Poor Everton :(

I love Bolton for taking that fuckwit away from Merseyside. He's like a fucking camel, always spitting like a dirty like fuck.

Everyone else in the country gets threatened with jail and a 10k fine for not having a TV license. Nice to see the rules apply to everyone.

Diego Forlan has apparently promised to make Everton pay for his nightmare spell in the Premiership.

It's fucking hilarious. After celebrating their entry into the champions league so hard, they won't even get into the group stages! It's comedy gold! :rofl:

"He comes from Uruguay. He'll make the scousers cry. DIEGO!"

Real Madrid have signed Baptista and are about to sign Robinho. See ya later Micky Owen.

Students on £3,000 a year (a loan, no less) get fined £1000.
A dirty, spitting Senegalese badboy reject on £15,000 a week is fined £100.

Dam you Birkenhead Magistrates! :mad:

Hello, Michael. Welcome home, all is forgotten :D

If by home you mean "Arsenal" or "Manchester Utd"

Yeah I wouldn't mind Owen. We'll have him for about £4 million and he could warm our bench.

Owen would have a starting place in any front line in the premiership.

Benitez is apparently not a fan, and although I am a huge Owen mark, I won't disagree with him. He won the European Cup and for that, he can think or do anything he wants.

So, it indeed looks like Arsenal or Man Utd

Arsenal are currently playing Ajax in the Amsterdam tournament. They look naked without Viera.

Sunday Times last week said Manchester United are the only club with a registered interest in Owen.

That was last night. The Lord giveth and he taketh away: Lupoli's goal is class. Another Wenger gem unearthed.

Was it? Dam you Sky Sports 3 for making me look like a fool.

He'd be a classic addition to Arsenal. Bergkamp has started playing behind the strikers (and he seems to does it really quite well) and that spanish kid reyes will be off before the end of the season.

Reyes just signed a new long term contract, and Bergkamp has always played as an advanced midfielder rather than a striker.

Is this you just hoping he doesn't sign for United?

He'd be a great signing for either side. An extra 25-30 goals a season.

Motherwell just went 4-3 up against Celtic :lol:

So what bets are people putting on this year?

Im only having 4 which are :

Kezman to win the golden boot award

Lampard to score more goals than Gerrard

Celtic to finish 3rd or 4th

Middlesbrough to finish in the top 6.

Those are 4 dodgy bets

The Lampard one is the only realistic bet.

Wtf is with Celtic? :|

Should get good odds for it too as Gerrard already has 6.

Kezman ala Forlan, (good record outside of England), has a point to prove.

Hearts and Hibs are the teams to watch out for in Scotland this year, I htink Rangers will win it but these 2 will fight it out for second place.

Boro, if they stay clear of injuries have a decent chance of finish in the top six, however there are about 7 other teams which are the same so ive gone for the tam I support.

Spurs will either finish in top six or win one of the cups this year IMO.

Its a learning year for them, Strachan shouldnt be judged until at least christmas. He will do well for them but not until next season as he wll then have sussed out his squad properly.

I think they are going to have a few dodgy results this season.

Come on then MMM, you normaly claim to win quite a few bets so what are your tips for this season? ;)

lol thought you might say that. I normally bet game-to-game, far easier to make a few bob that way.

With regards to the 4 you put up there:

1) Kezman's record at PSV was phenomenal, but it remains to be seen whether he can regain his confidence/form after last season. On top of that, Atletico are not that great of a team. Forlan did great last year but Villareal as a team really overachieved, I don't think Atletico will.

2) Is probable but no guarantee, if Chelsea keep everyone fit they might end up playing 4-4-2 more than they did last year, which will restrict Lampard's forward runs a bit. Added to that, if Alonso can stay fit and depending on how Benitez uses his main formation, Gerrard could spend a lot of time behind the striker(s). Mind you, Benitez has already said he'll be resting Gerrard, so barring a Lampard injury this one'll probably go. You mentioned the goals Gerrard has already, I dunno how/who you're doing the bet with but they might only count Prem goals, or I'd expect so.

3) If Hearts and/or Motherwell can keep their squads healthy and make a decent fist of it I'd be surprised but not shocked. However I've got to think Celtic still have too much for the rest to not finish in the top 2.

4) Eh, possible but I don't see it. While you keep adding more firepower the defence is getting older and older, and relying on Southgate and Ehiogu at their ages IMO is not a good idea.

