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Bad News Gertner 10-04-2020 10:25 PM

I LOOOOOVE Too Cold. He's a bit chubby but can still go.

Tremont vs Homicide was terrible.




Mother fucking Sabu next

Emperor Smeat 10-04-2020 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5379021)
I didn't even know Too Cold Scorpio still wrestled. He was one of my favorites when I was little.

Besides the show Gertner watched, he also wrestling again this Friday for GCW's For the Culture show.

Its part of GCW's The Collective series that was originally meant to happen during Mania 36 weekend. That show, Janela's Spring Break 4 show, and Josh Barnett's Bloodsport 3 show look the most interesting out of the set of upcoming shows.

Bad News Gertner 10-04-2020 10:44 PM

Sabu got hurt during the match so they ended it early. Hurt his back. Tried to climb the top rope and had to climb back down, like three minutes into the match. Match didn't go 5 minutes.

slik 10-04-2020 11:51 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Rock talks about wrestling Roman Reigns at WrestleMania in this interview from his YouTube channel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> �� <a href="https://t.co/QuEuy7l66u">pic.twitter.com/QuEuy7l66u</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1312961574815105026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Droford 10-05-2020 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5379027)
Sabu got hurt during the match so they ended it early. Hurt his back. Tried to climb the top rope and had to climb back down, like three minutes into the match. Match didn't go 5 minutes.

1 minute for every 11 years old he is.

Surprised it lasted thst long lol

Lock Jaw 10-05-2020 12:56 AM

Randy "The Ram" Robinson would have got up that top rope no matter what

Big Vic 10-05-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5378238)
Seems WWE's new restrictions on outside third party services for their talent is even worse than previously assumed.

Before it was assumed that Twitch accounts would be mostly left alone as long as talent removed any WWE owned ring names or references in the accounts. Turns out WWE is taking over ownership of those accounts regardless if they are under their talents real names and also taking a chunk out of any money earned by their talent on the service.

Even worse is any leftover money talent receives from Twitch will now count against their downside guarantees meaning they are no longer earning any extra money on the side.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5378258)
I could see Paige wanting out of WWE since that new edict is going to hurt her the most out of everyone.

Why, is WWE targeting Porn Hub too?

Volare 10-05-2020 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5379070)
Why, is WWE targeting Porn Hub too?

Don't think she has her own channel on there....

GD 10-05-2020 09:21 AM


XL 10-05-2020 03:47 PM

TBH the only Mania Main Event I will accept is Roman v Rock.

Gerard 10-05-2020 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5378073)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You waited patiently, and now here it is!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BriscosBigAnnouncement?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BriscosBigAnnouncement</a>!!<br><br>Thank you Tony for making this happen!<br><br>PLEASE RETWEET &amp; SPREAD MY HUGE NEWS!!!! <a href="https://t.co/AKClBewOUt">pic.twitter.com/AKClBewOUt</a></p>&mdash; Gerald BRISCO ��█♂️ (@Fgbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fgbrisco/status/1311472991188860928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is he hoping to audition as a Geriatric Wolverine or something?

RP 10-05-2020 06:37 PM

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Emperor Smeat 10-05-2020 06:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked again about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWENXT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWENXT</a> being in the upcoming <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> Draft, Triple H reiterates he's genuinely unsure of whether or not that will be the case.</p>&mdash; Jon Alba (@JonAlba) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonAlba/status/1312942078956056582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The amount of ineptitude regarding WWE's management and decision making process is mind boggling.

Compared to WCW and TNA, WWE's ineptness is on another level but unlike those two, they haven't suffered any real crippling punishment because of it. Like WCW crashed as fast as they quickly rose in the mid to late 90s due to their ineptness coming back to bite them hard while TNA's ineptness has led to them being just a shell of their former self and hanging on by the skin of their teeth over the years.

Any struggles WWE has felt just gets offset by the massive money pouring into the company leading to them not really bothering to fix their core problems. Even the threat of a potential new serious rival hasn't really led to them making changes for the better for their overall product.

Droford 10-06-2020 01:22 AM

I cant see nxt being involved since it would be obvious how rigged it would be when NXT drafts guys like Shorty G and Akira Tozawa and raw/sd take more of nxt big names

Emperor Smeat 10-06-2020 02:03 AM

Ideally, NXT would also be drafting some of RAW & SD's big name stars to even out whatever big names they'd lose.

Right now, they likely are just going to lose a bunch of people anyways and get nothing in return like what happened with 205 Live with the last Draft and Superstar Shakeups.

