As someone who watched the horror film CM Punk was in, I can assure you he isn't a good enough actor for any of this to be a work

Don't care about any of this backstage shit but I hate the Young Bucks.

No. The 1st one was. The 2nd 1 was against a bum. No profights. And hasnt had any since. The guy completely humiliated punk effortlessly in comical fashion. But no the 2nd fight was a bum the likes of which we've never seen in mma before. The kind of bum we see in boxing to pad a guys record but never before in mma. Picked to give punk an easy win in his home town. And the guy mauled punk.

TBH Destor, Mike Jackson would probably maul you too.

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To his credit he has a good jaw for the screen. Classic movie chin

classic after the ppv rable

Lol This should be obvious. It’s like when someone jokes that their high school football team could beat the absolute worst NFL team.

Only in this case a bunch of bottom-of-the-barrel wrestling nerds who shit themselves at the thought physical or even verbal confrontation try to convince themselves it’s actually true to make themselves feel better about their own shortcomings.

And yeah, that 95% number is obviously more of an indictment toward wrestlers of today than it is praise toward Punk. Obviously we go back in time and that number drops to like 5%. Lol

Most wrestlers today haven’t been in a real fight.

Hell, I’d argue that many of them haven’t been in a fake fight.

You are being generous on that 5% :p

But this is a fair assessment, to be honest. I want both parties to lose, but if one has to win, I would go with the one that would improve the company overall. Especially if it fosters a "listen to the guys that have been there before. Even if you don't agree, you may be surprised" attitude in the back, which is severely lacking. Which is actually one of the issues with Hangman.

Like I said, fuck both of em, but Punk slightly less?

The Bucks aren’t in AEW to make money, create hot programs, or elevate the company they’re in. They’re in AEW to fart around with their friends. Why they didn’t book themselves to have their second match against red hot FTR for the tag titles at All Out is proof enough for me. They don’t need the trios titles and mooching off Kenny’s return, which has been uninspired from a storytelling pov, just tells me they’re not really interested in the things punk was highlighting; making money, selling tickets and selling ppvs.

Say what you will about Punk, what he said isn’t wrong. And I firmly believe he’d beat up the bucks lol

Hopefully shit will be sorted out backstage but it would be genuinely hilarious if Hangman, Omega, and The Bucks all ended up in WWE 4 years after WWE tried to stop AEW from happening.

So is Tony going to suspend Punk like he did Eddie for getting physical?

Be cause champion or not, thats a double standard if he doesn't.

I didn’t watch any of the show and have only read comments about what happened after. But man, whoever said AEW is the spiritual successor to WCW, they weren’t kidding.

I really can’t wait to see what the fuck happens at Grand Slam. Last year they threw out probably the closest thing to a PPV card on TV that they could’ve, on both Dynamite and Rampage.

People are very much expecting Punk/MJF and unless they’re gonna carry these real life tensions into story and do Punk/Hangman or Punk/Omega or something else like that I don’t see how it can be anything but Punk/MJF at that show.

Booking has been messy but they’ve got a chance to get some goodwill back. They drop the ball with this at their big stadium show and they might actively start to lose fans from what they thought was a reliable baseline.

Punk v Omega and the Bucks sounds due strictly because the latter three can’t cut convincing non dorky promos. I think they’ll save mjf v punk for full gear. Can’t see them moving the title off punk before then. And they should try to sell their third meeting as a huge ppv main event instead of a TV match.

