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Gonzo 05-29-2012 09:59 AM

Did you play Diablo 1 and 2?

Sepholio 05-29-2012 11:07 AM

D1 and D2 had definitive end games. While it may have been repetitive, it was fun. The end game in D3 is still repetitive but no longer fun due to class imbalance and extreme difficulty. Blizzard keeps saying you need to farm the items to progress, but there is a problem; the items melee classes need to progress past act 1 inferno do not drop until act 3 and 4 inferno. It makes you use the AH; big surprise there, considering they take 15% profits.

I feel like this game would have gotten the polish and balance it deserved if not for the AH and people constantly harassing about the release date. As it is, I kinda feel like we all paid for a decent beta build. We're just getting used as millions of test dummies so they can fix everything later with the obvious expansions they have lined up. Welcome to World of Diablo.

All things considered, the progress of levelling from 1-60 through hell mode is still fun. Just the inferno end game blows it.

Sepholio 05-29-2012 11:13 AM

Here is wonderful example of how to play D3 on inferno.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PEyk63UaBI4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Boomer 05-29-2012 11:48 AM

What is everyone's problem? Blizzard constantly patches their games to achieve balance, and it's no different this time. God forbid they make the endgame hard as fuck and then work towards making it more obtainable. I would agree that D3 is easier overall than D1 or D2 up until Inferno, but it's the best flowing game of the series without question.

Sepholio 05-29-2012 01:52 PM

Best flowing? In what sense do you mean?

Gonzo 05-29-2012 02:00 PM

My brother said he is farming the Skeleton King on Inferno solo as a Barb. He told me he is making enough money on the yellow drops he gets (~100-200K per) that he can either buy what he needs or use what he finds. It's a bit of a process but that's exactly what Diablo 2 was like.

Boomer 05-29-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 3872892)
Best flowing? In what sense do you mean?

They keep the action going. Combat flows well, and the story progresses without large amounts of searching on the map for what you are looking for. I didn't mind it in some parts of D2 (the Arcane Sanctuary), but the Jungle in Act 3 was always super confusing and just a lot of running around trying to find the next waypoint. D3 does it well by telling you the general direction to go in if you want to hit the main quest line, but otherwise lets you roam around all you want.

Sepholio 05-29-2012 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 3872906)
My brother said he is farming the Skeleton King on Inferno solo as a Barb. He told me he is making enough money on the yellow drops he gets (~100-200K per) that he can either buy what he needs or use what he finds. It's a bit of a process but that's exactly what Diablo 2 was like.

Tell him to go to act 2. People who can solo the butcher on inferno get killed 1 or 2 hits by the first random monkey in act 2.

In diablo 2 you could find the gear you need to progress yourself. You didn't need to go buy stuff on an AH that blizzard will take 15% of the money from.

Sepholio 05-29-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3872915)
They keep the action going. Combat flows well, and the story progresses without large amounts of searching on the map for what you are looking for. I didn't mind it in some parts of D2 (the Arcane Sanctuary), but the Jungle in Act 3 was always super confusing and just a lot of running around trying to find the next waypoint. D3 does it well by telling you the general direction to go in if you want to hit the main quest line, but otherwise lets you roam around all you want.

So they hold your hand and tell you where to go? Definitely better flow there.

Inferno makes your point about combat flowing well moot. Everything becomes about kiting enemies into a corner, dying, and then never going back to that corner again.

Boomer 05-29-2012 03:06 PM

Yes, they hold your hand. So what? It makes for a better game, in my opinion.

And I already made my argument that Blizzard fixes things as they go. Inferno will not stay this way forever. Servers were down today because they were applying a patch to the game. Blizzard having post-release support...surprise surprise.

Kapoutman 05-31-2012 02:46 PM

DAMMIT. That's exactly why I didn't want to buy the game in the first place. I have very few times where I can play Diablo because I work a lot. Last time I wanted to play was at the start of the week, and I couldn't because servers were down for maintenance.

Right now, I have an hour or two free where I can play. What's happening? SERVERS DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE.

