Favre is still deciding, and frankly I'm happy. This will force Thompson to REALLY go for Woodson. And also, I want him to take his time and make the correct choice.

This press conference happens every year in Mississippi for his charity/foundation thing, and this year the media just blew it up into a "Will he retire or not?" conference. Every little time the man speaks people are going nuts thinking he will decide.

And then you have those (non Packer) fans saying how he's holding team hostage, you hate how he's drawing it out, etc.....if you aren't a Packer fan what do you care? If someone like McNabb wouldn't really have any feelings towards it.

Because we constantly have to hear about it. I was a Favre fan before and was interested to see what he'd do, but I honestly couldn't give a shit now

:rofl:

Today's Sportscenter said "Favre makes the decision that Packers fans have been waiting to hear" and then said that he is still undecided what the heck

It was just a big hype thing they did. I was 80% sure he wasn't going to have a decision. The conference was about his foundation though anyways, so there was another reason I wasn't expecting to hear much.

Packers | Favre told Thompson he was retiring
Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:59:41 -0700

ESPN's Ed Werder reports at one point last week, Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre felt he was being pressured into an answer by the team about his future so he told general manager Ted Thompson he was retiring. Thompson then told Favre to take a step back and spend more time making his decision.

10. Arizona Cardinals – Vince Young, QB, Texas. It's hard to imagine Young falling this far, but there seems to be only a lukewarm buzz around him since his pro day and personal workouts began. The theory – once again revived since his pro day – is that Young is going to be a guy who needs to sit a year (or maybe two) before taking over a starting job. Some things to consider about Arizona: Dennis Green has worked with guys who have similar styles to Young in Randall Cunningham and Daunte Culpepper, and Cardinals quarterback coach (Mike Kruczek) was the guy who helped develop Culpepper when he was the head coach at Central Florida.

:( I wish

Just saw this now - haha how can you even say that? You are a Colts fan...

Because the Colts' superbowl is Colts/Patriots. They don't need a ring. Remember last year? Nobody ever expected Manning to actually do anything in the playoffs.

Do you know anything about the media? They were tipped off by a Packers aide that the decision would come at the press conference, and even if they were not tipped off it would be their job to go there. The whole point of media is getting the scoop, and if a superstar is in the news comtemplating retirement, you damn well don't miss a press conference he is holding.

That being said, he will be back. You don't make this much of a deal if you aren't, he just wants to stir the Packers up so that they really do try to win when he comes back. Charlie Walters, the guy for the St. Paul Pioneer Press who just pulls shit out of his ass, said that Favre was considering Minnesota. Sorry Charlie, but no. I would love it, but that is just too retarded.

Manning beat the Patriots one time!!! WOO!!!!!!!!!

Manning has 3 wins the playoffs, Brady has 3 rings.

But the Colts are 'better' now, yet they both lost in the 2nd round this year.

The Colts are better now. Hate to break that to you. I mean i recognize your teams " 3 rings " , but please dont tell me the Patriots are a better team then the Colts right now.

BTW why is it when you talk shit about the Colts. The only person you can talk shit about is Manning. As if its Manning vs the Patriots. We get it. Manning chokes, but like i said. The Colts are better then the Patriots . They were better last year and they still are better. So all your Manning chokes bs is fine . Just dont forget who the better team is.

And i know. You're gunna tell us all about the " 3 rings " and how great they once were. Save it. We've all heard about it the past couple of years and now its time to let that go. Its in the books. Dont use the past to make some stupid argument about how the Patriots are better then the Colts right now. Actually go ahead. Amuse me.

Honestly. I dont think the Patriots are the best team in the AFC east. I think Miami is better and i think the Patriots will be battling for a Wild Card this year. Probably wont even get it either.

I don't think the Patriots have the "better team", aside from a few key players (IE: Brady, of course), but nothing would do me any more good than to see them completely demolish the Colts. And that's what I'm hoping for, personally. (Nothing against the Colts as a TEAM, but anything with a Peyton (not Eli. I like Eli.) Manning win completely turns my stomach.)

But I'm with RP about the whole Miami thing. I have a feeling that the fins will be back with a vengeance this year. Or so I'm hoping.

I think the Patriots still have a good team. Their defense is still good they will probably be in a lot of low scoring games, and they can plug in their holes in the draft.

Since the Colts won last, then yeah I guess you could call them the better team. We'll see what happens this season though, a lot of people think the Patriots lost a ton of important guys but I dunno, outside of that piece of shit kicker then signed I don't think its as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Colts just lost one of the best running backs in the NFL, plus a starting linebacker and defensive tackle. No way the Colts are better this year than last, last year was their best shot to win it all and they blew it. I'd be extremely surprised if the Colts ever win the Superbowl. The only person everyone talks shit about is Manning because anytime the Colts do good the only person anyone talks about is Manning, it goes both ways. Unless it's Manning himself, when the Colts lose he blames it on his offensive line.

