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I don't think he can. I think the guy has Midcard written all over him in WWE. He hasn't broken into the main even yet so he probably isn't going to.

Also I can argee that he has that Gatekeeper spot that James Steele said.

He definitely can. He reminds me a lot of Eddie Guerrero since he's come back. Not a typical main event look. Likable as hell. And he's a face that you can actually enjoy watch bending the rules a little.

He also grasps a concept that great wrestling does not have to be paint-by-number. He does subtle things in his matches that just make him fun to watch. Like when he sets up a tempo to make it seem like there's a big move coming up and then he just slaps his opponent in the face. lol

The answer is yes. Look at this segment between Christian and Vince McMahon from 2005. He's go the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand and shows no fear or lack of charisma standing across from the WWE CEO.

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He's better as a heel though. Face main eventer Christian seems more far fetched.

Christian's face run is yet to lose steam, in my opinion. Christian's character has always been better as a heel, but right now I think he could move some t-shirts and get quite over if he rekindled his on-air relationship with Edge. Why fix what isn't broke?

If Christian turned heel, though, I hope the WWE roll with the punches. He's bound to keep getting cheered in some markets, and that will eventually catch on. Instead of shying away from it like they did in 2005 -- embrace it like they did with Eddie Guerrero. Fuck I miss Eddie. The man played a tremendous heel in 2005, even when everyone thought that there was no way the fans would turn on him.

Even though I would love it if Christian were to win MITB this year, I still feel that this year, it should have been the unstoppable JeriShow versus a reunited Edge & Christian at Mania for the Tag Titles.

It just would have fit very nicely with the Edge/Jericho feud (both finding new partners, wrestling for the belts they once shared), and would have really elevated Christian at the same time (as well as elevating the Tag Titles). Plus, I can't remember the last time a Tag Title match actually had interest, build, and a story on a WrestleMania card.

I just find it so stupid how looking back at it, the team that was "put over" to end JeriShow's dominate reign was DX. Just seemed like a wasted opportunity to me, but whatever.

I feel like he's being punished for going to TNA. Vince wasn't very high on him initially anyways (He isn't 6'8" with a big dioccck Vince can ride)... It's the same deal for R- Truth and Gail Kim... They're all more talented than the people they job too.

Am I the only one who feels Edge benefited greatly from fucking Lita and ruining Matt Hardy's life? That was the beginning of the whole Rated R Superstar and the first time fans really saw Edge in a main event light right? Otherwise I feel like he'd be midcard too.

Maybe he could win MITB, then help Edge beat Jericho before turning on Edge to set up a title feud.

The great thing about Christian at this point is that he's been in the business since 94 and has never been World or WWE Champion. There aren't many guys, if any, left in WWE right now that are active full time can say that. If pushed correctly, Christian could be next big Mania "life long dream" moment waiting to happen.

It's not as if they're going to acknowlegde his time in TNA as anything noteworthy. Christian could be the next big babyface for the company.

Every year someone talks about the MITB winner cashing in that night.

That situation could be the one. Jericho forms an alliance with Ezekial Jackson to protect him from Edge leading up to Mania. Christian wins MITB. Ezekial tries to interfere to help Jericho, Christian comes out to make the save, takes out Jackson, let's Edge get the win and take the title. Then Christian gets in the ring, hugs Edge, they celebrate and then BAM! Money in the Bank briefcase to Edge's head, ref gets called back in and Christian takes the title.

I mean, I'm right with everyone with being sick of 2 minute title reigns because of how much they cheapen the whole idea of setting up matches for titles but that one just feels right.

What's so great about Christian in the ring? I've never gotten it...

- His moveset looks weak and unimpactful
- He can't really carry people to good matches (like Zeke, for example)
- His "great matches" have been against better opponents, or with Edge by his side

And the Unprettier/Killswitch must be the worst finisher ever, because it seems like he attempts it 5 times in every match before he actually hits it. If it's so easy to counter, why keep doing it?

