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Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:25 PM

ARMBAR

slik 05-30-2016 10:26 PM

So AJ gets shipped to Smackdown to be a low-rent copy of Seth Rollins. Yawn.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-30-2016 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 4818320)
I am a realist.

Just enjoy the moment for what it is.

Emperor Smeat 05-30-2016 10:26 PM

Jericho should beat up Ziggler right now for that disgraceful attempt at the 1004 Moves list.

Emperor Smeat 05-30-2016 10:27 PM

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WWE should keep this as a tradition and call May 30th "Beat Up Cena Day"

Simple Fan 05-30-2016 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4818319)
I think turning AJ heel is dumb.

Why? Him and Roman lit it up when he was a face and it was the best Roman had ever been. Could you imagine how much better it would have been if AJ wasfull heel?

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:30 PM

Hate the red lights for Corbin..... he's no Demon.....

owenbrown 05-30-2016 10:30 PM

Corbin vs Ziggler part 347159215218905390582113473921739721984798132

evanbrown 05-30-2016 10:30 PM

CENATION will RISE ABOVE AJ I HATE YOU STYLES

Outsider 05-30-2016 10:31 PM

Bit of Rick Steiner there.

Lets hope he doesn't hold Edge and Christian down.

Emperor Smeat 05-30-2016 10:31 PM

Don't think a nut kick counts as a technical style wrestling move.

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:31 PM

Becky Lynch gets a big face moment! Only some of the crowd care though.

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:31 PM

Good pay off to that segment!!!!

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:31 PM

Dolph Ziggler - Man of 1005 Holds?

Dark One 05-30-2016 10:31 PM

6 star segment

Triple A 05-30-2016 10:35 PM

http://www.usanetwork.com/videos/live now plays all the commercials instead of generic rock music...

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:36 PM

Dolph Ziggler looked better there than he has in years.

Mercenary 05-30-2016 10:37 PM

Was she seriously reading a cue card there

Simple Fan 05-30-2016 10:37 PM

Social Outcast totally going to win the IC title on set now.

Outsider 05-30-2016 10:38 PM

Tonight has needed more Kevin Owens.

Savio 05-30-2016 10:38 PM

League of nations 2

Bad News Gertner 05-30-2016 10:38 PM

owenbrown I want to lick your face

Dark One 05-30-2016 10:39 PM

Jericho + KO forever

tman220 05-30-2016 10:39 PM

who will the last person be?

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:39 PM

money money money money money

slik 05-30-2016 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4818334)
Why? Him and Roman lit it up when he was a face and it was the best Roman had ever been. Could you imagine how much better it would have been if AJ wasfull heel?

Because he's a low-rent version of Rollins now. He'll be the Rollins of the B show. WWE already has a skinny guy whose a main-event heel and acts like Edge. They don't need two of those.

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:40 PM

Web-camming with The Miz is a genuinely creepy experience.

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:41 PM

I like the idea of The Miz being away with the belt and giving us long-winded updates.

Dark One 05-30-2016 10:41 PM

Based on this last hour of Raw vs the previous two hours, they should have a brand retraction and go back to one hour of TV a week

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:41 PM

Holy fuck, that KO/Jericho/Del Rio segment was fucking gold.

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:43 PM

Jericho
Owens
Del Rio
Ambrose
Cesaro
Zayn
Cena
Styles
Anderson
Gallows
New Day
Ziggler
Enzo
Cass
Dudleys
Charlotte
Becky
Natalya

These are the guys that have delivered tonight on RAW. I'd be happy if that were the roster.

Triple A 05-30-2016 10:47 PM

Warriors pulling away... 71-58 with 43.8 remaining in 3rd qtr

Simple Fan 05-30-2016 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4818357)
Because he's a low-rent version of Rollins now. He'll be the Rollins of the B show. WWE already has a skinny guy whose a main-event heel and acts like Edge. They don't need two of those.

What gives you that impression? Rollins literally ran from a fight tonight and Styles had to be pulled off Cena.