Maybe thats because the offensive line sucked.

It was better than the Patriots offensive line, though!

Or maybe because the entire offense sucked and got out played by the Steelers Defense, it wasn't just the offensive line that sucked. Manning sucked too, he got the luckiest break ever after somehow his pass right to Troy Palamaluo got overturned and they still didn't win. Not dumping it off to Dallas Clark and throwing to the endzone instead on the final drive was the O-Line's fault though, not his.

What the hell are you talking about. You keep saying shit about dumping passes off, but you've never sat back and had to make pin point passes while being blitzed by the Steelers every play. Our offensive line is one of the best in the league and they couldnt block worth a damn. It's not like Manning could sit back and look at every recievers situation and make a decision. He had to decide what to do the moment the ball was snapped . He had time to make one read and that was about it. Thats protection problems.

And please excuse Manning and anyone else who gets a lucky break from the officials, if they cant convert it into a win. I mean not everyone can be as fortunate as the Patriots.

I'm just saying that had so many opportunities to win that game with the best team they will ever have and they didnt. Stuff like that horrible INT call and the fumble by Bettis when the game should have been over, last year was the Colts best shot to win it. I just think its funny to see the loss blamed on the offensiveline, nobody was prasing the O-line when they were winng all these games. I'd be really surprised to see them ever win it now, not saying it is impossible but I'd be really surprised. As for the Dolphins taking over the AFC East that is a fair predicition but I don't think it'll happen. Just because they got a new QB I don't think it will automatically result in an unreal season or something.

yeah stupid offensive line that gave up less sacks than every other team in the league

I bet the Colts could win it all if they fired Dungy and brought in Jon Gruden as head coach. :lol:

I stated pretty clearly they were one of the best all season. And give credit were its due. The Steelers defense was damn near perfect. I'm just saying that its pretty easy for one of us to say he should pass here or there when the Steelers are blitzing almost ever play. Manning had a bad day and the O-line couldnt block anyone. Edge missed some blitz pickups. It wasnt just Manning.

Well lets look at the roster. They lost Edge, but running backs are very replaceable. I dont see a huge problem there. They will probably get a decent Rb in the draft. They're bringing 3 all pros back on defense and two on offense. Reggie Wayne will be nuts this year. We got the clutchest kicker ever. We lost only two free agents. Triplet and Thorton. Triplet is very replacable at DT. He was subbed in and out in the first place. Thorton can be replace in the draft.

I think Indianapolis on paper is the best team in the league this year. Whether that translates into a SB we dont know. I'm not as optomistic as i've been in the past.

Using that logic the Steelers will destroy everybody this year. All they lost was a slot receiver and a mediocre safety.

How can you say Edge will be easily replaced? Can't exactly depend on a rookie running back, they aren't used to the wear and tear of an NFL season, look at Cadallic Willaims, he like fell off the face of the earth towards the end of the season haha. Rhodes might be able to step up but losing Edge is going to hurt the Colts a lot I think.

The Broncos, the Jaguars and the Bengals didn't lose anyone who isn't replaceable either.

Picked a pretty fucking important time to have a bad day, wouldn't you agree?

When superstars step up and play their best when the season is on the line... what does Manning do?

chokes

Will they just have the draft already? haha fuck

ESPN did something so ESPN like yesterday. They had a 2 hour Draft Preview and all they talked about was Matt Lienart, Reggie Bush ( for atleast half the show ) and T.O ( ofcourse, because we cant have a 2 hour draft preview show without a 15-20 minute segment of T.O. )

I really hate ESPN. I dont even watch it anymore unless the Pacers are playing, Poker is on, or there is a great baseball game on.

I watch NFL Network for my football news.

I would have really like to of heard some mock draft scenarios or maybe some info on the deep defensive back position. Possibly some more info on the other Rb's in the draft like Williams, White, Addai, Marhoney, or maybe even some info about Carpenter the LB or the other LB from Iowa ( Greenwood i think ).

If you're gunna have a draft preview then have a friggin draft preview. Teams like the Pats, Colts, Steeler and Seahawks wanna know what there team might be thinking about going with.

Think I posted this before but <a href="http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html">this</a> is a pretty good mock draft site. Not sure if I agree with some of his reasoning but hey. There's a few DBs on there now that weren't a few weeks ago, so it definitely seems to be pretty deep this year.