At least with them involved in the actual drafting process, that would be WWE signaling once again that NXT is meant to be an actual brand and be in near equal status to their other brands until they decide afterwards to flip flop again on NXT's status.

Mr. Nerfect 10-06-2020 06:20 AM

Holy shit, of all the things to take a gripe with, the idea of a few roster moves not being sure of is nowhere near the level of incompetence of a WCW, TNA or AEW. It's possible that Trips is just keeping it under wraps or they haven't decided yet.

I'd be interested in the idea of AJ Styles going to NXT, but it's possible that NXT doesn't really get anybody because they've already achieved their goal against AEW anyway. Or AEW did it for them. 850k is not a threat.

Mr. Nerfect 10-06-2020 06:24 AM

The WWE are a content creation company at this point. They probably make more money off Main Event being put together and sold to India, Brazil and Australia than anyone except for maybe AEW makes for Dynamite. They're not as obsessed about whether wrestler (x) is going to be on (a) show as fans of the product are. It literally doesn't mean shit to them at this point, because the shows are just there to fill time in exchange for giant sacks of money. They are bad at communicating that to people, or don't want to, so you get non-answers about the things that don't really matter to them.

You can be annoyed that the WWE has become so big and unrivaled that they are just a money-printing operation now. The artisty is not there. But holy shit, you are incompetent if you think that they are incompetent.

Droford 10-06-2020 07:33 AM

The networks have too much say in who goes to what show and I'm sure if they want certain guys on SD they're going to SD. WWE has to deal with the fall out creatively instead of them getting to pick who goes where to fit their plans.

And ultimately I think USA cares more about its Flagship show in RAW than NXT. Ever since Retribution got outted to who they are they've stayed on RAW instead of showing up on SD.

I'm fairly sure the only NXT to SD move has been Riddle ..oh and the Forgotten Sons lol..

Whereas RAW got Baszler, Bianca Bel Air, Keith Lee Angel Garza and Retribution recently as well as Austin Theory for a short time

NXT has got demotions back from Breezango, Balor, Ember Moon and Austin Theory back

Mr. Nerfect 10-06-2020 11:35 AM

It also doesn’t really matter. They’re just WWE shows. What does it really fucking matter if AJ Styles is on Raw or SmackDown or where exactly Edge vs. Randy Orton takes place? It’s barely trivial.

Emperor Smeat 10-06-2020 06:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I wanna be... <a href="https://t.co/fqv086DAnQ">pic.twitter.com/fqv086DAnQ</a></p>&mdash; KAIRI SANE カイリ・セイン (@KairiSaneWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/KairiSaneWWE/status/1313442238433697793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 10-06-2020 09:57 PM

Most people looking at the syringe and I'm wondering why he has toilet paper under his door


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yo Braun Strowman, what's that over there?<br><br>Not a SYRINGE is it? <a href="https://t.co/AnOsXpJ326">pic.twitter.com/AnOsXpJ326</a></p>&mdash; THE WHOLESOME INSOMNIAC (@InsomniacRaging) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsomniacRaging/status/1313627718966284290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 10-06-2020 10:01 PM

Turns out Ryan Satin left Pro Wrestling Sheet for a new job with FOX Sports to cover WWE-related wrestling news.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� FOX Sports welcomes new digital contributor <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ryansatin</a>, who will provide regular commentary on the WWE for the new FOX Sports app and <a href="https://t.co/KIrd4IcvD0">https://t.co/KIrd4IcvD0</a>.<br><br>Here are the six moves he wants to see in the WWE Draft, beginning Friday on FOX.<a href="https://t.co/BVcxUT9EU4">https://t.co/BVcxUT9EU4</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports PR (@FOXSportsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsPR/status/1313574043069669376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 10-07-2020 02:11 AM

According to WrestleVotes, WWE has been working on ideas for Otis to lose the MitB case and give it to someone else instead since Creative soured on the idea of him being the one to cash in the case.

Only thing preventing it from happening is Vince supposedly is still a big fan of Otis and him having the MitB case.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There have been multiple pitched ideas to remove the MITB briefcase from Otis &amp; make the storyline a main focus again, some of which are really decent ideas I’ve been told. However, and this is a big however, Otis’ biggest fan is Vince. So right now, no go.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1313540783388200960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 10-07-2020 04:12 AM

Good. Otis shouldn’t have won.