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:49 PM

Good to see Cesaro Sleeve back again..... should never be without it....

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:49 PM

When did Del Rio get that tattoo.... is it new....

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:50 PM

Audio buzzing back.... really annoying.....

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:51 PM

Ok, buzzing gone..... must be something in the arena there.......

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:51 PM

STUPID IDIOT

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:52 PM

Jericho should win MitB

slik 05-30-2016 10:52 PM

We'll see if AJ as a 'cowardly, opportunistic' heel is good...I'll give it a chance but it's not the right path imo.

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:52 PM

Kevin Owens will win MitB

drave 05-30-2016 10:53 PM

Yup

Dark One 05-30-2016 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4818366)
When did Del Rio get that tattoo.... is it new....

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slik 05-30-2016 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4818364)
What gives you that impression? Rollins literally ran from a fight tonight and Styles had to be pulled off Cena.

Both are skinny
Both are technical and high-flyers
Rollins had J&J Security
Styles has The Club
Both have dark hair
Both wear long dark tights

Both are copies of Edge pretty much (minus the hair and Super promo skills)

slik 05-30-2016 10:54 PM

I don't like but I'll give it a chance...

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:56 PM

I'm still thinking Ambrose wins MITB, but I have a feeling Del Rio could take it too.

drave 05-30-2016 10:58 PM

Edge sucked.

drave 05-30-2016 10:58 PM

It would be like Dean Ambrose doing a spear. "WTF - I was speared by a toothpick :|"

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 10:58 PM

I could see this match ending with some sort of outside interference from the last participant in Money in the Bank. Maybe someone returning from a swamp somewhere.

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 10:59 PM

Ambrose wins it if the plan is for him to cash it in the same night

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 11:00 PM

I could honestly see him holding the briefcase forever and then even losing it.

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 11:00 PM

I could see a whole bunch of Chokeslams coming tonight too.

drave 05-30-2016 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4818386)
Ambrose wins it if the plan is for him to cash it in the same night

It'd be hilarious for him to take it from Rollins the same night he wins it back and gets the "last laugh".

Emperor Smeat 05-30-2016 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4818372)
We'll see if AJ as a 'cowardly, opportunistic' heel is good...I'll give it a chance but it's not the right path imo.

If they keep it similar to how he was in Japan, he will be good. Bullet Club's best strength is the numbers game and Cena doesn't have his own Family to ruin things. Doubt they'd go the coward way for his heel turn but the opportunistic part fits well.

Cena probably going to squash the group like with every "overcoming the odds" feud but at least on paper the matches should be better than the Reigns-Styles feud.

slik 05-30-2016 11:04 PM

I never watched AJ before WWE b/c 'lol tna' so we'll see Smeat

@drave yeah his spear sucked but other than that Edge was the best heel from 2003-2012 they had IMO

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 11:04 PM

Cena has teamed with The Usos a lot in the past. He will just use Roman Reigns' family as his family too.

slik 05-30-2016 11:05 PM

yeah, the matches should be good

Dark One 05-30-2016 11:08 PM

Last hour was good. First two hours were probably the worst in history.

I rate it two confused Ric Flairs out of five.

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Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 11:10 PM

Rollins shouldn't be a heel right now anyway.

drave 05-30-2016 11:12 PM

Rollins is the perfect heel.

Simple Fan 05-30-2016 11:13 PM

Really forgot how much watching Raw live sucks. Usually start watching at about an hour and a half in so I don't have to watch commercials and replays. Thought the first 2 hours were shit. The last hour was pretty solid though. Glad they put Styles with The Club as I didn't want Styles to be a phoney face like Reigns or Cena. Kind of the opposite of slim. I'm thinking Orton is going to return and get the last spot in the ladder match.

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4818413)
Rollins is the perfect heel.

They should be riding his comeback momentum and the telling the story of how he has rebuilt himself. If it doesn't work you can always turn him heel later.

slik 05-30-2016 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4818229)
Be a star.

gives Poit a low blow

...