I agree Spurs seem to have everything in place to make a decent fist of the league but we'll see how Jol handles a full season. They are unbelievably inconsistent recently. IMO Everton will be top 10, Bolton will probably hang around the top 8, Boro and Spurs will fight it out for the final UEFA Cup spot. Citeh and Villa will do well to finish at the higher end of midtable. Newcastle won't do anything while that defence is in place though they can't do worse than last year.

I'd be surprised if any of the promoted teams stay up too, although I think Fulham are going to really struggle as well as West Brom, and Pompey might as well depending on how the squad comes together (RBF :$ ) I'll give Sunderland the benefit of the doubt since Mackem will knock my bins over if I don't.

Far as winning it I can't look past Chelsea right now. The sheer strength in depth is overwhelming. We'll see how Arsenal cope without Vieira, he's been on the decline but he could still make a difference in this league. Man Utd could storm the league or slump about like they did last year, though Van Der Sar should in theory be a huge bonus. Liverpool should also push a lot harder this year

I'm gonna get crucified for this when the season finishes I'm sure but here's a rough guess at how the league will pan out:

1) Chelsea
2) Man Utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Bolton
6) Spurs
7) Boro
8) Everton
9) Newcastle
10) Charlton
11) Citeh
12) Birmingham
13) Villa
14) Pompey
15) Blackburn
16) Fulham
17) Sunderland
18) West Brom
19) West Ham
20) Wigan

Damn, that's a huge post :$

I don't think Champions League preliminary round games count towards goal totals.

Rangers are shit.

Celtic will still fairly comfortably come top or second, once Strachan sorts out the defence.

Kezman might score a few in Spain, but that doesn't mean he'll win the Golden Boot (I take it you mean the top scorer in Europe).

Boro will do nothing this season, as usual.

I agree with most of that, though i reckon sunderland will get relegated and west ham will stay up.And hopefully my newcastle team can get 6th place atleast but based on the performance against Deportivo, that 9th place your giving us we should be greatful for!

Everton lost 5-0 to Fenerbahce :$

Liverpool could play Sydney FC in the world club championship thing :eek: Isn't that Dwight Yorke's club now?

yeah

Apparently, Man Yoo will get Michael Ballack on a Bosman next year. That would be friggin sweet!

Arsene Wenger has ruled out signing Michael Owen.

And the Lyon chairman is saying Manchester United and Arsenal are both interested in Essien. Probably bollocks to put the shits up Chelsea and drive up the fee, though.

I'll be sending out PMs in a couple days to anyone who I think (at least, based on posting in this and past threads) would be interested in doing fantasy football this year. I'll set it up and run the thing, last time I took care of one a couple years back I had no complaints, unless anyone objects.

Anyway yeah check your PMs or just reply here if you're interested.

I'll probably join, give up after 3 weeks and leave my team as is for the rest of the season.

Can't believe Ogen beat me by one point last season

I'm interested

Correct!

Briane Deane signed for Perth Glory FC. Opinions, Downunder? :lol:

It'd be pretty funny if he scores the first ever goal in the new football A-League here (or as I like to call it, the gAy-League, as my club was shafted and not given the chance to join).

If Deane scores the first A-League goal it would go along nicely with his 'achievement' of scoring the first ever goal in the English Premier League.

If I was an aging English footballer, I'd be stupid not to sign for an A-League team. "Come live down in sunny Australia, get paid thousands a week, and play in a league where you'll be treated like a superstar".

I'll join, ive already joined a free one on the premier league site i think it was.

1) Chelsea :mad:
2) Man Utd
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Boro :shifty:
6) Spurs
7) Everton
8) Bolton
9) Citeh
10) Villa
11) Birmingham
12) Blackburn
13) Charlton
14) Newcastle :lol:
15) West Ham
16) Pompey
17) Sunderland :?:
18) West Brom :?:
19) Fulham :?:
20) Wigan :wavesad:

thats how I think it'll pan out

Viduka for Butt swop Aug 1 2005 by Eric Paylor, Evening Gazette

Mark Viduka could be Newcastle bound this week - with Nicky Butt coming to Teesside in an audacious swop deal.

The shock move has been instigated by Magpies boss Graeme Souness, who is desperate to strengthen his attack.

Viduka would fit the fill at St James's, while Steve McClaren will believe he can resurrect the career of Geordie flop Butt and solve his midfield dilemma.

For Viduka, a switch to Tyneside would enable the big Aussie to start again on an even keel following his Teesside injury agonies.

