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Lock Jaw 04-29-2019 12:35 AM
Damn. Just watched.

SPOILER: show
I have a feeling that the mythology will get fleshed out more in these final episodes by Bran. Because now it is essentially a world without "Death", which makes me think that Bran is going to have to make a new Night King, because there must always be a Night King to have balance in the world. Which would explain also why the Children of the Forest made the White Walkers in the first place....

Lock Jaw 04-29-2019 12:36 AM
I really wanted sometime during this episode just a cutaway of Cersei drinking wine in King's Landing.

Fignuts 04-29-2019 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247732)
Damn. Just watched.

SPOILER: show
I have a feeling that the mythology will get fleshed out more in these final episodes by Bran. Because now it is essentially a world without "Death", which makes me think that Bran is going to have to make a new Night King, because there must always be a Night King to have balance in the world. Which would explain also why the Children of the Forest made the White Walkers in the first place....
They didn't make them for some sort of natural balance. They made them because they were at war with mankind.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-29-2019 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247734)
I really wanted sometime during this episode just a cutaway of Cersei drinking wine in King's Landing.
She was in the preview for the next episode could have been sipping on wine. Only watched it once.

XL 04-29-2019 06:48 AM
Everyone: How in Seven Hells are we going to beat The Night King?
Arya: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

Lock Jaw 04-29-2019 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5247768)
They didn't make them for some sort of natural balance. They made them because they were at war with mankind.
Yeah... forgot they revealed why they made them already....

Innovator 04-29-2019 10:06 AM
The book reading subreddit is having a hissy fit today

Gray 04-29-2019 01:39 PM
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The battle seemed so fast paced with whizzing camera shots to even know where the frig you were especially at the beginning. Seemed unncessary especially as it was dark too.

So The Night King goes through all these seasons and not once did he utter a word, not even fuckin abrakadabra to raise the dead. After all that rough and tumble, while I did mark out somewhat about it I felt that it just ended up being so fast paced... I would have thought they would have left some of the battle into episode 4.

Shame we didn't get any Ned Stark cameo, or even Lady Stoneheart if only for a fleeting second. Good to see Tyrion and Sansa though, he was always right for her...

So in the end we will have Jon and Dany as Stark/Targaryan, Arya and Gendry as Stark/Baratheon and maybe Sansa/Tyrion as Lannister/Stark? That is their dynasty sorted right there..

Gray 04-29-2019 01:43 PM
ALSO!!!
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Where is Ghost!!!!! I refuse to believe he perished!!! I seen him run with the dothraki but that was it then!

Rammsteinmad 04-29-2019 02:46 PM
Frantic and exciting episode! My only real complaint was a lot of the "dark" scenes at the beginning. I could barely see anything.

I felt bad for all the Unsullied for covering the retreat. Absolutely insurmountable odds, but they stood their ground. The way the dead were charging in waves was like the zombies in World War Z.

Innovator 04-29-2019 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gray (Post 5247886)
ALSO!!!
SPOILER: show
Where is Ghost!!!!! I refuse to believe he perished!!! I seen him run with the dothraki but that was it then!
He's in the next episode preview

KIRA 04-29-2019 08:34 PM
Wipes out a swath of warriors, Wun Wun(rip bro) and a motherfucking dragon
Gets Shanked by Neds youngest daughter.
Night King indeed.

GD 04-29-2019 08:56 PM
Just watched that big moment in the third episode. Holy shit! Oh my fucking GOD! Wow!

Ruien 04-29-2019 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 5247907)
Frantic and exciting episode! My only real complaint was a lot of the "dark" scenes at the beginning. I could barely see anything.

I felt bad for all the Unsullied for covering the retreat. Absolutely insurmountable odds, but they stood their ground. The way the dead were charging in waves was like the zombies in World War Z.
Hated the dark scenes.