Yeah I watched most of that draft thingtoo and it was awful. Brad Smith for Heisman.

I didn't mind the TO coverage cuz im a cowboys fan of course. But I agree with you guys , they shoulda gone more in depth at each position...maybe done a mock draft with each person taking a turn.

They got the Patriots getting another CB? I dunno about all that, I think they need help at other positions over that. Plus, theres value at CB in the later rounds, I am really hoping the Patriots pick up DeAngelo Willaims from Memphis

Just a question.

How would Patriots fans feel if Vinny kicks a game winning field goal against the Pats in Gillette Stadium?

lol why would you even ask a question like that? The answer is pretty obvious

ESPN is the gayest site ever. All the good shit is insider stuff. You cant even read a mock draft, ridiculous

Tamba Hali drops to 40? :|

Lendale White has a torn hammy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2407977

That explains a lot.

Oh btw I think he drops to the second round. Even though he has an injury, it says it would only sideline him for a month. I mean hey, the Bills took Willis McGahee and his injury was a lot worse. I don't think that taking White would be that big of a risk, as long as you let him heal up and don't rush things. You know he can play, you're just not getting some of the things which I think are arbitrary in the grand scheme of things (40 time, bench press etc.)

"There is no way the Colts would be in that position against the Pats in the playoffs"

??? :?:

No, if that actually happen it'd obviously suck

It won't happen though :cool:

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/ph...1314_lower.jpg
Ben "I'm faster than your favorite widereciever and I play tight end" Watson, Rosevelt Colvin and Daniel Grahm at water country hahah

I will admit, I am a Benjamin Watson fan.

Dolphins sign Harrington.

http://tsn.ca/nfl/news_story.asp?ID=163276&hubName=nfl

Half a Daunte Culpepper, 100% of a Joey Harrington, AJ Feeley and Sage Rosenfels...

lolz, the Dolphins won't win until like week 8 when Pep is back.

Arrington signs a 7 year 49 million dollar contract with the Giants

Being that he is coming off of injuries and whatever issues he had in Washington, I'm glad his deal is incentive laden rather than mostly guaranteed money.

<font color=goldenrod>Emmons-Pierce-Arrington</font>

:drool:

I know man, injury free and imagine the possibilities. :eek:

I would go so far as to wager that our D could be top 5.

Injury, injury, injury

Not really worried about Arrington getting injuries, even if it happens his deal is mostly incentive driven. I've honestly never expected Emmons to play a full season but Pierce will be back full strength.

Colts resigned Cato June to a one year deal for only 1.57 mil...Damn seems pretty cheap for a guy as good as June.

Favre is coming back. I splooged like 6 times when I heard it last night.

That's only 24 less than the number of INTs he'll throw this year.

No way man, we actually have receivers this year.

Like 15 of those picks last year were due to tipped passes or young receivers running wrong routes

But nonetheless, he did throw 29 picks

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch...6/2006&id=5329

Packers sign Woodson, 7 years 52 mill

Colts might be looking to trade for Thomas Jones from the Bears.

I think that would work out well for them.

Onterrio Smith is available

Nah isn't he suspended? Or maybe you were joking? :D

are ya gay

He was dropped by the Vikings recently

It is confirmed, the Texans HAVE SIGNED MARIO WILLIAMS

I will kill myself if the Packers don't trade up to #2 to take Bush

I don't see the Saints using the No. 2 pick, but I have no idea who will trade for it

I'm reading that the Jets/Raiders/Packers are potentially going after the 2 pick

Reggie in the Oak would be pimp.

wow can't believe the Texans are using the first overall pick on a defensive end that got sacks in 11 out of 27 college games.

I believe Walker did some med testing with New Orleans. Could the Packers #1 and Walker be part of a package for the #2 pick?

Bush as a Packer would be sweet. Still like the idea of drafting Hawk, or if he falls Ferguson, as well.

No,no it wouldnt

Mario is the real deal.

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Giants sign Jai Lewis of George Mason basketball fame

Hasn't played football since HS...but there's no loss if he's cut. I wouldn't mind trying him out as a #3 TE. He's 6'7", could anyone possibly stop him on a fade to the end zone?</font>

6'7" 270+ with ball skills... I'd put my money on Lewis if he and Gates ever got in a fight.

Jeff Nelson from UConn signed wit the Rams as well.

Everyone is looking for the next Gates, dunno if there ever will be one though.

Yea, jus cuz you can play b-ball doesn't mean you can easily make a transition. There's instincts, blocks, learning offense,defenses...Gates just happens to be the fuckin man.

