A fan of 10 plus years of MMA would not give two shits about production value. A new fan might.

What?

so MMA changes your personal preferences?

if you can see the two fighters, and the cameras stay on them from a reasonable distance, then how does the production kill the fight? IT DOESNT!!!

BAD FIGHTS KILL THE PRODUCTION! not the other way around. Good fights can save a shitty production.

I agree with that also..

You guys are taking this way too seriously..

IMO UFC is better than all other promotions.. Sure that is a biased opinion but I've admitted that numerous times..

Why do you guys care??

lol

Yes, UFC is hands down better than any other promotion.

That's all I said.. Well, that and I questioned why someone would spend money on another promotion, than to just watch UFC for free and then the other promotion for free later on..

Go back and read what I'm being attacked for..

Ridiculous..

You never said that though, you suggested that UFN was a better watching option than Affliction. Order of viewing and reasoning was never your point, you are just twisting this to make it seem like you are being hard done by.

That is bullshit, dude..

I said:

Then went on to agree with Rob that it was a subpar event..

As I said earlier today, why don't you quote me saying these things cause maybe you'll go back and read the whole argument and see what a dick you look like..

I didn't watch either but if I had to choose I would've gone with Affliction. The card looked so much better. Why would I watch guys who lost on TUF?

And that suggests you think Anderson for free is better than the whole Affliction card, not that you are going to download it later.

I don't quote because I don't want to. Simple.

What about Andrei, The Shell Arlovski? I guess that was just you stating that he was terrible at Affliction? Dick's in the mirror.

well he was saying that andrei WAS a shell. a lot of people thought that but he came in this weekend and showed that he was not. even if he was however, the fight would have been entertaining because rothwell would have been onm the offensive. He said after i posted the fight that he is "back"

the only problem i had with all this is when krispy basically said the fights were bad cuz the production was poor which just makes no sense to me.

Didn't say that at all..

Just saying that no promotion compares to UFC on value and shitty production can ruin a card IMO..

you pretty much said that exactly except it was even more broad to include every other organization

Are they not drug testing you for your fight, cause you are obviously high or something..

I never said the fights were bad..

I said that poor production quality can lead me, as a fan, to not enjoy the fights as much as I could.. I've had that happen with just about every company outside of Pride and UFC/WEC..

You guys keep putting words in my mouth..

Also, it's not that big of a deal to me.. There will be alot of other promotions pop up and try to put on shows that I won't pay money for, specially if there's a top fighter on a free card, being put on by the best MMA company in the world, that same night..

Settle down..

UFN hardly represents the quality of the best MMA company in the world. And I am stating that as fact and not just my opinion, because it is one.

If you base the MMA you watch on the in-fight camera transitions and positions, and the length of the pre-fight promo video, then great. There are idiots everywhere...

Yeah, cause that is exactly what I said..

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Anthony Johnson def needs to appeal that "loss" because I'm pretty sure they'd overturn it..

And here is the latest episode of ESPN's MMA Live which aired last thursday..

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It's bullshit that he lost that fight but there is really nothing he can do. The rules state that a ref cannot use replay to over turn a decision. The decision the ref made in the octagon was that Johnson lost by TKO. Its something the need to look into in the future but alas Rumble will just have to settle for the loss and hope the UFC gives him a rematch. This time hopefully Rumble doesn't gas halfway through the second round and start losing the stand up battle.

So what do you guys think of Hellboy winning the DREAM Lightweight GP as an alternate?

Well apprently no one cares about this subject but I know I think hit's a little tainted that he is the DREAM Lightweight Champion. Sure his win over Aoki was impressive, I've never seen someone fold like that from one shot of ground and pound. However, Hansen's victory over Gill (who isn't even a Top 20 Lightweight) and a win over Aoki doesn't seem like it should get him the GP title. However, he is so I think it only fair that they either give Aoki a re-match or what I suggest is that Eddie Alverez gets a shot at Hansen's title. Alverez already beat Hansen earlier on in the tournament and never was eliminated from it so I figure he should get the next shot.

I became an instant fan of Alvarez once he said "I could have fought with one eye against Aoki its not like I have to worry about him punching me or anything." I'm a fan of Aoki but that statement is so true Aoki seems deathly afarid of standing and I've never seen a guy pull guard as much as Aoki.

Haven't watched any on the DREAM shit yet..

:-\

its just like pride... good stuff

mmamania.com is saying arlovski vs fedor is set for oct 11th in vegas

That'll be fun training Andrei for that

thats gunna be a heck of a fight. Affliction has it going on right now. I'm impressed. And Josh Barnett is waiting. Its looking good so far.

Affliction Banned drew more at the gate then 2 of UFC's shows at the Honda Center

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...nkie&type=lgns

James Irvin's cut at an afterparty Saturday night..

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Also, Spike is running the whole BJ Penn vs Shawn Sherk PPV on Saturday oppisite the Elite XC CBS show..

As much as I like Arlovski and think he does deserve a shot at Fedor I think Barnett should have gotten the shot over him since Barnett has been waiting to fight Fedor since forever. But I'm sure they selected Andrei because he has more name recognition in the United States.

Affliction was great I just still hate MMA in rings too many re-starts occur when people are tangled in the ropes makes for a choppy fight. Affliction's larger ring did help to stop that.

If all goes well, I'll be scoring tickets to the upcoming EliteXC show. Lawler vs Smith II is gonna be sick IMO

I thought Couture was free to fight where he likes from October?

Either way, I was hopeful for Tim. Didn't do me any favours. Fedor is obviously a fucking beast, but Andrei was awesome as well. Rothwell is a tough bastard... I think if you watch that fight again, you will see Arlovski is just trying to work a bit in the second round. Draw it out and work his defence in a fight. He had total control in my eyes from bell to bell. I like a guy with striking like Arlovski's, and hopefully his hunger in a fight against Fedor.

Will it be Sylvia/Barnett maybe as well? How about Linland/Belfort? You have got to think Tito is going to play some part, if he read the payout figures this week...

I like what's going on with Affliction. It is already bigger than pretty much any other rival organisation, after only 1 show.

i was thinking about that, and I dont know how I would simulate him. Hes so fast and can move so well that its almost impossible to recreate.

I think that the next affliction cart should be:

Fedor v Cotour
Arlovski v Barnet
Babalu v Tito
Vitor v lindland
Aleksaner E v Sylvia/Rothwell
Rizzo v Sylvia/Rothwell

theres just been so much shit about this fight with randy, that it just needs to fucking happen. let the old man get his ass kicked.

Silva/Cote will be blah, but Alves/Machida and Bisping/Leban will be awesome..