-making had serious diffs in both MW2 and Blops and the DLC added to it, in my opinion.

When it comes to DLC, I agree with this when the game seems to skimp out on content on release and charges for more later. This is not the case here. MW3 has tons of content, and is worth every penny.

Sometimes devs act shady and hold back on content that they could put on disc before release.

Most of the time though, it is budget and time restrictions that keep them from putting things on the disc. They tell you from the outset because the content is mostly completed, but getting it on disc would be unfeasible due to the previously mentioned constraints.

Well that's good to know, I'll probably get it around Christmas like I say. But I guess my problem is that the whole idea of paying out money to have different levels of customer isn't appealing and could impact on the multiplayer experience, which is the sole reason I get these games, and the sounds of having DLC pretty much monthly is worrying.

Also I'd rather developers took their time to make completed games. I understand bugs are inevitable but I'd rather they gave vague deadlines for themselves and got the game out as complete and slick as possible, but that's a tired old debate.

There is a way to turn DLC off when playing, isn't there? So if 2 people have it but one doesn't, everyone can play together?

Sniping is not ideal on Kill Confirmed, but it is possible. Just requires more co-ordination among the team. Obviously you can't pick up the tags, but anyone else on your team who gets them confirms the kill. And you get the points from it as well.

Blitz, The game reverts down the list of DLC until it finds the map pack everyone has in common with the basic one being default. I don't believe you can turn it off, but you can delete and redownload it.

I did that with BlOps mappack that I didn't enjoy.

ECG, you would think a company who puts out a game every other year would want to keep their fan base happy by ensuring the multiplayer is fun, balanced and bug free. MW2 had a lot of bugs and glitches months after release. Call me a whiner but until they prove they can release a good game instead of a rushed buggy mess I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt. I'm just hoping they realize past mistakes.

Modern Warfare 3?

More like Modern Assfare 3 m i rite?

:rofl:

You do remember that IW was pretty much dead like 2 weeks after MW2 came out right? Little hard to put out bug fixes while you are hiring new people after most of your dev team quit.

So far, knock on wood, no buggy, cheating, glitchy nonsense. So far.

Dats cuz dem cod playas aint have deescovered dem hax n cheats n exploits yet.

I believe IW never really bothered modifying or tweaking their engine besides some patch fixing nor did they ever used the modifications Treyarch did to the engine for World at War and Black Ops.

It didn't mean that Treyarch's version of the engine was that much better but the same problems from MW 1 ended up occurring in MW 2 and MW 3. They also believed it would have been impossible for Treyarch to tweak the engine to make it work on non-HD consoles or even add extra modes like Zombie maps until Treyarch proved them wrong.

Activision is giving all premium members of CoD Elite an extra 30 days for free due to the recent problems of Elite not tracking stats properly.

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/launch...ty-elite/3801/

Its nott seedy its business and if you know anytghiung about business u know that what u get is what u got

They were both sidekicks on the American Forces side. I didn't notice either of them not because their voicework is bland or unnoticeable, but because they didn't have enough lines in the game.

Except for Sandman who was voiced by William Fitcher. He has plenty of lines but even his voice got by me. Maybe I just don't pay enough attention.

Don't you play madden? Cause that sounds exactly like Madden as well.

Also, I am aware of everything you just said. In fact I'm fairly sure most adults who buy the game are aware. We just don't care.

I find the game fun, so I buy it. It's that simple.

Will I have needed to play the first two Modern Warfares to understand what's going on in this game

Is that a DrA post or a serious question?

what the fuck do you think

I think it's a funny DrA post.

Thanks

PP90 treating me very well.

P90? Like the gun from Goldeneye? :D

PP90M1 is the full name I think. Submachine gun.

Did a couple rounds in multiplayer just now and got the Bakaara map for the first time. Reminded me of Crash back in MW1. EVERYBODY was at that helicopter.

Ahhhh, memories.