Gates was the first in the mold. There will be other Gates... in fact, there will be people better than Gates. Because he set the standard. Eventually, there will be a seven footer at TE. Unblockable. Until his knees get shredded after one season. :nono:

LOL could you imagine though? Looking back at the NBA, like, imagine KG at receiver? I bet he had some nice straight-line speed and agility, since he's run point before. He has hands of glue, as he has caught people's shots in mid-air. And you put him against a 5'10" 190 pound cornerback... :lol:

Something like that will happen. And I will be so happy.

Rams signed Denzel Washington's son..

Yao Ming at fullback, blocking for David Carr

I'd have to disagree. I don't think there will ever be another TE coming out of the Gates mold. I think it was kind of a fluke thing. Maybe if a guy played both football and basketball at like a small college then maybe. I just don't see any of these other guys coming up and being a real succesful football player. I'd rather take an average WR, have him put on some weight and become a TE (USC is currently doing that with Fred Davis, moved him to TE as soon as he got into camp after being a WR in high school and it is working wonders)

I don't see it being a bad decision to go after basketball players. They are athletic enough and if they have the hands, they have more upside than most WR's in the draft.

But Gates really was the first. I mean Gonzo is a baller, too. You have to think... being tall isn't that hard... and the rest can be learned. What Gates has... it's not as hard as a lot of other positions, I would imagine. Especially since in the last 10 years, the TE position has just exploded. The pass-catching tight end is becoming an every-team occurrance. The number that have made the pro bowl the past several years, we had chamberlain in MN, franks in GB, now there's Wiggins in MN... Sharpe, Gates, Eric Johnson, Putzier, Gonzo, Dallas Clark, Marcus Pollard, Watson, Graham, Coates, Walls, McMichael, Witten, Crumpler, K2, Jolley... like, Jolley got traded for a 1st rounder and he went on to suck. Johnson I think made a pro bowl and now Vernon Davis gets drafted to replace him? Chamberlain made the pro bowl and hasn't played since...

The TE position is overrated.

Yeah but he Tony Gonzalez played D1 Football and D1 basketball. He wasn't just a basketball player.

There will definately be another Gates soon. It will just have to come on a team where the WRs are so bad that the TE is the preferred receiver like KCand SD

<font color=white>What's the deal with the Saints drafting Reggie Bush? What about Deuce? Is he gonna stick around?</font>

That's why I said Gates was really the first of his kind. So you can't say there won't be another Gates... because there has only been one.

That's like saying there will never be another Bronko Nagursky. I mean, how do we even know? The RB position has evolved light years since then; Just like the TE position is evolving every year, because of Gates.

Reggie Bush played along a running back like Deuce Mccallister when he was at USC and he did pretty well there

<font color=white>But aren't they both on big contracts? And I'm guessing one of 'em is gonna be disappointed about their playing time being as they are both good enough to be 1st choice (just an englishman here, don't go too rough)</font>

No that's a perfectly valid opinion.

However, there is method to this madness:

Rookies generally can't handle a full workload in their first season. They need to be eased into it, or they will crash like the Cadillac did last year. Ronnie Brown kept getting better because he shared the workload with Ricky Williams. Cedric Benson just LOL. I think he's dead.

Anyway, on the other end of the spectrum... you have a major injury like Deuce had, you want to ease in as well. So basically they have 75% of Reggie Bush and 75% of Deuce McAlister, that gives them a good 1-2 punch. By the end of the season, one of the two will be at 100% and will be ready to start next season. THEN, the trade talks can begin. Maybe even if Deuce blows up in the early season, we could see a trade by week 6. But since they're both not ready for the full workload, they'll work for the job. Or they'll keep both players, since Miami did it and plans on keeping Ricky.

All I know is, ROFL at Michael Bennett. :foc: you picked the wrong team to sign with bro.

Hasn't Deuce had like 2 major injuries in the last 3 years? He can't have much left now.

His first one wasn't horrible I don't think? He came back after a few games... as a HB, you'll miss a few games now and then, and you can destroy your leg and come back for several more years, like J Lewis and Edge James.

Yeah I just looked around and he had a high ankle sprain that apparently just wouldn't go away.

He picked up a few minor shoulder and knee ones in college as well, from what I can see. Dunno, I'm probably exaggerating, but they're surely tempting fate by having him *and* Bennett around.

I didn't mean another TE like Gates, they're will be plenty of players with a similiar style. I highly doubt there will ever be another player to come out of college basketball though. Really can't see another non-college football playing basketball player coming into the NFL and dominating like Gates is.

Well shit, LOL, any power forward in college is being picked up to try out at TE. Throw enough shit at the wall, eventually it will stick.

So who does everyone see as contenders for next year?

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possibly the Cards