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GD 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

Whoa! That was insane.

Savio 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5024951)
At least they are doing something with Sami Zayn!

True. Maybe he and KO will end up like Dean/Seth and do some mutual fisting.

Evil Vito 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

Loved that ending

Locke 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

Seems good that JBL was not on this broadcast that's good

Triple A 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

that was cool...

+ glad they are actually doing something interesting with Sami Zayn

Lock Jaw 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

Wonder if Shane's "faith" will get shaken any due to him always saying a prayer before jumping off tall things, and always seeming to miss........ existential crisis would be a good angle.......

DaveWadding 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5024962)
Whoa! That was inZayn.


Theo Dious 10-08-2017 11:31 PM

THAT WAS AMAZING AND ONLY A FAGGOT WOULD THINK OTHERWISE

Lock Jaw 10-08-2017 11:34 PM

Sami Zayn has snapped!! Remains to be seen if he will become a badass submission machine or not.

Savio 10-08-2017 11:34 PM

Where's Daniel? :(

DAMN iNATOR 10-08-2017 11:34 PM

A few great matches tonight...a few MEH and WTF ones too...would give the show a 'C-' overall.

Evil Vito 10-08-2017 11:35 PM

Sami can do something detestable for the right reasons and he's still loveable. He's like the embodiment of the Mark Twain quote, "Who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most" Even though KO is the most detestable monster on Smackdown, he didn't deserve Shane's death penalty.

rez 10-08-2017 11:36 PM

mmm Rennnnneeee

Dark One 10-08-2017 11:36 PM

Really excited for the "Sami Zayn has battered spouse syndrome" storyline.

Lock Jaw 10-08-2017 11:37 PM

Was thinking about Sami Zayn maybe as Jinder Mahal's next opponent but I guess that isn't happening.

Anybody Thrilla 10-08-2017 11:41 PM

That sort of ending is why I would hate to know spoilers.

Evil Vito 10-08-2017 11:43 PM

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Bet Rosenberg's happier to be sitting alongside Renee Young instead of this dude and his epic rants.

DAMN iNATOR 10-08-2017 11:54 PM

AJ Styles - Phenomenal wrestler, judge of PPV quality? Not so much.

Jordan 10-08-2017 11:57 PM

Hey boys, should I watch this show? The main is already spoiled for me but whatever... I'm gonna watch that regardless, but should I go for the undercard too?

rockman725 10-08-2017 11:57 PM

Much better PPV than their last solo one, Battleground. Outside of a couple of snoozers, the event as a whole was pretty good.

I had thought about the slight possibility of Sami getting involved after Shane brushed him off on SD, but in the end, figured that would be a great idea so naturally, it wouldn't happen. Glad they did it.

slik 10-08-2017 11:59 PM

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Triple A 10-09-2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5024983)
Hey boys, should I watch this show? The main is already spoiled for me but whatever... I'm gonna watch that regardless, but should I go for the undercard too?

Just watch the 2 hell in a cell matches

Every other match was bad or very basic and skippable imo

slik 10-09-2017 12:04 AM

WWE has had 3 memorable "B" shows now since summer:

Great Balls Of Fire
No Mercy
Hell In A Cell


TLC looks like it will be good

Destor 10-09-2017 12:08 AM

For a show that commanded about 35% of my attention i enjoyed it

slik 10-09-2017 12:17 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/l378ok...ms2A/giphy.gif

Lock Jaw 10-09-2017 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5024983)
Hey boys, should I watch this show? The main is already spoiled for me but whatever... I'm gonna watch that regardless, but should I go for the undercard too?

I enjoyed tag team HiaC, and the women........

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2017 12:54 AM

I wish I had posted this, because no one is going to believe me, but I half-anticipated the Sami Zayn heel turn, lol. I figured "it kind of doesn't make sense for Sami Zayn to not be here," but it also didn't make sense for him to help Shane. I'm "surprised" they actually did it though.

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2017 12:55 AM

Zayn will get to speak now and he will be great as the spoiled indy talent that hasn't had the main roster career he envisioned for himself.

