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Extreme Angle 11-08-2012 04:48 PM

Yup, full of noobs right now... I fucking slay.

Emperor Smeat 11-08-2012 05:16 PM

Microsoft and 343 Studios backed down from their earlier promise of making sexism harassment an automatic case for permanent bannings.

Microsoft got around the issue by saying its always been against their terms of service and people can still be banned but it won't be a top priority compared to other things that generate bans.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/halo...xism-xbox-live

Kalyx triaD 11-08-2012 05:20 PM

Doesn't sound like 343 is backing as this is a case of Microsoft saying "Hold on, assholes pay money, too."

El Fangel 11-09-2012 09:54 AM

Was so frustrated by it I was ready to return it and get BlOps. Then Requiem told me about the fishstick layout and I went on a 6 kill streak with the scattershot.

Still awful but improving.

Only complaint is the weapon respawn times and the difficulty with the sniper zoom due to my layout. Otherwise fun as I imagined.

Kalyx triaD 11-09-2012 01:47 PM

Dude don't even worry about weapon respawns that shit is damn near random. Focus on your loadout and ordinance streaks. Adjust for what you get on your choices and put yourself in a position to use one of them.

El Fangel 11-09-2012 02:25 PM

Do you get access to more weapons as time goes on? How do you determine ordinance streaks? Are they random?

Is it just me or is the assault rifle all but useless and lastly, can you get a sniper rifle for your loadout?

Kalyx triaD 11-09-2012 02:32 PM

No power weapons for loadouts, just ordinance drops, which are partially random depending on the map. Your 'roll' will become familiar on certain maps. AR is actually the best it's been since Halo 1. You can't determine your streak options but there is a perk that let's you re-roll down the line.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 05:54 AM

Bored with this already.

Having 7 primary weapons to choose from really has hindered my enjoyment. Feels like I choose between the Battle Rifle, Battle Rifle, Battle Rifle or Battle Rifle. Don't really find any other weapons that much fun and the few times I manage to get a shotgun or sniper during a match is far outweighed by the fact I cannot actually set either as a primary.

Probably going to put this up on Kijiji for $60 and either get BlOps 2 or preorder GTA5.

Really not doing it for me, unless someone confirms you unlock more options later I don't see me keeping it. Which is sad since they have everything else right from what I can see.

That and the lack of dual wield.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-10-2012 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4027276)
Bored with this already.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NuTVQAco4l...ugging_man.jpg

THAT'S OUR FANGEL

El Fangel 11-10-2012 06:54 AM

The maps, respawn and flow of play is vastly superior to CoD but the variety in loadouts is severely lacking for me. Doesn't seem to matter what I use, I will always head towards whatever power weapon shows up because I know if I don't they will.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 06:59 AM

And I have never really been a Halo fan to be frank, just had a few people tell me multiplayer was good and I agree it is good though I don't think its for me.

From having a look, There seems to be such a lack of customization for loadouts.

7 primary, 3 secondary and 3 grenades. The abilities and such are what I suppose makes the loadouts but most are useless or uninteresting to me. The weapons are so static and vanilla as well it is really offputting. If you could combine CoDs weapon customization with the amazing multiplayer then I would be content with this.

Feel like I can't play any specific style at all with such limited choices.

Wehttam 11-10-2012 12:46 PM

lol you want to start with power weapons.

sounds like you bought halo and were hoping for call of duty. amazing

Requiem 11-10-2012 12:48 PM

You're treating it like every other typical shooter you've played. It's not.

It's actually far more streamlined and skill-based than your average Call of Duty game. Hearing someone complain about these features is lol because it's like.. "Dude, it's Halo. It's never even been -THIS- detailed." There didn't even used to BE loadouts like this. It was.. you start the game with assault rifle/pistol unless you're playing 'pro', in which case you might get a DMR or BR.

Halo is a game where everyone is kept on relatively the same level playing field. Everyone has the same weapons to choose from and the same opportunities to get better ones while playing. The weapons are distinctly different enough to be their own weapon and serve their own purpose, but similar enough so that no one weapon just completely outclasses all the others and gives an unfair advantage.

Armor abilities add a little variation to it, and.. once again, those didn't even exist until Halo: Reach. The perks and support abilities also didn't exist until this game.

Requiem 11-10-2012 12:54 PM

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JnG4D8WLnsY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is an example of why Halo is fantastic. It has such a fast paced style of gameplay, and is far more skill-based. Rather than just 'who can land the first shot', it's 'who can land all their shots faster and more precisely'. Getting Triple Kills and Overkills. Or when you get your first Killtacular. So much more of a feat than other games.

The thing I like about Halo is that I experience far fewer 'bullshit' deaths. It's usually something legit, like a lot of things just happening around me and maybe I didn't pay enough attention. There's less 'running behind a wall and still dying because of lag' deaths and those sorts of things. The game is just more technically sound than most other shooters.

Fignuts 11-10-2012 01:27 PM

Fallen Angel have you ever played any shooters besides COD?

Because before COD, Halo is what all shooters used to be like. In fact, that's kind of why I don't really play it. I played so much god damn Unreal Tournament, that to this day, I'm still burned out on that kind of gameplay.