...

:shifty:

SPOILER: show
I kicked him in the nuts, get your mind outta the gutter

drave 05-30-2016 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4818416)
They should be riding his comeback momentum and the telling the story of how he has rebuilt himself. If it doesn't work you can always turn him heel later.


BUT REIGNS STRONG!!!!!!

Mr. Nerfect 05-30-2016 11:15 PM

That sound like a Reigns promo, only with more emotion.

drave 05-30-2016 11:17 PM

http://static3.thesportsterimages.co...10/k7o4CXj.jpg

Droford 05-30-2016 11:21 PM

Rollins thing on the network is good

slik 05-30-2016 11:23 PM

They could have had the biggest heel turn ever if they would've let Cena denounce America on Memorial Day and align with Russian Lana.

slik 05-30-2016 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4818373)
Kevin Owens will win MitB

Agreed

Lock Jaw 05-30-2016 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4818432)
Rollins thing on the network is good

Have you seen Rollins thing on the internet?

Emperor Smeat 05-31-2016 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4818435)
They could have had the biggest heel turn ever if they would've let Cena denounce America on Memorial Day and align with Russian Lana.

Hopefully the stuff about him being the gatekeeper again actually leads to him gradually becoming more delusional and arrogant over time till he finally snaps on the new gen and crowd.

Should have done it with the Open Challenge series but the WWE wimped out twice with it.

Volare 05-31-2016 12:17 AM

Had to watch it after work....Yay Club and Styles.

Lol at Rollins.

That's all I got sadly.


I can get behind these 2 though.

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VSG 05-31-2016 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4818345)
http://www.usanetwork.com/videos/live now plays all the commercials instead of generic rock music...

Yeah it's the same on my Xfinity Live TV thingy also. So much food ads on US television..

Dark One 05-31-2016 12:49 AM

If tonight was the best they can do to fill three hours with a "full" roster, I'm terrified of what it's going to be with two separate rosters.

There is no hope. Only darkness. Like that Rusev gif.

Fignuts 05-31-2016 01:01 AM

The Ziggler segment was the greatest thing ever.

XL 05-31-2016 04:27 AM

What happened with the Hatch!?

Fignuts 05-31-2016 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4818482)
What happened with the Hatch!?

Goldberg is in wwe2k17

XL 05-31-2016 05:52 AM

Yeah, just read that. Weak.

Mr. Nerfect 05-31-2016 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 4818459)
Had to watch it after work....Yay Club and Styles.

Lol at Rollins.

That's all I got sadly.


I can get behind these 2 though.

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That's probably the best promo Becky has ever cut with the company. :y:

Mr. Nerfect 05-31-2016 09:18 AM

When Dolph kicked Baron in the balls and was basically "cool heeling" it, I thought to myself: "You know, I really wouldn't mind it if he joined Styles, Gallows & Anderson." I know people have stiffies for Finn Balor getting called up and joining them or whatever, but I think it would genuinely help Dolph more. He kind of fits their vibe too. 8-man tags with him, Styles, Anderson & Gallows against Cena & The New Day would be pretty fun too.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-31-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4818495)
Yeah, just read that. Weak.

It's not like they made a huge deal about it on the show. It was the fans who implied it was going to be something awesone. That's on us for reading into something they never mentioned.

Simple Fan 05-31-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4818526)
When Dolph kicked Baron in the balls and was basically "cool heeling" it, I thought to myself: "You know, I really wouldn't mind it if he joined Styles, Gallows & Anderson." I know people have stiffies for Finn Balor getting called up and joining them or whatever, but I think it would genuinely help Dolph more. He kind of fits their vibe too. 8-man tags with him, Styles, Anderson & Gallows against Cena & The New Day would be pretty fun too.