The Evening Gazette understands that the key to the deal taking place is Newcastle's willingness to offer a sizeable amount of cash to accompany the swop arrangement.

Boro would want somewhere in the region of £2m plus Butt, before allowing Viduka to go.

The Aussie was withdrawn from the second match of Boro's four-team tournament in the Algarve on Saturday night, which suggests that negotiations had already opened at that stage.

The talk of the swop will intrigue fans of both clubs, who will be weighing up who will get the better of the deal should it reach a conclusion this week.

Boro paid a massive £4.5m for Viduka just 12 months ago and, despite occasional fitness problems, he scored seven goals before Christmas.

However, a Boxing Day back injury at Birmingham City virtually ended his campaign and he lasted just ten minutes in an attempted comeback at Crystal Palace in April.

McClaren brought in new striker Yakubu for a whopping £7.5m this summer and the Nigerian looked set for a three-way tussle up front along with Viduka and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink.

But the Gazette revealed exclusively a few weeks ago that three could become two because Newcastle were keen on Viduka.

Now the Magpies have hardened up this interest, and the offer of Butt in return is very tempting for McClaren.

The 30-year-old former England international has endured a disastrous 12 months on Tyneside and was booed off by Newcastle fans in the FA Cup semi-final defeat by Manchester United.

But Butt knows McClaren well from their days together at Old Trafford and the Boro boss could help him to rediscover his best form.

Butt would also solve McClaren's dilemma - the manager having failed to snap up the quality ball player he has been seeking.

It's certainly not a deal made in heaven, but both clubs could benefit, especially if Boro could land a cash windfall as a result.

The one thing Boro fans would not want to see, however, is Viduka scoring goals on a regular basis for the Geordies





I honesly dont know if this would be a good deal or a bad one!

I'd take that if I was Boro.

Nicky Butt is crap. I'd rather have Viduka, on the off chance he stays clear of injury. Butt isn't so good on the old injury front himself.

Thats what I mean buy I dont know if its a good deal or not, I think id rather have Viduka incase he comes good but then again I wouldnt mind Butt alongside boatang.

I think this deal has a lot to do with Maccarone's return, as he's now back on wage bill, we might be looking to cut the wage bill and Viduka is no doubt on a good wage. So it might be better to sell him, get in someone on a slightly lower wage on a shorter contract along with a few mill transfer fee.

Also Malcum Christie is on the comeback trail at last. He is playing in a reserve fixture on wednesday. If he can stay fit id love it and id be happy to sell Viduka. Ypu guys prob wont agree but Christie has something about him and all the boro fans love him even tho he's been out for about 2 years.

He's a good player. I remember him being in a good run of form when he got injured in the first place. I remember seeing him torture Chelsea, last time I saw him in action.

You didn't see nothing Gatesy :foc:

lol

Norwich City have completed their swoop for Tottenham Hotspur youngster Dean Marney. The England Under-21 international has moved to Carrow Road on a season-long loan in a bid to further his career.

Skysports.com understand Wigan have made a move to try and sign unsettled Wolves striker Henri Camara.

Internazionale have confirmed the signing of Walter Samuel from Real Madrid.

Crystal Palace have called a press conference for nine o'clock Tuesday morning to clarify the position of star striker Andy Johnson.

Birmingham City look set to sign striker Walter Pandiani after finally agreeing a fee with Deportivo La Coruna.

Since Wigan are nouveau rich they can easily afford £5m for Camara :shifty:

And wow, I know Samuel didn't perform for Real but they must have pretty big confidence in Woodgate's ability to last a season to let him go.

unless they are thinking about playing Owen there :shifty:

Butt and Viduka are both fucking terrible.

Yo MMM hook me up with this fantasy football stuff.

I'll have a crack at this fantasy football too.

I agree with that, butt was aload of crap really.Viduka has potential if he stays injury free and actually starts to give a shit.

Yeah I'm up for a spot of Fantasy Football, count me in.

Very true. Well, treated by a superstar by those who know what the fuck football actually is.

Sky Sports News has said that Camara has today signed and has already booked tickets for his family for next season's matches against Stoke and QPR.

Owen would probably rather take his chances at Real for another bit than go to a joke club like Newcastle. No need for a world class player who's still young to go there.

Fucking BBC have the Celtic match on BBC2 Scotland. Wankers. I bet the atmosphere is incredible now. 3-0 up with half an hour to go.

