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Xero 09-15-2011 03:47 PM

Everything needs to move and evolve with the times, otherwise they're doomed to fail. I'm not saying they should scrap Sports Entertainment, because, honestly, I feel that's the only way pro wrestling will be able to sustain itself on a global or even national scale.

If wrestling now was exactly as it was in, say, the 70s, it wouldn't be anywhere near the popularity it is now. There's always a natural evolution. WWE (not pro wrestling) as it stands, won't be around for more than 10 years on the level they are if they stagnated. If they kept with the way they build their talent, especially. It's not something that has to happen now, but any business that doesn't realize that evolution is a very large part of staying relevant and successful is destined to fail.

Does Triple H really believe that what they're doing now is fine? I don't know. Maybe it was just a front to make the office (read: Vince) happy. But the down turn in buy rates and ratings is something that can't be ignored, and suggests that without evolution of some kind, things will take a turn for the worst in the future.

Saying that UFC, which a lot of the time does more buys, up to 100%+ more, than WWE, needs to evolve because it's "boring" is just an ignorant statement from Triple H and makes the company look like desperation from the midget trying to take a shot at the guy who's 6'8 and 350lbs. It honestly makes them look like WCW or TNA to WWE. Hell, it can even be compared to how WWE was taking shots at WCW when they were down, with the "Billionaire Ted" skits. The difference there was that WWE was on the verge of losing the battle legit. Here, WWE is a big enough entity that they aren't going to go down anytime soon. But, long term, it's a problem.

And, while they're different, WWE and UFC (and MMA in general) share a common fanbase. I don't think it's like 50% of MMA fans would watch WWE if it were cool/entertaining to them, but it's big enough that UFC is a legitimate competitor, and in that sense, WWE is losing.

Blakeamus 09-15-2011 04:15 PM

When I first read his statement about not evolving, I thought of not evolving WWE into MMA in their product.

But I totally agree with what you said Xero.

VSG 09-15-2011 04:16 PM

Isn't Hogan wrestling at BFG?

Xero 09-15-2011 04:18 PM

SPOILER: show
Apparently plans changed and he isn't.

Innovator 09-15-2011 04:23 PM

lolTNA

Xero 09-15-2011 04:44 PM

I dunno, I see that as more of a WTGTNA than lolTNA.

Juan 09-15-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:


At Monday's TNA Impact Wrestling tapings from Orlando, Ric Flair wrestled Sting in a match that's been described as a "disaster" by one reader who was at the show and sent in a live report. The match was so bad that many have said it has no place airing on television, considering the classic encounters between both men and what most fans will be expecting from a 'Flair vs. Sting' match.

Ric Flair reportedly injured his left arm during the match. Flair had TNA officials worried during the match after he clutched his shoulder and rolled out of the ring to re-group. Flair was icing his arm backstage after the match.

Regarding who is to blame, Flair was rusty from not wrestling lately and is in his 60's, Sting appeared to have forgotten a few spots in the match as he's been known to do, but at the end of the day, TNA are the ones who have the ultimate say and decided to book the match.

(Source: f4wonline.com)

Xero 09-15-2011 05:49 PM

Well that could explain the changed plans...

Emperor Smeat 09-15-2011 06:04 PM

WWE debuted a new series on their website called the "Eck’s Factor" which basically analyzes the segments and matches based on how much interest it got from Twitter or WWE Universe.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-09...actor-09-13-11

James Diesel 09-15-2011 06:07 PM

How is "Johnathan Ace seeking answers to Punk's mic malfunction" relevant in any way?

Xero 09-15-2011 06:09 PM

Yeah, saw that. Eck is the newest member of Creative.

Xero 09-15-2011 06:15 PM

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...8v9to1_400.jpg

Xero 09-15-2011 06:39 PM

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...8p73o1_500.jpg

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...8p73o1_500.jpg

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...8p73o1_500.jpg

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...8p73o1_500.jpg

Innovator 09-15-2011 07:13 PM

WWE_Creative WWE Creative



Sorry <s>@</s>CMPunk but we agree with HHH; UFC needs to evolve...into a company that will stop taking our business <s class="hash">#</s>Kayfabe

CSL 09-15-2011 08:34 PM

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg859/sca...=640&ysize=640

must have promised to not Gore anymore plant pots

Triple Naitch 09-15-2011 08:56 PM

Insert racist joke here.