Fignuts 10-07-2020 04:47 AM

Honestly, the whole concept is a bit stale at this point. I can't even remember who the last few people to win it before Otis were.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-07-2020 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5379508)
Turns out Ryan Satin left Pro Wrestling Sheet for a new job with FOX Sports to cover WWE-related wrestling news.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� FOX Sports welcomes new digital contributor <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ryansatin</a>, who will provide regular commentary on the WWE for the new FOX Sports app and <a href="https://t.co/KIrd4IcvD0">https://t.co/KIrd4IcvD0</a>.<br><br>Here are the six moves he wants to see in the WWE Draft, beginning Friday on FOX.<a href="https://t.co/BVcxUT9EU4">https://t.co/BVcxUT9EU4</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports PR (@FOXSportsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsPR/status/1313574043069669376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It upsets me that anyone makes posts about Ryan Satin.

Droford 10-07-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5379339)
It also doesn’t really matter. They’re just WWE shows. What does it really fucking matter if AJ Styles is on Raw or SmackDown or where exactly Edge vs. Randy Orton takes place? It’s barely trivial.

It matters to FOX and USA.

Droford 10-07-2020 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5379590)
Honestly, the whole concept is a bit stale at this point. I can't even remember who the last few people to win it before Otis were.

How could you forget Brock winning in 2019 and using the briefcase as a boom box?

Black Widow 10-07-2020 09:56 AM



Damn! Some nerds really don't realize how much of a loser they come off as.

Lock Jaw 10-07-2020 10:03 AM

You just jealous that that dude got to meet Sasha Banks

Black Widow 10-07-2020 10:12 AM

Difference is it wouldn't be a puppet i was sticking my fingers in if it was me.

Lock Jaw 10-07-2020 10:41 AM

Slow down there Sammy Guevara

Evil Vito 10-07-2020 11:14 AM

WWE are advertising for new writers.

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Key Responsibilities:

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Those key responsibilities are hilarious given the current state of their storytelling.

Emperor Smeat 10-07-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5379595)
It upsets me that anyone makes posts about Ryan Satin.

Th guy acts like a wanker online but just found it very interesting how abrupt his departure was from Pro Wrestling Sheet and him going right back to FOX for some of that sweet WWE-related money he was getting before.

Probably was applying for the job behind Pro Wrestling Sheet's back since he sold the website to new owners some time back and was hush about his future unlike the last time where he was more open about getting a job with FOX and WWE.

At least it wasn't something harassment-related since supposedly that was one of the factors behind his departure from TMZ.

Emperor Smeat 10-07-2020 03:35 PM

Apparently Florida will be lifting their restrictions on attendance for live events very soon.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The state of Florida will begin allowing full capacity attendance for stadiums events. <br><br>Vince has been privately holding out hope for a full capacity WrestleMania. He gets his wish. Whether or not 65K fans show up is another question.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1313894463106842626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave 10-07-2020 03:54 PM

FL proving one again why it gets made fun of so often.

XL 10-07-2020 04:22 PM

Jesus that’s bold. Like start with 50% capacity and see how many people that kills first.

Lock Jaw 10-07-2020 06:55 PM

Would be "funny" if dumb wrestling fans packed the crowd and were chanting "we are awesome", and then later all got the Covid

Fignuts 10-07-2020 07:21 PM

WE ARE VOMITING CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

Emperor Smeat 10-08-2020 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5379507)
Most people looking at the syringe and I'm wondering why he has toilet paper under his door


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yo Braun Strowman, what's that over there?<br><br>Not a SYRINGE is it? <a href="https://t.co/AnOsXpJ326">pic.twitter.com/AnOsXpJ326</a></p>&mdash; THE WHOLESOME INSOMNIAC (@InsomniacRaging) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsomniacRaging/status/1313627718966284290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

According to Braun, the syringe is for B12 shots since his body has an issue processing caffeine. He didn't answer the mystery of the toiler paper under his door though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Braun Strowman on the syringe in his bathroom: “For everyone trying to make a big deal about the last post I did and delete. I take b12 shots everyday because my body is super sensitive to caffeine and I can only use so much without feeling like I’m having heart palpitations.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/6xwqA0xsfi">pic.twitter.com/6xwqA0xsfi</a></p>&mdash; Daily Wrestling News (@DailyWWENews) <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyWWENews/status/1313844869610127361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Droford 10-08-2020 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5379740)
Apparently Florida will be lifting their restrictions on attendance for live events very soon.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The state of Florida will begin allowing full capacity attendance for stadiums events. <br><br>Vince has been privately holding out hope for a full capacity WrestleMania. He gets his wish. Whether or not 65K fans show up is another question.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1313894463106842626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tickets should be cheap

I might go

Droford 10-08-2020 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5379767)
WE ARE VOMITING CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

Thats not covid clap clap clap

Bad News Gertner 10-08-2020 12:38 PM

Whatever happened to Dalton Castle? I remember he was like the talk of wrestling for a while.