Why would Owen choose NUFC? He's after Champions League football, the Toon can't even offer UEFA cup!

Good luck against Depo tomorrow night, you stupid geordie arseholes!

He's after regular football in World Cup year, he'd probably make the World Cup squad if he stays at Real but his starting place wouldn't be secure. Newcastle would worship Owen and he'd play every week, the signings Souness has made are quite good too, so as soon as Souness gets sacked they can probably push on for a top 6 place.

They can beat Deportivo at home and then i think it's Lazio or Marseille in the final, and they can beat both of them too, but i dont think Micky is too fussed about European football anyway.

The signings Souness has made are good? Put it into context, here. He has only managed to strengthen what was already the strongest part of his team - the midfield, yet has weakened his defence and strikeforce. Granted, signing Owen would be a step to improving the forward situation, but Owen would be mad to go there for anything other than a year long loan. Newcastle are a disaster area, and will be until the management throughout the club is shaken up, wholesale. That means Souness gone, and the club bought out and the chairman replaced by someone who isn't a fat, stupid shit.

lol ECG :heart:

I'd love Owen to sign, if he does I will jizz my pants.

I'm saying Emre and Parker are good players, that's all. I didn't say whether they were needed or not, but Davids, assuming he goes to Spurs, is a great signing for them, but at the same time they have loads of midfielders.

I didn't know they'd signed Craig Moore until i'd just seen it, that doesn't look great.

Craig Moore = most uninspiring signing in history. Souness needs to get some defenders in and a left winger...plus Owen

Owen is NEVER gonna go to Newcastle. I think it's Man United or Serie A at this point.

The Times are running a great Fantasy Football league in conjunction with Talk Sport this year. Yeh, I know its not 1995 anymore and fantasy football is about as cool as 1,000 posts on an wrestling internet forum, but it's worth investing in for a £5.

There's a £55m budget which I've spent on the following, what do you think?

Jaaskelian - £4m

Carvalho - £5.5m
Del Horno - £5m
Ledley King - £5m
Cygan - £2m (I know, but he's cheap and he'll fill in plenty whilst sicknote Campbell is out)

Berger - £4m (plenty of assists)
Scholes - £6m (goals from midfield!)
Ronaldo - £6.5m
Dyer - £4m

Defoe - £6.5m
Beattie - £3.5m

and Manager - David O'Leary - £3.5m

Jury's out on Davids, if what Mancini says is true and he's falling apart physically. He could be there for a big fat Dutch payday.

Also, Spurs have 3 top strikers and Freddi Kanoute, plus a strong defence. This is the context I'm talking about.

Gonna assume you haven't read the post on the previous page. Or maybe you have I dunno.

There's no such thing as assists in an Aston Villa midfield. They're shocking. Cygan isn't going to fill in anything unless Senderos is injured and Lauren has his annual suspension for trying to break someone's leg. Beattie's a big fat pie-eating loudmouth who I don't think has scored for Everton yet.

I wouldn't be surprised to see O'Leary walk before the end of the season either.

Arsenal will be Champs
 

Arsenal will win the title. Most people, it seems, expect Chelsea to win it, but so many so-called experts are writing off the Gunners simply because Vieira is gone.

However, Arsenal played their best football at the start of the season, when their CM players were Cesc and Gilberto. When Vieira returned, they were inferior. The only problem is that since Cesc is still young, he can't play a full season, which shown last season, when Cesc was played far too much, due to injuries to Edu, Gilberto & Vieira.

But, from what I've seen of Aleaksandr Hleb, he could play in CM. He is stronger than he looks, and in the short time he's been at the club, has been outstanding :y:

In the Ajax game, he dribbled very intelligently and gave Lupoli a great through ball, and then supplied a superb long pass to "On-Ree" who lobbed it over Stekelenburg...and missed.

Also, he was wonderful against Boca, and it seemed only Ljungberg was better than him, for Arsenal.

I agree with you completely. I think Vieira has been on wobbly legs for at least 2 seasons and should have been sold last year. He's shown worse effects from injury than Roy Keane, yet has not had remotely the same speculation over his form or career.

I agree with most of what you said.Though the signings Souness has made are good,the fact that we have so many midfielders isn't.The reason why i'm pleased we got Emre and Parker is because they're two midfielders who can actually play and creates chances,the rest of our midfield are a bunch of big headed twats, apart from maybe Jenas.I can see Owen coming to us, but the chances of that happening are very small.