Jordan 10-09-2017 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5024986)
Just watch the 2 hell in a cell matches

Every other match was bad or very basic and skippable imo

Oh damn I just watched the main event. Wow, really good. What a bump and what a save by Sami. Great main event on a PPV for sure, probably Shane's best match aside from WM with AJ and KOTR with Kurt, as far as I can remember. I bet a Shane/Brock program would still be pretty good after all.

Jordan 10-09-2017 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 5024992)

Hahaha

Jordan 10-09-2017 12:59 AM

It's funny that Shane is bigger than most of the guys on the roster.

Jordan 10-09-2017 12:59 AM

That bump was really sick. That's gonna be the one I remember. That bump was up there with Foley.

Jordan 10-09-2017 01:00 AM

I'm gonna watch the whole show. Pretty sure Nakamura won't win the title because nobody is jizzing all over about it.

Jordan 10-09-2017 01:01 AM

Pretty cool rock opening theme song. what did Flo Rida up his price?

Jordan 10-09-2017 01:03 AM

Good for New Day, just on the whole gimmick getting so over for so long, it's pretty cool.

Jordan 10-09-2017 01:12 AM

LOL "IT HAS BEGUN"

Jordan 10-09-2017 01:25 AM

This kendo stick shit is fucking stupid.

Tom Guycott 10-09-2017 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 5024445)
Shelton's mom should return and turn heel on Mojo

You know I had to go to the Google machine, because I thought Thea Vidale had died?

Tom Guycott 10-09-2017 01:52 AM

Seems like it would have been better karmically if this happened to Sheamus instead...

slik 10-09-2017 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5025028)
You know I had to go to the Google machine, because I thought Thea Vidale had died?

I remember her ABC sitcom!

slik 10-09-2017 02:11 AM

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slik 10-09-2017 02:14 AM

First sitcom to star an African American stand-up female comedian ^

slik 10-09-2017 02:14 AM

Damn, she is not TV-PG!


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Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2017 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5025029)
Seems like it would have been better karmically if this happened to Sheamus instead...

You'd think that, but I actually think that might help Cesaro's career. If that's a trade-off he's happy making, haha.

Jordan 10-09-2017 02:25 AM

US Title match wasn't bad.

Tom Guycott 10-09-2017 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 5025032)
I remember her ABC sitcom!

I vaugely did, too. I remembered enough that she had one. And she was on Comic View for a bit as a co-host of sorts.

But I guess her dying was one of those internet hoax things. Or I confused her with someone else. Either way, it was a bit after the whole "Shelton's mom" thing was over that I somehow was under the impression she was no longer amongst the living.

Fignuts 10-09-2017 05:16 AM

I'm not sure this is a heel turn for Zayn. Could be the start of one, but I think this is more a case of "As much as I hate Kevin Owens now, we were still best friends our whole lives, and I don't want to see him die."

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2017 05:32 AM

I definitely assumed that this would be a heel turn, but if they did something slow, where they pretended they were not actually in cahoots, but always seemed to "help" each other, it could certainly be interesting storytelling.

Probably just better to have Zayn out-and-out heel though.

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 05:52 AM

Nakamura beat Orton and Cena so they could build him up to lose clean to Jinder Mahal.

Fignuts 10-09-2017 05:52 AM

Feel like his facial expressions back up my theory. He didn't look super confident in what he was doing. Looked desperate and reluctant.

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 05:53 AM

Just gonna post that once in a while until it sinks in how quickly they've fucked him up.

Also to temper everyone's expectations for Asuka on the main roster.

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2017 06:07 AM

Yeah, I'm nervous for Asuka. Like, do people expect her to be booked...consistently? I dunno. And how many times can you see Asuka vs. Emma before that gets boring?

Mr. Nerfect 10-09-2017 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5025056)
Nakamura beat Orton and Cena so they could build him up to lose clean to Jinder Mahal.

