Ratings be damned. The Observer Award results are in.

Tony Booker of the Year (obvs), AEW Promotion of the Year (obvs), Weekly show of the Year is Dynamite (obvs).

Proof that Dave isn’t all pro-AEW, WWE also won some awards: worst promotion, worst weekly show for Raw, etc.

WWE got every "worst" award. How RAW is rated the worst weekly show over Rampage is insane.

I think the only good award WWE got was best gimmick for Sami Uso.

They claim the observer awards are voted on by fans. I'm calling shenanigans on that. Fans may get to "vote" but their votes don't matter and Meltzer just puts out his personal list.

2 is why I wouldn’t be throwing streamers around yet (although 1.028 isn’t exactly an amazing number in the first place). Attention isn’t approval. You have to make your artificially inflated audience come back.

Lol at the Observer awards.

They could very well be voted on by fans.... but the fans who care about the observer and care about voting in it's awards would be fans who would be heavily pro-AEW

Nope. Nuh uh. Not buying that. Meltzer and TK are the only 2 people on Earth who would vote Rampage as a better show than RAW.

Hell rampage was voted as the 3rd best show. Come on.

There was about 2000 votes. 2000 votes from people so dumb they willingly give Dave Meltzer $13 a month. Those are not people who have reliable opinions.

Khan winning in his worst year of booking shows just how bad the competition is.

I hadnt considered that, I would probably watch 10-15 mins a week of Danhausen shenanigans. I would probably actually tune in for that.

Reality TV, nope but I know its been shown to work. Chat show... Hell no!

hmmmmm WB Discovery has announced they are getting out of the regional sports network business altogether and has informed the major sporting leagues of their decision.

Thats not a point of concern for AEW. WBD isnt bailing on sports in some sort of point of moral objection to athleticism or anything. WBDs broadcast partner Diamond Sports is going under making their stake a money pit.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR BRAVES BASEBALL AT 6:05 EASTERN ON TBS THE SUPERSTATION???

Shockingly nothing. The teams affected:

MLB - Houston Astros, Seattle Mariners, Pittsburgh Pirates, Colorado Rockies

NBA- Utah Jazz, Portland Trail Blazers, Houston Rockets

NHL- Seattle Kraken, Pittsburgh Penguins, Vegas Golden Knights

No it doesn’t.

lol so the claim about dynamite bringing in 4 million viewers has been clarified. They counted every TV that was tuned into to TBS from 7pm until midnight for at least 1 minute. They literally counted a bunch of people that didn't even watch a single second of dynamite. Such bullshit.

Source: Brandon Thurston of Wrestlenomics

If the competition was better, they would've won the award

lol you know these are the Observer awards, right?

No, the 2000 or so people who pay Meltzer are the biggest Smarks ever. The last and only time they voted WWE as promotion of the year happened to be the 2 years those Smarks decided WCW was the evil overlord and WWE was fighting back as the underdog.

Winning those awards is an admission that they are not the best, just that Smarks are gonna vote for the lesser than.

The thread vibe in the days before the Dynamite rating compared to the days after the Dynamite rating is nuts. lol

Just wait till Tiny buys WWE.

Vince wants $9 Billion, that is probably a bit more than Tiny's allowance would cover :lol:

That's exactly what tiny needs: another show to play real-life EWR. How do we make this happen?

I didn’t have any doubt that the numbers were fudged, exaggerated or complete bullshit. Those sorts of lies don’t help anyone. But hey, I guess they are desperate for some positive attention, so they’ll just make it up.

That’s not how anything works.

Whatever you gotta tell yourself, man

:lol:

If you honestly think the Observer awards are an accurate measure of anything then boy do I have a major announcement for you this Wednesday night on Dynamite! It's huge, it'll change the wrestling landscape forever!!!

Whatever he’s got to tell himself.

(I’m pretty sure he’s taking the piss at this point)

I only think they're accurate for things that cast aew in a positive light, and WWE in a negative one

Don't forget to tune into my hugest huge announcement ever.

Dude you’ve got that literally backwards.