I personally want our chairman (who i would call a criminal mastermind behind the scenes of football, check the story on the rooney transfer to see what i mean)to hand over to someone else. Sir John Hall was the best ever chairman for us, he really changed the club. He must be sickened by the way the club is being run right now.

Ive heard George Renolds is in the look out for a new club, can I please recomend him for newcastle! :lol:

Personally I think We (boro) have one of, if not the best chairman in the league.

Stevie Gibson is an absolute legend. He yesterday quashed the rumours of the Viduka - Butt swap stories, but says he enjoys speaking to Freddie Sheppard but they havent spoke about Viduka or Butt.

However, In his interview, he goes onto say we are in advanced talks with signing a centre midfielder. Im thinking it maybe someone from newcastle as why else would they be talking and newcastle have signed Parker, Emre and Lee Clark recently. With Butt ruled out by both chairmen, who else does that leave?

Dyer was linked with us earlier in the summer but that was ruled out, Butt is ruled out, Parker and Emre defo wont be sold so that only leaves two people IMO. We were in for Faye before he signed for them, however I see him as too similar to the Boat, so, with that said, JERMAINE JENAS for Boro ?????

I think you've wasted some money, but with any dream team you take the good with the bad. Defoe looks to be expensive as IMO i dont think he will play every game as Jol will alternate the main 3 so he could find himself on the bench a bit.

Beattie should come good this year however it depends on how Moyes plays it, if he goes with 2 up top then beattie will do well, but if he goes with beattie alone and an attacking midfielder just off him i dont think he'll score more than 12 goals all season.

Dyer and Berger are both injury prone so may be out quite a bit. Scholes and Ronaldo look to be good buys, my only concern would be how scholes plays if he's put in along side Smith as he may have to play slightly more defensive therefore limiting his game (but dont worry, the ginger git will still get you a goal or two against boro - he always does.)

You have a good keeper in Jaaskelian and Carvalho and Ledley King will score points for you. Del Horno may do well however i think this may depend on Wayne Bridge's return.

I wouldnt have picked David O'Leary as manager, however that may have been a cost thing, Stuart Pearce would have been my shout.

Birmingham City have signed Newcastle United midfielder Nicky Butt on an initial year-long loan. Blues have bagged Butt initially on loan with a view to sealing a £2 million deal come the season's end.

Tottenham have completed the capture of Dutch ace Edgar Davids on a free transfer from Internazionale. The 32-year-old has finalised personal terms and passed a medical at White Hart Lane and is set to don the famous Spurs shirt for the first time in Saturday's friendly against former European champions Porto.

Michael Owen has confirmed he has held talks with a number of Premiership clubs. Manchester United are reported to be leading the chase, although the likes of Chelsea, Newcastle, Everton, Tottenham, Birmingham, Arsenal, and his former club Liverpool are all thought to be interested - although the latter two have denied that they will make an offer.

Everton, Tottenham&Birmingham?haha. Especially@Birmingham.

LOL you've got to be joking. The only one i would think they're talking about is Bowyer.Jenas is not going anywhere, dream on.

I think I've worked it out, its Hugo Viana, it makes more sence than anyone else + he's a left footed attacking centre midfielder jus like we are after. Totally over looked him at first as forgot he is still registered to newcastle.

Ha Jenas to the smoggies? Yeah right.

Bowyer is about the only one you'll be able to get. Maybe Faye if he's fallen out of favour already.

See ya Butt you heap of unquestionable shit.

See my prev post, I think it'll be Hugo Viana ! Anyway, why wouldnt we be able to get Jenas ?

At least we can offer him EUROPEAN football this year :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ;)

Phil Neville to Everton for £3.5m

Oh deary me :nono:

I honestly never thought he would leave, every season he gets linked with moves (normally to us) but never goes, I thought this season would be the same.

You wont be able to get jenas because he is important to the future of the club. I havent read your previous post yet, but Viana is in talks with Benfica the last i heard. And think about it, who is Souness more willing to sell and who has been criticising our chairman?Think logically. Oh wait, you can't, your a boro fan.:lol:

And Boro offering eurpean football?Hahahaha. You'll be the whooping boys of the competition.Lets see you get drawn against Deportivo and see how well you do.Your not giving Deportivo enough credit.

Newcastle is a big club and will be for the future, we will be in europe again next season.Atleast we have the chance to attract players like Owen, i don't see you trying to get him.That kinda shows you who's the bigger club in the north east now doesn't it?