/logic

It's called building anticipation for the finish. It's not like every move in the WWE is the RKO or SCM and can come out of nowhere. By your logic, the Tombstone, Pedigree, Rock Bottom, and Stunner are all useless since they're "easy to counter".

High impact moves do not equal good in ring work. Batista hits a ton of "high impact" moves. Would you say his ring work is good?

In terms of carrying people, Christian is by and far one of the most consistent and solid workers in the company. His matche Zeke at the Rumble was praised here in the official thread as being a surprise match considering the lack of skill of Jackson.

The series of matches he had with Regal were one of the best collection of matches last year. He also had a good opener with Sheamus a few weeks ago, and made him look like a million bucks.

He also has the ability to connect with the crowd during his matches and draw them in to caring. That's not something everyone can do.

I remember this one match, it was Christian vs. Face Randy Orton.

Randy Orton, by this time had become the guy that just nobody cared about anymore because he was so terrible as a face.

However, Christian made me care about Orton in the course of the match. Which I thought impossible at the time.

This is precisely what I was talking about when I said he has the ability to draw people in and make them care about what's going on in his match. It's an intangible. Good man LJ.

While Edge has great facial expressions and has the marketable "look"

Christian is the better storyteller and his in ring psychology is subtle yet awesome he does little barely noticeable things that make him enjoyable to watch but much like Edge he has an amazing gravitas that just can't be taught
you've missed alot it seems concerning Christian.

Not only could Christian be a main eventer, but I sincerely believe that one day in the not too distant future, he very well could be the most over man on the entire roster. I can understand why people say he's a little too skinny, but his performance more than makes up for his lack of physicality. And to be honest, something in his in ring psychology reminds me of a early 90's Shawn Michaels. I think it's almost there for him...he just needs to tighten and tweek his style a little bit and he could be huge...and for what it's worth, I'm still waiting for that Christian/Cena feud to come to fruition.

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This is something I've thought about and would not mind seeing, but I don't think they HAVE to do it. They could milk the tension between the two for a while, or even have them as champions on opposing brands. It just depends if they want Christian to be a face or a heel, I guess.

Initially, I think you are correct. But time has gone on. Christian now finds himself on RAW. That is not a place you go when you are going to be punished. Christian also got to have a competitive match with the WWE Champion and got to be the first man to qualify for Money in the Bank. Right now, Christian is doing fine for himself.

R-Truth is also getting a MASSIVE push. More than what some people deserve he should get. It would not surprise me to see him with a World Title in the WWE at some point, and that is something I never thought I would say about K-Kwik.

If Christian become the most over man on the roster then the WWE is in trouble.

He's good not great. Nothing wrong with that.

You do realize that R-Truth is in the middle of being pushed on Smackdown, right?

I don't ever see Christian as a "top guy" in the WWE. Not saying he couldn't be. I just don't see them giving him that spot

Nothing wrong with being an upper midcarder

WWE would kill to get the kind of crowd reaction Christian was pulling in '05. And the beautiful thing is, his character from back then was 100% PG and family friendly. He was a cocky dork more or less. It worked then, I think it could work just as good today (if not better given the audience shift). He's already getting top level pops from months of being on ECW, I say he's one or two decent programs on RAW away from being a serious contender in that category. If I were the E, I'd start planning on building the company around Punk, Edge, Christian and Cena. Orton's been stale for a little while...Taker, HBK, and Bats can't carry the torch for too much longer. HHH is going to be like Flair in WCW; always there but his best drawing days are behind him. You take a guy like Christian, it's easy to pass him off as face or heel, in both instances he's kiddie safe...he's not injury prone, doesn't show signs of roiding, and I think he could be a great spokesperson for the company. Every single time WWE has thrown him table scraps, he's made an enjoyable feast. The fact that McMahon isn't instantly sold on him won't last forever - remember McMahon initially wasn't wild'n'crazy over Jericho and after Mania 18 everyone assumed he'd not only never hold a world title, but certainly never main event at Mania ever again......well......McMahon can be won over. I don't know where the limits of Christian's potential is, I just know I've never seen him struggle to exceed expectations. Sooner or later, he'll get his real shot.