Nicky Fives 10-08-2020 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5379942)
According to Braun, the syringe is for B12 shots since his body has an issue processing caffeine. He didn't answer the mystery of the toiler paper under his door though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Braun Strowman on the syringe in his bathroom: “For everyone trying to make a big deal about the last post I did and delete. I take b12 shots everyday because my body is super sensitive to caffeine and I can only use so much without feeling like I’m having heart palpitations.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/6xwqA0xsfi">pic.twitter.com/6xwqA0xsfi</a></p>&mdash; Daily Wrestling News (@DailyWWENews) <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyWWENews/status/1313844869610127361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I immediately think that's a closet/pantry for towels where he sticks his extra rolls of tp and he maybe has a cat that likes to fuck with it....

Black Widow 10-08-2020 01:19 PM

Loser really wasted $ to be cringe again.


Fignuts 10-08-2020 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5379993)
Whatever happened to Dalton Castle? I remember he was like the talk of wrestling for a while.

He's still in ROH.

Speaking of which, ROH is getting some buzz right now. They've reinvented their presentation to be a pure sports style production. Even the wrestling itself is supposedly a bit slowed down from the usual indy stuff. I might get honor club for a month to check it out.

Bad News Gertner 10-08-2020 02:28 PM

Does he still do the same gimmick? I remember it was Dalton Castle and his Boys

Fignuts 10-08-2020 03:01 PM

Not sure, but I think he has the same gimmick, just toned sown a bit.

Emperor Smeat 10-08-2020 04:50 PM

According to Fightful, WWE has been holding talks for the past year regarding the idea of NXT getting a second weekly TV show.

These talks went as far as reaching the planning stage prior to WWE's recent outbreak and its currently not known if WWE is still going ahead with these plans.

The show itself had a tentative name of "NXT Underground" and would feature unused talent and their recent EVOLVE signings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fightful
There could be more NXT content on the way soon. Fightful has learned that a once-pitched NXT product was at least in the planning stages in September, before the most recent outbreak.

Once pitched as "NXT Underground" well before "Raw Underground" happened, but it wasn't to be anything like the Raw Underground we see today, outside of having peers watch the show. The idea was floated around last year, but not everyone was on board with the idea, which was tabled. There was a pilot for the event shot at the WWE Performance Center in Summer 2019, which would have been the setting of the event. We're told it has long been a Ryan Katz project.

The latest we've heard is that some unused NXT talent and new EVOLVE signings were tentatively planned for the show. Again, we are unsure of how the recent COVID outbreak have affected this.


Emperor Smeat 10-08-2020 05:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 years ago today, Sasha vs Bayley Ironwoman Match happened at Takeover: Respect. We got this gem ������<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/fNw3mKcywe">pic.twitter.com/fNw3mKcywe</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@FightfulWrestle) <a href="https://twitter.com/FightfulWrestle/status/1313895558420070400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 10-08-2020 05:55 PM

Finns jaw broken in 2 places.

Emperor Smeat 10-08-2020 07:13 PM

AEW's home network TNT is about to get hit with a huge wave of layoffs as part of WarnerMedia's current restructuring plans that are massive in scale.

Main reason is WarnerMedia has been getting hammered in revenues in several key areas during the coronavirus pandemic and their HBO Max streaming service being a big bust in terms of expectations and revenues since its launch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
The company is implementing the cuts due to the decline in revenue from cable subscriptions, television ad revenue and movie ticket sales. The company noted that "an acceleration in shifting consumer behavior, especially in the way content is being viewed" is responsible for much of the decline.

"Like the rest of the entertainment industry, we have not been immune to the significant impact of the pandemic," a WarnerMedia spokesperson said in a statement. "That includes an acceleration in shifting consumer behavior, especially in the way content is being viewed. We shared with our employees recently that the organization will be restructured to respond to those changes and prioritize growth opportunities, with an emphasis on direct-to-consumer. We are in the midst of that process and it will involve increased investments in priority areas and, unfortunately, reductions in others."