Think I enjoyed BO more right off the bat. Dont know why they didnt keep the point system instead of having to level up for perks..basically if it wasn't for kill confirmed I wouldn't be playing this after a few weeks( multiplayer).

Just played alittle more after my post..starting to like it better.

Anyone tell me the difference between the double xp unlock and weapon double xp unlock? Which is better to unlock?? I can do only one

IW isn't going to keep anything in that treyarch creates. They are building off the Modern Warfare games, not the treyarch ones.

Alright, have played this for an hour so far and I have to say I love almost everything about this game, but a few things I want to say that I don't like so far. And before anyone decides to go all "Fallen Angel is being a whiny twat" I just said I love everything except these few things"

- Type 95 - I know I was killed a ridiculous amount by the gun, the hipfire is ridiculous and it seems like a cross between the FAMAS and the G11. I think they will nerf this in the first patch honestly.

- I see Heart Beat Sensors

- I see Thermal

- All the maps feel...small...I have found one half decent sniping map and maps I think are good for sniping need good corridors and wide open areas. As Roxer said, there isn't a whole lot.

- Shotguns being primary again :( this is more a personal thing as I miss my go to MW2 setup of barrett and spas12 and yes, I know I can have them both via a perk.

- I encountered a lot of dropshotters so far, but I suppose thats been in alot of these games.

Other then that, goddamn impressed.

Would you rather unlock all the equipment and killstreaks faster or everything for your guns faster.

Really that simple.

Hate every map on this. It's entirely to easy to get flanked on all of them. I see what they were trying to do and make it more fast paced and more about gun vs gun, but the levels are not ground war friendly at all.

And it might just be me, but I feel like the hit detection is awful. There is no way I am missing someone standing still as much as I do with my red dot right on the guy.

I'm starting to dig the maps a lot more, actually. Love the more run and gun style. And I think the hit detection is just you, because frankly, I'm cappin' fools.

None of the levels are ground war friendly because none of them were designed for ground war.

Ground War sucks anyways.

I should take the hint that fate doesn't want me to play this game

- Eb games nearly sold it since I didn't get there in time for preorder
- Net was cutoff yesterday due to a missed payment in October and I have to wait till Monday to see where they sent my money.
- Gold ran up yesterday, thankfully there is a 2 day pass.
- My power went out from 3am til an hour ago.
- I had originally typed this out on my desktop computer while waiting for MW3 to bootup and my power went out again...

Yeah...

Treyarch?

More like Assarch.

seriously why are they even allowed to make COD games? They suck...badd.

Sweet Jesus this game has a lot to choose from.

Fucking Type 95 with Rapid Fire :( Jesus that thing is deadly...

Yeah been seeing a lot of Type 95's the last couple of days. I can't seem to do anything with it. Always been kinda useless with burst guns.

CM901 is my go to rifle right now. Still though, PP90 is my #1 anything.

I picked up the TYPE 95 and got 16 kills in a row without really trying its a OHK at any range and hipfire is ridiculously accurate

oo I want to try it be for its nerfed
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Edit: PS3 got a patch today.....probably already nerfed

So are you enjoying it FA? And you really should try campaign. It's the best one I've ever played in COD.

Easiest one too.

So the maps are still pretty bad but not as bad as I first thought. I still think they're too small and there are too many maps with buildings in the way and not enough open space.

That one African map with the giant trench down the middle might be the worst map ever created.

So for me the maps range from "worst map ever created" to "not as bad as I first thought but still bad".

Campaign on Hardened is pretty challenging for me. Of course I ain't as good as you claim to be.

I actually enjoy almost all the maps.

The only ones I hate are Underground (The destroyed city with the open subway in the middle) and Village (Some African Village where people just throw grenades at each other).

Other than that, I think they're all pretty good.