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Christian isn't as good as Jericho, and he doesn't have the "it" factor that Cena has.

I really think if he could be long term main eventer WWE wouldn't have low balled him all those years ago. That's a telling sign what the WWE thought and probably still thinks about him. I will make the proclamtion right now that he has all ready reached his celing. We have seen the best of Christian.

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Christian's cocky dork character is one of my favourite characters of all-time. It was just so relentlessly entertaining. The way his confidence exceeding his abilities, but his abilities exceeded our expectations. And the reactions he got in 2005 were amazing. That year, to me, made me suspicious that the WWE hates money. Not only did they drop the ball with Christian; but they did so with Matt Hardy, too.

A question in regards to Christian: Did he bring back "That's how I roll" as a saying? I'd heard it in my youth and whatever, but when Christian started using it on WWE TV, it just had this dorky "Oh yeah, I said it," quality; but a few months after that I heard people casually using it in sentences. It was probably because of some rapper or something -- but did Christian lift that from pop-culture or did someone get inspired by Christian and start using it?

I agree but I don't think Christian is that far below Jericho. In terms of being booked, he's a title reign or two away from being on the same level, kayfabe wise.

I think if given his shot, Christian can main event. He has the mic skills to get over, his ring work is more than passable, and even his theme music is great.

It's just a matter of whether or not Vince and the creative team feel the same way about him as quite a few of us do.

Christian needs just one of the heavyweight titles to be equal to Jericho in terms of major titles or Triple Crown.

You know what would be kinda interesting? Have Christian win MITB and Edge win the title at 'Mania, and then have them reunite for a run w/ the unified tag straps.

Have Edge, say, start a short program post draft with Miz (giving him a bit of a main event rub in the process), and part in parcel, have Edge and Christian take the straps off ShowMiz. You would have that tension of tag partners who need to trust each other to win, but Edge being leery of Christian cashing in on him during one of their matches. Have Christian swear left and right that he won't screw his brother, keep them together, then bam, one night he lays out Edge, lets the opposing team (the Society?) pin him, and then he cashes. Instant heel heat.

I'd rather see Christian cash in whilst keeping the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship, and take Edge's share of the belts. Then he can walk around with five championship belts and look like a pimp.

Or, have a match where all the titles were on the line? Would make for a nice SSlam main event.

Though I feel like TNA did something like that with Angle a few years back.

At WrestleMania, Christian wins the Money In The Bank Ladder Match.

Batista and John Cena have a rematch at Extreme Rules and another rematch at Over The Edge. Batista wins back the title. After the match, Christian’s former music comes on. Christian walks out, holding the briefcase, and is cashing in, but Cena comes out of nowhere and hits Christian with an FU. Batista keeps the title, and Christian keeps the briefcase.

Cena comes out to explain his actions on RAW and says he wants to invoke his rematch clause. Vince McMahon says he has to earn it. That night, Christian costs Cena a #1 Contender’s Match.

Christian and Cena have a match at Fatal Fourway and rematch at Money In The Bank, where Christian pulls it off. Christian announces he’s cashing in against Batista at SummerSlam and going to prove that he has what it takes to be the WWE Champion. Christian wins the match at SummerSlam to become the new WWE Champion.

In my opinion, Christian could have been huge. Unfortunately, the WWE decided not to push Christian to that level. Can Christian still be a main-eventer in the WWE? I think so. However - I don't think he would be as big as he could have been...and that's a damn shame.

That always puzzled me too, I see Edge as the weaker of the two.

No...8 people stand in his way of the Main Event.

John Cena
Triple HHH
Shawn Michaels
Randy Orton
Edge
The Undertaker
C.M. Punk and Batista

Wrestlers that you found actually scary in real life?