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Supreme Olajuwon 04-15-2020 09:58 PM

So far the only ones I want to see in AEW are Rusev and maybe Drake because he’s so adorable. And I guess Chioda if he still wants to work.

Lot of fat trimming it looks like

Emperor Smeat 04-15-2020 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5337550)
So far the only ones I want to see in AEW are Rusev and maybe Drake because he’s so adorable. And I guess Chioda if he still wants to work.

Lot of fat trimming it looks like

Purrazzo would be a huge gain for their women's division.

Maybe Rush as well to boost their mid-card considering how athletic he is in the ring and would fit great with their style of action. Only real downside is the negative baggage attached to him.

Bad News Gertner 04-15-2020 10:34 PM

They basically made up for their lack of spring cleaning over the past couple of years.

Just a bunch of guys clogging up the roster.

Emperor Smeat 04-15-2020 10:35 PM

WrestelVotes, who has been a pretty reliable source for wrestling news, is claiming the overall cuts are going to be in the hundreds range once everything settles.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All I can say is wow at this point. The number of people, staff + talent, let go will be in the hundreds when it’s all set and done. Well into the hundreds. A dark day in WWE history.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1250507915867414529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 04-15-2020 10:44 PM

Said it earlier but I really wouldn't be shocked if NXT UK was just shut down completely. Just about everyone would be let go except for the handful that they offer a chance to move to the US - Tyler Bate, Toni Storm, etc. Probably WALTER too though he's repeatedly said he has no interest in moving to the US which is why he turned down WWE several times until NXT UK became a thing.

xrodmuc316 04-15-2020 10:48 PM

I'm thinking tomorrow will see more NXT cuts. Especially the ones that have been there forever, if not now then when.

Aliyah
Vanessa Borne
Tino Sabbatelli
Arturo Ruas
Cezar Bononi

4-5 years in developmental is enough

Bad News Gertner 04-15-2020 10:48 PM

They are probably paying those guys peanuts

Mr. JL 04-15-2020 10:52 PM

Pretty low of the WWE to release a mother on maternity leave, as well as her husband.

Evil Vito 04-15-2020 10:52 PM

My company did a round of layoffs last week and laid off one bigwig with the rest being people in lower level roles at a far lower salary level. It happens, unfortunately.

Emperor Smeat 04-15-2020 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5337573)
Said it earlier but I really wouldn't be shocked if NXT UK was just shut down completely. Just about everyone would be let go except for the handful that they offer a chance to move to the US - Tyler Bate, Toni Storm, etc. Probably WALTER too though he's repeatedly said he has no interest in moving to the US which is why he turned down WWE several times until NXT UK became a thing.

If NXT UK shuts down, wouldn't be surprised if NXT Japan plans get axed as well.

NXT UK did a ton of damage to the view people had of Triple H being the future savoir of WWE and him not being just as destructive and petty towards the indies like Vince.

slik 04-15-2020 11:13 PM

Didn't NXT UK put a lot of British Indies outta business? I know for a while the UK was having an indy wrestling boom with sold out shows at venues all over the place for multiple companies.

xrodmuc316 04-15-2020 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5337550)
So far the only ones I want to see in AEW are Rusev and maybe Drake because he’s so adorable. And I guess Chioda if he still wants to work.

Lot of fat trimming it looks like

Rusev for sure would be the priority signing for AEW.

I am still quite surprised Gallows and Anderson are gone. Seems odd that when AJ comes back on tv it will be like The OC never existed.

They would be a better tag team get for AEW than the Revival I think. They might decide to go back to Japan though.

Depending on how AEW wants to play it, I could see them bringing in Rowan with the Dark Order to build on the obvious connection.

EC3 gotta be heading back to Impact. Likely Eric Young as well. I also think Drake would be more likely to end up back in Impact as well.

I think there are also clear WWE guys that will likely get resigned down the road like Zack Ryder and Heath Slater. I'd probably throw Hawkins in there as well. Sarah Logan also considering her Viking Husband is still employed.

The Colons already basically worked full time in Puerto Rico, so that's where they are heading.

Wildcard in it all would be Lio Rush, he is so good he could probably pick his spot.

Mike and Maria could go AEW/Impact/ROH. Same with Deonna Purrazzo Not really sure on them.