Wehttam 11-10-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4027299)
Feel like I can't play any specific style at all with such limited choices.

aka i can't always snipe or have the shotgun.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4027467)
Fallen Angel have you ever played any shooters besides COD?

Because before COD, Halo is what all shooters used to be like. In fact, that's kind of why I don't really play it. I played so much god damn Unreal Tournament, that to this day, I'm still burned out on that kind of gameplay.

You hit the nail on the head.

Prior to CoD4, I had not played any FPS game online. I had figured out how to host huge LAN games of Doom, Doom 2, Quake, Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament in our high school comp lab but otherwise the only FPS I played was Medal of Honor at friends places and playing Halo 1 and 2 occasionally splitscreen at my cousins where he beat me savagely. I played the campaigns of both however and enjoyed them but never multiplayer online.

I think due to playing CoD exclusively and creating loadouts and styles for certain maps and moods it created a different view of shooters for me, inversely proportionate to what Unreal Tournament did to you.

And I think you gentlemen have me wrong, I think its an excellent game and am very impressed by it but the concept is so foreign to me now its difficult to get used to.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wehttam (Post 4027480)
aka i can't always snipe or have the shotgun.

Yes, thank you for clarifying my obviously vague post.

LoDownM 11-10-2012 01:56 PM

I actually wanna play this online, but lack the funds for a second non-modded 360, the game and xbox live...

Kalyx triaD 11-10-2012 01:57 PM

Wow. Good luck with Blops 2, then.

BTW, I'm online full time after a slight delay. Will be playing nightly so join or invite me whatever. I don't play Slayer Pro, though. Boring.

I have three loadouts that work for me;

All Around:
- BR
- Plasma Pistol
- Thruster
- Infinite Sprint
- Ammo

Killusion:
- Assault Rifle
- Pistol
- Hologram
- not important
- also not important

Lil Buddy:
- Suppressor
- Bolt Shot
- Sentry
- Quick AA Refill

Wehttam 11-10-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4027482)
Yes, thank you for clarifying my obviously vague post.

sorry that you were already going into the game hoping it was CoD and then 'get bored' of it the moment you realize it isn't. i'd figure since this game was called halo and not call of duty would be a hint that they may be quite different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4027481)

And I think you gentlemen have me wrong, I think its an excellent game and am very impressed by it but the concept is so foreign to me now its difficult to get used to.

lol

El Fangel 11-10-2012 02:08 PM

You guys seem to be quite interested in this and having peeps to play with is what I want. Might keep it I dunno.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wehttam (Post 4027492)
sorry that you were already going into the game hoping it was CoD and then 'get bored' of it the moment you realize it isn't. i'd figure since this game was called halo and not call of duty would be a hint that they may be quite different.

lol

Yeah. I wasn't expecting CoD but I miss dual wielding :(

Wehttam 11-10-2012 02:14 PM

there isn't much you could dual wield anyway. plasma pistol maybe? regular pistol is mad powerful, needler is a power weapon now it seems.

this is the best halo mp experiences i have had yet

El Fangel 11-10-2012 02:27 PM

Needler + Magnum was my go to.

Wehttam 11-10-2012 02:33 PM

but that would never happen in this game. or even last game. it was known that there wouldn't be dual wielding.

LoDownM 11-10-2012 02:34 PM

Was never a fan of dual wielding in Halo 2. Haven't missed it at all playing Reach or this in campaign/playing with friends in local games.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wehttam (Post 4027510)
but that would never happen in this game. or even last game. it was known that there wouldn't be dual wielding.

I haven't played any Halo since Halo 2 and didn't follow this until the last few pages when I was considering buying it. I suppose I like like a whiner and Ill agree I probably am when you all got what you expected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 4027511)
Was never a fan of dual wielding in Halo 2. Haven't missed it at all playing Reach or this in campaign/playing with friends in local games.

I only do because it added to the style you wanted. More often then not I ran either Dual Needlers or a Needler/Magnum combo and was content with that and a shotgun.

Also what happened to that brute weapon with the huge blade?

Kalyx triaD 11-10-2012 02:50 PM

My advice; don't follow games from the last few pages. All of your gripes are details well reported months ago. Don't make random buys, get to know a game well before you drop dollar. Save yourself the trouble.

And the Hammer is still in there.

LoDownM 11-10-2012 02:50 PM

The brutes are all dead/aren't part of the Covenant anymore. /shrug

El Fangel 11-10-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4027519)
My advice; don't follow games from the last few pages. All of your gripes are details well reported months ago. Don't make random buys, get to know a game well before you drop dollar. Save yourself the trouble.

And the Hammer is still in there.

1) Heard all good things
2) Wanted a new FPS
3) Not CoD

Brute Shot I think it was called.


Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 4027521)
The brutes are all dead/aren't part of the Covenant anymore. /shrug

:(

Emperor Smeat 11-10-2012 03:11 PM

Makes sense since their fate was doomed considering the Elites went on a revenge tour as payback against the Brutes for getting kicked out of the Covenant during Halo 3.

