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G 09-11-2009 07:53 PM

okay i have one

D Mac 09-11-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2715783)
Please.

You would have thrown a bitchfit if Hetfield was rapping like that in GH:M

I wouldn't give a shit because I know it's NOT REAL.

RoXer 09-11-2009 10:41 PM

No one believes you.

D Mac 09-11-2009 10:41 PM

Whatever dude. Arrested Development sucks.

Fignuts 09-11-2009 11:25 PM

I believe him.

D Mac 09-11-2009 11:29 PM

Thanks.

RoXer 09-12-2009 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD
I remember when GH was about rock, now I'm looking at Stevie fucking Wonder.

If only one of his songs was used in the first Guitar Hero...

Funky Fly 09-12-2009 01:05 AM

That was an RHCP cover tho.

Kane Knight 09-12-2009 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2715693)
Like it or not, Cobain was an icon and theres a certain image that should be kept. It's the same reason we don't see any of The Beatles rapping to Flava Flav.

...Did I just compare Cobain with The Beatles? :nono:

Then where's the outcry over Johnny Cash? Certainly, he deserves at least as much respect for his "image." Should he be rapping along to the Beastie Boys while my cartoony guitarist wails away and Lars Umlaut pounds the skins?

Come on, this is a really stupid issue.

Fignuts 09-12-2009 01:39 PM

Yeah was about to bring up cash. How about Hendrix?

Also, Cobain is dead, so he doesn't have to see image misrepresented. Everybody wins!

RoXer 09-12-2009 01:42 PM

Cash, Hendrix, Santana

They can (and should) make the same case, absolutley.

RoXer 09-12-2009 01:48 PM

It's an image issue.

Going back to Kalyx's comparison, Andre The Giant wrestling in an a new match type that wasn't created during the time he was alive is fine. Andre The Giant wearing pink blouses, a rainbow afro, and performing the People's Elbow as his special move while in these matches is not.

Kurt Cobain playing modern hits with other created band members or legends is fine. Kurt Cobain playing right handed and wiggitywiggity rapping is not.

D Mac 09-12-2009 03:25 PM

Simple Solution. Don't make Cobain your singer on those songs! :roll:

Fignuts 09-12-2009 03:58 PM

No one has explained yet, how this tarnishes cobain's image. That is my biggest issue with all this nonsense.

The Mask 09-12-2009 04:05 PM

i dunno, watching cobain sing bon jovi is kind of akin to watching johnny rotten sing yes

The Mask 09-12-2009 04:07 PM

only johnny rotten isn't dead

Fignuts 09-12-2009 04:10 PM

Jesus Christ can have regular apperances on south park and family guy, but a cartoon cobain can't rap.

Unbelievable.

Fignuts 09-12-2009 04:10 PM

I'm not even religious, and that offends me.

Funky Fly 09-12-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2717098)
I'm not even religious, and that offends me.

Lots of bleeding vaginas out there. The smell alone is bound to offend.

Kane Knight 09-12-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2716937)
It's an image issue.

Going back to Kalyx's comparison, Andre The Giant wrestling in an a new match type that wasn't created during the time he was alive is fine. Andre The Giant wearing pink blouses, a rainbow afro, and performing the People's Elbow as his special move while in these matches is not.

Kurt Cobain playing modern hits with other created band members or legends is fine. Kurt Cobain playing right handed and wiggitywiggity rapping is not.

Of course, in a couple of games, you can change his moveset and entrance...Sounds like Kalyx's point may have more depth than you would argue.

I'm confused as to where the line is, honestly. Like, okay, him scratching is bad. What if I have him as the vocalist for some whiny emo son...Bad example. What if I have him as my vocalist when I play "Old Time Rock 'n'Roll?" Can he do the slide? Is it okay if he sings "I'm only happy when it rains?" Scratching is wrong, but mincing and prancing and singing like a girl is okay? Perhaps there are other genres and acts that should be off limits.

Funky Fly 09-12-2009 05:48 PM

I don't know why it's a big deal, as he sucks horribly anyway.