Also hoping MJF just did a business transaction with Stokely to help him get the chip and that’s that. Tony doesn’t have a good track record with stables and MJF doesn’t need one.

completely false. punk has a raw lack of physical awareness that is truly unique, it is in no way hyperbole when a person says the marks could take CM Punk. The guy spent millions on training and doesnt know how to throw a jab. I dont mean he has a bad jab. I mean he has a cartoon representation of what a jab is supposed to look like. Joe Rogan said it best you could take a random guy you found at a gas station who does nothing but drink and smoke and in the worst case in 3 weeks he'd be better than CM Punk (who trained for years to be that bad btw.)

https://youtu.be/yxleZpWSKQE

its not a joke or a dig. he's uniquely ill suited for fighting. he's one of those guys that gets in a domestic and his girlfriend wins. the only people who defend him are people who never saw him, or are marks worked by his stuff that have never fought (formally or otherwise,) and/or cant do even the smallest amount of assessment with their eyes. if you could youd watch even the smallest amount of his footage and cringe at just how shockingly bad it is. Its likely theyre the only ones Punk could actually take because if you dont know enough to know you could kick his ass of all asses fighting is not for you. I recommend buying a gun.

Punk went into the UFC with a name he made elsewhere and took the spot of guys far more deserving than him, guys who spent their lives trying to make it to that stage, and was humiliated in a way that had never happened before outside of those celebrity boxing train wrecks all while getting a nice paycheck that should have been going to more deserving people.

I can understand coming from a place of ignorance on the topic, thats fair. maybe you dont follow the sport or you never got around to seeing those fights. maybe violence just isnt your thing. fair enough. but to pretend like is anything other than the physical comedy that is is preposterous. he is not "good for an amateur but bad for a pro" he isnt even "good for a bar and bad for a pro."

A highschool wrestling team could score a takedown on punk 9 out of 10 times. find me any YMCA boxing enthusiast and i promise they can take punk at will until their arms give out. and then theres the ground game. he couldnt win a women's league. and the only people who wouldnt take everything i just literally are punk marks.

Ace Steel bit Kenny Omega.


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Destor has CENANUFF!

Happy 15,000th post Frank Drebin!

This, 100%. It is why I was against Punk being in any position other than a nostalgia showcase. That doesn't mean he always had to lose, just not be the badass, because he is not.

His match against Darby, where he sat up to counter the coffin drop and chuckled, that worked because it was a vet using his brain to barely beat an up and comer.

Having him outfight the killer that is Mox, it is just illogical.

From Meltzer

https://i.postimg.cc/VvVT0305/Punk.png

Dang Ace Steele did one mediocre promo and then got his ass fired

Hardcore

This. :y:

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I mean, if the bucks and hangman were the ones starting rumors about colt being fired or resigned to ROH true, then they already proved punks point.

I also don’t see how anyone expects him to just sit there and have all these rumors floating around and expect him to say nothing

@Destor

Take that entire description and you’re describing an average mark. Now add SOME training, experience, stamina, athleticism, etc. and you’ve got Punk. You’re judging Punk as uniquely unqualified to fight because he actually tried against other pro fighters and there’s video evidence. As bad as he was, you can’t seriously hear “the marks could take him” and think of that as anything but hyperbole.

https://www.pwinsider.com/article/16...-know.html?p=1

From Fightful Select: https://www.patreon.com/posts/more-on-ace-cm-71577767

Steele should be rightfully fired immediately.

I don’t know why Kenny and the bucks thought it was a good idea to go into Punk’s locker room. Instead of being executives and reaching out to set up a meeting, you know, like real executives.

Regardless, Tony needs to squash this shit ASAP because it is fucking toxic to his company and its perception and it’s once again overshadowing what was a killer main event IMO and the return of asédialo their most talked about star.

Thing is, literally nobody asked him about it. Punk opened the scrum by specifically calling on a reporter he knew did improv with Colt, hence Punk baiting him by asking "do you still do improv? Who did you do improve again?" he wanted Colt's name out there to justify beginning his tirade. So he seemingly went into this scrum fully intending on doing what he did, and he said repeatedly "it's a real shame I have to spend time addressing this" when, again, nobody even asked a question about it.

Also despite his beef with Hangman for "going into business with himself" and the EVPs for starting the rumors (and again, SRS was the first one to bring up the Colt speculation and he's said the EVPs were not his source)...he spent a lot more time dragging Colt than anyone else.