Emperor Smeat 09-15-2011 08:57 PM

http://kotaku.com/5840657/wwe-great-...ove-of-hunting

Couldn't get the video due to Kotaku not having an embed option but its just HBK discussing his love for hunting while marketing some games he's endorsed.

Innovator 09-15-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3629590)
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg859/sca...=640&ysize=640

must have promised to not Gore anymore plant pots

I wish there was video of that...that and Tiffany beating the shit out of Drew.

CSL 09-15-2011 11:37 PM

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...82365075_n.jpg

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-15-2011 11:55 PM

"Mark Curtis" Brian Hildebrand. :(

It was awesome when he took down that one fan who came into the ring. They called him the Shooter for that.

Lock Jaw 09-16-2011 01:19 AM

http://i.imgur.com/wCfDS.gif

VINTAGE ARTISTIC COMBAT

Nicky Fives 09-16-2011 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3629686)

Who's the older guy to the right of shark boy, in the greenish shirt?

Xero 09-16-2011 08:11 AM

Looks like Bruno to me.

Xero 09-16-2011 08:13 AM

What is that from, by the way? One of the Pillman shows? It looks like it's from 98/99.

Xero 09-16-2011 08:23 AM

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FclOlw4ncw8?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FclOlw4ncw8?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

Jamie Noble vs. Shark Boy at one of the Pillman shows.

XL 09-16-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3627697)
Not really a spoiler if it's just something that you think might happen.

But this WILL happen! DUH! :roll:

Xero 09-16-2011 09:08 AM

Watching an episode of WCW Saturday Night from 94, and the crowd randomly started a "Whoop there it is" chant during a Steamboat/Jobber match. :wtf:

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Starts around 36:30. Full episode right there for anyone interested.

Aguakate 09-16-2011 09:13 AM

...I wonder if all this will just lead to another Mick Foley vs HHH match.

Innovator 09-16-2011 09:14 AM

Bruno Sammartino.

Innovator 09-16-2011 09:14 AM

dammit Xero

Xero 09-16-2011 09:34 AM

http://www.youtube.com/user/WCWMondayNitroOnYT
http://www.youtube.com/user/WCWMondayNitroOnYT2

Bunch of full Nitros on those channels.

Cool King 09-16-2011 09:34 AM


Cool King 09-16-2011 09:34 AM

I just wanted a reason to post that picture.

Xero 09-16-2011 09:35 AM

Did somebody say Christmas?

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Corporate CockSnogger 09-16-2011 10:05 AM

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_oqs5j5nVCIA/Sz...4/hhh%20dx.JPG

Corporate CockSnogger 09-16-2011 10:23 AM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5wvbbSdIe24" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Cool King 09-16-2011 11:16 AM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dooKJvrFlso" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Innovator 09-16-2011 11:47 AM

Everyone listen to Aftermath Radio, with MDogg20/Matt Cross guest cohosting. Tells a funny story about meeting Sheamus a long time ago, and Tough Enough stuff.

Lock Jaw 09-16-2011 12:39 PM

Had a dream that I was at a wrestling event. Something "serious business" was going on. Something so serious that the crowd was absolutely silent.

Until I yelled "WILLIAM REGAAAAALLLLLLL" at the top of my lungs and got a small Regal chant going.

Cool King 09-16-2011 12:53 PM

I had a dream about William Regal a few months ago.

In my dream, he bought some retail space at one of the shopping centres where I live and turned it into a wrestling school.

I attended and got trained by Regal and also some former and current WWE guys came along and helped out. I remember Chris Jericho, Al Snow, D'Lo Brown, Drew McIntrye, Sheamus, John Morrison, Finlay, Chris Masters and Raven were all there.


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