D Mac 09-12-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2717189)
Of course, in a couple of games, you can change his moveset and entrance...Sounds like Kalyx's point may have more depth than you would argue.

I'm confused as to where the line is, honestly. Like, okay, him scratching is bad. What if I have him as the vocalist for some whiny emo son...Bad example. What if I have him as my vocalist when I play "Old Time Rock 'n'Roll?" Can he do the slide? Is it okay if he sings "I'm only happy when it rains?" Scratching is wrong, but mincing and prancing and singing like a girl is okay? Perhaps there are other genres and acts that should be off limits.

They don't slide in on Old Time Rock N Roll on GH 5. Only on World Tour.

RoXer 09-12-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2717189)
Of course, in a couple of games, you can change his moveset and entrance...Sounds like Kalyx's point may have more depth than you would argue.

I'm confused as to where the line is, honestly. Like, okay, him scratching is bad. What if I have him as the vocalist for some whiny emo son...Bad example. What if I have him as my vocalist when I play "Old Time Rock 'n'Roll?" Can he do the slide? Is it okay if he sings "I'm only happy when it rains?" Scratching is wrong, but mincing and prancing and singing like a girl is okay? Perhaps there are other genres and acts that should be off limits.

Yeah, that's another situation to get into. "Why is scratching comsidered bad? Is rap not music? etc."

And yeah, "re-locking" so he doesn't prance like a girl does make sense. Again, it falls on the developers to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen. If they made it so that each legend performs their signature style during each song then I don't think we'd have this problem.

Also, I think everyone is complaining about Cobain because it hits closer to home for them. Mostly 20somethings and younger are playing this game and were probably affected by grunge movement. Hence all the backlash.

Doesn't mean Cash and Santana should be overlooked though.

Who else is unlockable? I know the Garbage/Terminator chick is.

D Mac 09-12-2009 08:50 PM

And the guy from Muse.

Funky Fly 09-12-2009 09:19 PM

It's not like they're reanimating his corpse. People need to settle down.

RoXer 09-12-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer
everyone is complaining about Cobain because

Also, the suicide aspect. Didn't mean to overlook thatm

Juan 09-12-2009 09:26 PM

I'm a huge Cobain/Nirvana fan and I couldn't care less, tbh.

D Mac 09-12-2009 10:17 PM

Yeah like I said, just don't use him for that shit.

Tornado 09-13-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 2717343)
And the guy from Muse.


Im a HUGE Muse fan, and I don't give a rats ass if Matt Bellamy is singing Elton John songs in a FUCKING VIDEO GAME.

RoXer 09-13-2009 09:56 AM

Well yeah because The Guy From Muse is hardly an icon.

Fignuts 09-13-2009 11:48 AM

Actually, to Tornado, Bellamy is bigger than cobain.

RoXer 09-13-2009 11:56 AM

http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Tornado 09-13-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2717888)
Actually, to Tornado, Bellamy is bigger than cobain.


To me, he's bigger than Jesus.

G 09-13-2009 12:10 PM

At least Bellamy is real.









OH SHIT RELIGIOUS DEBATE 500 POST TOPIC!!!11one

Kalyx triaD 09-13-2009 01:40 PM

I'm gonna unlock Kurt and have him sing everything but his music.

Fignuts 09-13-2009 06:36 PM

Seriously. All this nonsense makes me want to do it.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-13-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2717085)
No one has explained yet, how this tarnishes cobain's image. That is my biggest issue with all this nonsense.

The issue seems to be being made because Kurt Cobain always had issues with the shallow state of the music business. Essentially, a lot of his fans are pissed because they feel this would be something Kurt Cobain would have hated, and would have been 100% against. They see this as totally against his ideals, and essentially as a slap in his face.

I'm not saying I agree, but I understand.

Kalyx triaD 09-14-2009 04:47 PM

Then he off'd himself.