For a guy who supposedly wants nothing to do with Colt anymore he sure enjoyed discussing his lawsuit in the open, calling him a leech, dragging his financial situation and on multiple times bringing up the fact that he has a shared bank account with his mom. Colt hasn't said a word about Punk publicly in years and is basically persona non grata in AEW, so why's Punk going out of his way to shit on him?

Just very strange behavior IMO.

Surely the answer to all of this is that Adam Page decided to bring up the situation on live TV and air out something personal in a really unprofessional way?

If the whole situation is anyone’s fault, it’s his for bringing backstage tension and gossip on to their TV show and trying to cut out the legs of their biggest star?

so it's really smart to double down and shit your pants about it after a ppv in a super professional manner

I HATE TO EVEN SAY THE NAME SCOTT COLTON

*talks about scott colton for 15 minutes*

all of these guys are dumbasses really so whatever

4 the cultists

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The Bucks and Omega are instigating wankers. They shouldn’t be EVPs. Also, they suck as wrestlers.

I don't think saying they suck as wrestlers is fair to say, they just need more of a filter on them. They're like Russo without Vince. They've just gotta tone down the act (I'm speaking more so about the Bucks than I am about Omega).

I dont want MJF to be a babyface , and I dont want Punk to be a heel but it seems to be going that way.

I feel a heel MJF as a chicken shit champion, and a babyface chasing - having to run the gauntlet is a better draw. The question is , is Punk that babyface?

If there is anything you can trust in AEW, it's Maxwell Jacob Freidman being able to promo his way around this mess and put the spotlight squarely back on himself when all is said and done. The moment might have been spoiled, but I personally believe he can make himself the story again. Probably using the scrum aftermath in his promo.

MJF is good, but what was the point in keeping him off TV? Unless he was just sorting shit out. But why not use the Wardlow thing as the write-off?

Why have press conferences after Wrestling PPV’s? Just seems like a bad idea.

Maybe it was a combination of him being a little banged up, Punk getting injured and his last promo going off script?

I hate them. I want wrestling to be in kayfabe as much as possible. These press conferences are just too much shop talk for me. I get that some people are going to love that, and you don’t have to watch them, but eh. There’s a reason MJF works so much better than just about anyone else in wrestling, and it’s because he treats his craft with sincerity.

While I enjoy the influx of information, I totally agree. They are trying to be like NJPW except there they don't break kayfabe and talk about booking plans and decisions and the psychology of the booker leading up to making decisions.

Gonna laugh when Punk holds the title hostage and insists he goes over MJF, Omega, Hangman or whoever and refuses to work otherwise.

As he should.

Punk also took quotes from a Hangman seminar hilariously out of context. In that seminar, Hangman admitted that he isn't the best at taking advice, that he listens and appreciates the help but prefers a trial and error approach to his character and that's always been what he finds works best for him. Mind you he said all of this in a pretty meek way, and while he was already World champion.

Punk acted like Hangman was on some shoot rant taking a giant dump on the veteran minds in the locker room. "This fucking piece of shit dumbfuck Adam Page thinks he's too good to take advice with all the minds we have back here? Get the fuck out of here!"

You’re the king of taking things out of context.

I’ve enjoyed punks run for the most part but man I’d be shocked if he makes it to the end of his contract

LOVE THIS

There's a thought that Punk might be hurt and might've torn his pec in the fight. Lmfao

"If you have a problem with me, take it up with me, let's fucking go."

*people take it up with him, he immediately gets hurt*

WELP

Tony needs to just send Phil packing.

Should make him drop the title to Colt on Wednesday.

Yikes

Meltzer saying Punk might have torn his bicep or pec and might be out with injury / have to forfeit the title

It looked like he tore his biceps or something during the match, he kept checking his arm repeatedly

What a mess...

Meltzer also says that if Ace Steele is punished for his involvement that Punks gonna want to walk.

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I still think he’s worth it.

It’s possible he might not be able to physically do it anymore since he’s getting hurt a lot, but he’s such a good talker.

I thought his whole “shoot promo” was riveting. I’d keep him no matter what.

As he should.

Really hope they fire Ace then.

2 birds with one stone.