Volare 04-15-2020 11:17 PM

Ryder's Twitter Handle...

Matt Cardona
@ZackRyder

new?

Evil Vito 04-15-2020 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5337582)
Didn't NXT UK put a lot of British Indies outta business? I know for a while the UK was having an indy wrestling boom with sold out shows at venues all over the place for multiple companies.

Not necessarily put companies out of business, but coming to agreements with a lot of the companies and pretty much fucking them over by pulling talent off of the shows they were booked for constantly.

Evil Vito 04-15-2020 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 5337584)
Ryder's Twitter Handle...

Matt Cardona
@ZackRyder

new?

Matt Cardona is his real name. He and Hawkins (!Brian Myers) have used their real names on social media for a while due to their action figure podcast and YouTube show.

Emperor Smeat 04-15-2020 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5337582)
Didn't NXT UK put a lot of British Indies outta business? I know for a while the UK was having an indy wrestling boom with sold out shows at venues all over the place for multiple companies.

No but they played a major role in the wrestling renaissance there being quickly extinguished. Combo of WWE desperately wanting to get their grubby hands all over it and UK companies being too naive on Triple H's motives for the region and NXT UK.

ITV also helped damage it but to a much lesser degree than WWE with how badly they botched World of Sport's revival.

A few UK companies were on shaky legs even during the wrestling renaissance so they likely weren't going to last anyways. The whole scene suffering almost all at once can be directly traced back to WWE trying to hog as much of the pie as possible even if it meant screwing over their affiliates.

Damian Rey 2.0 04-15-2020 11:38 PM

Rusev and The Revival seem like the priority signings.

Anderson and Gallows were pretty dull to me. I can see them heading back to Japan.

EC3 could go to Impact or AEW.

Feel terrible for a lot of those guys. The worst fucking time to get dumped.

xrodmuc316 04-15-2020 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5337591)
Rusev and The Revival seem like the priority signings.

Anderson and Gallows were pretty dull to me. I can see them heading back to Japan.

EC3 could go to Impact or AEW.

Feel terrible for a lot of those guys. The worst fucking time to get dumped.

The Revival should have signed those $750k contracts then got the buyout lol.

I wasn't counting Revival in this though because they got out beforehand.

Damian Rey 2.0 04-15-2020 11:43 PM

I doubt they get released if they had resigned

Vastardikai 04-15-2020 11:47 PM

I can actually see Bennett, EC3, and maybe Ryder going to NWA.

EC3 and Bennett would certainly be National Champion material right out the gate with Carter being built up more easily to Sweet Charlotte.

Maluco 04-16-2020 01:06 AM

Ryder will go to AEW, no question. He is popular with the boys, has proven he can get over and is still really young for a wrestler. He has an online presence too. He will be in AEW as fast as the current situation allows him.

Outsider 04-16-2020 03:37 AM

Apparently Kassius Ohno’s profile has been moved to the ‘alumni’ section on the WWE website.

XL 04-16-2020 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5337447)
I liked his video-game inspired music and tron, could have done without the dabbing

Not sure if you’re joking with this :lol:

Droford 04-16-2020 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider (Post 5337613)
Apparently Kassius Ohno’s profile has been moved to the ‘alumni’ section on the WWE website.

Oh...no

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-16-2020 07:42 AM

Many of these people shouldn't have been hired or kept on board in the first place. And much like WWE would, they've let them go at the worst possible time.

Evil Vito 04-16-2020 07:49 AM

Apparently they're done with main roster cuts. Lio Rush, Mike Kanellis, Drake Maverick were in the first wave because anyone in 205 Live is deemed main roster and that's why they were announced.

But more NXT cuts and cuts to other onscreen talent have happened, but they're not going public with it and it's up to the talents to break the news themselves if they wanted to.

Also means that even though NXT keeps getting spun as being "main roster" since they're on TV, they're not.

Droford 04-16-2020 08:14 AM

Drake was in the nxt cruiserweight interim championship group thing too lol

Wonder who replaces him

GD 04-16-2020 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5337651)
Drake was in the nxt cruiserweight interim championship group thing too lol

Wonder who replaces him

He's going to compete in the tournament. If only you'd watched his video.