Dirtsheets work like this: positive AEW or negative WWE story = made up nonsense not to be believed, negative AEW or positive WWE story from the same source = gospel.

It is a tricky one to wrap your head around.

XLs post there already has 78 million likes. Of course I'm counting every person that visited TPWW in the last 6 months as a like.

raw 1.76 million

Oof.

nxt - 555k

Oof.

When AEW gets a third hour, I wonder if people are going to start factoring that third hour into its performance on the night?

Lol I see where this is going. This fucking guy is really getting ready to factor in the ratings of a talk show airing after Dynamite as part of Dynamite’s rating in order to stick it to people who dare factor in the 3rd hour of Raw as part of the rating... for Raw…

Goddamn.

It’d be very late into the game at this point for Noid to start judging things as they are. Even if he is Mr Good Faith.

Also, it’s a reality show isn’t it?

Well considering AEW counts viewers from 7pm-12am when making claims on their viewership, I'm not understanding the issue with Noid counting that hour. AEW counts it whether its their hour, a talk show hour, people slapping each other or a rerun of Hunt For Red October, so what's the difference exactly?

Sounds like a certain Fan is in a state of what's known as THE SHAMBLES around here.

Lol, is he whinging about it? WWE has Raw registered as 3 separate hours. Why would it be ok to lump them all together while AEW gets to separate its third hour?

Lol Was that “4 million viewers” thing from AEW or someone with WBD?

Also, why do we have one weekly Raw thread when WWE has registered Raw as three separate hours. And people are always complaining “Raw sucked” as if it’s one thing when they should be specifying Raw 1, Raw 2, or Raw 3. THERE IS NO RAW SO YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SHOW AS A WHOLE ARE INVALID!!! WWE SAID!!!

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Sweet, I'll make 3 RAW threads just for you.

Is the implication that AEW will need 2 separate threads on Wednesday? Because it doesn’t.

A large chunk of the AEW show threads are people talking about what comes afterward and what they had for dinner anyway.

Not 3 Raw threads! 1 thread for each of the 3 Raws! How are you not getting this!? It’s so simple!

There is 1 Raw on TV but 3 Raws on television.

No it should have The PRE DYNAMITE HOUR thread, the Dynamite thread, the AEW Super Duper Ultra Mega Variety Hour thread, and finally the Post Dynamite Fallout thread. 4 threads. Because it's totes better than WWE and will have bigger numbers one way or another!

The Dynamite thread is lucky if it goes 2 pages without spam. Splitting that up? Sure, go for it.

Can we make 3 separate threads for Fan? One each for posts of Fan in Shambles, Fan Boiling, and Fan Loving CM Phil?

833,000 for Dynamite

Ouch

Scuttlebutt is the first hour did 1.2 million! Out of fairness, last hour doesn’t count!

HIGH FIVES IN THE REP SHEETS AGAIN WOOOOOO!!!!!

Sounds like the people who tuned in last week were burnt by the big announcement being a reality show.

Also, "OHHHH LAWWWWWWD!!!!!"

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NXT gonna pass Dynamite within the year and the shambles will flow.

Nobody tell him :rofl:
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Speaking of shambles, Vickie Guerrero just celebrated Dynamite‘s win by murdering her new husband just so she can DESECRATE another grave! TARDTATTERS AND SHAMBLES ALL AROUND!

I don't know about that

Yeah, did you miss when the NXT rating was already oof’d, seph? XL oof’d it.

SOMETHING SOMETHING SOMETHING DEMOS

It's because Pretty Peter Avalon didn't go over. They should've listened to me.

I know you read my posts, TK!

833k? Wow, Raw barely got double that. Ouch for WWE.

Which Raw?

ROH viewing figures are in…

7trillion.

Oof.

WOW!!!

Nyla Rose celebrating the ROH news by continuing to have a penis. Cumdorx with the dreaded TRANSPHOBE SHAMBLES! The only cure is 15 ROFL emojis wearing MAGA hats.

Are you really that dense? Pointing out the irony in a statement she made once does not constitute any of this stupid narrative you continue to spin. And you wonder why I do not respond to you most of the time. People tell me every now and then about your extra stupid posts. And yes, I know you dont believe that happens, but it does.

