I want 2009 Orton back.

Love how WWE has these polls but they always put one guy that they know will win with two that won't get a single vote.

Kids have phones nowadays.

I want Orton to grow his hair back. Too many bald people in wrestling as of late...

Swagger beating Orton cleanly by submission would do wonders for him.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW

Even that I feel like doesn't warrant a big payoff though. Triple H wins the match, he beat a jobber. Even with a post-match attack, he's still a jobber who just jobbed. It doesn't make me wanna see a rematch because... it's still Triple H vs a jobber.

The only way I can see them making Axel interesting is if they put out the thought that he's a "new man" and maybe he can beat Triple H. Even if it's a fluke/requires interference from Heyman.

Swagger wanted this match against Orton like a real man.

Punk better come back with his old mane back or at the very least his hair from his nexus/commentary run.

Oh, I agree. Triple H doesn't really need to win another match for the rest of his career to be meaningful. Curtis Axel beating Triple H would be an instant credibility boost. They should even have him do it via submission to really shock the world.

Punk vs. Curtis Axel is actually a match I would be interested in. Think those two world work well together, and there's history there.

King comes across as a real asshole anymore. "I voted 8 times!" he just seems like he's not even trying to be entertaining anymore and just does what they tell him to do all the time.

Zeb and Rhodes should have a 'stache vs 'stache match some time.

I've heard him say on a few occasions that he hates doing commentary. He's pretty much just doing it for the paycheck.

well fuck him in the anus then. :foc:

Orton's thes press looks pretty terrible most of the time.

Lol @ how loudly Orton told Swagger to chopblock him. It was even funnier to hear Swagger tell Orton to grab his hair.

Aw man I miss the days when King was an unbelievable dick.

this neutered version the kids have nowadays geez :(:nono:

Taken out of context one could make a pretty horrible and childish joke with this.

Two strikes be damned... I want Orton to be back in the thick of things. He's an easy legit main eventer who's just floating around outside the title picture for so long and it's weird. And he's been out of the main title picture long enough where he'd be fresh again if/when he steps back in.

"Puppies!"

Like when he called Goldust's 8 year old daughter a whore? Aaah, the good old days.

Swagger needs this match way more than Orton.

I agree. Besides what were his strikes for? Spice right?

The horny old man is cool too but god when he was heel he was a HEEL.

King is a natural asshole. When he tries to be nice it just seems insincere.

I seem to remember a match ending during a commercial break once. Some time in the 90's. I feel like it was WCW.

I think this is where they will eventually go with Orton. Especially since there are two World Titles. And Orton being fired as World Champion isn't the end of the world. They'll just have him drop it to someone in a squash match and then fire him.

I think one was for steroids. When all those guys got named on that list.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jerry Lawler should become the General Manager of RAW. He can talk, he's over and it would evolve his character. A "business-minded" Jerry Lawler can be more of that asshole everybody loves.

Gotta love when they let the matches go long.

King just needs to be let off the chain and allowed to do what he wants (within reason of course). Let him oogle divas and call Punk and his fans "Basement dwelling virgins" while casually making remarks about Fandango's sexual preferences and Ricardo and Del Rio's relationship. Essentially let him be Gertner.

Yeah, but I mean THE main title picture. Like... WWE title picture. How long can you just be scared with him? Eventually it seems like you've gotta just say "Alright, it's been long enough. We're gonna trust you here. Don't fuck it up."

No Orton and CM Punk seem like natural assholes with King the downplayed nice guy seems real enough its just that he seems to be having fun being a bastard as opposed to it being a part of who he is.

I wouldn't mind seeing him in the picture as a heel against Cena again at some point. Their stuff was usually pretty good.

Yeah, about time to wrap it up.

Fuck, I thought he was gonna RKO him off that splash. Would have been ridiculous.

Punk can play a decent face so long as he's still being a smartass. Orton does seem really out of place as a face though.

Well poo

Swagger is scarily good in the ring. The dude just needs cred.

Just in case there was any doubt that WWE knew who was gonna win the poll all along... Just imagine Swagger vs. Khali going this long. lol

Swagger loses clean two nights in a row in big matches. Wonder where they are going with him.

damnit Swagger why'd you have to fuck up with the drugs man?!?!