This is the second round of layoffs for WarnerMedia as they cut 500 jobs in August at Warner Bros. Both NBCU and WarnerMedia have implemented layoffs recently as they pivot towards streaming. While WarnerMedia's HBO Max service has only garnered 4.1 million subscriptions since it launched in May, overall HBO subscriptions, which includes viewers watching it on premium channel bundles, rose to 36 million. It was noted that the increase in subscriptions "hasn't offset deeper declines at the commercial entertainment cable networks TNT, TBS and TruTV."

The huge hit in ad revenues probably going to get worse for WarnerMedia and the TV industry in general since that was a huge fear experts had with the coronavirus pandemic if it didn't ease up prior to the Fall sweeps.

AEW got extremely lucky with the timing of their modified TV deal with TNT since they would be hurting just as badly if the only real money coming in was from their share of ad revenues.

Droford 10-08-2020 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5380111)
Finns jaw broken in 2 places.

The NXT title seems cursed all of a sudden.

Kross Separated his shoulder winning it and Finn broke his jaw in his first defense.

Emperor Smeat 10-08-2020 11:53 PM

WWE got named in a $40 million civil lawsuit filed against Matt Riddle and others in regards to the sexual abuse allegations surrounding him.

Among the allegations in this lawsuit includes Riddle bragged about sexually abusing Candy Cartwright to EVOLVE's owner and he did nothing about it and Riddle playing a major role in getting her bookings with WWE and EVOLVE earlier this year to be dropped because she wouldn't continue performing sexual acts on him.

The lawsuit does have some issues though in regards to getting a date wrong about Riddle's signing with WWE and how it portrays the partnership between WWE and EVOLVE since the inclusion of WWE as a defendant is the shakiest out of the group listed.

https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/c...-evolve-322136

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2020 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5380081)
According to Fightful, WWE has been holding talks for the past year regarding the idea of NXT getting a second weekly TV show.

These talks went as far as reaching the planning stage prior to WWE's recent outbreak and its currently not known if WWE is still going ahead with these plans.

The show itself had a tentative name of "NXT Underground" and would feature unused talent and their recent EVOLVE signings.

Yeah, no shit. This is why they put NXT on unopposed for a few weeks without AEW around. Not because they “wanted the jump,” which doesn’t make any fucking sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5380124)
AEW's home network TNT is about to get hit with a huge wave of layoffs as part of WarnerMedia's current restructuring plans that are massive in scale.

Main reason is WarnerMedia has been getting hammered in revenues in several key areas during the coronavirus pandemic and their HBO Max streaming service being a big bust in terms of expectations and revenues since its launch.



The huge hit in ad revenues probably going to get worse for WarnerMedia and the TV industry in general since that was a huge fear experts had with the coronavirus pandemic if it didn't ease up prior to the Fall sweeps.

AEW got extremely lucky with the timing of their modified TV deal with TNT since they would be hurting just as badly if the only real money coming in was from their share of ad revenues.

Hopefully they just cut AEW. They wouldn’t be getting anywhere near the ad revenue of a show that has that many viewers, especially with the 50/50 split. It’s probably performing at no better than 40% of what a show with that number of people watching should. Smart money would be to scrap that and start their own promotion or give the spot to someone else for less money and possibly more viewers.

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WWE got named in a $40 million civil lawsuit filed against Matt Riddle and others in regards to the sexual abuse allegations surrounding him.

Among the allegations in this lawsuit includes Riddle bragged about sexually abusing Candy Cartwright to EVOLVE's owner and he did nothing about it and Riddle playing a major role in getting her bookings with WWE and EVOLVE earlier this year to be dropped because she wouldn't continue performing sexual acts on him.

The lawsuit does have some issues though in regards to getting a date wrong about Riddle's signing with WWE and how it portrays the partnership between WWE and EVOLVE since the inclusion of WWE as a defendant is the shakiest out of the group listed.

https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/c...-evolve-322136

Sounds like the Kyros concussion lawsuit.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 04:09 AM

The Cartwright lawsuit is barely anything like the Kyros lawsuit since what doomed that concussion lawsuit was it being way too ambiguous with the claims being made against WWE and Kyros having a history of filing frivolous lawsuits and acting very unprofessional on the job.

The reason WWE is the shakiest is due to them being a lot tougher challenger to prove against since the basis of her claims of them being complacent in Riddle's sexual abuse revolves around the weakest and easiest part of her lawsuit to take apart on WWE's end. Even if an amended lawsuit fixes and/or strengthens the EVOLVE connection, still going to be tough to beat WWE's legal machine. The dates in question are the easiest to resolve in an amended lawsuit since they are only off by a bit.

