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IC Champion 01-15-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5415256)
Considering AEW splits ad revenue with TNT, provided both shows had an equal rate (NXT’s is probably higher at base, but ignoring that), AEW would need to do twice as well as NXT to end up as profitable for TNT is as NXT. That’s also assuming that NXT charges $45 million for rights. If it’s cheaper, then that’s even more money saved by USA. Yeah, that’s the show that’s gonna move.

It’s almost as if one company is on a “prove-it” deal, while the other has been an established television entity for decades, with far more leverage in turn.

IC Champion 01-15-2021 09:48 AM

AEW has the key demos Vince dreams of, but can’t get because he’s terrible at producing anything close to resembling an entertaining product. RAW and Smackdown are barely watchable, and have been for 4 years at least. I think I’m even being generous saying “barely”. I don’t think I’ll watch WWE product again until Vince dies. I just can’t do it to myself, nor should any of you.

screech 01-15-2021 10:19 AM

Smackdown has been much better than RAW in the last ~6 months to me, at least.

xrodmuc316 01-15-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IC Champion (Post 5415313)
AEW has the key demos Vince dreams of, but can’t get because he’s terrible at producing anything close to resembling an entertaining product. RAW and Smackdown are barely watchable, and have been for 4 years at least. I think I’m even being generous saying “barely”. I don’t think I’ll watch WWE product again until Vince dies. I just can’t do it to myself, nor should any of you.

Except on Monday and Friday, when Vince gets higher "key demo" ratings than AEW does on Wednesday. But of course, Wednesday is the only day demos matter right?

drave 01-15-2021 11:48 AM

Right!


Thanks for coming to the TED talk.

IC Champion 01-15-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5415355)
Except on Monday and Friday, when Vince gets higher "key demo" ratings than AEW does on Wednesday. But of course, Wednesday is the only day demos matter right?

What, they 40+ crowd?

xrodmuc316 01-15-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IC Champion (Post 5415370)
What, they 40+ crowd?

RAW 18-34 =.35
AEW 18-34 =.15

Try again.

Nark Order 01-15-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5414274)
Fucking narc

What in the hell did I do?

drave 01-15-2021 01:32 PM

you enjoyed something, maybe

IC Champion 01-15-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5415376)
RAW 18-34 =.35
AEW 18-34 =.15

Try again.

Now do NXT.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-15-2021 01:44 PM

I'm curious what Raw would do against AEW and if the audience would be as split as it is against NXT. I'd goes Raw would win but I'm curious to see how many viewers they'd lose if AEW did do a Monday night show.

xrodmuc316 01-15-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IC Champion (Post 5415425)
Now do NXT.

Did I say NXT in my original reply to your dumb take about demos, that you oh so cleverly responded to about 40+ year olds??

Pretty sure I said Monday and Friday demos, and how your attempted argument is that demos only matter on Wednesdays.

You just reaffirmed that your argument is a .15 on Wednesday is awesome and makes Vince McMahon jealous, but the .35 he just got on Monday doesn't matter. Even though it was more than double, Dynamite, it wasn't on Wednesday, so "ohhhh AEW!!!".

Every week people pretend AEW is killing it, but a .15 in 18-34 only looks good when compared to NXT. Acting like ratings are the most important thing to prove AEW is great while ignoring much higher Raw ratings and Smackdown ratings because it buries your narrative is bullshit and I'll call it out EVERY time.

Why the need to pretend Wednesday is the only day ratings matter?

Answer, because your geeking out makes no sense otherwise.

IC Champion 01-15-2021 04:33 PM

But you’re being disingenuous, you’re comparing apples to pomegranates. RAW has zero competition.

xrodmuc316 01-15-2021 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IC Champion (Post 5415497)
But you’re being disingenuous, you’re comparing apples to pomegranates. RAW has zero competition.

Yeah, there is never Monday Night Football or anything.

This past Raw didn't air against the NCAA Football Championship, poor Dynamite has all the real competition! :roll:

SO ELITE!!!!!!

IC Champion 01-15-2021 05:41 PM

If Vince was a real man he’d move Raw to Wednesday’s.

xrodmuc316 01-15-2021 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IC Champion (Post 5415518)
If Vince was a real man he’d move Raw to Wednesday’s.

Could you imagine how much crying their would be if Vince actually moved a show to air against Dynamite??

Shit look how much of a fit they still have about NXT airing Wednesdays, you know NXT, the show that has been airing at 8pm since 2014. You listen to AEW, and you would think NXT stole AEW's timeslot.

Nevermind that NXT got picked up by USA to replace Smackdown before Dynamite even debuted. Also nevermind that the original trademark was for Thursday Night Dynamite.

None of those true facts fit the story of "the Big Bad WWE trying to hurt poor old AEW", so let's ignore all that, and then act like Vince McMahon is scarred of the underdog bitches that can't draw 1 million viewers no matter how many former WWE guys they sign.

screech 01-15-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IC Champion (Post 5415518)
If Vince was a real man he’d move Raw to Wednesday’s.

That's just the kick in the ass RAW needs!

IC Champion 01-15-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5415557)
Could you imagine how much crying their would be if Vince actually moved a show to air against Dynamite??