Fignuts 09-14-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2718479)
The issue seems to be being made because Kurt Cobain always had issues with the shallow state of the music business. Essentially, a lot of his fans are pissed because they feel this would be something Kurt Cobain would have hated, and would have been 100% against. They see this as totally against his ideals, and essentially as a slap in his face.

I'm not saying I agree, but I understand.

Oh no, I get that much. I think you'd have to be daft not to at least understand why some people are upset, even if you don't agree. But it doesn't really tarnish his image at all, imo. It's not like he ok'd all this and sold out. He's dead. He had no say in the matter. Ya know?

D Mac 09-14-2009 05:46 PM

Fuck that Scatterbrain song. :mad:

Fignuts 09-14-2009 06:36 PM

I dunno, being that the crazy parts are all slider notes, I was able to survive ok.

Kalyx triaD 09-16-2009 05:47 AM

I know I said I wasn't gonna do covers but sue. Doing an updated cover of "The Game", this time with a more 'GH-like' note structure (basically little mix ups in the riffs to stave boredom). Also adding a solo after the song loops (after the 'Spit Water-ah!' bridge). Listening to Motorhead stuff to get an idea of how they would solo the song. Also adding licks that's in the actual song that goes unnoticed. Give me a while with this one.

D Mac 09-16-2009 07:34 AM

The Game by Disturbed?

Kalyx triaD 09-16-2009 07:43 AM

The Game as in HHH's theme.

Kalyx triaD 09-16-2009 07:44 AM

Note the mentioning of Motorhead in the post.

G 09-17-2009 09:18 AM

Detailed comparison of the two guitars.

http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/2009/...hero-5-guitar/

Kane Knight 09-17-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2718479)
The issue seems to be being made because Kurt Cobain always had issues with the shallow state of the music business. Essentially, a lot of his fans are pissed because they feel this would be something Kurt Cobain would have hated, and would have been 100% against. They see this as totally against his ideals, and essentially as a slap in his face.

I'm not saying I agree, but I understand.


It's like, I get the idea, but the rest seems silly. Like, first off, we're talking about a game where his music was already licensed. Seems pretty hypocritical right there, especially since the main draw of having his music in the game is because we're talking top forty hits. People are arguing what they claim Kurt would have wanted mostly because they put him on a pedestal mostly in a way contrary to their belief of his ideals.

Personally, I think he was a corporate shill marketing counter-culture, so I don't give a shit. Offing himself ensured he was an icon, more or less permanently, so it seems really dumb to argue his ideals when his final act was basically to become the sort of shallow media icon his beliefs opposed.

Of course, maybe they're all retards and believe the Cuntney love theory, and therefore can justify it, but it's still stupid.

Zen v.W.o. 09-18-2009 06:52 PM

haha, I dont think killing himself was so that he could become some permanent rock god/martyr...the man was fucked up and depressed, nothing more or less.

As for Courtney, come on. She's the same woman who sold the rights to publish Kurt's memoirs and journals. She pretends to act all offended but fuck it if she isn't still using Kurt to line her pockets. Lord knows her claim to fame has always been through him.

Zen v.W.o. 09-18-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2717085)
No one has explained yet, how this tarnishes cobain's image. That is my biggest issue with all this nonsense.

It really doesn't. It's a computer animated image, not the man himself. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but I dont even think Kurt himself would seriously give a fuck. He'd probably find it somewhat amusing.

Fignuts 09-18-2009 11:41 PM

Just obliterated kalyx's score on 2 minutes to midnite.

Just puttin that out there.

Kalyx triaD 09-19-2009 12:21 AM

LOL

Let's see how long that lasts.

Kane Knight 09-19-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2726937)
haha, I dont think killing himself was so that he could become some permanent rock god/martyr...the man was fucked up and depressed, nothing more or less.

From the guy who has Nirvana's collective dicks so far down his throat he argued numbers then threw them out when an actual verifiable source demonstrated them to be false.

If Cobain's suicide note had said "I'm a big faggot and an even bigger hypocrite," You'd run out and defend homosexuality and hypocrisy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2726938)
It really doesn't. It's a computer animated image, not the man himself. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but I dont even think Kurt himself would seriously give a fuck. He'd probably find it somewhat amusing.