I think he would fit in with the group especially being a heel. I think it would almost be a sin not to put Balor with them though and I think 5 is to many. He is the original leader of Bullet Club and has been hyping up The Club ever since their signings were announced. I think Balor should debut at MitB and help AJ beat Cena or not even finish the match and have it just end in another John Cena beat down and the next night they claim to be Bulletproof.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-31-2016 12:25 PM

It was a cool angle and I was impressed by AJ's ability to go from beloved face character who was actually kind of bland "depth" wise, to absolutely vicious way more interesting heel. (I liked AJ's straight laced face character but he was very by the book... which worked for him).

However, the only problem I foresee is what the whining Owens of the world do foresee. There's going to be some very generic superman booking... AJ may get one win with help from his homies, and then Cena will probably beat him AND the club in a bajillion on one handicap match and then they settle in as an entertaining and probably quite prevalent upper mid card act.

I do believe the cream rises to the top and much like Kevin Owens at the very least AJ will be a go to guy, but not even being "down" on the booking or writing, it just isn't their (AJ) style(s) to run with a fun dominant heel act that isn't their own creation. They really believe that Cena/Reigns/Orton or whomever is super face de jour have to be kept strong unless HHH is the heel and it's in the early mid 2000s.

Also, it is super cool that AJ has this opportunity at this point of his career to be featured agains Cena in such a high profile feud, whether he goes over or not. He will surely put on show after show, and I do think him making Roman look so good got him over with the top dogs who make the decisions. I am interested to see where it goes. What I don't look forward to is Stephanie aligning herself with OR castrating the club, but again, that's the booking style and we can just fast forward those parts :p

Innovator 05-31-2016 12:37 PM

Cena's track record against 3 man stables doesn't bode well for the Club, unless a sexy Demon debuts

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-31-2016 12:42 PM

lol nor does his record against stables of over 4 men.

At some point, big match John needs to put his foot down and actually decide to REALLY put someone over strong.

Dark One 05-31-2016 12:55 PM

I'm going to be cautiously optimistic based on reports of the higher ups being big on AJ after his matches with Roman. This isn't a Bray or Rusev kind of thing. AJ is a very special talent beyond even those two.

Owens is the closest parallel but I don't think he was on AJ's level at that point.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-31-2016 01:13 PM

Also, AJ has come in and played some serious ball. He's put over Jericho, Reigns and Owens, and he's still mega over. Whereas Owens and Bray are still liked but not a "big deal" like AJ.

drave 05-31-2016 01:20 PM

When they take the chains off Owens, he will shine just as much, if not more than AJ. He is so on top of his game both on and off screen it is silly. Dude just "gets it" and has "it".


The Start/Stop of the Wyatts has left me indifferent about them, which is fucking wank because they should be "booked" or w/e much better. That stable is one of the most unique things done in a while, like what they wanted Waylon Mercy to be but he just couldn't get to Wyatt's level.

Needs to be a summer of Wyatts just unleashing hell on everyone and anyone.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-31-2016 01:36 PM

Owens is the best in the business right now. But politically, AJ hasn't gotten the signature "I beat John Cena clean" win and is still mega over, and he's pretty much done nothing but lose. I just feel, the office may see him as a big time team player but also having some potential as a draw.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-31-2016 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4818109)

This is indeed the darkest timeline.

GD 05-31-2016 03:34 PM

Seems like that lady is giving Seth Rollins a blow job.

XL 05-31-2016 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4818540)
It's not like they made a huge deal about it on the show. It was the fans who implied it was going to be something awesone. That's on us for reading into something they never mentioned.

Not so much that. Previously we had Sting for the first ever time in a WWE game, Terminator as a playable character, even Lesnar's inclusion was a surprise as he hadn't re-debuted at that point.

Goldberg has been in plenty of WWE games, he's nothing new or exciting. Maybe they'll do a Showcase with him.

XL 05-31-2016 04:40 PM

As for AJ, would it be cool if he beat Cena at MITB and they end up on different shows via the Brand Split, with Cena unable to avenge the loss, and AJ bragging about it? Could drag it out to the first point they do a cross-brand programme, ideally they cross paths in the Rumble, perhaps with The Club helping dump Cena out, leading to a match at Mania.


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