Sarcastic CyNoid Mode: But now the casual fan knows that Nakamura can beat Cena and Orton. That Jinder Mahal can beat Nakamura just means that Mahal > Nakamura > Orton/Cena. It's great storytelling, and no amount of losses will ever be able to take away from what Nakamura has already achieved in the WWE.

In fact, they could probably have Nakamura lose to more people and make lots of stars. They can always just rebuild Nakamura by saying "He's beaten both John Cena and Randy Orton." That means more than the WWE Title ever could.

Big Vic 10-09-2017 08:22 AM

But Orton beat Jinder on a random SDL match.

Destor 10-09-2017 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5025056)
Nakamura beat Orton and Cena so they could build him up to lose clean to Jinder Mahal.

Not sure what's wrong about that. You build a challenger up no matter the blow off. Should champions only beat opponents that lack credibility?

Evil Vito 10-09-2017 09:08 AM

The only thing stopping me from assuming the Jinder as WWE champion experiment is going to carry on til WM is the fact that Lesnar's clearly gonna hold the Universal Title until then as well and I'm not sure they'll go that long without switching one of the belts.

Gerard 10-09-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 5025035)
Damn, she is not TV-PG!


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Just as well most tv shows are in widescreen these days.

slik 10-09-2017 09:54 AM

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slik 10-09-2017 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5025081)
The only thing stopping me from assuming the Jinder as WWE champion experiment is going to carry on til WM is the fact that Lesnar's clearly gonna hold the Universal Title until then as well and I'm not sure they'll go that long without switching one of the belts.

A former WWE writer I follow on Twitter has indicated he has heard Jinder is keeping the belt to WM, same for Brock.

Evil Vito 10-09-2017 09:59 AM

Welp, there goes any interest I had in the next 6 months of programming.

slik 10-09-2017 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5025100)
Welp, there goes any interest I had in the next 6 months of programming.

WM34: The coronation of Roman beating Brock and Cena beating Jinder :lol::'(:shifty::eek::yes::nono::fu::wave:

Anybody Thrilla 10-09-2017 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5025057)
Feel like his facial expressions back up my theory. He didn't look super confident in what he was doing. Looked desperate and reluctant.

I'd almost be with you if he didn't make it a point to throw KO on top of Shane for the cover.

Simple Fan 10-09-2017 11:24 AM

I thought it was a pretty good show. Tag team cell match was great and the main event was fine for what it was. I really liked Jinder vs Nakamura match and actually enjoy Mahal in the ring. He's smart and powerful which is all he needs to be. If only he had not been rushed to the title scene I'd be fine with him. Just don't think WWE has used Shinsuke right in my opinion, talking with that mouth piece is stupid. Don't agree with the US Championship changing hands but I'd imagine AJ will have it back soon.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-09-2017 11:27 AM

WWE has gone out of their way to make Shinsuke just another guy, probably not on purpose though lol

Big Vic 10-09-2017 11:31 AM

I'd like to see Big E take the title off Jinder.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-09-2017 11:50 AM

They have no idea what they have with Big E. Guy is a fucking star.

Evil Vito 10-09-2017 11:59 AM

Was nice of them to claim a sellout crowd despite showing a half empty arena.

https://i.imgur.com/QB0uPQi.jpg

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5025078)
Not sure what's wrong about that. You build a challenger up no matter the blow off. Should champions only beat opponents that lack credibility?

The problem is that he's Nakamura... and he's losing clean to Jinder Mahal.

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5025127)
WWE has gone out of their way to make Shinsuke just another guy, probably not on purpose though lol

It's insane how quickly and effectively they managed to kill the guy's aura.

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 12:06 PM

One year ago, saying "Nakamura will be on the main roster in a year jobbing clean to Jinder Mahal" would just be something crazy you say to exaggerate how badly WWE ruins everything.

Big Vic 10-09-2017 12:08 PM

Jinder was totally off television until it came to having backstage skits with Rusev.

Lock Jaw 10-09-2017 12:16 PM

Trying to think of who Jinder Mahal's next opponent will be..... Is he just gonna fight Nakamura again? Feud feels kind of "done" and "lost" by Nakamura.