Had Riddle not filed a civil lawsuit against her, I doubt she would have even filed this one against Riddle and others. Riddle's prior legal case involving the restraining order against her got torn to pieces by her lawyer and the general feeling was had Riddle gone to court over it, he was going to lose badly.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 04:26 AM

Why would WarnerMedia or TNT even consider dumping AEW since both have been praising the company a lot for the numbers and consistent high rankings they've been giving to the network compared to what TNT used to get on Wednesdays during that time slot.

Also WarnerMedia already mentioned they have long term expansion plans in place for AEW with their other properties.

Just because you hate AEW doesn't mean what you suggested is a bright idea. If anything, probably would just hurt TNT way more since your asking for them to spend a lot of money to start up their own promotion when ITV already proved that's not a wise idea for a network to do or assume they can even find another company that would produce similar results as AEW when that's less likely to happen.

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2020 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5380216)
Why would WarnerMedia or TNT even consider dumping AEW since both have been praising the company a lot for the numbers and consistent high rankings they've been giving to the network compared to what TNT used to get on Wednesdays during that time slot.

Also WarnerMedia already mentioned they have long term expansion plans in place for AEW with their other properties.

Just because you hate AEW doesn't mean what you suggested is a bright idea. If anything, probably would just hurt TNT way more since your asking for them to spend a lot of money to start up their own promotion when ITV already proved that's not a wise idea for a network to do or assume they can even find another company that would produce similar results as AEW when that's less likely to happen.

The answer was in my last post. Because they're probably doing utter shit when it comes to ad revenue. Companies don't usually come out and say that shit, but there's no actual evidence that they are genuinely happy (other than people interpreting PR talk and spin the way they like) or that AEW is actually doing that well.

Being "top five" means shit if you're not making the network mint.

Let's say they licensed some ROH content off Sinclair for $20 million a year. They'd save $25 million on rights and could also keep twice as much ad revenue. Get Sinclair to front the costs for Brock Lesnar, CM Punk and Ronda Rousey (in a few months). How does that hurt them? Because they don't have Silly Billy Chris Jericho on their show anymore? Pfft. He'd jump ship if given the chance anyway.

WarnerMedia can announce expansion plans all they want. They announced expansion plans and then they announced they are culling their fucking ranks.

drave 10-09-2020 07:41 AM

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 01:02 PM

So your bright idea is for TNT to replace AEW with an even more niche of a company and get a notorious penny pinching owner to spend millions on a few part-timers that won't help the company in the long run. That's assuming Sinclair can even get two of those 3 since I seriously doubt WWE would let a rival easily snag Lesnar and Rousey.

Whatever savings they get from ad revenues splits is going to evaporate afterwards if ROH doesn't maintain what AEW had been doing for TV numbers.

mike adamle 10-09-2020 01:12 PM

Anyone watching the collective?

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 02:02 PM

Going to watch just Janela's Spring Break 4 and Bloodsport 3 shows from the Collective set of shows.

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5380257)
So your bright idea is for TNT to replace AEW with an even more niche of a company and get a notorious penny pinching owner to spend millions on a few part-timers that won't help the company in the long run. That's assuming Sinclair can even get two of those 3 since I seriously doubt WWE would let a rival easily snag Lesnar and Rousey.

Whatever savings they get from ad revenues splits is going to evaporate afterwards if ROH doesn't maintain what AEW had been doing for TV numbers.

It’s only “more niche” because it doesn’t have the exposure. AEW doesn’t scrape 850k viewers because it is good content. It’s because the Khans’ capital bought their way to #2. You’re entire premise of the criticism is flawed, but nice try.

Brock Lesnar, CM Punk and Ronda Rousey wouldn’t help a company long-term? You’ve been smoking the Meltzer plant for too long. Of course they would fucking help. You put Brock Lesnar vs. anybody, CM Punk vs. anybody and Ronda Rousey vs. anybody on a PPV and you’ve made three stars bigger than anyone in AEW overnight. And you know that. You’re just a mark for the smark snark.

Any wrestling product would draw as well (or as badly) as AEW. It would probably be smarter to replace it with something that isn’t wrestling, because you’d get more ad revenue out of it in the first place.

XL 10-09-2020 03:58 PM

Maybe The Rock could bankroll this company with Lesnar, Punk, and Rousey. Maybe they could get Jacob Fatu in (is he still in your/Cornette’s good graces?) and they could take over the world?