Didn't you just undercut the whole argument that the other Kurtards are making?

Kane Knight 09-19-2009 04:02 PM

I haven't touched this game in over a week. Too much Beatlemania runnin' wild.

Zen v.W.o. 09-19-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2728037)
From the guy who has Nirvana's collective dicks so far down his throat he argued numbers then threw them out when an actual verifiable source demonstrated them to be false.

If Cobain's suicide note had said "I'm a big faggot and an even bigger hypocrite," You'd run out and defend homosexuality and hypocrisy.



Didn't you just undercut the whole argument that the other Kurtards are making?

I'm trying to flatly state how little this truly means. I was never a Nirvana fan or a Kurt fan for his image and his reputation, but for the music he and they put out.

G 09-23-2009 10:20 PM

September 10, 2009 - Mail-in verification received and verified as valid. Your game will arrive within 4-6 weeks.


:D

D Mac 09-29-2009 03:45 AM

Queens Of The Stone Age Track Pack - Avialable October 1st, 2009
1.)Mexicola
2.)Avon
3.)How To Handle A Rope

Billy Squier Track Pack - Available October 8th, 2009
1.)The Stroke
2.)Everybody Wants You
3.)When She Comes To Me

Wolfmother Track Pack - Available October 15th, 2009
1.)Pilgrim
2.)California Queen
3.)Cosmic Egg

Classic Rock 2 Track Pack - Available October 22, 2009
1.)Freeze Frame by The J. Geils Band
2.)Show Me The Way (Live) by Peter Frampton
3.)Lay It On The Line by Triumph

All Hallows' Eve Track Pack - Available October 29, 2009
1.)Gor Gor by GWAR
2.)Beautiful People by Marilyn Manson
3.)Astro Zombies by The Misfits

Kinda MEH except for Billy Squire. :(

RoXer 09-29-2009 09:49 AM

Of all the QOTSA songs to pick...

:nono:

Fignuts 09-29-2009 11:28 AM

Should just get the full songs for the deaf album, tbh.

RoXer 09-29-2009 01:14 PM

Exactly

DaveWadding 09-29-2009 02:26 PM

another song from Frampton Comes Alive! :y:

Too bad this game sucks

D Mac 09-29-2009 03:18 PM

Thank you for purchasing Guitar Hero® 5 and for deciding to take advantage of the Guitar Hero® Van Halen® offer.

We have received your redemption materials so we know you're ready to rock! Your game will be packed and shipped to you soon.

We hope you're as excited to play Guitar Hero Van Halen as we are!

:cool:

G 09-29-2009 04:10 PM

Yeah, got the email too.

D Mac 09-29-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 2744543)

Too bad this game sucks


I disagree!

G 09-29-2009 05:39 PM

Yeah, seriously. This is light years ahead of all the previous GH's, minus the set list.

D Mac 09-29-2009 06:25 PM

Wish they'd hurry the fuck up and get the rest of World Tour and Smash Hits on here.

They've had plenty of time to get the re license. This is fail.

G 09-29-2009 06:36 PM

It's not going to happen, probably. That's what I'd put my money on.

D Mac 09-29-2009 07:50 PM

Wouldn't it be false advertising? They promised to get the whole shit on here.

DaveWadding 09-29-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2744842)
Yeah, seriously. This is light years ahead of all the previous GH's, minus the set list.

And it's still miles behind Rock Band. Sayin.

D Mac 09-29-2009 08:06 PM

True, but it doesn't mean it "sucks" :p

METALLICA > IRON MAIDEN

DaveWadding 09-29-2009 08:10 PM

no. It sucks. Almost as bad as your taste in everything.

D Mac 09-29-2009 08:30 PM

2 weeks away from Creed!

D Mac 09-29-2009 10:36 PM

For the record, my taste in everything rules. Fuck you Dave. :foc:

Fignuts 09-29-2009 11:04 PM

Dave Wadding is wrong.