Another fun fact, any time I have posted a screenshot of my rep wall, I am very careful not to show the reps with comments of people saying what an idiot you are, but that does happen also.

I dunk on you with stupid memes because you have earned it, mostly with idiotic posts like the one I am replying to.

Saw a tweet earlier from Tony saying he has huge announcements (plural) coming. Watch out Raw (hours 1 & 2).

This is going to be hilarious. He’s drawn appropriate comparisons to Dixie Carter, but this is getting undeniable now. I’m just waiting for Josh Mathews to be All Elite.

858,000 for Dynamite

Time to fold up shop

TK and The Elite not draws, confirmed.

Bring back Pretty Peter!

That’s off the back of a PPV bump too. They had a chance to lure in new viewers when they had the artificial bump two weeks back and now they’ve got their audience and are running them off. It’s a good thing they’ve got Jeff Jarrett vs. Orange Cassidy booked for next week.

AEW does not have a vision. The criticisms of bookers is often that they just do what they want to do and not factor in what fans are actually hungry for. Tony Khan is no different. The PWG ironic wrestling stuff does not work. No one wants an insincere product. TK is going to jam it down people’s throats and declare it a success regardless of what the reality actually is.

He erroneously won Booker of the Year for a third time. He can step away and call his run successful. But he’s on the backfoot now he can’t just enact what he fantasy booked from the start. It’s time to put someone else in, identify what works and what doesn’t, and make the changes that are going to be reflected in the ratings, since their job will be conditional on their performance. Theoretically, anyway. Tony isn’t a results-driven boss, and even smart guys are probably going to leave barriers of entry like The Elite and Orange Cassidy alone.

This is what AEW is. If you like it? Fine. That’s your prerogative. But it’s awful and it objectively has a ceiling on its appeal. And it’s a shame for us who are craving good wrestling.

smackdown - 2.45 million
raw - 1.83 million
nxt - 624k
dynamite - 858k

Was NXT the big show this week, or is that next week? They could be getting dangerously close to overtaking AEW. Especially since this Shawn Michaels/Grayson Waller stuff could go somewhere. I know people aren’t expecting Shawn to get back in the ring, but I dunno…guys get itchy and Trips might call in a favor if he smells blood in the water…

There’s also the potential for a Raw/NXT crossover, some guys that aren’t popping on the main roster to go back, the possible influx of guys more polished than the absolute rookies (Jay White, Nick Aldis) and some NXT guys actually finding their feet on the main roster as a way to lend credibility to NXT on the horizon. They’re a hot-shot away from really giving it to Dynamite.

Also, holy shit at SmackDown.

Guess begging people to watch on Twitter during the show wasnt the secret formula :rofl:

Yeah this week was the Roadblock special which might indicate that’s around the top of NXT’s potential audience, especially with the potential for Shawn getting physical/announcing a return.

Shawn isn’t returning. It’s Waller vs. Gargano on Stand & Deliver which probably pops the NXT audience in person but doesn’t bring many extra eyes in.

I don’t think NXT touches AEW anytime soon, and if they do it’s more probable that it’s AEW coming down to NXT levels than NXT going up to AEW levels.

raw - 1.71 million

Oof?

Only twice as much as last week's Dynamite, that is practically Dynamite winning the Monday Night Wars!

We haven’t even seen how Dynamite and “All Access” are going to hurt those AEW numbers yet.

AEW has a show for almost every episode of the alphabet, A-E. All Access, Collision, Dynamite, Elevation.

NXT 590,000

Oof indeed

I mean if you count the "specials" then Bash at the Beach covers B.

Battle of the Belts.

Every episode is Dynamite Cocaine Party

There you go. I mean, there are the specials, Seph, but that makes it too easy.

852k for Dynamite. They’re under 50% of what Raw does.

Ooooooof.

Yeah because they hotshot specials every other week :rofl:

Remember the very first Dynamite ever got 1.4 million? It is weird they lost 600,000 viewers right? I mean they have 3x Booker of the Year, surely he has put on amazing TV, weird the audience is disappearing.