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 04:57 PM

Even for The Rock, Lesnar might be way too pricey of a talent to get for a new promotion. Based on some numbers that floated around, Lesnar got somewhere around $12 million just from his last year with WWE. Based on reports of how he does business dealings, not going to get him for any cheaper than what he's been getting paid by WWE.

For some comparison, Noid once suggested for NJPW to hire Lesnar to a contract despite Lesnar making around a third of what NJPW makes in an entire year for net revenues.

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5380309)
Maybe The Rock could bankroll this company with Lesnar, Punk, and Rousey. Maybe they could get Jacob Fatu in (is he still in your/Cornette’s good graces?) and they could take over the world?

Lol, yeah. Silly me, predicting that The Rock might get into the live entertainment. It's not like he then went on to buy a currently defunct football league or anything.

Brock Lesnar has a WWE asking price. I'd have a very high asking price too if I had to go out and perform in such a boring environment. New Japan absolutely could have made an offer to Brock. The increase you could potentially see in business could provide future dividends. Sinclair are a multi-billion dollar entity. If they wanted to, they could offer Brock every bit of $12 million to appear for a few PPVs and use that to segue into a cable TV deal that blows AEW out of the water. Those rights fees can add revenue streams while they don't actually have to lose what ROH already brings them (in fact, it'd likely become more popular).

MLW don't have much capital themselves, but they are connected to entities that desperately want (in some cases, need to expand). Signing wrestling stars to perform on their wrestling properties so they can increase their revenue from their wrestling makes sense. If DAZN and BeIN Sports split the costs of a few Lesnar dates between them, having Brock on their content could potentially allow a network deal of even just $25 million to be made, which covers Brock and allows MLW to make the big plays to future talent to also draw people in. This goes to DAZN's specials and the BeIN ratings too.

There is definitely room in the world for a new default #2 promotion. AEW is only there because the Khans had the money and the connections to sign Jericho and JR and get the TNT deal before any content was actually produced. Tell me I'm lying, lol. Since then, they've signed NO real stars (Luke Harper, Matt Hardy and The Revival don't really count as being on that level). It's been a bust in terms of the potential. If anything else comes along, it's got a real good shot at supplanting AEW, as long as it actually has the platform to compete. If TNT wants wrestling, they'd probably prefer that wrestling over #3. I just cut out the middle-man there.

Rock puts $7 million into a wrestling promotion and you don't think there is anyone with money out there that isn't going to cover the rest of the bases to get something off the ground? And you don't think Dwayne fucking Johnson -- the biggest star in Hollywood right now, and the guy who turned ripped people hitting watermelons with hammers or whatever into a 3 million viewer hit on NBC -- isn't going to be able to walk out of an interview with some TV executives with a giant sack of TV rights money? It's literally a license to print thanks to where television is right now.

May 2021. That's the ideal announcement time. Because that's when Ronda Rousey gets out of her WWE deal (which they could possibly elongate because of her time off if they know in advance). It's also sweeps time and upfronts. Imagine The Rock showing up at one with Ronda and showing a promo for his new wrestling promotion to launch over the summer or whatever. Instant storm of attention.

ROH and MLW getting major cash flow injections is the other. Sinclair and DAZN want to play. You need to pay to play. But any of these things pisses all over the vanity project on TNT.

mike adamle 10-09-2020 05:59 PM

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Going to watch just Janela's Spring Break 4 and Bloodsport 3 shows from the Collective set of shows.

I got the whole package. Atticus Cogar almost got his ear cut off by a light tube earlier in the main event of the first show.

Also had a syringe put through his neck...

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 06:09 PM

Yikes. Did they stop the match to attend to his ear injury or he just went ahead with things as is?

Stuff like syringes and blade boards are the things I like the least about deathmatches and indie style hardcore matches. With syringes, its mostly because I don't like needles in general.

mike adamle 10-09-2020 07:05 PM

The ref held Colby corino back a little bit longer than normal but other than that nothing.

SUP show was really good and prob should've opened the day. Lee Moriarty vs Daniel Makabe was a really good move for move technical contest

mike adamle 10-09-2020 09:11 PM

Alex Shelley vs lee moriarty vs Tre Lamar from aiw is match of the weekend so far. One of the best 3 ways in recent times

Droford 10-10-2020 01:24 AM

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The Bischoff vs Retribution twitter stuff is better than anything WWE has done with them lol

Mr. Nerfect 10-10-2020 04:28 AM

Donovan fucking owns Bischoff on Twitter.

mike adamle 10-10-2020 08:59 AM

AIW show from the collective was a banger. The no rope barbed wire match was insane. I think Matthew justice got legit knocked out by a chair shot to the head. Awesome stuff, new favorite match of the weekend.