Shit look how much of a fit they still have about NXT airing Wednesdays, you know NXT, the show that has been airing at 8pm since 2014. You listen to AEW, and you would think NXT stole AEW's timeslot.

Nevermind that NXT got picked up by USA to replace Smackdown before Dynamite even debuted. Also nevermind that the original trademark was for Thursday Night Dynamite.

None of those true facts fit the story of "the Big Bad WWE trying to hurt poor old AEW", so let's ignore all that, and then act like Vince McMahon is scarred of the underdog bitches that can't draw 1 million viewers no matter how many former WWE guys they sign.

So you’re agreeing Vince is a scaredy-cat, and wouldn’t do it?

slik 01-15-2021 08:57 PM

I wonder if this is Hasney's most successful thread

IC Champion 01-15-2021 09:41 PM

Who?

road doggy dogg 01-15-2021 11:43 PM

Saw Hasney started playing "Wrestling Empire" on Switch, along with Mike the Metal Ed and... one of my other friends from TPWW but drawing a blank right now. Didn't even know there was a damn rasslin' game on Nintendo Switch !!!

xrodmuc316 01-16-2021 06:33 PM

Where's the new "Smackdown Murders AEW in the ratings worse than Chris Benoit did his Family" thread title?

slik 01-16-2021 10:10 PM

For those curious, 2.15 million for SD this week

Damian Rey 2.0 01-16-2021 10:20 PM

I saw that Roman Reigns mini promo from their Mania announcement. Where the fuck has that guy been the last 6 years. Also loved that Heyman seems like he's afraid of him.

Bad News Gertner 01-18-2021 09:44 AM

He's so fucking great. Might be the best thing in wrestling.

Big Vic 01-18-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5415088)
So which celebrity or has been wrestler are they going to bring in next to draw the same 750,000 viewers

Trump?

fundiddle 01-18-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 5415596)
Saw Hasney started playing "Wrestling Empire" on Switch, along with Mike the Metal Ed and... one of my other friends from TPWW but drawing a blank right now. Didn't even know there was a damn rasslin' game on Nintendo Switch !!!

i remember playing a previous iteration of this on a tablet or something years ago, used to be "Wrestling Revolution" i think. anyway, empire looks like it would be an absolute blast to play online multiplayer, and kinda makes me want to get a switch, but i won't because i hate fun

road doggy dogg 01-19-2021 12:04 PM

Supposedly made by the same guy, yeah. It I guess kind of captures the spirit of the old Acclaim N64 games, jankiness and all. Kind of tempted to try it... I think there's a demo

Evil Vito 01-19-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 5415596)
Saw Hasney started playing "Wrestling Empire" on Switch, along with Mike the Metal Ed and... one of my other friends from TPWW but drawing a blank right now. Didn't even know there was a damn rasslin' game on Nintendo Switch !!!

I miss Hasney :(

Evil Vito 01-19-2021 12:35 PM

And yeah that game was a blast on PC. You can do the most ridiculous shit in it.

I remember a newLegacy stream where they finished a match only to be greeted with a newspaper headline telling them that their character fucking died in the middle of career mode after suffering extreme damage and blood loss in a match. And then immediately after that, another newspaper headline that the guy who killed them in the match turned face.

road doggy dogg 01-19-2021 12:41 PM

LOL

slik 01-20-2021 07:51 PM

1.85 for RAW this week

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xrodmuc316 01-20-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5416992)

Look at those demos! I thought you all said WWE's audience was all boomers???

weather vane 01-21-2021 06:29 PM

AEW just keeps pounding away. Add it to the pile. WWE drowning.

slik 01-21-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5417001)
Look at those demos! I thought you all said WWE's audience was all boomers???

Actually what people say is that WWE's largest viewing demo is 50+...which it is, there's literally a chart you are quoting...

xrodmuc316 01-21-2021 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5417417)
Actually what people say is that WWE's largest viewing demo is 50+...which it is, there's literally a chart you are quoting...

Yeah, and like I already said, you yourself make that claim based on the chart, but completely ignore Raw killing Dynamite in the 18-34 demo.

So even if the biggest segment is 50 plus, so what? It doesn't change the fact that they more than double Dynamite in the young people demo, does it?

So why are you so biased every week posting those rating charts, when they disprove your bias?

I said it last week, 18-34 demo
Raw - .35
AEW - .15

So even if every WWE fan over 50 dies tomorrow, guess what, Raw would still beat Dynamite, so fuck your rating chart.

slik 01-21-2021 09:06 PM

I posted ratings before AEW existed...I've always posted ratings...

It's not my fault AEW is a better product to watch nor is it my fault AEW continues to be the preferred show for many younger viewers.

xrodmuc316 01-21-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5417427)
AEW continues to be the preferred show for many younger viewers.

RAW 18-34 =.35
AEW 18-34 =.15

Try again.

Mr. Nerfect 01-22-2021 02:37 AM

Don’t try and reason with them, xrod. They actually believe that AEW is cool with the young folks while WWE is not.

slik 01-22-2021 10:35 AM

CNN with massive live tv ratings for the Inauguration. Both AEW and NXT did better for the night than I expected them to.


AEW - 854k
NXT - 659k


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