I only want to play single players. Wish I could play this offline.

I'm an idiot. I bought this when I knew this would be happening.

Emperor Smeat 06-01-2012 05:50 PM

Real-money auction house will be made available on June 12th with server instability the official reason to why it was delayed and only the in-game trading auction house was available at launch.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/real...elease-june-12

Sepholio 06-02-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3877269)
Real-money auction house will be made available on June 12th with server instability the official reason to why it was delayed and only the in-game trading auction house was available at launch.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/real...elease-june-12

Not true at all.

The same thing was said about the RMAH going live on May 29th. May 29th came, and the date got changed to June 12th. There has been nothing official from Blizzard guaranteeing that as the definitive launch.

And it also has less to do with server stability and more to do with the fact that the gold auction house is buggy as shit. Peoples items and gold disappear for days and days on end with no explanation other than database errors.

If they have just a small percentage of the problems they have with the gold auction house occur with the RMAH then they will open themselves up for lawsuits.

Not to mention the numerous accounts being hacked with and without authenticators, and Blizzards blanket denials of it being from exploits to their servers. Forbes has even run articles on this at this point in time. What happens when you have your card linked to the RMAH and your account gets taken due to one of these exploits and someone else runs your credit into the ground?

In short, Blizzard can not afford to open the RMAH at any point before they fix the nagging problems with the game stability, the gold auction house, and the security of their systems.

Pintint 06-02-2012 09:41 PM

I think the most shocking event in Diablo III so far

SPOILER: show

Tyrael is black? Damn. Always saw him as some sort of blonde blue eyed long haired white guy.

Emperor Smeat 06-28-2012 05:34 PM

Blizzard removes the 72 hour restriction on digital copies which was meant to combat gold farmers but ended up causing a lot of issues with the low level cap.

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/blizza...rictions/4245/

Kapoutman 06-29-2012 12:57 PM

I completely stopped playing this and I'm still at level 12. Just clicking on stuff was addictive at first but quickly lost its appeal. I bet I'll go back to it in a few months though when I have more free time.

Sepholio 06-29-2012 01:30 PM

It's getting better with the last couple patches now and the increased drop rates in Inferno. Balance is coming along somewhat, but still isn't quite tuned right for a couple classes.

Now if they would just get rid of that fucking single player lag....oh wait.

Kapoutman 06-29-2012 01:45 PM

That would help my desire to play tremendously.

Heisenberg 07-05-2012 02:24 AM

I started playing Hardcore mode with a monk so every upgrade item i get seems more important and so far I havent hopped back on my Demon Hunter to farm act 1 inferno which seems to be all I can do without using the Gold and RMAH.

Emperor Smeat 07-05-2012 04:50 PM

Blizzard is banning Linux users from the game claiming they are either trying to get around the security in place of the game or are cheating. Linux users affected are saying all they are running is a Wine program (lets them use Windows to play the game).

Not all Linux users are getting banned though and anyone who has been affected was also tested for false positives as part of their appeal process.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...of-Unfair-Bans

Emperor Smeat 08-20-2012 05:29 PM

Upcoming patch will be raising the level cap by about an extra 100 levels while those who already reached the current cap will be now using a new progression leveling system called the "Paragon System."

Quote:

Through the Paragon System, players will be able to gain 100 extra levels, each awarding base stats such as Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Vitality. To curb gear swapping mid battle, each Paragon Level will also add 3% Magic Find and 3% Gold Find.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/diab...-player-levels

road doggy dogg 08-20-2012 07:48 PM

Diablo III got kinda boring really fast. I'm hoping the 1.04 Witch Doctor changes make it fun for a few more weeks.
crossrine

Gonzo 08-21-2012 02:08 PM

Agreed. WD was my first character and I found it difficult to make a feasible end game build that worked.

Heisenberg 08-21-2012 10:58 PM

I did a Butcher run tonight and saw nothing but improvements to a lot of things. The Paragon system is quite interesting as well. Going to start back where I left off at in Act 3 inferno soon.


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