XL 04-16-2020 08:45 AM

I thought to myself “the crowd are gonna be so behind him in these matches” and then realised. Still, a strange situation to have him still do the matches; although I guess it’s at his request. Finally got to go in the ring and show what he can do, and released before he got the chance. :(

Jordan 04-16-2020 08:51 AM

Why would you hire EC3 when you have MJF?

EC3 should return to Impact or he could take MJF's spot on the Dynasty stable.

I'd like to see Heath Slater get a rejuvenating ROH contract before he returns to WWE and becomes world's champion as the 3MB Monkeys Paw theory dictates.

I hope The Good Brothers return to NJPW. They could rejuvenate The Bullet Club in a big way. Big Battle.

I feel like AEW has got to sign Rusev, Miro. Could be a big star if they bring him in with a great story. I also think they should hire Rowan to work with or against Brodie Lee. Rowan is a giant and he had been improving a lot recently. I would give him a contract.

I don't care for Ryder much anymore however he was awesome in the past and Cody did tribute him on IG. I could see him going there.

Drake Maverick is so good I'm sure it won't be long before he gets work with Impact again or possibly AEW, ROH or MLW.

Chris Hero likely to do whatever the fuck he wants now.

erickman 04-16-2020 09:01 AM

yeah ec3 and mjf might be to much who would be the better cocky heel? slater has 2 former tag partners that he had belts with ryno and his 1st nxt partner in roh.

Evil Vito 04-16-2020 10:06 AM

Lance Storm had one of the most acclaimed wrestling schools in the world and he closed it up and sold most of its assets to take his producer job that lasted 4 months.

Droford 04-16-2020 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5337655)
He's going to compete in the tournament. If only you'd watched his video.

It's not like hes going to win then

Not that he had any chance prior, but still

Emperor Smeat 04-16-2020 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5337646)
Apparently they're done with main roster cuts. Lio Rush, Mike Kanellis, Drake Maverick were in the first wave because anyone in 205 Live is deemed main roster and that's why they were announced.

But more NXT cuts and cuts to other onscreen talent have happened, but they're not going public with it and it's up to the talents to break the news themselves if they wanted to.

Also means that even though NXT keeps getting spun as being "main roster" since they're on TV, they're not.

Seems the bulk of the unannounced cuts were not releases and instead just talent furloughed for the time being. Knowing WWE, those contracts likely got froze so any time missed is just getting added back at the end like with injury time.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There have been a lot more on camera talent furloughed that will come out if they so choose</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1250630851869716480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Money-wise, the amount being saved monthly from these talent cuts is tiny compared to other expenses they had going on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The talent cuts will save them about $703,000 per month, $4 million includes all expenses cut including expenses of moving into a new office. <a href="https://t.co/5AD9Eie1mc">https://t.co/5AD9Eie1mc</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1250660077704368128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Also both the Wrestling Observer and Post Wrestling speculating something really did go down recently with FOX and USA regarding WWE's tv deals that sent Vince into this panic mode. Meltzer mentioned on Twitter that its been something gaining traction from sources close to the situation.

Bad News Gertner 04-16-2020 10:59 AM

I remember thinking Dan Matha was going to be a sure fire Vince guy and that he'd be a heavily pushed Main roster guy

GD 04-16-2020 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5337683)
It's not like hes going to win then

Not that he had any chance prior, but still

What’s your point, Droford?

Lock Jaw 04-16-2020 11:15 AM

Done with main roster cuts? Pfffft what fun is that?

xrodmuc316 04-16-2020 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5337684)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The talent cuts will save them about $703,000 per month, $4 million includes all expenses cut including expenses of moving into a new office. <a href="https://t.co/5AD9Eie1mc">https://t.co/5AD9Eie1mc</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1250660077704368128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Also both the Wrestling Observer and Post Wrestling speculating something really did go down recently with FOX and USA regarding WWE's tv deals that sent Vince into this panic mode. Meltzer mentioned on Twitter that its been something gaining traction from sources close to the situation.

How could Dave Meltzer POSSIBLY know the exact dollar amount that will be saved with the releases??? He is such trash.

Vastardikai 04-16-2020 11:52 AM

It's kind of weird that Mike Rotunda was released Yesterday, after all, he WAS IRS.

Sepholio 04-16-2020 11:57 AM

lol I see what you did there


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