Triple A 04-29-2019 09:23 PM
Wish HBO Go aired in higher quality... Dark scenes with all the massive pixelation looked like shit

GD 04-29-2019 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5248051)
Wish HBO Go aired in higher quality... Dark scenes with all the massive pixelation looked like shit
It was a similar experience on Hulu.

mitchables 04-29-2019 09:57 PM
when the night king walked out of the flames a bunch of people started theorising that he is a targaryen despite that making absolutely zero sense

why do fans have to complicate everything needlessly, clearly he was unburnt because he is a powerful ancient magical being. not everything is something. come on

mitchables 04-29-2019 09:58 PM
also yeah the darkness was pretty terrible. we tried to combat it by varying brightness/contrast/colour warmth settings on our tv but that just made the pixellated blackness even worse

Fignuts 04-29-2019 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchables (Post 5248104)
when the night king walked out of the flames a bunch of people started theorising that he is a targaryen despite that making absolutely zero sense

why do fans have to complicate everything needlessly, clearly he was unburnt because he is a powerful ancient magical being. not everything is something. come on
You can’t blame people for theorizing stuff in a show full of so many plot twists. And I don’t think the Night King being a Targarean is crazy at all. There’s been tons of Targareans throughout Westeros history and we don’t know everything about them.

It’s a lot less crazy than Tyrion being a time traveling Targarean anyway.

Frank Drebin 04-29-2019 10:28 PM
All that foreshadowing for one (albeit sweet af) episode. White Walkers were shown in the first scene of the entire series and now they're done just like that?? Winter was coming....and coming....and coming....aaaand.....it lasted one night. I dunno man....

mitchables 04-29-2019 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fignuts
You can’t blame people for theorizing stuff in a show full of so many plot twists. And I don’t think the Night King being a Targarean is crazy at all. There’s been tons of Targareans throughout Westeros history and we don’t know everything about them.

It’s a lot less crazy than Tyrion being a time traveling Targarean anyway.
except we know the night king was a first man, not a valyrian

i mean, yeah, both of those groups have origins in essos, and i guess it is possible that the man who became the night king was the product of interbreeding between them - hence lacking typical valyrian characteristics, like jon - thus making him half-valyrian/half-targaryen-ancestor or whatever, but... come on

i just feel like, with three episodes to go, it is a hella long bow to draw to start introducing information like that now

i'm not blaming anyone for theorising anything. i just think it is a stupid theory

Frank Drebin 04-29-2019 10:31 PM
Well, they just spent one episode on the White Walkers after all that leading up to it, so I'm sure they've got plenty of time to get to that. Especially with how they seemingly like to rush through things these last couple of seasons.

Fignuts 04-29-2019 10:33 PM
Where do we know that? Are you thinking of The Night’s King from the book? Because him and the Night King aren’t the same thing.

mitchables 04-29-2019 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin
Well, they just spent one episode on the White Walkers after all that leading up to it, so I'm sure they've got plenty of time to get to that. Especially with how they seemingly like to rush through things these last couple of seasons.
honestly i thought it was going to be two episodes of the battle of winterfell, one to deal with cersei, and an epilogue

but i guess it's looking now like it's one at winterfell, two for cersei, and an epilogue?

if they do an epilogue at all. or maybe the split, really, is three at winterfell, three dealing with cersei

i can't imagine they'll arrive at king's landing within the space of the next episode

as you said though, the pacing is all fucked up and it's all DnD bullshit anyway so who knows

mitchables 04-29-2019 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5248146)
Where do we know that? Are you thinking of The Night’s King from the book? Because him and the Night King aren’t the same thing.
i am well aware of the distinction between the night king and the night's king

we know that because, in the show, the children of the forest captured a human to create the night king in an attempt to combat the first men encroaching on their environment, and the only humans in westeros at that point were... the first men

Fignuts 04-29-2019 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5248139)
All that foreshadowing for one (albeit sweet af) episode. White Walkers were shown in the first scene of the entire series and now they're done just like that?? Winter was coming....and coming....and coming....aaaand.....it lasted one night. I dunno man....
A part of me feels this way, but it’s overshadowed by the fact that this was literally the most epic episode in the series to date.

Fignuts 04-29-2019 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchables (Post 5248150)
i am well aware of the distinction between the night king and the night's king

we know that because, in the show, the children of the forest captured a human to create the night king in an attempt to combat the first men encroaching on their environment, and the only humans in westeros at that point were... the first men
Ah, ok

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-29-2019 10:38 PM
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It doesn't make sense that WunWun wouldn't have been burned or decapitated after the battle of the bastards.


SlickyTrickyDamon 04-29-2019 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gray (Post 5247885)
SPOILER: show
The battle seemed so fast paced with whizzing camera shots to even know where the frig you were especially at the beginning. Seemed unncessary especially as it was dark too.