Give Strachan time.It's hard to attract players to Scotland, it kinda shows what Celtic are without Larsson, teams will no longer fear Celtic now until they get a player as good as him.Sometimes it is the players fault you know.

But yeah Strachan pushed the other manager in the last minuite of the game, got to give them credit for fighting back to 4-0.

Depor went through because Newcastle committed defensive suicide, again. Boumsong fucked up by leaving Andrade to try and head a ball he had no right to go for, one goal. Then Robbie Elliott proves once again his complete shitness, 2nd goal. Apart from that I didn't see Depor offer too much. They have a new manager and are trying to work to a new system, it seemed to me a few of the players are still struggling to piece things together. They won't last that long, I don't think.

As a Liverpool fan, I spent about three and a half minutes laughing at Sky Sports News this morning when I saw that. That's great news.

"If the Nevilles play for England, so can I!" :rofl:

Depor aren't all that great why do you think they are in the Intertoto in the first place? Newcastle are a big club but in stature only. In terms of players and organisation they are fucking shocking. And I'm a Newcastle fan. I know you are too but you are deluding yourself if you think Newcastle are going to walk back into Europe this season. I'm not saying they won't but it will be a struggle. The defence is thinner than last year and last year it was shambolic for most of the season. Up front we are thinner and are basically relying on Shearer who is now nearly 35. I think we will probably finish 9th or so unless more signings are made particularly in defence.

Gary Neville is the most underrated right back in Europe and it pains me to admit it. Phil Neville is underrated full stop. English fans have just shit on him since Euro 2002. When he replaced Butt in midfield for us, he looked quality. I can't really recall him ever having nightmares for United either.

Community Shield coming up. I don't think it's that important. The most important thing is that Arsenal don't suffer any major injuries. A long-term injury to Senderos, or Henry, would be far worse than a loss in a meaningless game...oh, and the curse that shows that the winner never wins the title!

I seem to remember Deportivo winning the spanish league a few years ago, they've just had a couple of bad seasons or something i think. There team is full of internationals, ours isn't. I agree our defence is shit.( i even joke sometimes that our defence is just the keeper/crossbar&goalposts)I heard were getting Coco who is a left back, and is far better than Elliot. I do fear for this next season if we don't get the striker we need, if we do get a striker to partner Shearer then we have a shot at sixth place, thats where my optimism(sp?) is coming from at the moment.

packt up- I don't think it will be easy though by any means, but were still a bigger club than Middlesborough overall is the main point i was trying to make. If we can make it to 6th place this season that would be way above all my expectations.Our organization is the thing that pisses me off the most to.I do wonder what Souness says to the players on the training ground.

The trophy itsself isn't that important, but the fact that its Arsenal V Chelsea is. So i'll be watching it.

Oh and i agree with Rob about Phil Neville, he will definately improve Everton and it kinda surprisied me that Man Utd sold him.

Real Sociedad came 2nd in the Liga a few years ago, look where they are now. Valencia won it a couple years back, look what's happened to them. Depor winning the league was like Everton finishing 4th, they had a better year than normal and played above themselves - plus they had some different players then. And Newcastle's team is full of internationals :|

Given
Carr
Boumsong
Babayaro
Jenas
Emre
Dyer
Bowyer (long time ago but still)
Parker (ok only the one cap or so but I'd be surprised if he plays regular if he doesn't get into a squad)
Shearer (retired yeah but he could probably still get in in an emergency)

Deportivo had the likes of Naybett, Makaay and Djalminha back then. And Tristan was on top form.

It pains me even more to admit it.

I don't think there is a player who has been as consistent as Gary Neville in the last 10 years or so and Phil Neville is a decent enough player who can play in a variety of positions. He'll be a good signing for Everton....sadly :(

Stubbsy is going to win us the Premiership :cool:

I actually said 'full of' meaning the whole Deportivo team. We only have a few.For example, deportivo subbed there top intenational spanish striker for another international striker.Can't remember who but thats what the commentator said, also the other striekr was an international. Deportivo are a decent team, i always expect them to finish high in the spanish league.

But did you see how Parker looked for the right pass everytime and held up the ball? Unlike the rest of the midfield(besides Emre) who just wack it up the pitch and hope for the best. Emre/Parker will be key for us, i can see them being a good combination in midfield, if we get the striker were after then we can really do some damage.