Does it say something about the World Heavyweight Championship that I consider Swagger's greatest achievement in the WWE actually training Michael Cole up to be a threat to Jerry Lawler?

Of course Orton won. It makes the WWE Universe feel that their voting has influence.

Am I the only one that remembers Swagger's first match on Raw against Cena where he took him to the limit?

He's an invisible bully because he only does it at night.

Problem is his strikes have come at the worst times possible so even if they felt it was finally time to trust him, they'd still have some fear of the next strike randomly popping up.

Should just give him a nice long IC or US reign instead since his stardom is big enough to make the belt look credible again while also being a great way to build a new star since the "rub" would be huge if done correctly.

At least Swagger looked like a threat there. Doesn't hurt him too much to look below Orton. Swagger can get his momentum elsewhere. I like that Orton doesn't lose left and right whenever they need to put the latest flavor of the month over. It's one of the biggest terrible booking things they do. Everyone going over everyone else based on who's got a big match that month.

I feel like I remember random things that I really shouldn't be able to keep in my mind sometimes...

Question to parents:why the FUCK is your child online with apparently zero policing???

I remember Cena's...

Ryback looks the part tonight.

Because they are shitty parents.

lol I was thinking the same thing.

True but if they don't do something with him then he's being wasted completely. If they don't want to put him in the title picture then they need to at least use him for something. It'd be a waste but if he was putting people over at least he'd have something to do.

I remember that. I think it came just before Sheamus' random WWE Title win at TLC. I still think that win should have been Swagger's.

You're probably right, but I'm bias as I love the great white so I'm happy he got that run.

We get the entrance :D

HHH is in amazing shape lately. He should really consider coming back for one last real run.

Interested to see what the big twist will be here.

Damn, a kicked up Mr. Perfect theme.

Did not expect that.

Dude, that theme is pretty SSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.

I guess even if he doesn't get in the title picture, it might be cool just to have him as the established #2 face who constantly has major feuds just below Cena's title feud. Build him back up and even a Cena-Orton face vs face match for the title could be amazing.

Fuck his minitron does say Curtis!

I saw this match on WWE '12 once.

It is pretty great.

I don't dislike Sheamus -- the guy is really fucking good in the ring to the point where some things he does (not all) amazes me. His stuff against Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler? Magic. I just think the Swagger win would have been less random. Swagger had already been ECW Champion by this point. Sheamus has feuded with Goldust.

There's bound to be twist, maybe a second client or a return?

New theme, gear, name.

All sounds like a legit push for Perfect Jr. But like most, I think there's something more going on.

Eh that could work too I guess. But that's assuming he does get back in the title picture at some point.

eh, looked like Curt the first time to me as well.

lol. I think they may have edited it since his first entrance.

If his finisher is anything other than the PerfectPlex, I'll be rather displeased.

I like the black tape on Triple H

UGH I didnt hear it that well why do new themes sometimes sound like they are being played from stereo with a mic placed in front of it

lol. The main event of Raw right now is Triple H vs Michael McGillicutty. Craziness.

I don't think they'd be pushing Michael McGillicutty into this and put the effort into remolding him if he wasn't going to do something here.

2 count...1 more second to win.

Paul Heyman is great.

If he uses that stupid spinny thing he used as a finisher back in the nexus then I'm really going to be upset.

I would have never predicted this.

Trips drugged or something?

Or is he doing one hell of a sell?

His gear is the same. He'll change that next week.

That ref sounds really raspy...

HHH is wigging out there's the excuse for Hennig's win.

HHH, mater of the sell.

HHH likes Ozarka

LOL. Only HHH can stop a countout.

I like that stupid spiny thing, I mean c'mon the peoples elbow for Christ sake.

Chioda always sounds like that.

Oooh! Are they gonna go the HBK-Owen "I was responsible for you passing out" thing? That would work...

Ring the bell already Curtis Axel wins.

FIGHT!

He drugged??

Match gets called and Hennig gets to say he beat HHH so bad that he had to quit.

Well, that was strange.

lol that was pretty good

THATS IT??????

The fuck is this shit?!