Kalyx triaD 11-10-2012 03:20 PM

Brute Shot is long gone, there's a new (better) weapon for that, unless you really liked the blade.

Halo is not about letting people start matches with instakill machines and letting everybody race to the bottom (which is tantamount to UMvC3). It's about finding the best weapon for the best situation (more along the lines SSF4, less touch of death and more thinking). Power weapons that 'drop' or come from ordinance turn the tide slightly, but you can't depend on having a sniper rifle from the jump.

What Halo 4 did was introduce loadouts while still respecting Halo's sandbox. It also has at least three versions to Halo's main metalgame; close range, uber-long range, and grenades. Extremes in the first three categories have to be earned through mad dashes (initial drops) and ordinance gain, other than that you have to maximize your role in those play styles.

Personally, I prefer this style to CoD. I won't go as far as to say that CoD is braindead, I simply find this more rewarding. As said there's less bullshit deaths and even bullshit wins. I feel like I used the sandbox to my advantage. If a player blasts me with a rocket launcher or snipes me; he did something to earn it beforehand. The game is played in between actual shots, if you get me.

But yeah you could also just be having adjustment issues. You shouldn't write Halo off after a few moments of play (I peeped your stats). Try to get a feel for the metagame, you may like it. Or not. Do as you please.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4027537)
Brute Shot is long gone, there's a new (better) weapon for that, unless you really liked the blade.

I DID.

Halo is not about letting people start matches with instakill machines and letting everybody race to the bottom (which is tantamount to UMvC3). It's about finding the best weapon for the best situation (more along the lines SSF4, less touch of death and more thinking). Power weapons that 'drop' or come from ordinance turn the tide slightly, but you can't depend on having a sniper rifle from the jump.

I DO. THAT IS THE ISSUE HAHA.

What Halo 4 did was introduce loadouts while still respecting Halo's sandbox. It also has at least three versions to Halo's main metalgame; close range, uber-long range, and grenades. Extremes in the first three categories have to be earned through mad dashes (initial drops) and ordinance gain, other than that you have to maximize your role in those play styles.

I WAS SCARED OF THE DROP AT FIRST SINCE IT EXPLODED.

Personally, I prefer this style to CoD. I won't go as far as to say that CoD is braindead, I simply find this more rewarding. As said there's less bullshit deaths and even bullshit wins. I feel like I used the sandbox to my advantage. If a player blasts me with a rocket launcher or snipes me; he did something to earn it beforehand. The game is played in between actual shots, if you get me.

YEP.

But yeah you could also just be having adjustment issues. You shouldn't write Halo off after a few moments of play (I peeped your stats). Try to get a feel for the metagame, you may like it. Or not. Do as you please.

I WOULD NOT PUT FAITH INTO THOSE STATS, I AM FAR FROM AWFUL BUT THOSE FIRST THREE OR FOUR MATCHES I WENT 5-96


Fryza 11-10-2012 05:04 PM

I'm really liking this game.

I get how the primary weapon choices are lacking, but in all honesty, starting the game with even a shotgun could be a gamebreaker, especially if everyone does. Or if everyone starts with shotty/sniper. No thank you.

The vehicles still bother me, but that's more of players getting in them and turning it into a NASCAR sim with special guest appearance by guns. But that's why Forge is there to turn of vehicle (and some weapon) spawns, so party.

I really like the scattershot though. Nice touch. Waiting to hit twenty-four (I think) for the Overkill perk (two primary weapons). Haven't touched the abilities, not my thing.

Game plays really well though.

Kalyx triaD 11-10-2012 05:46 PM

I have Overkill but I don't know... I like pistols. Just made an X-Ray Vision class and will be testing it out shortly. It's almost moot, though, since people forgot how to crouch walk to hide themselves, and this game has the best radar ever... well at least as far as Halo is concerned.

El Fangel 11-10-2012 06:04 PM

Wait...what? Crouch walk bypasses Radar?

alvarado52 11-10-2012 06:59 PM

Jesus Fangel really? That's been the case since Halo 2...maybe even the first (didn'toplay multi)

Wehttam 11-10-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4027604)
I have Overkill but I don't know... I like pistols. Just made an X-Ray Vision class and will be testing it out shortly. It's almost moot, though, since people forgot how to crouch walk to hide themselves, and this game has the best radar ever... well at least as far as Halo is concerned.

thought the radar was a much shorter range (which makes sense since the 'normal' radar is a one of those add-on things). still throws me off a bit. not enough to give myself that radar ability.

wish i were you, i see mad people crouching except on big team.

really enjoying this too. sticky detonator, incineration cannon and the binary rifle are nasty. love them. too much ragnarok right now, but i expect that with the mech and familiarity with the map.

the vision ability is nice, but i feel like getting off of it for the maps i am not keen on sniping on, the red aura/alert it gives off isn't helpful up close and makes it almost worthless. i could see how it could be used to fake people out, but that is too risky a play for me. i think i am gonna start rocking the shield a bit.

LoDownM 11-10-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvarado52 (Post 4027628)
Jesus Fangel really? That's been the case since Halo 2...maybe even the first (didn'toplay multi)

It was in the first.


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