LOL!

I also love how the story has changed as more info gets out. It went from Punk knocking out a Young Buck (impossible for Punk) to it was actually Ace Steele throwing a chair at Nick Jackson, and that, not a Phil fist, it why his face is marked up.

Bischoff was right, Phil really truly believes that because he wins fake fights he can win real ones.

Thing is he’s useless as just a mouth piece for them. If he’s hurt again, he should forfeit the title and they should just move forward without him. Maybe he comes back again but at this point he’s a liability who’s just ruining storylines because he can’t stay healthy

But then no more Punk :(

Yeah if he's hurt again they gotta stop pushing him at the very least. Kinda curious what they do with the title this time if it's true though.

I like watching Punk and I don't like watching the Young Bucks so my solution is to fire the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, Michael Nakazawa and to keep Brandon Cutler bc Cutler is entertaining.

Problem solved.

I second that motion.

Also, just to be safe, Tony should also release Kyle O'Reilly

If Punk actually walks, that’s surely the end of the line for him in wrestling unless he wants to go have fun with Freddie Prinze Jr. or something.

If the Elite walked I think they’d definitely get WWE offers. I mean they already got offers back when WWE were in their “sign everyone” stage and while they turned them down, I don’t sense Triple H felt slighted by it given what happened. I suspect Triple H would genuinely welcome Omega on WWE programming. Less so the Bucks but I think he’d give them a short-term deal just for the flex of knowing he got all of their EVPs.

fire punk and the evps. fuck em all. idiots.

If he’s hurt again just take the title off of him and use him in a part-timer role. It’s a good excuse to make his matches feel more special. Kinda like they should have done early on.

Hold another talent meeting. Have Arn Anderson threaten to shoot anyone who gets out of line.

Problem solved.

I wonder how many guys in the back are watching this unfold and just counting the days until their contracts are up?

Can see MJF trying to cash in on Punk, they say Punk is hurt and isn't cleared and MJF insists Punk forfeit and hand him the title or he'll walk again.

Then punk comes back in 9 months and resumes feud with MJF, probably at a show conveniently held in Chicago.

Well, Ace has better aim than Cody it seems.

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This shit is bananas

B-A-N-A-N-A-S

Drebin just reminded me that it's now PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

With a base ball bat?

I mean....how can a wrestling fan not be looking forward to wtf Dynamite is gonna be at this point? Could be the biggest train wreck we've seen since Victory Road.

I hope Punk provides baked goods for everyone and everyone eats while cutting promos for Triple A's sake.

Please let the Acclaimed have a match just for the entrance rap, btw.

100% work. This is the receipt to MJF for the Double or Nothing shenanigans. Nobody is talking about his return/match with Punk. Punk and the EVPs have put the spotlight firmly on them.

Changed my mind. 100% a shoot. No way these guys can coexist. Give Dynamite to Punk, and The Elite can have Rampage.

SRS has spoken to a number of talent who believe Punk is gonna end up getting let go.

Because things keep getting weirder by the minute....my guess now is that somehow things will be worked out for Punk to stick around, he'll defend the belt against MJF at Grand Slam.

And, because we live in hell, he'll just grab the title and walk out mid-match and we'll be left even more confused than we already are.

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Well now we know what Brandon Cutler and Michael Nakazawa think about the situation.

The solution to all AEW’s problems is bringing in Paul Jones as a manager if he’s still alive. Or Gary Hart.

WHO GONNA BE A BALD HEADED GEEK???

Imagine choosing the young bucks over CM Punk lol. Punk is a pain in the ass but he’s not a goofy nerd interested in playing wrestler with their friends

This CM Punk thing for the past few weeks has to be a work, right? There's no way this much horse shit goes down week after week with this guy and he's not legit fired yet.

It's a really good work if it is. They have me fooled

and the MJF thing. work? Why are there so many shoots going on in this company lol. Is Russo booking?

You’re surprised that a perennial malcontent would be a constant pain in the ass?

Which dirt sheet do people think Punk is talking to?