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Triple A 12-10-2018 10:59 PM

This is pretty good

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:00 PM

This is so weird. Like, WWE doesn't usually care if they suck. They actively point it out then don't change anything. But they went with turning it into an angle, which suggests that they understand their perception with fans, but their answer is to focus on Corbin and Slater.

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:01 PM

And Nattie. Can't forget old Farting Nat.

slik 12-10-2018 11:01 PM

Good main-event imo

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:02 PM

Can't even be bothered to stream it, lol.

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:04 PM

Gable apparently wearing trunks is probably the most exciting development.

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:05 PM

Good look for him, actually. He's in shape, so why not show it off? I can see this helping change perception of him too.

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:06 PM

Who won the main event?

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:07 PM

Has this show put everyone to bed?

slik 12-10-2018 11:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Given the number of empty seats and the fans rooting against the management, I could be at Raw or a football game in Carson <a href="https://t.co/IubN1A0POz">pic.twitter.com/IubN1A0POz</a></p>&mdash; chris, wrestling fan (@sportsbrain) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportsbrain/status/1072299600671838209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:12 PM

Hahaha. I always get a laugh out of that. Like, wrestlers cutting their promos looking into empty seats and then believing the company line of they're doing awesome.

slik 12-10-2018 11:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know the arena is half empty when the set is in the corner of the screen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFNgkV2d2e">pic.twitter.com/MFNgkV2d2e</a></p>&mdash; KingSchmidt (@realschmidtking) <a href="https://twitter.com/realschmidtking/status/1072310550317674497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5204697)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know the arena is half empty when the set is in the corner of the screen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFNgkV2d2e">pic.twitter.com/MFNgkV2d2e</a></p>&mdash; KingSchmidt (@realschmidtking) <a href="https://twitter.com/realschmidtking/status/1072310550317674497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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:lol:

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:17 PM

Eh, they've got no one to blame but themselves.

slik 12-10-2018 11:23 PM

It's a combo of:


Big Names missing in action

Product being 'really bad' overall for a long period of time

Ticket prices being too expensive for many, people w/ kids in particular.

Mr. Nerfect 12-10-2018 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5204703)
It's a combo of:


Big Names missing in action

Product being 'really bad' overall for a long period of time

Ticket prices being too expensive for many, people w/ kids in particular.

It sucked before the big names disappeared. Like, I do appreciate Cena, but it's not like if him and Reigns were back things would be good. The ticket prices need to be high because no one is going, so you've got to milk what you can get.

Jordan 12-10-2018 11:36 PM

It's 3 hours man. We have NOTHING to look forward to. We are SPOILED. I used to DROOL over 1 hour of MONDAY NIGHT RAW per week. Then two hours was a gift from heaven. But now it's just too damn much. I'd like to watch Smackdown and NXT as well but I can only find time to sometimes watch Raw and all of the PPV's or Takerovers. I would like to watch more but it sucks and its too long and not worth it.

Jordan 12-10-2018 11:37 PM

Also for me personally I didn't have access to UPN til like 2002 so Smackdown never became a habit for me.

Jordan 12-10-2018 11:38 PM

Also I am drunk and have no idea what happened on Raw except Gable won the tag titles I think which is good but I know Raw this time of year is the shits.

Jordan 12-10-2018 11:40 PM

I feel like WWE has lost all of the mystique. There used to be so much unknown but the internet has slowly strangled the whole industry.

GD 12-10-2018 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5204670)
Yeah, I'm trying to impress people. That's why I blocked Dale and make fun of marks like Simple Fan. Idiot. I piss on you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5204682)
Come on, DAMN iNATOR. Take another crack. I want to smack you down again, you bitch.

Come on, Noid. DAMN iNATOR is harmless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5204690)
Gable apparently wearing trunks is probably the most exciting development.

