Awesome

Could be another link to the whole 'list' thing, but probably has much much more significance. Its obvious 'a war is coming' and Jack, along with Hurley, Kate etc are picked for one side, maybe.

It was also good to see Sayid still alive, although I do still think he will be one of the ones to be killed off. His story seems more or less complete imo.

He's in the trailer, and it looks like some Eastern guy is about to burn his gunshot wound shut.

Yep

Cannot. Wait.

Sadly, I live in the UK and will have to wait til tomorrow (My net connection better not fuck up!)

On the plus side, gives me enough time to re-watch episodes 11-17 of Season 5.

Did I mention that I can't wait?

Great stuff. This last season better have a ton of Jack/ John scenes or i will be pissed. All there scenes thru out the series have been amazing.

First episode was pretty uneventful but they needed a good setup. Second episode was fucking awesome.

Why was Desmond on the plane? God dammit I hate this show so much.

This show makes less and less sense.

I was pretty happy with this, overall. I'm really interested to see where this Locke as the Man in Black thing goes and what the deal with Sayid is.

Also, for those who havent seen this:

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Sure it's in Spanish, but fuck.

At first I thought the plane sequence was a dream. Now I am thinking it is an alternate reality that was created when the bomb went off. Perhaps the ultimate goal of this season is to get to the alternate reality.

The only think I can make of the Alternate Reality is....

Better question. Where the fuck did Desmond go????? ( Time traveling maybe??? )

I thought it was tremendous. More puzzle peices obviously, but very satisfying.

I don't think there's any doubt that it's an alternate reality. I don't know where that alternate reality will go, but it's clear that some forces are at work that are causing the characters to intertwine regardless of being off the island. Fate.
Interested to see how the differences occured (like Hurley having good luck and Shannon not being on the plane).

They had stated this summer that there would be a whole new format in the style of the flashbacks, flashforwards, and time travel in the previous seasons. Looks like it's going to be the alternate reality.
They also said that this would go on for only half the season, and it would all come together eventually, causing the entire show to become linear for the first time leading into the finale.

The hidden society of the temple blew my mind. So glad this show continues to refrain from taking the easy way out and introduce great new twists.
Looks like we're getting really close to some explanation on Richard. The Man in Black mentioned him being free from his chains, so I think I may have been onto something with my theory that he came to the Island on the Black Rock.

One thing I'm a bit confused about, but I'm sure will get cleared up:
The Man in Black (clone Locke) is now revealed to also be The Smokemonster, in addition to being able to imitate dead people.
Well, in the Temple City they're afraid of him and are trying to keep him out.
This is curious because we saw The Monster entering and exiting the temple. One time it was killing the French team. Rosseau called it a security system for said temple.

So, presumably, he was either part of that community, or under their control. What happened there? How did he go from protecting the place to being a threat?

I know they don't have a crazy budget to spend on special effects, but that was some truly awful CGI tonight.

Oh well. Fun stuff. Alternate realities and Egyptian lore and whatnot.

How are they being shown this though? It's not like the versions of them who land safely in the alternate reality have the same consciousness as the versions of them who have experienced everything on the island in the original reality.
Unless deja vu and funny feelings turn into something more, there is no shared consciousness. That's the whole deal with it being an alternate reality. There's no connection there yet, so it's not like Jack's going to say "this suck I wish we still crashed."

I dunno. Hurley's life seems to be better. And Boone's obviously better off not being on the island since, you know, he's not dead.

I wonder what Jacob's incarnation was all about. Cause we know the Monster can imitate the dead and we know Hurley sees dead people.

That too

Great interview with Damen Lindelof on Kimmel right now.

Kimmel was naming off things from tonights episode and they were revealing if it was intended or just coincidence.

Michael and Walt not being on the plane.."fate"

And remember the monster was in the Temple when Ben was judged. Maybe the monster had a truce not to disturb the temple while Jacob was alive. And now he's dead the people know the truce is over

Maybe more of a Irony thing being shown to the audience.

Also what the fuck happened to Widmore? He's just gone. Was a huge part of the story and now doesn't even matter.

I have a theory that says Richard used to be one of these secret temple people, and that they are are all like Richard. Richard got exiled somehow and stuff. Or something.

I say this because only Richard really seemed to know what was up with the firecracker, while the other Others looked confused.

I think its a mixed bag. Some have better lives, some worse. Either way, fate causes certain things to happen no matter what.

Fate vs Free Will is what it's all about

There was no part where I felt his absence. He's just not a part of the story currently.
Where was he missing?

He had no story obligations going into tonights episode, and given the current points in both realities, he just isn't a factor.
I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him, but even if we have he's served his part. Just like the Dharma folks. They weren't involved in tonights episode and they dominated the last season.

WHATEVER I hate this show. Never watching it again

The Island won't allow that

Just thought of something...

When Jack, Kate, Jin, Sawyer, Sayid and Hurley travlled back to present time from 1977 thanks to the bomb detonating, somehow a Dharma bus came with them.
Boy, that was convenient

Well, possibly but I don't think he'd be an exile since he has come and gone into the temple a few times.
At least once that I can think about off hand, with young Ben.

Maybe he was sent to monitor the others, who are another branch of that society.

kinda sad its the 'final season'

When Fake Locke said "good to see you out of your chains" to Richard, I kinda got the feeling he was referring to him being free of the immortality thing. Like maybe now that Jacob's dead Richard ages regularly.

Oh and yeah I agree that while things started a bit slower, they have set the scene for the entire season now and things can only get better from here. Can't wait to see how this all pans out.

very estute observation

Can anyone PM a link to a download/torrent/stream? Every link I have found goes to a MegaVideo stream which manages to fuck up after about a minute.

I got one. Top secret place you can watch the whole thing in high quality


www.abc.com

I don't believe ABC's videos work outside the US

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/lo...damon-carlton/


Good read for anyone interested

So was the temple society on the island the whole time? I've forgotten a lot of what's been said in the past seasons recently, just sort of too much for my head

Are they the anti-others?

Also, is this going to be evil-Sayeed? The way I interpreted it was that "Jacob" who told Hurley to take him to the temple was just the man in black using Jacob's figure.

Fucking wild.