Apparently some people discovered hidden map files within the MW 3 disc and could somewhat explain how Activision and Infinity Ward planned for 20 DLC packs since all the discovered maps are from MW 1 and 2.

http://download.gamezone.com/uploads...25/codmaps.jpg
http://www.gamezone.com/news/cod-4-a...dern-warfare-3

First hacker today :(

Oh and fuck Dome.

Hands down the worst map in Cods history is Dome.

Why?

I love it, personally

Finished storyline today. Abrupt end but so happy with the ending

It is so hard to string kills together when people spawn a grenade throw length away from you.

I would love to remove the testicles of whoever decided that heartbeat sensors needed to be in this game.

What mode are you playing? I've seen like one person using heartbeat sensor.

Why is anyone using anything in this game? Such a noob move :nono:

It should just be a gigantic staring contest.

Slappers only

Ugh. Won't comment until I have more playtime. But... ugh.

I will say this: It's fast.

thats what she said

Nice.

Saw a bunch of modders with "xbox buttons" in their clan tags. :n:

Yeah thats all over the place. Filing complaints on all of them

BTW, these maps are abysmal. Terrible flow, they are small, no consideration for 'tracks', and the series trademark random geometry returns. I will say notes of reused map parts are bullshit, it just looks similar. Probably should have tasked Treyarch for advice or something.

Full thoughts later. I can say it will probably be an epic FANgel-ish rant.

Also, my sensitivity is all the way down and it still feels slippery. Sprinting is too short. And movement is too sluggish for the type of game this is.

Assault and Support strike packages are distinct and cool.

Oh.

I'm sure they deserved reporting somehow.

Thats what I was referring to when I meant I saw my first hacker.

Yep, same. Hate how their name blocks a good chunk of the screen when they are on your team and ahead of you.

Try Specialist and get 8 kills ;)

You get every perk. Yes. Every. Perk.

Yeah, agreed. Just play the game for christs sake instead of looking like a jackass.

I do bitch about getting spawned near an enemy. But anyone would bitch about that.

I am going to buy the first map pack if any of the maps are relatively big.

None of these maps is my favorite. Like in BlOps I would be happy when Firing Range came up, in MW2, it was Wasteland and Estate but none in this do I really like or look forward to.

Hopefully they put some old maps in or make some good new ones.

Hey so should I or someone else or whatever start up a "TPWW" clan or group or whatever in the Call of Duty Elite thing so we can team up and compete in contests and win prizes or whatever?

Oh. To "compete" we all have to have a subscription.

I haven't checked yet, but can you make clans now?

For the premium elite competitions? Dunno, don't have a subscription.

Just finished the campaign.

What is with the explosion of people with Xbox buttons in their tags. Saw none until today, when I saw 2 or 3 a game.

ACR is just as great on here as MW2. Missed it.

A page or 2 back. It's not a hack, just something you add in the clan tag. Hopefully it will be patched.

Yeah it is. Went 45-15 the first game I used it.

I know. Just weird that it went from nowhere to everywhere in like a couple of days.

Some news regarding the Elite subscription for CoD with both pieces being bad news.

As of now Activision has restricted access to Elite for all non-founding members so that the current "founders" members can actually access the service. They also are still having a lot of glitches and problems with the service itself but everyone who signs up will still have the free 30 days "founders" membership extension once the limited phase is over.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...under-members/


The other bad news is Elite might never be done for the PC or at least for this year's CoD game due to Activision having a lot of problems getting the stats to track and the PC being an "insecure platform" in terms of mods and hacking possible.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/cod-...-not-happen-pc

I mentioned seeing a hack a few days ago, I was referring to that. I agree its exploded recently though.

Hate those bastards on my team as their name blocks the screen.

Yeah, and it's not even cool. So far, my only complaints are spawns and FUCKING QUICK SCOPING! It's so damn bad in this game...

Feel like Activision said "screw a system, just have them spawn behind someone who just got a kill"

And yes, quick scoping is annoying. Some nutfuck tried a 360 when the score was tied 7400-7400. I had the pleasure of hipfiring my barrett into his face for the gwk.