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Bad News Gertner 05-17-2018 10:23 AM

Bret was just "there"

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-17-2018 10:28 AM

Davey Boy Smith vs. Reno Riggins

#1-norm-fan 05-17-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5124249)
I have no clue what you're trying to say here. I mean, I get that you think that Punk was overall better, but I'm saying that I don't think he was. So...okay?

Also, I'm sure the time will come where I will take Reigns over Punk too. I don't really miss Punk at all.

Will you take Reigns over Bret? I was saying your use of "Wembley vs Punk's one buyrate" to determine who was better is flawed.

#1-norm-fan 05-17-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5124290)
Yeah I guess they should have just booked Bulldog versus Berzerker. Would have drawn the same.

It would have drawn way more than Bret vs Berzerker.

LibSuperstar 05-17-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
It would have drawn way more than Bret vs Berzerker.

Doubt that much more. Nobody wants to see Berzerker in a main event.

Destor 05-17-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5124335)
It would have drawn way more than Bret vs Berzerker.

Honestly...fair

Mr. Nerfect 05-17-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5124333)
Will you take Reigns over Bret? I was saying your use of "Wembley vs Punk's one buyrate" to determine who was better is flawed.

Nah, Bret over Reigns. I was just referencing that as one aspect of their game. I think I was severely overrating Punk at the time. I didn't care as much about him as I wanted to even then.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2018 03:25 PM

Fair point about Wembley. Bulldog does not draw against Berserker though lol.

I will say this, Bret did draw the highest two wrestlemania main events from 91-97. and it wasn't Wrestlemania 12. it was 9 and 10. You could argue the Hogan factor for 9. I was actually surprised buy this

430,000 for 9
420,000 for 10

WM 7 did 400
WM 8 did 390

Maybe people really liked Yoko and Bret

Loose Cannon 05-17-2018 03:26 PM

WM 13: 237,000. Last place. poor Taker and Sid :(

LibSuperstar 05-17-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Fair point about Wembley. Bulldog does not draw against Berserker though lol.

I will say this, Bret did draw the highest two wrestlemania main events from 91-97. and it wasn't Wrestlemania 12. it was 9 and 10. You could argue the Hogan factor for 9. I was actually surprised buy this

430,000 for 9
420,000 for 10

WM 7 did 400
WM 8 did 390

Maybe people really liked Yoko and Bret

Gotta look at which match was advertised most.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by M.V.W. (Post 5124462)
Gotta look at which match was advertised most.

That kind of goes back to what i was saying earlier, i really believe if your name wasn't Hogan, Austin and mayyyyybe Rock, you needed other guys/matches/storylines on the card to help you draw.

In my opinion Austin and Hogan could of drawn wrestling a broom stick while the rest of the card was midgets. At least when they were hot. Rock's a maybe.

And this is just WWF. Obviously Flair in NWA would be another.

Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2018 03:51 AM

SummerSlam '94 also did much better than SummerSlam '93. 50,000 buys better. The Taker/Faker bullshit was in the main, but Bret was the WWF Champion going against Owen in the cage.

#1-norm-fan 05-18-2018 09:55 AM

Leslie Goddamn Nielsen was the draw of SummerSlam '94.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-18-2018 09:59 AM

:lol: Fan I think I've grown to love our feud over the merits Bret Hart.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-18-2018 09:59 AM

You fuck.

Loose Cannon 05-18-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5124645)
SummerSlam '94 also did much better than SummerSlam '93. 50,000 buys better. The Taker/Faker bullshit was in the main, but Bret was the WWF Champion going against Owen in the cage.

I guess Vince made the right call in not putting the strap on Luger

#1-norm-fan 05-18-2018 10:39 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/deZaWguLmlaXS/giphy.gif

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-18-2018 10:40 AM

lol the vignettes were obviously amazing cuz of Nielson but dear god the writing was so bad.

#1-norm-fan 05-18-2018 10:47 AM

This is a wrestling website and there's a poster named after Nielsen's character. There's no poster named "Bret Hart". Point Nielsen.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-18-2018 10:50 AM

:rant:

Bad News Gertner 05-18-2018 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5124694)
This is a wrestling website and there's a poster named after Nielsen's character. There's no poster named "Bret Hart". Point Nielsen.

You mean there isn't a poster named whiny bitch?

Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2018 09:53 PM

I think we can all agree that Leslie Nielsen would have been a better World Champion than David Arquette.

Bad News Gertner 05-19-2018 08:24 AM

He would have drawn more money than Bret ever did

SenatorJPO 05-19-2018 12:55 PM

Yes, Bret Hart publicized backstage drama like few wrestlers have done since.

He was a primary motivator behind Barry Blaustein's year-2000 film <i>Beyond the Mat</i>.

In this sense, Bret could be seen as a precursor to <i>Total Bellas</i>, <i>Hogan Knows Best</i>, and other pro-wrestling reality programming.

Outside wrestling, Bret sired Blade, Jade, and Alexandra, so "there's that."

Destor 05-19-2018 04:42 PM

Thats a stretch


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