So The Night King goes through all these seasons and not once did he utter a word, not even fuckin abrakadabra to raise the dead. After all that rough and tumble, while I did mark out somewhat about it I felt that it just ended up being so fast paced... I would have thought they would have left some of the battle into episode 4.

Shame we didn't get any Ned Stark cameo, or even Lady Stoneheart if only for a fleeting second. Good to see Tyrion and Sansa though, he was always right for her...

So in the end we will have Jon and Dany as Stark/Targaryan, Arya and Gendry as Stark/Baratheon and maybe Sansa/Tyrion as Lannister/Stark? That is their dynasty sorted right there..
You don't come back from a beheading.

Frank Drebin 04-29-2019 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5248151)
A part of me feels this way, but it’s overshadowed by the fact that this was literally the most epic episode in the series to date.
Adrenaline rush of the episode will wear off soon enough.

Frank Drebin 04-29-2019 10:43 PM
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Why does Melisandre just die? Did she freeze? Why did she do that??

mitchables 04-29-2019 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5248153)
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It doesn't make sense that WunWun wouldn't have been burned or decapitated after the battle of the bastards.

SPOILER: show
do we know for a fact the wight giant was wun wun? i don't think that's necessarily been confirmed anywhere. people have speculated, but it could also have been literally any other giant. mag the mighty even?

mitchables 04-29-2019 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5248158)
SPOILER: show
Why does Melisandre just die? Did she freeze? Why did she do that??
SPOILER: show
she was being kept alive by the lord of light's magic. she was actually like 400 years old, and used magic to appear young. we'd previously seen her in her 'actual' form when she didn't have the necklace on a few seasons back; when she took her necklace off after winterfell, the light went out from the stone in the centre, signifying she was no longer under the lord of light's protection. kinda like beric; she was being kept alive to serve a purpose, and when that purpose was served, she was allowed to die

Frank Drebin 04-29-2019 10:54 PM
That makes sense save for that she took the necklace off before. Therefore, she should have died then if that was what was keeping her alive, yes?

Triple A 04-29-2019 10:58 PM
Seems pointless to use the spoiler tags in this thread! Why would people click this thread if they haven't seen the episode yet...

mitchables 04-29-2019 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5248165)
That makes sense save for that she took the necklace off before. Therefore, she should have died then if that was what was keeping her alive, yes?
eh, let's call it the effects of residual magic. she died within like 30-60 seconds of removing the necklace. that's still reasonable

or maybe the necklace was what was keeping her looking young, and it was the lord of light who was actually keeping her alive. either way, you get what i'm saying

i mean, when the night king died, all the wights didn't instantly drop dead. it emanated out like a wave. there were still wights moving after he'd shattered. so magic clearly doesn't fade instantaneously.

mitchables 04-29-2019 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5248169)
Seems pointless to use the spoiler tags in this thread! Why would people click this thread if they haven't seen the episode yet...
i was doing it out of respect for people who had started their posts with spoiler tags but honestly i am with you here

Tom Guycott 04-30-2019 01:27 AM
I just now had an opportunity to actually see the episode.

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247734)
I really wanted sometime during this episode just a cutaway of Cersei drinking wine in King's Landing.
I actually thought this was coming when Bran said "Gotta go now." and we had the bird transition. Thought they were headed there.

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5247788)
Everyone: How in Seven Hells are we going to beat The Night King?
Arya: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5247987)
Wipes out a swath of warriors, Wun Wun(rip bro) and a motherfucking dragon
Gets Shanked by Neds youngest daughter.
Night King indeed.
When you program an OP bullet sponge boss battle for your game, but the community finds an exploit.

Speaking of game analogies, Lyanna>Emille

Tom Guycott 04-30-2019 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5248169)
Seems pointless to use the spoiler tags in this thread! Why would people click this thread if they haven't seen the episode yet...
I get your point, but I'm of the mindset of better safe than sorry. I've accidentally opened threads I didn't intend to.

On that note, you know how difficult it has been to not see anything spoiler-y in the last 24 hours? At least the thread has a general title and not some BS summarized tangent about a major plot point. Those are the worst.

XL 04-30-2019 01:48 AM
That giant wasn’t Wun Wun. They burned his body.


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