I would have suggested Sami Zayn as his next opponent, but I guess that isn't going to happen now.

AJ Styles is probably going to be involved with Corbin and the US Title for another month or two.

Bobby Roode seems like he is still going to involved with Ziggler for at least another match.

Randy Orton just came off a long never-ending feud with Jinder.....

Who is left?

Big Vic 10-09-2017 12:20 PM

Big E.

Destor 10-09-2017 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5025137)
The problem is that he's Nakamura... and he's losing clean to Jinder Mahal.

I dont follow

Destor 10-09-2017 12:22 PM

Ohhhhhh. You're saing Nakamura matters...ok. Well he doesnt.

Big Vic 10-09-2017 12:23 PM

Shane is the Top babyface maybe he will challenge Jinder.

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 12:23 PM

Destor in SUPER CONTROVERSIAL MODE, guys.

Anybody Thrilla 10-09-2017 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5025132)
They have no idea what they have with Big E. Guy is a fucking star.

They did put the NXT title on him, so they probably realize SOMETHING.

Destor 10-09-2017 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5025149)
Destor in SUPER CONTROVERSIAL MODE, guys.

SKINSKE IS THE NEW HULK HOGAN HE ShOULLD NEVER JOB

Jordan 10-09-2017 12:43 PM

Big E. should be crowned champ by slaughtering Jinder at WM. Big E. is THE MAN.

#1-norm-fan 10-09-2017 12:45 PM

Where's Noid to call a strawman when you need him, Goddammit.

He has way more patience with that shit than I do.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-09-2017 12:46 PM

Just got done with Usos V New Day. Good god, that might be my favourite HIAC where they don't leave. It was brutal and uncomfortable in spots and that Woods fighting spirit near the end was fantastic. That fucking headbutt.

Destor 10-09-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5025156)
Just got done with Usos V New Day. Good god, that might be my favourite HIAC where they don't leave. It was brutal and uncomfortable in spots and that Woods fighting spirit near the end was fantastic. That fucking headbutt.

Match of the night imo. Jinder/Shinske @no.2

Lock Jaw 10-09-2017 12:55 PM

Member when Big E did have a big singles push in WWE too and was either IC or US Champion?

And everyone here was all "Uggh Big E Langston sucks"

#BROKEN Hasney 10-09-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5025158)
Match of the night imo. Jinder/Shinske @no.2

Not worked my way through yet, just got done with that. But I assumed it was since nothing was going to top that.

I'm glad Xavier has had more of a chance to shine recently. He's a decent wrestler and athlete, not the best in the world, but he's fantastic at adding those little details that can elevate a spot to something memorable with just the right facial or reaction. The desperation handcuffed save where he just collapses on top of Big E, getting in the face of the trapped Uso behind bamboo. Just little things that can elevate a moment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5025159)
Member when Big E did have a big singles push in WWE too and was either IC or US Champion?

And everyone here was all "Uggh Big E Langston sucks"

Because he had no character. People would be much more on board now.

Sepholio 10-09-2017 01:09 PM

I fully support Big E being champion. He has the looks, the charisma and the talent.

I have this theory that Jinder being champion is WWE trying to make sure everyone "knows" RAW is the superior brand. I remember all the talk about Smackdown being the A show over RAW so I assume that is a common sentiment in the IWC. At the time, Jinder was on RAW, nobody liked him, and he was jobbing like Jinder does. Then suddenly he gets traded to Smackdown and wins the title within a few weeks and becomes unstoppable. The simple breakdown ends up being RAW jobber is better than everyone on Smackdown, RAW is clearly the superior product!

Obviously it had something to do with them trying to push into the Indian market as well, but I honestly think a lot of it was to make Smackdown look weaker than RAW.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-09-2017 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5025155)
Where's Noid to call a strawman when you need him, Goddammit.

He has way more patience with that shit than I do.

He prefers being referred to as his moniker, Braun Strawman.