Kane Knight 10-01-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2744842)
Yeah, seriously. This is light years ahead of all the previous GH's, minus the set list.

What G said.

G 10-04-2009 09:56 AM

$29.97 shipped today on Amazon. Great price to pick it up if you've been thinking about it.

Dorkchop 10-04-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 2744229)
Of all the QOTSA songs to pick...

:nono:

Avon is an awesome song. I only really like their first album though. Second one is kind of good. That's all I really have to contribute to this thread.

G 10-05-2009 08:04 AM

People are starting to get their games, so keep a lookout.


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/478/ghvh.jpg

G 10-05-2009 09:58 PM

:love:


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D Mac 10-06-2009 04:50 PM

Just got it in the mail today! WOOOOOOOO

G 10-06-2009 05:55 PM

faggot

D Mac 10-06-2009 06:22 PM

Pretty good. It's basically a GH Metallica clone with Halen. The "new look" Halen guys look wierd. There's probably a code to unlock classic look Halen.

G 10-06-2009 06:53 PM

I'm angry mine hasn't come, but people twice as far from the distribution centers are getting their copies.


hold me :(

D Mac 10-06-2009 07:02 PM

You should get it before the end of the week. Maybe.

G 10-06-2009 07:05 PM

DON'T SAY MAYBE. STOP FUCKING WITH MY EMOTIONS :foc::foc::foc:

Kalyx triaD 10-06-2009 07:18 PM

Funny how bonus bands were a bother with past exclusive games but this game has a decent bonus set list.

Maybe better than the marquee list.

D Mac 10-06-2009 07:52 PM

Well it's free, so it's great for me. :D

D Mac 10-06-2009 07:52 PM

RUNNIN WITH THE DEVIL!

G 10-07-2009 04:05 PM

Fucking aggravating as hell. Website says it's been shipped but it hasn't fucking got here. :mad:

G 10-10-2009 03:04 PM

Finally came today. :mad:

G 10-10-2009 08:57 PM

Even though one of my favorite songs in the whole wide world is on it, and that there is 2% chance of the song coming as DLC to anything, come release day I am putting it for trade on Goozex. It's fun the first run through, but I see no replay in VH. I'm not familiar with 98% of their songs and I don't see myself putting in the game just to play that one song.

RoXer 10-10-2009 09:33 PM

But send it to me first and I'll Goozex it under your name.

G 10-10-2009 09:37 PM

Send me 007 in exchange

RoXer 10-11-2009 06:34 AM

OK

D Mac 10-12-2009 05:19 PM

Luckily I know most of their songs so I will be keeping.

D Mac 10-20-2009 05:52 AM

61 songs from the Band Hero setlist will import to GH5 on release. it would appear to be a official press release.


It looks like the 4 songs that won't import into GH5 are the 3 Taylor Swift songs and the 1 Maroon 5 song. Not a huge loss IMO.

Kalyx triaD 10-20-2009 05:53 AM

That's a good deal.

D Mac 10-20-2009 05:56 AM

The GH forums said it will cost about 420 MS points. Will probably have to have the game manual like the other GH games for the unique code.

Gonna try to rent Band Hero before anybody else and use the manual code.

Kane Knight 10-20-2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 2780427)
61 songs from the Band Hero setlist will import to GH5 on release. it would appear to be a official press release.


It looks like the 4 songs that won't import into GH5 are the 3 Taylor Swift songs and the 1 Maroon 5 song. Not a huge loss IMO.

There are three Taylor Swift songs? WHY?

Kalyx triaD 10-20-2009 10:25 AM

My guess is they had a DLC pack deal and said, "Fuck it, put it in the game we're making because we copyrighted a name preemptively."

G 10-24-2009 11:37 AM

So I had to exchange my guitar bundle at TRU for a new one because the guitar didn't work correctly. I mailed in the new receipt with the new sticker on the box, seeing if it'll work, and the GHVH website says it's valid and I'll get another copy in 4-6 weeks. :cool:

Just thought I'd share.


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