Fell asleep before For The Culture, watching it now. So far its an Indy spotfest show.

thecc 10-10-2020 10:46 AM

Gonna be watching big gay brunch live. Will probably also watch for the culture and AIW later.

Black Widow 10-10-2020 10:48 AM

Wtf is a big gay brunch?

drave 10-10-2020 10:58 AM

just "brunch"

mike adamle 10-10-2020 11:21 AM

Its pretty bad so far lol

mike adamle 10-10-2020 11:22 AM

For the culture was a good 3 matches. Ach vs lee moriartt was match of the show

mike adamle 10-10-2020 11:23 AM

Aiw was really good, sup was surprisingly good too. D-generation.f sucked

thecc 10-10-2020 11:50 AM

Dark Sheik/ Still life with apricots and pears was fun. Really wish Kevin Gill wasn't on commentary.

mike adamle 10-10-2020 12:25 PM

It was alright. Went on forever

Black Widow 10-10-2020 12:39 PM

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just "brunch"

Sounds super cringe

mike adamle 10-10-2020 12:52 PM

It is

mike adamle 10-10-2020 01:27 PM

I'm sure the parents with kids there loved the jizz spewing dildo curbstomp spot at an 11 a.m. show

Black Widow 10-10-2020 03:36 PM

Another loser to go along with puppet man:lol::rofl:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7Gp3GX...jpg&name=large

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 07:23 PM

Opening match between Orange Cassidy and Rickey Shane Page at Joey Janela's Spring Break 4 was pretty good.

The pre-match shenanigans and swerves with the Open Challenge stip was also a bit funny.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 08:10 PM

IronBeast vs. The Rascalz and Lee Moriarty vs. Jonathan Gresham matches were very good although that Moriaty vs. Gresham match went on for way too long.

That's the only real complaint I have about Janela's specialty shows since there always seems to be that one match that just goes on and on and either drags down the show's flow or makes these GCW shows feel a bit too long for its own good.

Savio 10-10-2020 08:19 PM

How much do wrestlers get paid for those fan interviews?

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 08:28 PM

Blake Christian just busted out one of the worst ever looking hurricanranas. Like his body forgot half-way what it was doing and paused in mid-air.

mike adamle 10-10-2020 08:30 PM

But that leg cradle stuff pile driver by Chris dickinson was niiiice

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5380670)
How much do wrestlers get paid for those fan interviews?

Probably nothing unless it also involved the wrestler's company or like those shoot video interviews.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 09:26 PM

6-man tag with Ortiz & Santana, Tony Depen vs. Alex Shelley, and Lio Rush vs. ACH were all very entertaining.

3 matches left on the card but one being the Clusterfuck that's going to be extra long based on how Janela and Ethan Page have booked them in the past.

I'd be surprised if this Spring Break 4 show hits under 4 hours with the rate things are going.

Oh wow ... Janela vs. Ricky Morton isn't the main event match.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 09:31 PM

Not sure if Morton suddenly got fatter or that shirt and gear combo isn't a flattering look for him.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 09:44 PM

Janela va. Morton was way better than I was expecting. Some of the stuff Morton did and took was crazy for someone of his age.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 11:05 PM

Clusterfuck Battle Royal was very entertaining overall.

Might have been the best in terms of ring action but not in terms of general craziness since that still goes to the first one from these Spring Break shows.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 11:44 PM

The main event deathmatch was pretty good.

Joey Janela's Spring Break 4 show was very entertaining overall but someone really needs to tell Janela just because you have a 4-5 hour window for these shows, doesn't mean you actually need to almost go right to that length each time.

Vastardikai 10-10-2020 11:48 PM

I feel like I'd like Janella a lot more if he didn't wrestle.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 11:52 PM

Sort of feel bad for the next indie group since GCW left them like 15 minutes before the start of their show for cleanup and ring prep assuming it can even start on time now.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5380727)
I feel like I'd like Janella a lot more if he didn't wrestle.

He has a great wrestling mind when it comes to putting together indie shows but he's also someone who can be divisive in terms of his wrestling skills since he comes from a deathmatch and hardcore background.

If you like that sort of stuff, then he's fine as a wrestler overall but if not, then he's not going to really wow you with his skills.

slik 10-10-2020 11:59 PM

Great Jericho Moments


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