It was :y:

slik 12-10-2018 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5204711)
Also I am drunk and have no idea what happened on Raw except Gable won the tag titles I think which is good but I know Raw this time of year is the shits.

main-event was good, you might dig it

Mr. Nerfect 12-11-2018 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5204709)
It's 3 hours man. We have NOTHING to look forward to. We are SPOILED. I used to DROOL over 1 hour of MONDAY NIGHT RAW per week. Then two hours was a gift from heaven. But now it's just too damn much. I'd like to watch Smackdown and NXT as well but I can only find time to sometimes watch Raw and all of the PPV's or Takerovers. I would like to watch more but it sucks and its too long and not worth it.

3 hours does not help, but if it goes back to 2 it's still going to suck. It's not like there is a good 2 hours sprinkled in there but it gets stretched out to 3.

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Originally Posted by Reverend David (Post 5204715)
Come on, Noid. DAMN iNATOR is harmless.

Of course he's harmless, but it doesn't change him acting like an asshole and like he's above it. Imagine acting as if the WWE makes sense and then calling others names.

Cool King 12-11-2018 04:21 PM

Raw was pretty much the same as last week and the week before and maybe the week before that.

I really don't watch Raw now and the only reason I record it and watch it is purely out of habit and also a tiny bit of feeling like if I miss an episode, then that would be the episode where something remotely entertaining and good happens but I'm always wrong.

The only matches I watched were the two involving Heath Slater as this whole "Referee Heath Slater" thing was the only thing that I had a shred of interest in.

To be fair, it is kinda different (and I like different). There's a new face appearing among the usual faces on Raw and it's Slater.

Also, I like Slater.

He's also being forced to be a referee which is also different from what we've been getting so far, so I decided to watch it and see where it went.

I was disappointed.

I don't get why Vince & Co. thought it would be a good idea to have Slater knock Rollins off the ladder and then eat a superkick from Rollins.

They actually managed to make people feel bad for Slater and he was a sympathetic character that could have easily have led to him being a popular face once he defied Corbin in some way or stood up to Lashley & McIntyre but no, instead, we get Slater screwing over a face and the face laying him out for doing so, much the great cheers of the crowd.

That moment just showed you that all the sympathy for Slater had gone.

We know that "Slater has no choice" and is doing it "because he has a family" but those excuses are just terrible, paper thin and cliché as all hell.

Micheal Cole's attempts at trying to make us feel sorry for Slater was just poor, as Cole himself didn't even sound like he felt sorry for Slater. Cole just sounded like his usual robotic self, yelling, reading lines and saying whatever is fed into his ear.

And don't even get me started on Renee at the announce table.

I can only hope that next week we see Corbin do something to Slater for "ruining his chances at becoming Intercontinental Champion" and not Slater either attacking or costing Rollins a match because of what happened this week and cementing Slater as a heel in the process.

Because that's clearly what Raw needs, more heels.

Cool King 12-11-2018 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5204534)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">�� <a href="https://t.co/P19gvXYX5f">pic.twitter.com/P19gvXYX5f</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1072322162051203074?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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My initial thought was that it looked exactly like a glitch from the WWE games.

XL 12-11-2018 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5204650)
If WWE gets desperate enough, I can see them doing a Raw/NXT invasion angle. I don't know why. It's just this hunch I've got. Vince and his guys against Triple H and his guys. All pretenses and feuds will be dropped in WWE style and you'll get Aleister Black, Johnny Gargano, Tommaso Ciampa, Velveteen Dream, EC3 and The Undisputed Era all on Raw. An attempt to hot-shot.

Leading to a huge multi-man match pitting where the fresh up-and-comers get buried.

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5204709)
It's 3 hours man. We have NOTHING to look forward to. We are SPOILED. I used to DROOL over 1 hour of MONDAY NIGHT RAW per week. Then two hours was a gift from heaven. But now it's just too damn much. I'd like to watch Smackdown and NXT as well but I can only find time to sometimes watch Raw and all of the PPV's or Takerovers. I would like to watch more but it sucks and its too long and not worth it.

Man, you’re doing it wrong. Honestly, dump Raw and watch SmackDown and NXT instead.

Mr. Nerfect 12-11-2018 07:34 PM

SmackDown was awful the week I watched recently outside a Daniel Bryan promo.


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