Jordan 10-09-2017 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5025156)
Just got done with Usos V New Day. Good god, that might be my favourite HIAC where they don't leave. It was brutal and uncomfortable in spots and that Woods fighting spirit near the end was fantastic. That fucking headbutt.

Dang I totally disagree... I watched this show very late last night but since that match was first I wasn't very tired and was "into it". I just thought that match was to Shane/Owens as a slap is to a knock out punch. Grown ass men fighting with thin bamboo sheets taped together....:n::n: But they did do some good work in the match, however the whole concept of most of the match the worked totally stretched my suspension of disbelief.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-09-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5025159)
Member when Big E did have a big singles push in WWE too and was either IC or US Champion?

And everyone here was all "Uggh Big E Langston sucks"

Yeah he was still pretty green and bland at that point. Totally different guy now. Would have to re jig his fun explosiveness into a singles style.

Ruien 10-09-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5025128)
I'd like to see Big E take the title off Jinder.

I want Heath Slater to do it.

Sepholio 10-09-2017 01:16 PM

Nah dude, give it to Big E and then have 3MB reunite to take on New Day over the tag titles and world title.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-09-2017 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5025168)
Dang I totally disagree... I watched this show very late last night but since that match was first I wasn't very tired and was "into it". I just thought that match was to Shane/Owens as a slap is to a knock out punch. Grown ass men fighting with thin bamboo sheets taped together....:n::n: But they did do some good work in the match, however the whole concept of most of the match the worked totally stretched my suspension of disbelief.

Legit want you to take some of the shots Xavier did. I have and there's some give and flex which makes it "safe" in terms of serious injury, but it's still like being whipped with a belt. Probably hurt more than most of the other shit they did in the match bar that suicide dive doomsday. Not sure if it was supposed to be to the left a little to hit the chain, but it looked like Big E went head first into something more solid.

Also, they should have never replayed the thrown chair so I could pretend it was Sabu.

Lock Jaw 10-09-2017 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5025169)
Yeah he was still pretty green and bland at that point. Totally different guy now. Would have to re jig his fun explosiveness into a singles style.

Member the last big "explosive power wrestler" in a three man team who people wanted to see break out into a big singles star?


Actually worked out pretty well for him.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-09-2017 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5025174)
Member the last big "explosive power wrestler" in a three man team who people wanted to see break out into a big singles star?


Actually worked out pretty well for him.

And Big E could probably even pick up the Undertaker if he wanted!

Gerard 10-09-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5025135)
Was nice of them to claim a sellout crowd despite showing a half empty arena.

https://i.imgur.com/QB0uPQi.jpg

WWE are experts at selling out arenas and making attendance records that couldn't physically fit into the building!

Evil Vito 10-09-2017 01:38 PM

I really hope they aren't making Survivor Series a Raw vs. SmackDown themed event again, or at least not a main event that necessitates putting all programs on hold so that everybody can fight in brand-colored T-shirts.

SmackDown's would depend on where they go from here with the story but Owens and Zayn heading up the heel team would make sense with guys like Styles and Orton available for the face side. I think they could come up with something compelling.

Raw's could be something like Braun, Miz, Wyatt, Sheamus, and Cesaro vs. Joe, Balor, and The Shield

I'd much rather that than see a mishmash of those guys on the same team because "brand pride".

Anybody Thrilla 10-09-2017 02:03 PM

If you didn't dig that tag match last night, wrestling just may not be for you.

Evil Vito 10-09-2017 02:08 PM

Usos and New Day have been killing it for months. Feel like the feud will continue to Survivor Series as well since there was another title change and they're not exactly trying to build up any other team on the blue brand.

Thought the Usos were the most boring thing ever until their heel turn, and they've just been amazing for the better part of a year now.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-09-2017 02:11 PM

https://i.redd.it/29uqfxtt4tqz.jpg

Jesus at how close that was.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-09-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5025174)
Member the last big "explosive power wrestler" in a three man team who people wanted to see break out into a big singles star?


Actually worked out pretty well for him.

Big E is way more fun and better on the mic with more connection w the audience while being nowhere as protected as Roman. Youre just being a hater.


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